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"Banm yon sigarèt"
Port-au-Prince.-Le dossier du salaire minimum appelé Loi Benoit, semble être dans l’impasse. Le président de la république semble être pris entre deux feux. Des industriels tirent la sonnette d’alarme sur l’application de cette loi. Selon le président de l’Association des Industries d’Haïti, Georges Sassine, une augmentation de 70 à 200 gourdes anéantira les objectifs du gouvernement qui ambitionne de créer des milliers d’emplois dans le secteur textile, en exploitant la loi Hope 2. D’un autre côté, pour de nombreux parlementaires favorables à cette loi, le compte à rebours a commencé. Les 8 jours accordés au président de la République pour signer, arrivent bientôt à expiration. "Le dossier est clos", a longtemps martelé le député Stevenson Benoît, indiquant que les industriels avaient suffisamment de temps pour faire valoir les arguments évoqués aujourd’hui.
Pour de nombreux analystes économiques, cette loi sur le salaire minimum aurait du être fixée sur une période bien déterminée. Les investisseurs craindront qu’une autre augmentation s’en suive sans qu’ils en soient prévenus. En effet de nombreux contrats signés à 70 gourdes devront être révisés si cette loi est appliquée. Par ailleurs, certaines organisations ont annoncé les couleurs réclamant déjà 400 gourdes lors d’une manifestation organisée le 1er mai dernier.
Des sources proches du parlement parlent déjà de défection du côté de certains parlementaires qui disent maintenant douter et prêts à faire volte face.
En attendant le torchon brûle. Des milliers d’employés concernés par l’application de cette loi sont impatients qu’elle soit promulguée.
Devra-t-on s’attendre à la création d’une nouvelle commission qui aura à réfléchir sur différentes propositions et faire des recommandations à la présidence? La loi sera-t-elle retournée au parlement pour des consultations et analyses additionnelles? Sera-t-elle promulguée comme le souhaitent les parlementaires et des milliers d'employés?
"Banm yon sigarèt", dit le président de la République.
Pour de nombreux analystes économiques, cette loi sur le salaire minimum aurait du être fixée sur une période bien déterminée. Les investisseurs craindront qu’une autre augmentation s’en suive sans qu’ils en soient prévenus. En effet de nombreux contrats signés à 70 gourdes devront être révisés si cette loi est appliquée. Par ailleurs, certaines organisations ont annoncé les couleurs réclamant déjà 400 gourdes lors d’une manifestation organisée le 1er mai dernier.
Des sources proches du parlement parlent déjà de défection du côté de certains parlementaires qui disent maintenant douter et prêts à faire volte face.
En attendant le torchon brûle. Des milliers d’employés concernés par l’application de cette loi sont impatients qu’elle soit promulguée.
Devra-t-on s’attendre à la création d’une nouvelle commission qui aura à réfléchir sur différentes propositions et faire des recommandations à la présidence? La loi sera-t-elle retournée au parlement pour des consultations et analyses additionnelles? Sera-t-elle promulguée comme le souhaitent les parlementaires et des milliers d'employés?
"Banm yon sigarèt", dit le président de la République.
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Se jan de politik san vizyon sa yo k ap fini ak ti peyi a pli mal ke jan li ye la a. Se pa ogmante salè minimòm ki pwoblèm nan. Men lè w mete salè a konpetitif ak peyi vwazen yo, eske wou genyen repondong pou w ka konpetitif ak yo tou sou lòt kritè ? Ki enfraktrikti ke w genyen ? Ki tarif dwanye ke w genyen ? Ki plas ke w genyen pami peyi ki fasilite envestisman ? ...
Tan pou nou bay goud la ranfò nan ogmante pwodiksyon nasyonal la nou pito lage plis zòrèy bourik nan lari. Pa bliye, plis zòrèy bourik ki an sikilasyon se plis enflasyon monte bwa.
Jiska prezan men sa ke konpetisè ki pi pre nou ap bay pou fasilite envestisman lakay yo.
Ideal Place for Starting a Business
Just think about starting a business in the Dominican Republic...
The Dominican Republic Free Zone was created to attract foreign investment. It offers a number of major incentives through tax, tariff and cost savings to those starting a business or setting up new operations or facilities in the Dominican Republic.
Typically a Free Zone would attract businesses involved in light manufacturing or assembly of 'hard goods'. It is also more frequently becoming the case that service operations such as call-centres and other administrative activities are recognising the considerable tax benefits offered by the Dominican Republic Free Zone.
One of the World's Top Five!
The Dominican Republic Free Zone offers particular advantages to those starting a business compared with other similar Zones. In fact it has been identified as being one of the world's top five current Free Zone opportunities.
This accolade has been awarded not only because the Dominican Republic is geographically close to the USA, but also because it has trade agreements with both the US and the European Union. This means, for instance, that on goods exported to European markets duties are reduced or even zero.
A summary of advantages offered by Free Zones:
•Easy access to transport and shipping
•Low labour and production costs
•Less red-tape and bureaucracy
•Reduced/Zero Tariffs or Duties on Imports and Exports
•Reduced/Zero taxes on profits
In the case of the Dominican Republic Free Zone some of the particular benefits for anyone starting a business include exemption from:
•Municipal Taxes and Export Duties
•Incorporation and Capital Gains Taxes
•Property, construction and mortgage title transfer taxes
•Business and Value Added Taxes
•Corporate Income Taxes
This exemption operates from the day that production/operation commences and applies for a 15 year, renewable, period!
If the business need to import:
•Any vehicles, including trucks, vans, buses (for transporting workers)
•Production Equipment and materials required for production
•Equipment or materials required for providing facilities for workers (such as catering, medical care, crèche/child care)
Import duties on all these items are also waived for operations established in the Dominican Republic Free Zone.
Even More Reasons to Start a Business in the D.R.!
It is also the case that the day-to-day running costs of an operation within the Free Zone will be much more economical than in many a company's 'home country'. If you are interested in setting up a Free Zone operation you will find leasehold costs, for example, (especially within Government owned compounds) are very reasonable. Utility and power charges and other running costs are also economical.
Another attractive aspect for many people considering starting a business operation within the Dominican Republic Free Zone are the relatively low labour costs. Even though there are minimum wage levels for Free Zone workers that have been established by the Government they are still well below those in the more developed countries of the western world.
We will be adding further advice and useful contacts for anyone thinking of moving a business to, or starting a business in, the Dominican Republic.
Meantime, if you are checking out our pages and we don't yet include the information you want just contact us with your query and we'll try to provide any information we have within 72 hours*.
Tan pou nou bay goud la ranfò nan ogmante pwodiksyon nasyonal la nou pito lage plis zòrèy bourik nan lari. Pa bliye, plis zòrèy bourik ki an sikilasyon se plis enflasyon monte bwa.
Jiska prezan men sa ke konpetisè ki pi pre nou ap bay pou fasilite envestisman lakay yo.
Ideal Place for Starting a Business
Just think about starting a business in the Dominican Republic...
The Dominican Republic Free Zone was created to attract foreign investment. It offers a number of major incentives through tax, tariff and cost savings to those starting a business or setting up new operations or facilities in the Dominican Republic.
Typically a Free Zone would attract businesses involved in light manufacturing or assembly of 'hard goods'. It is also more frequently becoming the case that service operations such as call-centres and other administrative activities are recognising the considerable tax benefits offered by the Dominican Republic Free Zone.
One of the World's Top Five!
The Dominican Republic Free Zone offers particular advantages to those starting a business compared with other similar Zones. In fact it has been identified as being one of the world's top five current Free Zone opportunities.
This accolade has been awarded not only because the Dominican Republic is geographically close to the USA, but also because it has trade agreements with both the US and the European Union. This means, for instance, that on goods exported to European markets duties are reduced or even zero.
A summary of advantages offered by Free Zones:
•Easy access to transport and shipping
•Low labour and production costs
•Less red-tape and bureaucracy
•Reduced/Zero Tariffs or Duties on Imports and Exports
•Reduced/Zero taxes on profits
In the case of the Dominican Republic Free Zone some of the particular benefits for anyone starting a business include exemption from:
•Municipal Taxes and Export Duties
•Incorporation and Capital Gains Taxes
•Property, construction and mortgage title transfer taxes
•Business and Value Added Taxes
•Corporate Income Taxes
This exemption operates from the day that production/operation commences and applies for a 15 year, renewable, period!
If the business need to import:
•Any vehicles, including trucks, vans, buses (for transporting workers)
•Production Equipment and materials required for production
•Equipment or materials required for providing facilities for workers (such as catering, medical care, crèche/child care)
Import duties on all these items are also waived for operations established in the Dominican Republic Free Zone.
Even More Reasons to Start a Business in the D.R.!
It is also the case that the day-to-day running costs of an operation within the Free Zone will be much more economical than in many a company's 'home country'. If you are interested in setting up a Free Zone operation you will find leasehold costs, for example, (especially within Government owned compounds) are very reasonable. Utility and power charges and other running costs are also economical.
Another attractive aspect for many people considering starting a business operation within the Dominican Republic Free Zone are the relatively low labour costs. Even though there are minimum wage levels for Free Zone workers that have been established by the Government they are still well below those in the more developed countries of the western world.
We will be adding further advice and useful contacts for anyone thinking of moving a business to, or starting a business in, the Dominican Republic.
Meantime, if you are checking out our pages and we don't yet include the information you want just contact us with your query and we'll try to provide any information we have within 72 hours*.
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se pou palmantè yo mete Preval an gad se swa li bay ouvriye yo satisfaktyon ou byen li mache bourik li.fok esklavaj fini an ayiti.Lè moun ap pale peyi ya pa genyen enfrastrikti se pa gouvenman an selman ki dwe mete enfrastrikti nan peyi ya isinn elektrik o zeta zuni se pa pou leta yo ye.konpayi telefonn yo se pa pou leta yo ye,tren ki ap transpote machandiz tout kote se pa pou leta yo ye. kisa esklavajis yo tap fè ;poukisa lè Schewsberry te kite peyi ya poukisa yo pat konnen ke popilatyon ap ogmante pou yo te mete isinn elektrik prive nan tout peyi ya.
Yo sot fè yon kou deta pou yo pa peye ouvirye yon salè ki pou pemet yo manje apre yo mande gouvenman an pou yo pa peye taks ake ki pou gouvenman mete enfrastrikti si yo pito koronp anploye leta pou yo pa peye taks.Fok yon moun mechan anpil wi pou di yon kote la vi si chè pou di ke yo pa dwe anploye yon moun ki ap travay 5 dola pa jou.komsi yo si yo te an ayiti yo tap dakor pou yo travay pou 5 dola pa jou.
Yo sot fè yon kou deta pou yo pa peye ouvirye yon salè ki pou pemet yo manje apre yo mande gouvenman an pou yo pa peye taks ake ki pou gouvenman mete enfrastrikti si yo pito koronp anploye leta pou yo pa peye taks.Fok yon moun mechan anpil wi pou di yon kote la vi si chè pou di ke yo pa dwe anploye yon moun ki ap travay 5 dola pa jou.komsi yo si yo te an ayiti yo tap dakor pou yo travay pou 5 dola pa jou.
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Politik pa fèt ak kè, se ak tèt ke sa fèt. Mwen prè pou m dakò ke salè minimòm peyi a monte USD$ 10/heure si tout kondisyon reyini pou sa pa backfire nan figi nou. Malice twò gran moun pou l ap pale ak emosyon konsa. Yo gen dwa touche 200 gdes jodi a, epi yon lane apre yo vini pi pòv ke jan yo te ye ak 70 gdes la. Mande yo kòman sa te ye lè te konn ap touche 15 gdes anvan 1995 ? Nou chita la ap geri sentòm, men nou pa janm atake maladi an nan li menm, nan konsa nou genyen pou monte salè minimòm nan chak 3 mwa. Pa bliye ke povrete oubyen richès yon pèp se pa nonb de zòrèy bourik ki nan men yo, men se pouvwa dacha yo, se sèvis ak byen ki an disponibilite yo.
Yon kesyon pou Sans Malice: eske l ap envesti nan yon konpayi elektrik an Ayiti ?
Yon kesyon pou Sans Malice: eske l ap envesti nan yon konpayi elektrik an Ayiti ?
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ou pose yon bel kestyon e map reponn w ak onètete,sim ka envesti lajanm nan konpayi chinwa nan konpayi elektrik New York ki mwa pwochen la pral voye ti dividdann ban nou poukisa si yon konpayi elektrik an ayiti te dirije pa moun konpetan, onet e dynamik mwen pa ta envesti yon ti lajan ladann tou?Se sa menm ke kreten yo dwe fè se pa chita ap di pa genyen enfrastrikti se yo ki pou konstwi enfrastrikti yo.e se nou nan dyaspora ki pou envesti lajan nou nan konpayi ayisyen ki byen jere.se egoyist ,mank patroyotism ki fè pa genyen enfrastrikti nan peyi ya.Lè moun tankou Canergie tap envesti nan chemin de fer o Zeta Zuni li pat rete tann leta pou fè sa. Lè Thomas Edison te mete premye isinn elektrik nan New York se pa leta li te tann ki pou fè sa.Lè Rockefeller te kreye Esso se pa leta li te tann pou te fè sa.Lè bill Gates te kreye Micorosoft se pa leta li te tann ki pou fè sa.gade byen tout gwo konpayi ameriken tankou GE,GM, Ford,At&T,Boeing , Mac Donald,konpayi tren yo se pa pou leta yo ye.
ou di se pa mete zorey bourik nan men ouvriye ki ap ogmante pouvwa dacha yo e ba yo yon meyè kalite vi ;dakor.men enflatyon se pa yon pwoblem ki eksiste an ayiti selman.menm moun ki retrete o Zeta Zuni genyen yon ti ogmantatyon chak ane nan lajan pansyon yo ,nan lajan sosyal sekirite yo ki base sou CPI(Consumer price index)poukisa gouvenman an e konpayi yo fè sa se pou yo mentni pouvwa dacha ouvriye ameriken yo. lè m tap travay se chak ane kontra ke syndika negosye ak konpayi ba nou yon ogmantatyon.ki dernye fwa ouvriye ayisyen te jwen yon ti ogmantatyon salè?de lè sa a jodya konbyen enflatyon an ogmante?Mezanmi genyen yon ti konsyans.moun yo fok yo manje pou yo viv.Wi fok leta mete lajan peyi ya nan moyen pwodiktyon ki pou kreye plis byen ak servis,fok yo mete yon bon jan family planing pou genyen mwens moun ki ap achte ti kras sa nou pwodwi konsa offre la ka vinn egal a demann lan.Men tou tan se etranje ki ap ba nou lajan pou nou balanse bidjè gouvenman ;nou pa ka envesti nan sa ki pwodwi plis byen ak servis e byen se lave men siye a tè.nanpren lot moun ki ka resoud pwoblem nou si nou pa vle chanje jan nou ap gouvène peyi ya.se sak fè mwen renmen fraz saa konsa:'If you always do the same thing you have always done ;you will always get what you always got."se pa manti.
nou kite yon paket machann kenkay ,machan twel vinn ekspwate ouvriye yo epi koulyè ya se nou menm ki konplis yo pou perpetye esklavaj la.ki te mele yo ke peyi ya pa genyen enfrastrikti. depi yo ka vin achte diri Miami pou yo revann li a pri for pou yo fè gwo benefis ki te regade yo si pa genyen lopital nan peyi ya.si abitan pa ka viv ak sa yo pwodwi.yo ka toujou peye yon mèsenè pou fouke moun ki ap mande pou yo peye taks e pou yo peye ouvriye yon salè ki pou pemet yo manje.menm kob benefis yo fè nan peyi ya se pa la yo envesti li.
ou di se pa mete zorey bourik nan men ouvriye ki ap ogmante pouvwa dacha yo e ba yo yon meyè kalite vi ;dakor.men enflatyon se pa yon pwoblem ki eksiste an ayiti selman.menm moun ki retrete o Zeta Zuni genyen yon ti ogmantatyon chak ane nan lajan pansyon yo ,nan lajan sosyal sekirite yo ki base sou CPI(Consumer price index)poukisa gouvenman an e konpayi yo fè sa se pou yo mentni pouvwa dacha ouvriye ameriken yo. lè m tap travay se chak ane kontra ke syndika negosye ak konpayi ba nou yon ogmantatyon.ki dernye fwa ouvriye ayisyen te jwen yon ti ogmantatyon salè?de lè sa a jodya konbyen enflatyon an ogmante?Mezanmi genyen yon ti konsyans.moun yo fok yo manje pou yo viv.Wi fok leta mete lajan peyi ya nan moyen pwodiktyon ki pou kreye plis byen ak servis,fok yo mete yon bon jan family planing pou genyen mwens moun ki ap achte ti kras sa nou pwodwi konsa offre la ka vinn egal a demann lan.Men tou tan se etranje ki ap ba nou lajan pou nou balanse bidjè gouvenman ;nou pa ka envesti nan sa ki pwodwi plis byen ak servis e byen se lave men siye a tè.nanpren lot moun ki ka resoud pwoblem nou si nou pa vle chanje jan nou ap gouvène peyi ya.se sak fè mwen renmen fraz saa konsa:'If you always do the same thing you have always done ;you will always get what you always got."se pa manti.
nou kite yon paket machann kenkay ,machan twel vinn ekspwate ouvriye yo epi koulyè ya se nou menm ki konplis yo pou perpetye esklavaj la.ki te mele yo ke peyi ya pa genyen enfrastrikti. depi yo ka vin achte diri Miami pou yo revann li a pri for pou yo fè gwo benefis ki te regade yo si pa genyen lopital nan peyi ya.si abitan pa ka viv ak sa yo pwodwi.yo ka toujou peye yon mèsenè pou fouke moun ki ap mande pou yo peye taks e pou yo peye ouvriye yon salè ki pou pemet yo manje.menm kob benefis yo fè nan peyi ya se pa la yo envesti li.
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Non! Sans Malice, wou pa t ap janm envesti lajan w nan yon konpayi elektrik an Ayiti. E rezon an senp, Nan yon peyi kote ke se anviwon 5% moun ki peye kouran an; e 95% ap itilze priz oubyen konbèlann, mwen pa kwè wou t ap pran risk sa a.
Konpayi ke w ap pale la yo pa enfrastrikti, Yo se pito resilta enfrastrikti ke Leta mete anplas. Kòman pou McDonald t ap fè pran tout peyi a si pat genyen wout pou kamyon yo al livre machandiz ? Kòman pou Edison t a mete izin elektrik nan New York, si New York se te yon bidonvil san oken estrikti ? Pa ka genyen chemen de fè san elektrisite, tren yo pa sèvi ak motè a vapè ankò. GE, GM, Ford, AT&T, Boeing... yo youn pa t ap posib si peyi a pat genyen yon minimòm enfrastrikti ki pou pèmèt epanwisman biznis.
Kite tèt wou frèt, an nou pale san la haine, an nou poze kesyon ak tèt nou, men pa ak kè nou. Si se vre ke se fòt malpwòp lokal yo ki refize envesti kòmsadwa. Kisa ki anpeche ke antreprenè dinamik ak eksperimante tankou Ameriken, Chinwa, Kanadyen, Fransè, elatriye... vinn pran piyay 1000% benefis, ke lòt kanmarad la te di, k ap fèt nan peyi a ? ...kòman dyaspora a fè kite malpwòp yo ap pran piyay sa yo ? Repons lan... se paske Peyi a pa biznis "friendly". Si bagay yo te petaw konsa, wou panse ke se mesye sa yo ki t ap genyen monopòl la ?
Mwen pa di pou pa genyen yon ogmantasyon salè minimòm nan, mwen jis vle mande w, si genyen 30.000 ouvriye, konbyen nan yo ke w vle sakrifye, voye al manje mang pou rès la ka touche 150% anplis ? Yon peyi ki deja pa ofri anyen pou atire envestisè kounyea w konprann ke wou ka genyen estanda lòt peyi ki genyen enfrastrikti 10 fwa plis pase Ayiti.
Si w ap fè yon etid pou w ka wè sou kisa pou w kwit manje w. Wou jwenn ke recho chabon an ak recho ak gaz pwopann lan ap koute w menm lajan pou fonksyonman yo, lè w pran an konsiderasyon ke chabon an ap fè w achte plis paydefè ak fab, l ap fè w achte bwapen, men w ak rad wou ap toujou sal, e l ap kraze poumon w ak lafimen... kisa nan yo ke w t ap chwazi ? ...ebyen Ayiti reprezante recho chabon an nan moman sa a.
N.B_ N ap pale yon bagay ki serye la a, pa vini foure zafè mafya ki t ap mande pou mafya parèy yo depoze lajan "taks" dirèkteman sou kont bankè pèsonèl yo. Lè mesye sa yo ap negosye kòman pou yo kòche bèf la, sa pa janm flite nan lari. Mwen pa bazwen konnen nonplis lè youn trayi lòt.
Konpayi ke w ap pale la yo pa enfrastrikti, Yo se pito resilta enfrastrikti ke Leta mete anplas. Kòman pou McDonald t ap fè pran tout peyi a si pat genyen wout pou kamyon yo al livre machandiz ? Kòman pou Edison t a mete izin elektrik nan New York, si New York se te yon bidonvil san oken estrikti ? Pa ka genyen chemen de fè san elektrisite, tren yo pa sèvi ak motè a vapè ankò. GE, GM, Ford, AT&T, Boeing... yo youn pa t ap posib si peyi a pat genyen yon minimòm enfrastrikti ki pou pèmèt epanwisman biznis.
Kite tèt wou frèt, an nou pale san la haine, an nou poze kesyon ak tèt nou, men pa ak kè nou. Si se vre ke se fòt malpwòp lokal yo ki refize envesti kòmsadwa. Kisa ki anpeche ke antreprenè dinamik ak eksperimante tankou Ameriken, Chinwa, Kanadyen, Fransè, elatriye... vinn pran piyay 1000% benefis, ke lòt kanmarad la te di, k ap fèt nan peyi a ? ...kòman dyaspora a fè kite malpwòp yo ap pran piyay sa yo ? Repons lan... se paske Peyi a pa biznis "friendly". Si bagay yo te petaw konsa, wou panse ke se mesye sa yo ki t ap genyen monopòl la ?
Mwen pa di pou pa genyen yon ogmantasyon salè minimòm nan, mwen jis vle mande w, si genyen 30.000 ouvriye, konbyen nan yo ke w vle sakrifye, voye al manje mang pou rès la ka touche 150% anplis ? Yon peyi ki deja pa ofri anyen pou atire envestisè kounyea w konprann ke wou ka genyen estanda lòt peyi ki genyen enfrastrikti 10 fwa plis pase Ayiti.
Si w ap fè yon etid pou w ka wè sou kisa pou w kwit manje w. Wou jwenn ke recho chabon an ak recho ak gaz pwopann lan ap koute w menm lajan pou fonksyonman yo, lè w pran an konsiderasyon ke chabon an ap fè w achte plis paydefè ak fab, l ap fè w achte bwapen, men w ak rad wou ap toujou sal, e l ap kraze poumon w ak lafimen... kisa nan yo ke w t ap chwazi ? ...ebyen Ayiti reprezante recho chabon an nan moman sa a.
N.B_ N ap pale yon bagay ki serye la a, pa vini foure zafè mafya ki t ap mande pou mafya parèy yo depoze lajan "taks" dirèkteman sou kont bankè pèsonèl yo. Lè mesye sa yo ap negosye kòman pou yo kòche bèf la, sa pa janm flite nan lari. Mwen pa bazwen konnen nonplis lè youn trayi lòt.
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