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Apa nou bliye 18 mai !!!!!!!

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Message  Sasaye Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 1:32

Mesyedam,

Mwen pat la tout la jounen.
Mwen te an vwayaj e mwen pat gen aksè ak yon odinatè.

Men lè m rive tale a, mwen ouvè fowom nan pou wè sakap pase.

Mwen pa wè pèsonn sonje se fèt drapo nou an.


Drapo saa ki youn lan pi gwo senbol libète
pou tout ayisyen,
pou tout nèg nwa,
pou tout nèg blan,
pou tout moun
ki vle ke yo respekte dwa yo

Drapo saa ki premye souflèt lan figi
esklavaj,
kolonizasyon.
Ki fè franse fremi
anba kout zam
Desalin
Kapwalamo

Drapo saa ki te mare lan tèt Marijan
ke ayisyen ki rete vayan ap montre
ke yo renmen peyi yo toujou.

Drapo saa ke Wyclef
montre tout moun avèk fyète.

Mezanmi, sa n ap fè konsa?
Nou tèlman gen pwoblèm
nou bliye bikolo a.

E poutan si nou pa rantre anba l
nou tout ap deperi.


Mèsi Lanssslo pou rapèl la.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 7:38

Mon chè mwen te vle di 2 mo sou drapo a wi men yè mwen tap li istwa drapo ayisyen ke mwen pat janm konnen ki te chanje anpil fwa konsa mwen vinn dekouraje.Mwen dekouraje pase lè map li konbyen fwa ayisyen chanje drapo mwen di men si menm pou youn senbol enpotan konsa ayisyen pa ka antann yo ki jan nap fè antann nou pou nou fè ti bout tè saa tounnen youn fyerte pou nou tout.

drapo ayisyen tounen youn la mayot tanto li se 2 bann vertikal ,tanto li se 2 bann orizontal, tanto li rouj e ble tanto li se nwa e rouj.Lè Christophe deklare royom li nan Nò li chanje efiji ki nan mitan drapo.Duvalier monte li chanje koulè drapo.apre li sak vinn apre yo chanje l ankò se komsi drapo se youn mirwa enstabilite peyi ya.Jou youn duvalyerist pran pouvwa ou genyen pou wè yo chanjel ankò.ki fè eske youn moun pa dwe mande eske ayisyen genyen drapo vre?Se pousa ki fè mwen pat genyen oken disposityon pou m te ekri sou drapo sa ki te dwe youn fyerte pou tout ayisyen konsekan.se youn senbol ki pou pat dwe janm chanje.
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Message  Invité Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 9:17

Je suis étonné d'apprendre que plus d'uns ont oublié de célébrer notre fete du bicolore. Au Sud-Ouest de la Floride, nous l'avons célébré fièrement.

Il était émouvant de voir des jeunes, nés aux Etats-Unis et n'ayant pas encore la chance de se rendre en Haiti en train de crier, danser, pleurer afin de vénérer notre drapeau.


Que des apatrides comme Youri Latortue ou autres corrompus de la chambre viennent me dire que ces enfants ne sont pas des haitiens!
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Little separates the word “independence” in the English and Haitian Creole languages.

Besides a few replaced letters and a tweaked pronunciation, one of the concepts held dearest to people of both U.S. and Haitian origins is expressed in virtually the same way.

And while the Republic of Haiti and the United States may be worlds apart, Haitian immigrants and their descendents use the day marking Haitian independence to firmly plant one foot in each world, simultaneously celebrating their heritage while practicing appreciation for the lives they have built in the United States.


“My dad was here first and he brought us over to the country of opportunity,” said Ynozair Georges. “Because of this country and the opportunity we have here, I was able to go graduate from high school with a high GPA and go to college.”

Georges, 24, is one of eight siblings who left Haiti for the United States six years ago. He said the opportunities for him here are more accessible than they would have been in Haiti.

Georges, who is studying accounting at Florida Gulf Coast University, attended the Haitian Flag Day celebration at Golden Gate Community Center on Sunday afternoon to give a nod to both his country of birth and the country he said has helped his family attain a better life.

“It’s part of representing where we’re originally from,” said Nene Andre, whose family emigrated from Haiti before she was born.

She said the celebration is about pride in heritage — as both Haitians and Americans.

“It’s all the same, because we’re all reuniting as a family,” Andre said, looking around at the throngs of people decked out in blue and red, the colors adorning the Haitian flag.

Haitian music, driven by an irresistible, soul-vibrating beat, emerged from loudspeakers at the pavilion on the backside of the community center. Community members mingled, danced, laughed and ate together as a slight breeze cut through the afternoon humidity.

May 18 marks the creation of the Haitian flag in 1903, during the slave rebellion that lasted more than two decades. At the end of Haiti’s revolution, the only successful slave rebellion in modern recorded history, the Republic of Haiti declared its independence and emancipation from slavery, starting January 1, 1904.

Since then, Haiti has endured almost constant political upheaval.

“Everybody came (to America) for different reasons,” Bennld Fremononze said. “Most important, it’s a political problem in Haiti. There’s more security here.”

While the revelry of the day wrapped itself around the hundreds of people buzzing through the park, many people cast their thoughts back to Haiti, where only a small fraction of children can afford to go to school.

“Many kids have no place to sleep, no place to live,” said Eric Guerrier. “We help those kids find a place to live.”

Guerrier is president of Sunshine State Foundation, a nonprofit that funnels money and assistance back to impoverished children in Haiti. His group set up a table at the event with photos of the children sponsored by the foundation, as well as jars collecting donations.

It was a simple statement, but one that brought many revelers back down to earth. Freedom, they know, is relative, and a whole new generation of children await the opportunities found by thousands of other Haitians, both inside the borders of Haiti and outside.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2008/may/18/local-haitians-remember-homeland-flag-day/

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Message  piporiko Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 10:29

LE PRESIDENT PREVAL A DEBLOQUE LA SOMME DE 200 MILLE DOLLARS AMARICAINS POUR LA CELE BRATION DE LA FETE DU DRAPEAU DANS LE SUD DE LA FLORIDE.PADANS TAN,NAN PEYIA FET LA PAGEN OKEN EKLA E SE SOU FATRA LI FETE.DAYE PREZIDAN PREVAL KONNEN BYEN JAN'L MAL MENNEN PEYI A ,LI PA MENM AL AKAYE.....ZO ZANSET NOU YO AP SOUKE NAN TONM YO..

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Message  Invité Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 11:27

piporiko a écrit:LE PRESIDENT PREVAL A DEBLOQUE LA SOMME DE 200 MILLE DOLLARS AMARICAINS POUR LA CELE BRATION DE LA FETE DU DRAPEAU DANS LE SUD DE LA FLORIDE.PADANS TAN,NAN PEYIA FET LA PAGEN OKEN EKLA E SE SOU FATRA LI FETE.DAYE PREZIDAN PREVAL KONNEN BYEN JAN'L MAL MENNEN PEYI A ,LI PA MENM AL AKAYE.....ZO ZANSET NOU YO AP SOUKE NAN TONM YO..

C'est ce genre de meli-melo qu'il faut éviter.

La fete du drapeau est l'une de nos plus grandes fetes nationales et nous l'avons célébré fièrement dans la diaspora. Quant à la corruption, il faut poursuivre Préval sans affecter la portée des fetes nationales ou diminuer la valeur de nos héros.

GNB a fait ce meme meli-melo et nous a ravi de la célébration du bicentenaire de notre indépendance.

Nous devrons détacher les valeurs du pays des emprises de la politique et de la corruption.

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Message  Sasaye Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 14:32

Conga drums drive compas beat at Miami Haitian music festival
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MIAMI — Thousands of fans of Haitian compas music, the up-tempo music driven by conga drums that has served as a link between scattered Haitian communities worldwide, will converge on Miami Saturday for the 10th Haitian Compas Festival.

"Compas is like hip-hop for Americans. It's like salsa for Cubans, like merengue for Dominicans. It's our national music," says Harrys Latortue, who plays compas during his daily "BJ Live" radio program in Miami.

The festival's lineup includes the Miami-born Magnum Band that's been playing since 1976, and popular newcomers Djakout Mizik, who performed with Haitian hip-hop star Wyclef Jean on MTV's New Year's Eve special.

Festival organizers expect 30,000 people on Saturday in Miami's Bicentennial Park. Many of the headliners are also performing at smaller clubs on Sunday and Monday.

Compas often blends a number of musical genres and is sung in a mix of Haitian Creole, French and English.

The festival is always scheduled around Haitian Flag Day, May 18.
"We definitely use it as an occasion to celebrate Haitian pride, for all those people who can't get to Haiti for Flag Day," said Evrose Philias-Noel, the festival's administrator.
As compas, first born in Haiti in the 1950s, is increasingly produced by Haitian artists living outside the Caribbean, the music has been influenced by pop music.

"We upgraded. Especially because we live here, we hear the American music," says Gazman Couleur, the Haiti-born lead singer of the Miami-based group Nu-Look, who are performing at the festival. "But we still keep the traditional compas. The conga has a role to play. That never changes, even though we add the R&B, the disco, the hip-hop."

Festival organizers will be collecting canned goods to send to Haiti, where skyrocketing food prices prompted violent riots last month that left five people dead.

The food drive is in step with compas song lyrics that are often politically charged, exploring family dramas and the suffering of Haiti's poor, fans say.

"It's beautiful music, and it gets better when you listen to what they say," said Joanne Borgella, a Haitian-American model and recent "American Idol" contestant who will be attending the festival.

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Message  Sasaye Lun 19 Mai 2008 - 14:40

Haitian Flag Day
by Jacob François / May 18th, 2008

In 1803, our ancestors declared Haiti free and independent; they adopted the flag of freedom-blue and red with the inscription: In Union is strength! For the heroes of the war of the Haitian independence, “In Union lays our Strength,” reflected the unification of blacks and mulattos against the slave owners as a strategic tool in order to obtain our freedom and independence.

These valiant black slaves, although tired from the painful yoke of slavery, quickly understood that if “Divide and Conquer” succeeded so well for the slave owners, it became imperative for the revolted slaves to unite, blacks and mulattos, poor and rich in order to win the battle for independence. “Union is Strength” enabled them to win the fight against slavery — as Haiti became the first black independent republic in the world.

Tribute to Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who after two hundred years of independence, no one has been able to match his vision of cohesion for the daughters and sons of Haiti, irrespective of their social status or clan. He envisioned a Haiti fair for all. After two hundred years of structural ills, we have no choice but to educate our people to the concept of the Haitian nation, citizenship and patriotism.

The Dessalinienne — written by the famous Justin Lhérisson — contains exactly the words we needed to trigger national awareness that is necessary for a better Haiti. One which respects the right of its people, a strong and fair justice system, and an economy linked to the needs of the poor for inclusion, ensuring their economic security for a Haiti free, happy, and prosperous in the 21st century, capable of sprinting feverishly towards a modern economy capable of taking care of its citizens.

For the country and for our fathers, train our sons, train our daughters. Free, strong and prosperous, we are our brothers’ and sisters’ keeper. Train our sons, train our daughters for the country and for our father’s legacy. Train, train, train our sons, for the country and for our fathers legacy.

Being Haitian, free Negroes on Haitian soil are sacred rights bequeathed to us by our parents. Under no circumstances should we put these privileges to compromise, because our ancestor’s souls will revolt in their graves.

Helping Haitians find and understand the country’s history and its legacy are key issues for the renewal of the Haitian nation. Very often, the intelligentsia believe that to be a patriot or a nationalist coincide with the notion of hatred for other people in order to promote your own ideals, however, the notion that we’re promoting today on May 18, 2008 has nothing to do with this definition of patriotism or nationalism.

The concept for us is to put the interest of our country Haiti above personal interests in order to achieve a Haiti as it was meant to be based on its history. Our ancestors did not have so many opportunities that are offered to us today in the era of globalization, our responsibility is to advocate and promote our ideals in order to enhance the understanding and shed light on our struggle. Having for a compass-freedom and human rights as sacred instruments for the renewal of the country and our environment.

At the dawn of the celebration of the Centennial of our independence, a mental giant like Lhérisson was able to highlight our duty as citizens in the national anthem for us to analyze or think about our duty towards our motherland. But our disbelief and lack of vision we have stopped us from having a common vision for our people, which resulted in a U.S. invasion. That is the result of our lack of vision and cohesiveness: the return of France on the Haitian political scene by demanding and collecting a ransom from Haiti for over a hundred years, the American occupation, the occupation of the United Nations and its members from the third world that we had helped gain their own independence. The Préval government has the responsibility to declare its national plan for regaining our sovereignty specifying the date of departure for Minustha from our territory.

Haitian Priorities Project calls upon all Haitians and the French government, to think about the possibility for France to prove that it is really an ally for its former colony, which despite its setbacks and calamities, still remains an example of bravery and endurance.

The annual budget of Haiti stood at 77.6 billion gourdes/38.56gdes, or about $2,012,448,133.00. If we capitalize the amount of the ransom of independence that France forced the Haitian government to pay, we end up with a sum of $21,685,136,000.00 capitalized for fiscal year end 2003. If you take this value divided by the current annual budget of Haiti ($21,685,136,000.00 / $2,012,448,133.00), we get a value equal to the total financing of the program of René Préval’s government for a period of 11 years.

The most important step that France could make would be to demonstrate its humanitarianism and its respect for human rights and settle the debt that France owed to Haiti, accepted by former President Jacques Chirac and the French parliament. While celebrating the creation of the Haitian flag, it would be a great gesture on the part of the French Government to repay all of this unjustified ransom collected by the French Government, which would allow the Haitian government to equip the country with the infrastructure needed, in addition, this will allow the Haitian government from reaching out to the rest of the world in order to complete its annual budget for at least a period of 11 years. This would certainly bring economic stability in the country; a prerequisite condition for revitalizing the economy and sustainable development for the reconstruction of the Haitian society.

On this day while we celebrate the creation of the Haitian flag, let us unite friends of Haiti, let’s re-light the torch of bravery which motivated the warriors for the independence of Haiti and give value to their slogan “Union is Strength”

Haitian Priorities Project calls upon all Haitians and friends of Haiti to unite in order to demand from France the handing over of the ransom of independence extorted from Haiti. More than ever, we need the support of 8.5 million Haitians to demonstrate to France and the world that we are united in a single voice fighting for Restitution of over 23 billion dollars and the time has come for France to return to Haiti this ransom collected unfairly.

Jacob François founded Project 2000 International, a non-profit organization that provides assistance to Haitian children. Read other articles by Jacob, or visit Jacob's website.

This article was posted on Sunday, May 18th, 2008 at 5:00 am and is filed under Caribbean, Colonialism, Culture, France, Haiti, Imperialism. Send to a friend.
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