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Message  Sasaye Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 2:56


Brazil plans to start withdrawing troops from the UN peacekeeping mission it leads in Haiti, Defence Minister Celso Amorim has said.

The gradual reduction would be co-ordinated with the UN and other South American nations with troops in Haiti.

"We can't have a disorganised exit that creates a situation of chaos," Mr Amorim told the BBC.

Mr Amorim said the security situation in Haiti had substantially improved since the mission began in 2004.

He noted that there had been two democratic elections since the force was deployed.

"Political science manuals teach that the second election shows that democracy has been established," Mr Amorim said.

"In the medium and long term, it is not good for Haiti and it is not good for those who are there that the mission be perpetuated," he added.

But Mr Amorim said no timetable had been drawn up for the reduction and eventual withdrawal of peacekeeping troops.

And he said the Brazilian draw-down would initially be limited, as Brazilian troops had responsibility for the capital, Port-au-Prince.

Mr Amorim says there will be no rush to exit Haiti
Controversy

There are more than 2,000 Brazilian troops in Haiti, out of a total UN force of around 12,000.

Brazil's leadership of the UN force has been seen as a test of its ambition to play a greater role in regional security as it seeks a permanent seat on the UN Security Council.

The peacekeepers were brought in to Haiti to restore order following the overthrow of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004.

The force was expanded after the devastating earthquake in January 2010, which killed more than 200,000 people and left the capital, Port-au-Prince in ruins.

But the UN mission has been dogged by controversy.

Last year there were widespread protests after Nepalese peacekeepers were accused of being the source of a cholera outbreak that killed more than 6,000 Haitians.

Just last week, Uruguayan peacekeepers were accused of raping an 18-year-old Haitian man after a video of the alleged incident circulated on the internet.

Five Uruguayan marines are to face trial for the alleged assault, and the Uruguayan government has promised "maximum penalties" if they are found guilty.

Mr Amorim said Brazil's desire to begin withdrawing troops was not related to the allegations against the Uruguayans, which have provoked outrage in Haiti.

Haitian President Michel Martelly said the incident had "revolted the conscience of the nation".

President Martelly has acknowledged that Haiti still needs the UN peacekeepers, but wants their security role reduced and eventually replaced by a Haitian force.

He is still struggling to form a government, five months after winning power in a UN-backed election.

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Message  Sasaye Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 3:05


Yo mèt di sayo vle, men pwotestasyon yo bay rezilta.
Sa montre ke yon nèg dwe di dyab la lanmèd.

Pandan mouvman saa komanse, se pou ayisyen kanpe lan lari pou mande pou lôt kontenjan Minista yo ale tou.

Dayè si brezil ki chef misyon an oblije bat bounda l, se pou yo tout ale.

Sa yo di yo fè an pa vle di anyen.

Si dezyèm eleksyon apre okipasyon an pwouve ke demokrasi tabli ann Ayiti, yo fout manti, paske se pa vôt demokratik ki mete Mateli, se presyon enterè entènasyonal.



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Message  Invité Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 6:19

Mwen dil anko se pavitikman ke nap genyen yo. Si yo tire kartouch menm yo BANAN Pwisk la toutt moun ap we kiyes ki dyab la.

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Message  Nickie Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 7:32

Sé pou yo fout raché manyôk yo, bay tè ki pa pou yo a. Moun sa yo sé lanbi boukannen ak dlo kokoyé yap manjé nan plaj, manjé kabrit péyizan yo, vyolé jenn fi ak jenn gason, lagé koléra nan wèl nou. Nou frenk bouké, sé pou yo alé
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Message  Le gros roseau Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 16:27

The sooner the better ;I think the brazilian soldiers are more needed in Brazil than in haiti.Go home ;we don't need you ;we never did.You are not doing anything to alleviate the sufferings of the people.Don't be the prison guards for the imperialists.Brazilians should be ashamed of what the foreign soldiers are doing in haiti.Lula should have done that before leaving the Presidency.

If we need foreign help after you withdraw your troops from our country we will ask the venezuelans ,the bolivians, the equatorians , the cubans to help us. we dont' need brazilian , uruguayan mercenaries ,delinquants in our country.

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Message  revelation Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 17:55

Go home ;we don't need you ;we never did.
A la TiNeg engra papa!! Al reli post w yo Roseau ppou we jan w tap venere Lula ak soldat Brezilyen.
W ap plenyen pou jambe la rivye, w san le tombe nan lan mer. Pa kite emosyon nou fe nou di betiz san reflechi konsekans aksyon nou pi devan.


If we need foreign help after you withdraw your troops from our country we will ask the venezuelans ,the bolivians, the equatorians , the cubans to help us.
Sispand mache mande la charite pou sekirite nan fo men zanmi ki fatigue ak nou.
Pa pito nou ranmase karakte nou e fome prop lamee nou sou yon bon baz byen solid ki diferan de lamee kwaze zo a.... paske si se pa sa Dominiken yo san le anvahi nou.
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Message  Le gros roseau Mer 7 Sep 2011 - 21:15

Mwen ka te aplodi Lula pou sa li te fè o bresil men ou pa fouti site kote mwen tap voye flè pou solda bresilyen yo.Si o debi mwen te wè enpotans MINUSTAH apre kou deta pou te enpeche yon gè sivil an ayiti ou pa fouti di depi jandam sa yo te kontinye fè move zak sou pep la mwen pat mande pou retire yo nan peyi ya.

ou toujou ap pale de lame san ke w pa janm ka dim poukisa nan peyi ki genyen lame yo genyen krim konsa. fok w esplikem yon peyi ki ap mande charite pou l boukle bidjè l kote li pral jwen lajan poul genyen yon lame ki vo non saa?Siw vle rele 4000 jandam ak ti fisi yon lame se dwa w men ou pa ka twonpe moun ki konn sa yon lame ye ki lojistik li beswen e ki zam li beswen.

si enperyalist yo pat destabilize peyi ya an peyan mersenè pou rantre fè dezod nan peyi ya pep ayisyen pat beswen solda etranje lakay li.se sak fè mwen di we didn't need them.e se pa mwen ki di sa se General Meyers menm ki di sa :Haiti doesn't have a military problem ;haiti has economic and political problems.se pa jandam etranje nou te beswen.yo voye jandam etranje an ayiti pou kenbe ayisyen nan prison pou perpetye esklavaj modern lan.se pousa se pep la ke yo touye.Si wou ou te beswen jandam sa yo pou konsilide pouvwa oligarchi Gnbist la mwen pat beswen yo an ayiti e mwen pa janm kwè ke yo ka regle anyen an ayiti .e tranbleman de tè ya pwouve ke se yon kob yap peye moun sa yo pou yo fè touris e abise ti moun an ayiti .Si sa pa indiye w ou pa ka vle tout moun panse menm jan a k w.Epi zafè ti neg engra itilise mo konsa pou moun ki konn mande w favè.

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