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Message  Sasaye Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 0:02


Haitian candidate wary of Aristide's planned return
7:20pm EST
By Kevin Gray

MIAMI (Reuters) - A candidate in Haiti's decisive presidential run-off said on Thursday she hoped popular former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide would delay his planned return to the country until after the election later this month.

"Personally, as a citizen, I would prefer that he comes back after the elections," former first lady Mirlande Manigat said in a news conference at Miami's International Airport.

"We are waiting for elections and the situation has been particularly agitated," she added.

Manigat, 70, faces musician Michel "Sweet Mickey" Martelly in the March 20 run-off. She emerged as a front-runner in the November 28 election in the volatile, earthquake-ravaged Caribbean country. The poll was widely criticized as chaotic and fraudulent.

The election also drew controversy over the fact that Aristide's Fanmi Lavalas political party was barred from running a candidate in the poll.

The run-off comes against the backdrop of Aristide's recent announcement that he is planning to return home, ending his prolonged exile in South Africa. He has kept everyone guessing about the timing.

"I think what we need now is more peace," Manigat said, The return of Aristide, a fire-brand left-wing populist, only threatened more "agitation" ahead of the election, she said.

Manigat did not elaborate on her comments suggesting possible unrest. But Aristide, a charismatic former Catholic priest, is loved by many of Haiti's poor and loathed by business leaders and the wealthy elite.

He became Haiti's first freely elected president in 1991 but spent much of his first five-year term in exile after a military coup. Elected again in 2000, his second term was soured by economic instability and gang and drug-related violence. He was finally ousted in a 2004 rebellion led by former soldiers. Aristide says Washington orchestrated it.

Haiti's outgoing government, under intense international pressure to keep shaky U.N.-backed elections on track, has said it cannot keep a citizen from returning and has issued a diplomatic passport for Aristide.

But the possibility that he could return before the March run-off has led the United States, the United Nations and other major western donors to signal they would view such a move as, at best, unhelpful, and at worst, potentially dangerous.

(Writing by Tom Brown; Editing by Paul Simao)

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Message  Le gros roseau Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 9:35

This is the hyprocrisy I hate so much with these house slaves.Would Myrlande Manigat accept that somebody told Leslie Manigat that he can not retrun to haiti after the military dictatorship of General Namphy who overthrew her husband?

Sometimes you wonder if it would not be better that the poor people of haiti vote for Michel Martelly despite his imoral behavior of the past.why can't she shut up if she doesn't know what to say.How can she pretend to be a professor of constitutional law and declare that as a citizen she would prefer that Aristide doesn't return to his country before the election?This is what I was talking about :I don't think the Manigat are revolutionaries.Haiti doesn't need any house slave right now.

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Message  ed428 Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 12:37

President Aristide has been in exile for more than seven years, and the election is less than three weeks away. So, what's wrong with the idea if he were to return in April and celebrate Easter with the people?

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Message  dilibon Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 12:47

ed428 a écrit:President Aristide has been in exile for more than seven years, and the election is less than three weeks away. So, what's wrong with the idea if he were to return in April and celebrate Easter with the people?

wrong!

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Message  ed428 Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 13:00

What are you talking about? Didn't President Aristide leave Haiti on February 2004? Are we not in March 2011? Isn't that seven years and a few weeks? Believe you me, a rocket scientist I'm not, but I do know how to count!!! Jwet pou wou!!!!
By the way any news from doctor Theodore? How is he?

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Message  piporiko Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 13:47

dilibon a écrit:
ed428 a écrit:President Aristide has been in exile for more than seven years, and the election is less than three weeks away. So, what's wrong with the idea if he were to return in April and celebrate Easter with the people?

wrong!

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DEFINITIVEMENT ,SAW EKRI A MONTRE OU SE YON IDIO/BOURIK MORN....

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Message  dilibon Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 14:44

ed428 a écrit:What are you talking about? Didn't President Aristide leave Haiti on February 2004? Are we not in March 2011? Isn't that seven years and a few weeks? Believe you me, a rocket scientist I'm not, but I do know how to count!!! Jwet pou wou!!!!
By the way any news from doctor Theodore? How is he?

Don't you have his phone number and email? Then, make a search on www.google.com

De 29 fevrier 2004 a 29 fecrier 2012 ca fait combien de 29 fevrier? Alors on compte les annees par 4!

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Message  dilibon Ven 4 Mar 2011 - 14:45

piporiko a écrit:
dilibon a écrit:
ed428 a écrit:President Aristide has been in exile for more than seven years, and the election is less than three weeks away. So, what's wrong with the idea if he were to return in April and celebrate Easter with the people?

wrong!

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S'IL DOIT RETOURNER APRES 25 ANS, A VOUS DE FAIRE LES MATHS


DEFINITIVEMENT ,SAW EKRI A MONTRE OU SE YON IDIO/BOURIK MORN....

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Message  revelation Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 8:55

Rozo obseve ke: madan Manigat konnen byen li foure pyel byen fon nan bouch li lè li di yon idyosi konsaselman ka efarouche pov yo [pep] la!
Le yon kandida ap mande vot pep yon pa di bagay pou fe pep la mal!
Madam te dwe fe silans sou kestyon saa!

Map di ke retou Aristide la konplike anpil! Aristide mande pou'l tounnen nan peyi! Minister Affer etranjer la di kenbe Aristide an 'otaj" against his will illegal.
Fok nou fe'l ale immediatman lakay li!

Jacob Zuma ak Parleman peyi Afrik di Sid fe yon frekan ak "peyi gwo ponyet yo" e yo mande pou mesye sa yo ranbouse yo pou tout lajan ke Afrik Di Sid depanse pou sejour Aristide le MBeki te la.
Mesye gwo ponyet yo signen yon "agreement" avek Parleman Afrik Di Sid pou rambouse yo pou depanse sa yo de Fevrye 2004 jiska no jour.
Avek yon nan kondisyon "clause" ke se yo ki gen dwa di kile pou Aristide kite Afrik Di Sid!
Se Sak fe reprezantan Frans, US la pemet yo di ke pa avan 20 Mars!

Donk Jacob Zuma wont nan zafe kenbe Aristide an "otaj" saa malgre ke li mande pou'l ale lakay li.
Zuma pa jamb resevwa Aristide ni jamb fe yon foto offisyel ak li depi li vinn Prezidan Afrik Di Sid!

Zuma kontakte, Venezuela ak Cuba pou yo lague Aristide lakay yo. Yo di Zuma, si peyi Afrik Di Sid gen yon "kontra" ak mesye gwo ponyet yo, fok w respekte kontra sa.

Manigat ou Martelly, Lelite opozan an e kominote internasyonal la pra'l ge travay pou yo fe sou zafe Aristide saa le nouvo Prezidan monte o pouvwa!

Paske pep la ni Aristide ni Afrik Di Sid pakab tand anko!
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Message  Joel Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 9:16

Tout nèg anti-LAVALAS primè yo ;n ap konn JÒJ.
Se tankou yo di se yon antikominis tankou NIXON ki te ka oze etabli relasyon diplomatik ak CHINE KOMINIS.
Se menm jan tou se yon moun tankou PREVAL ki te ka mennen yon politik osi anti-ARISTIDE ak anti-LAVALAS.

Se yon zo ARISTIDE ;menm ann AFRIK DISID ap vin lan gòj zòt.
Yon sèl jan pou sa pa fèt,se si ou byen Madan MANIGAT ou byen MATELI ta vin de prezidan eksepsyonèl.

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Message  revelation Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 9:51

Jacob Zuma, Parleman Afrik di Sid la, Brezil pa inosan nan retou Aristide sa.

Minister Affer etranjer Afrik Di Sid la gen anpil pressyon sou yo! Demand ofisyel e piblik Aristide pou'l tounnen lakay li fet pou respekte immediatman!
Jan Joel di a: L'affair Aristide se yon zô pwasson ki kwoke nan goj kominote internasyonal la!

Map chache e vini avek plis infomasyon sou sa e si lot moun gen infomasyon sa yo, yo te met pataje yo ak nou!
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Message  Invité Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 9:59

Paske pep la ni Aristide ni Afrik Di Sid pakab tand anko!

DE KI PEP MISIE AP PALE LA!!!LOL
ANR PEP AFRIK DI SID LA YO DEPANSE TWOP POU GWO RADOTE DYOL KK A.
ON NEG KAP FE 200 MOUN LAN MANDE RETOUR LI !!!
LOL LOL
PIYAY LA FINI.

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Message  revelation Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 10:43

Zouke di: DE KI PEP MISIE AP PALE LA!!!LOL
ANR PEP AFRIK DI SID LA YO DEPANSE TWOP POU GWO RADOTE DYOL KK A.
ON NEG KAP FE 200 MOUN LAN MANDE RETOUR LI !!!
LOL LOL
PIYAY LA FINI.
Byen ke nou pa dako ak betiz e mô sal ke w itilize pou bay opinion w, men nou dako le w di ke 200 moun pap sifi pou retou Aristide.

Fok gen yon "komite Dakey" pou resevwa Aristide lakay li. Gen anpil moun chef Deta etranje e akademia Ayisyen ki dako pou fe pati komite dakey silaa, paske Fanmi Lavalas pou kont li pakab fe travay sa ki mande anpil lojistik e koordinasyon e sitou sekirite pandan festivite sa yo.

Gen anpil moun kap di ke Aristide ap plis yon pwoblem ke yon solisyon pou peyi a!
Ayiti chaje ak pwoblem! Donk yon pwoblem anplis pap deranje!

Aristide di ke li pavle antre lakay li nan fe nwa, ni chita manje diriz ak pwa, griot e bwe tafia!
Sa pa sanble'l!

Kom li di deja, lap tounnen vinn travay pou peyi'l!
Gen anpil travay pou tout moun nan peyi saa.
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Message  Invité Sam 5 Mar 2011 - 12:03

DEPI 20 TAN NOU GINYEN YUN POUVWA LAN MIN NOU, NOU RADOTE AVEK LI JUSKA C KE PEP LA VAG NOU KOM' BLOFE NAP KRIYE TOUJOU POU POUVWA KONBYEN TAN NOU BEZOIN LA ALO.
MESIE C LAN KATALOG NA WE ARISTIDE DEALER DROG LAN PAYI DAYITI.
PA GINYEN MOUN KI TE VOYE ARISTIDE ALE VAN BIEN LETA AK KOKAYINE.
EN PASAN REVELATION EXKIZE MWEN POU BETIZ YO SA PAP FET ENKO.

MWEN DI BIEN FO FOK YO FOUKE NI DUVALIER NI ARISTIDE NI PREVAL ABIYE YO EN PRIZONYE FE YO MACHE RAMASE FATRA LAN LA WI NA KOMANSE BY YUN EXAMP A PAYI SA POU VAGABON PA VINI BLOFE MOUN ENKO
C PA AIDE YO BEZOIN AIDE MWEN KWES C DIOB SA YO MERITE POU MAL YO FE AYITI.

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Zouke di: DEPI 20 TAN NOU GINYEN YUN POUVWA LAN MIN NOU, NOU RADOTE AVEK LI JUSKA C KE PEP LA VAG NOU KOM' BLOFE NAP KRIYE TOUJOU POU POUVWA KONBYEN TAN NOU BEZOIN LA ALO.
Zouke nou pa finn dako avek w sou sa ke w di la.
Apre JC Duvalier te sove kite peyi a, tout moun te konprand nou nan yon "bamboch demokratik". Anpil Diaspora intellektyel klass mwayenn peyi a, professe, ingenye, dokte etc ki tap viv Kanada, USA. Frans, Cuba, Venezuela retounnen nan peyi yo pou patisipe nan 'bamboch demokratik" saa.

Byen ke yo konsantre yo sou rev e ambisyon politik yo. Fok nou di ke
Intellektyel sa yo ba nou yon konstitisyon, 2 grenn goch ou pa, nou kap chanje'l si nou vle.
Intelektyel sa yo banou:
Libete a la pawol! Nenpot moun di sa yo vle, nan jounal, television, nan radyo etc.
Libete pou nou oganize pati politik. Nou pat gen sa avan!
Libete pou nou chwazi prezidan, senate, depite, maire etc.. Nou pat gen sa avan!

Tout benefis a longterm sa yo ki se baz demokratik, peyi Dayiti an gwo pa kapitalize e profite de sa.
Klass elite bizniss entreprenaryal la pa INVESTI nan konstwi lekol, yo pa konstwi l'hopital, yo pa konstwi lojman, yo pa ouvri pot pou system banker e micro-investiman pou malere.
INVESTISMAN nan HUMAIN saa yo Klass elite bizniss entreprenaryal la pa profite fe'l.

Yo profite de avantaj bamboch demokratik ke klass intelektyel la mete sou pye pou yo investi nan politik de preferans.

Yo finanse e investi nan koudeta, yo investi e finanse mache nwa,.
Yo finanse e investi nan destabilizasyon pou fe fos etranje antre nan peyi a.
Yo investi e finanse kay ak lhotel, restauran, whorehouse ak warehouse pou louye a etranje.

Se lelite bizniss entreprenaryal sa yo makonnen ak elite politik kap benefisye de malediksyon peyi a. Yo mete intere pa yo avan intere pep e peyi a.
Ki yes ki anba tant konnyen la?? Ki yes kap mouri de kolera konnyen la??

Li le pou pep la kale je yo e pran destine yo nan men yo! Lelite intelekteyl/politik a lelite bizniss entreprenaryal la pa nan avantaj yo.

Nan 15 jou ki retela, ke yo chwazi Manigat ou Martelly se 2 chwa sa yo ke yo gennyen!
Fok nou la pou nou defand dwa yo e rele ammwee le yap toupi zi yo!!
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Mesye fè soustraktyon an byen se pa 20 tan se 15 lane selman ke lavalas e inite espwa preval la fè ap dirije peyi ya epi si yon moun genyen konsyans ou pa ka di preval genyen yon ti pwèlyem interè pep la nan tet li ankò.Jodya preval pi boujwa pase neg Bourdon ke Stanley konn ap kritike yo.Ki donk nou ka di se 5 lane ke lavalas fè ap dirije peyi ya anba anbago sabotaj e boujwasi patripoch e enternational la.epi se an 2 mi temps ke yo te ba yo fè 5 lane saa anba redi.Ki donk fok yon moun onet pou genyen kouraj di la verite.echek saa ke nap gade la se pa lavalas ki repsonsab li byen ke yo pat prepare vre pou yo pran direktyon mouvman popilè ya.

Jodya se fos pwogresis yo ki pou rebati tonel la sou yon lot baz ak yon nouvo lidership revolutyonè.chache bouk emisè tout la sent jounen se pa mwen se wou pap retire moun yo nan grangou kloroks,nan iyorans lan ni anba kolera ak anba tant yo.Menm si nou dwe lite pou dwa tout ayisyen rekonet men tou genyen yon seri moun ki montre deja ke yo pa ka pran gouvènay revolutyon ki merite fet la.

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Message  revelation Dim 6 Mar 2011 - 11:25

Rozo di: Mesye fè soustraktyon an byen se pa 20 tan se 15 lane selman ke lavalas e inite espwa preval la fè ap dirije peyi ya.
Rozo, se pa de adisyon ni de soustraksyon ke sije deba ye!
Se yon kestyon de jeu de fos politik kap fet la.

Reprezantan USA ak Frans di ke yo pa vle retou Aristide avan 20 Mars pou yon kestion de SEKIRITE.
Madam Manigat di ke li pa vle retou Aristide avan 20 Mars paske li kap INFLIYANSE rezilta vot yo memm si Lavalas pa nan eleksyon.

Aristide ak passpo li deye poch li mande retounnen lakay li IMMEDIATMAN!!
Afrik di Sid di fok yo exzekite demand saa paske kenbe Aristide, ap illegal devan la lwa.

Si nou vle rekonstwi peyi sa dan legalite e respe dwa moun fok nou mete lwa sa yo an aplikasyon.
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Message  Le gros roseau Dim 6 Mar 2011 - 11:32

se Zouke mwen te reponn ki ap pale de 20 lane.tout moun konnen se pa vre.tout moun genyen dwa di sa yo vle.mwen deja di ke madan manigat konnen byen ke se pyel li foure nan bouch li lè li ap mande pou Aristide pa tounen lakay li anvan 20 mars.Mwen te deja mandel si genyen moun ki te ka di Leslie pa ka tounen an ayiti apre rey militè yo?Ki jan fè li pa di anyen de jean claude Duvalier yo lage nan kof lestomak li tou den kou la?dan pouri toujou genyen fos sou bannan mi ;se bon pou lwa Aristide va aprann ke si w pa pre pou pran chalè di fe nan kwisinn lan ou pa rantre ladann pran poz chef w.

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