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Message  revelation Mar 15 Mar 2011 - 14:09

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Gouvenman Afrik di Sid di ke gouvenman Ayisyen gen lot demach protokoler pou yo fe pou Aristide retounen lakay li.
Ba li yon passpo ak visa pa sifi. Fok gen yon delegasyon reprezantan ofisyel gouvenman ayisyen an ki pou vinn chache’l.

Gouvenman Ayisyen an ap trennnen piye’l touchou sou koze saa. Yo di ke se sitwayen Aristide kap tounnen, se pa Prezidan Aristide.

An 1994, gouvenman Ameriken Bill Clinton te voye Prezidan Aristide tounnen anba zel proteksyon 20,000 solda Marines.pou yo te sa garanti proteksyon presidan an.

Sanble ke a n 2011 system de proteksyon e lojistik sa yo pap existe anko.
Parleman Pretoria di ke yo pap fe an 2011 sa gouvenman Ameriken te fe an 1994. Gouvenman Ayisyen di ke si JC Duvalier kap pran chans tounnen san proteksyon lakay li, sitwayen Aristide gen dwa fe memm bagay la tou.

Kestion ke nou ap poze nou se ke eske sou gouvenman Preval la de 20 Mars a 15 April 2011 Prezidan Aristide ap gennyen memm privilej ak JC Duvalier si’l tounnen?
Apre inoguiration ki attitid ke nouvo gouvenman Martelly ou Manigat ap pran pou garanti proteksyon yon ansyen presidan.
Eske yap mete foumi nan piyel e fose’l retounnen an exzil anko?

Tou kestyon sa yo e yon band lot anko poko finn kle. Aristide gen dwa rentre e pran chans li!
Mais a quel prix?
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Message  Maximo Mar 15 Mar 2011 - 14:23

Si mwen byen konpwann, Aristide pa vle tounen san ke yo pa garanti li gwo proteksyon, se sèten ke lap jwen menm privièj ak JCD, paske misye pa jwenn anken privilèj nan men leta Ayisyen, se zanmi kap ede'l, ki prete li kay, e misye ap viv tankou ninpot sitwayen, yo te menm arete li e menen li o pakè. Donk fok misye reziyen li ak menm so JCD, e fè on ti mache nan pakè tou, men ak diferans ke preskripsyon pa ko kouvri move zak li yo.
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Message  dilibon Mar 15 Mar 2011 - 14:50

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Mwen pa kwe non! Paske dapre sam tande - mwen poko verifye - sanble msie mande pou pep la mete MALANGA nan soup la! Pinga yo bwe soup la san Man-i-gat ou byen Malanga! Ou konpwann???

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Mwen pa kwe non! Paske dapre sam tande - mwen poko verifye - sanble msie mande pou pep la mete MALANGA nan soup la! Pinga yo bwe soup la san Man-i-gat ou byen Malanga! Ou konpwann???


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Gen yon seri de fô nouvel kap sikile ke Aristide gen poul tounnen semenn saa, avan eleksyon etc.

Anpil propagand AFP, France24 kap voye pep la pou yo al pran la rue pou yo tand Aristide.

Tout sa se distraksyon pou fe pep la pedi loloj yo pou yo pa al vote le 20 Mars e pou akize Aristide de destabilizater e lonje dwet sou li si dezod peté..

Kanpagn prezidantyel la ap pran fin nan kelke jou e okenn patizan kandida Manigat ou Martelly pa fet pou pran la rue, ni manifeste jis ka Dimanch matin jou pou yo al voté.

Donk tout aktivite konsernan retou sa fixé pou apré eleksyon.
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Malgre avertisman ke Aristide resevwa nan men gwotoro yo pou'l pa tounnen an Ayiti avan eleksyon yo, sanble ke lap pran chans li kanmemm!
Nou souwete'l BonnChans e anyen pa rive'l ni fanmi'l!!


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Message  Joel Mer 16 Mar 2011 - 18:27

SA K PASE REV?

W ap fè l menas?

Ou sonje sa sasinaj AQUINO an te fè prezidan MARCOS?
Al touye ARISTIDE e pa p gen ase twoup MINUSTAH pou ta pwoteje zòt.

Misye ap tounen anvan eleksyon ;paske li pa konn kijan sitiyasyon an ap ye ,apre eleksyon an .
Ou konnen byen ou pa ka fè politisyen ayisyen konfyans

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Message  revelation Mer 16 Mar 2011 - 20:38

Joel di: SA K PASE REV?

W ap fè l menas?
Nou souwete'l BonnChans e anyen pa rive'l ni fanmi'l! Sa yo se bon souwe! Se pa menas non Joel! Fe attansyon pa vle di kapon pousa.

Aristide pa jeun gason anko, neg la gen fanmi memm jan ak nou. An nou pa voye yon moun al fe bravado si nou memm nou pap fe li.
Si li antre avan date gwotoro yo, nan mal nan mal net e advienne que pourra!

Sak rive rive nou tout ap nan batay memm jan ke nou abitye fe.
Antouka, Aristide pa nan politik anko e nou souwete ke li pap sipote pesonn..

Se Manigat ak Martelly ki pral frappe konn yo Dimanch.
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Message  Le gros roseau Mer 16 Mar 2011 - 20:50

nanpren moun ki ka di Dr Aristide sa poul fè ak sa poul pa fè sil deside tounen lakay li se desisyon li pran ak madanm li.Se poul jije nan peyil sil fè krim.men yo pa ka vle se sud Afriken yo ki geolier Aristide pou yo.se pou la frans al mennen li o Fort de Joux tankou yo te menen Toussiant Louverture.ou byen se pou Obama voye DEA arete l an ayiti poul jije menm jan ak Noriega.sil te konn vann drug o Zeta Zuni.

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Message  Invité Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 6:29

ctor Danny Glover arrived in South Africa on Thursday to escort former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide home, the politician's lawyer said.

Miami lawyer Ira Kurzban flew to Johannesburg Wednesday to accompany Aristide back to Haiti amid unexplained delays attributed to U.S. opposition.

The star of the "Lethal Weapon" action movies arrived Thursday morning, Kurzban said.

The United States has called for Aristide to put off his departure until Sunday's disputed presidential run-off in his homeland, saying his return would distract voters.

Aristide, who emerged as a leading voice for Haiti's poor in a popular revolt that forced an end to the Duvalier family's 29-year dictatorship, remains Haiti's most popular politician though he has been in exile seven years.

He has said he will not be involved in politics in Haiti and wants to lead his foundation's efforts to improve education in the impoverished Caribbean nation devastated by last year's catastrophic earthquake. Aides say he fears the winner of the presidential elections might reverse the long-awaited decision to allow his return. Both are right-wing candidates long opposed to Aristide.

Glover, who is board chair for the human rights and social advocacy organization TransAfrica Forum, is among several U.S. celebrities who have been pushing for Aristide's speedy return, including politicians Jesse Jackson, U.S. envoy to Haiti Paul Farmer and entertainer Harry Belafonte.

"I am going to South Africa to show our solidarity with the people of Haiti by standing at the side of the leader they elected twice with overwhelming support," Glover wrote on the TransAfrica Forum website.

"People of good conscience cannot be idle while a former dictator (Duvalier) is able to return unhindered while a democratic leader who peacefully handed over power to another elected president is restricted from returning to his country by external forces," Glover said.

Kurzban blamed Aristide's delayed trip on arranging an aircraft. Air charter companies in South Africa said a private jet would cost more than half a million dollars.

South African officials said they are consulting with "interested parties" on the logistics of moving Aristide, his wife and two daughters.

Glover and nine others recently wrote to South African President Jacob Zuma urging him to "assist the Aristides in making their transition as soon as possible" since "all the last remaining obstacles to the Aristides' return have been removed."

http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/etn/news_content.php?id=1545285

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Message  Joel Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 7:31

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Joel di: SA K PASE REV?

W ap fè l menas?
Nou souwete'l BonnChans e anyen pa rive'l ni fanmi'l! Sa yo se bon souwe! Se pa menas non Joel! Fe attansyon pa vle di kapon pousa.

Aristide pa jeun gason anko, neg la gen fanmi memm jan ak nou. An nou pa voye yon moun al fe bravado si nou memm nou pap fe li.
Si li antre avan date gwotoro yo, nan mal nan mal net e advienne que pourra!

Sak rive rive nou tout ap nan batay memm jan ke nou abitye fe.
Antouka, Aristide pa nan politik anko e nou souwete ke li pap sipote pesonn..

Se Manigat ak Martelly ki pral frappe konn yo Dimanch.
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ARISTIDE pa wou,pa mwen ;nou paka fè menm konsiderasyon yo.Gwotoro yo ,jan w rele yo an pa gen men lib;yo pa ka fè sa yo vle.
Nou pa p viv an 1961,lè yo te touye LUMUMBA.Mwen te wè yon dokimantè kote mesye sèvis sekrè BÈLJ yo ki lan 90s yo ,t ap dekri ,lan yon ton monotòn kijan yo te touye LUMUMBA e boule kadav lan pou yo pa kite tras.

Tan yo tèlman chanje ke la JISTIS lan CHILI apre preske 40 an ,ap fè ankèt pou konnen si ALLENDE te touye tèt li vre.

TAN YO CHANJE e petèt ARISTIDE lè l debake lan PÒTOPRENS se kapab moun ki pi ""safe"" ki ka genyen ;paske si yon bagay ta rive l ;y ap mete l sou do sèvis sekrè ameriken ak franse yo.

Epitou AMY GOODMAN ap lan avyon an.Si w pa konnen chache konnen sa ki te pase lan EAST TIMOR ,lè ENDONEZI te anvayi ti peyi e li te la.
AMY GOODMAN te tèlman kreye yon ""stink"" lan radyo ak show televizyon l,ak lan INIVÈSITE yo tou ke gouvènman ameriken an ,te blije mete presyon sou gouvènman ENDONEZI an fè l fè bak.

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Message  Thunder Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 7:52

Genyen yon pwovèb ke mwen te konn tande ki di konsa:

Jamais 2 sans 3, et la 3ième fois sera la bonne.
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Thunder a écrit:Genyen yon pwovèb ke mwen te konn tande ki di konsa:

Jamais 2 sans 3, et la 3ième fois sera la bonne.

Jamais 2 sans 3?

Ou konnen moun ki etènèl?
Ou kapab mouri a 1an,30 an ,40 an ;menm jan ou ka mouri a 100 an.
Yo konte ke gen plis ke 40 atanta ki te fèt sou CASTRO.
Li la toujou.
ARISTIDE pa konn kilè l ap mouri ;se menm bagay pou advèsè li yo


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Rayi Castro, men di ke li genyen grenn

Renmen Aristide, aksepte ke li se yon kodenn
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Message  Joel Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 9:22

Thunder a écrit:Rayi Castro, men di ke li genyen grenn

Renmen Aristide, aksepte ke li se yon kodenn

THUNDER;

CASTRO se CASTRO;ARISTIDE se ARISTIDE.

Gen yon sèl CASTRO.Pou yon moun defye pi gran pwisans sou tè an ;pandan plis ke 50 an e ou siviv;kilès ankò ki ka fè sa.
Apre ke nèg sa a mouri;pa p gen tankou l ankò.

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Message  revelation Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 12:06


Prezidan Aristide sipoze bay yon konferans de Press jody a nan aeropo Lanseria ve zonn 8:45PM. Li pra'l di media yo ki plan li pou voyaj sa e ki sa ke li pral fe an Ayiti pou ede peyi'l.

Jiska prezan, Aristide poko di minister afer etranjer Afrik di Sid ki le li pra'l pran avion pou Ayiti.
Se pa nou kap voye Aristide ale, se li ki mande pou'l ale.

Nou cheke ak anpil airline e ajans voyaj pou nou konnen si Aristide fe reservasyon. Okenn rezilta jiska prezan.

Nou pa konnen si se avion prive kap mennen'l Ayiti.
Nap tand toujou.


South Africa: Aristide Due at Airport Late Thursday

Johannesburg —Former Haitian president Jean-Bertrand Aristide would address the media at Lanseria airport in Johannesburg later on Thursday, the foreign ministry said, suggesting that he was leaving South Africa after seven years in exile.

"We are inviting the media to Lanseria airport at 8.45 pm. He will speak to the media. He may discuss his plans," foreign ministry spokesman Clayson Monyela told Sapa.

Earlier on Thursday Minister in the Presidency Collins Chabane told reporters Aristide had failed to give the government any indication of when he planned to return to the Caribbean island nation.

Chabane reiterated that despite US warnings on the timing of the move, Pretoria would not press the charismatic former leader to wait until after Sunday's run-off presidential polls to go home.

He said the South African government could not hold Aristide "hostage".
"What I should stress is that we are not sending former president Aristide to Haiti. He was given the passport by the government of Haiti and we can't hold him hostage if he wants to go.

"So that is an issue which they are supposed to resolve themselves, but we can't be held responsible for whether he should go or not go."
The US State Department has cautioned that Aristide's return seemed calculated to influence Sunday's vote.

Media reports have said both US President Barack Obama and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon called President Jacob Zuma to ask that he persuade Aristide to wait until after the election.
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/201103170851.html
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Message  Joel Jeu 17 Mar 2011 - 12:46

Dènye nouvèl sou retou an.Entèvyou AMY GOODMAN ak DANNY GLOVER lan ayewopò an:

http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2011/3/17/danny_glover_in_south_africa_im_here_to_accompany_my_friend_pres_aristide_back_to_haiti

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Now, both Michel Martelly and Mirlande Manigat stress his right to return as a Haitian citizen under the constitution.
Manigat, a university administrator and former first lady, even said:
"President Aristide is welcome to come back and help me with education."

Konnyen la se yon zafe transpotasyon kap pale laa e nan ki peyi ke tranzit avion sa (commersyal ou prive) pral fe.
Pa gen vol direk an Afik di Sid e Ayiti.

De tout fason gouvenman Ameriken, Frans ak Kanada, Brezil pap vle ke Aristide fe transit lakay yo avan eleksyon yo.

Petet Cuba ou byen Venezuela kap voye yon avion pou al chache li e kite'l fe weekend lan lot bo a pou'l sa rantre apre eleksyon yo.

Voyaj sa kap pran 2 ou 3 jou donk an nou gade si Aristide ap an Ayiti pou eleksyon yo.
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7 Years After Ouster in U.S.-Backed Coup, Former Haitian President Aristide Prepares to Return HomeShare67
Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is preparing to return to Haiti after seven years in exile. Aristide has lived in South Africa since his ouster in a 2004 U.S.-backed coup. Reporting from Johannesburg, Democracy Now!’s Amy Goodman speaks with Aristide’s attorney Ira Kurzban and actor Danny Glover as they prepare to accompany Aristide back to his country. [includes rush transcript]

JUAN GONZALEZ: Former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is set to return to Haiti ahead of Sunday’s runoff elections. He has lived in exile in South Africa since 2004. Amy Goodman is in Johannesburg to cover Aristide’s trip. She spoke to his lawyer, Ira Kurzban, about how Aristide secured permission to return.

IRA KURZBAN: The President’s diplomatic passport, which was given to me by the government of Haiti several weeks ago, with the understanding that the President is free to come back to Haiti as a Haitian citizen whenever he wants.

AMY GOODMAN: Where did you get it?

IRA KURZBAN: I got it from the Haitian government in Port-au-Prince when I was there. And they were very cooperative.

JUAN GONZALEZ: Confidential diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks reveal extensive efforts by U.S. officials to prevent Aristide from returning to Haiti since he went into exile seven years ago.

IRA KURZBAN: The documents were basically during Condoleezza’s reign as the Secretary of State, and they were asking U.N. officials to put—and Brazilian officials, to put pressure or to somehow pressure the South African government to make sure that Aristide does not leave South Africa and that he remains there. You know, the irony of all this is, on the one hand, they were saying how unpopular—in 2004, they were saying how unpopular he was, and yet they didn’t want him in the Western hemisphere. And somehow, no one caught the irony of all that. But yeah, the documents were basically saying that the United States government was engaged in a conscious program, through the Brazilians and others, to pressure South Africa to make sure that Aristide did not come back, as I’m sure they’re under immense pressure today to try and keep him here at least until after the election.

JUAN GONZALEZ: That was Ira Kurzban, the attorney for former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. He was speaking with Amy Goodman. Amy is in Johannesburg and will be on the flight with Aristide to cover his return. She joins us now.

Welcome, Amy.

AMY GOODMAN: Hi, Juan. It’s great to be with you.

There is a lot happening right now. As you hear, a lot of interference, trying—with the U.S. government attempting to prevent the Aristides from returning, especially before Sunday, when the elections will be taking place. But as his lawyer, Ira Kurzban, says, the deal for Aristide to return was worked out with the current government, with the President, René Préval. And they are planning to return before this election, to ensure that everything that was worked out—because there has been so much difficulty over these years—does actually take place.

Meanwhile, today in Congress, the House task—the Haiti task force, a subcommittee of the Congressional Black Caucus, is holding a hearing. Among them speaking, Brian Concannon, the Institute for Justice and Democracy in Haiti, a human rights group; Nicole Lee of TransAfrica.

The election on Sunday is between Michel Martelly, who is associated with FRAP—he is the well-known singer, "Sweet Micky"—and as well, he is running against Mirlande Manigat. And the election will be very interesting, but Aristide’s return is separate from that election. Many people are awaiting his arrival in Haiti. He will be returning with his wife and his two daughters. I will be covering this trip for Democracy Now! as we cross the Atlantic. The negotiations are still taking place, as they have been for quite a long time.

This morning, Danny Glover, the actor, activist, flew in, who has long been involved with Haiti. We flew in yesterday on the longest flight, it’s believed, in the world, the longest continuous flight. But I put that question to Danny Glover.

AMY GOODMAN: Danny Glover, you just took perhaps the longest continuous flight in the world, from New York to Johannesburg.

DANNY GLOVER: Yeah.

AMY GOODMAN: Why are you here?

DANNY GLOVER: Well, I’m here to accompany my friend, President Aristide, home back to Haiti. I’m here on behalf of his family and himself. He’s a very close friend of mine. And not only that, he has been issued permission by the Haitian government to come home. He has the right to return home. And I’m here to accompany him home.

AMY GOODMAN: The State Department has issued essentially a warning that says the Aristides should not be coming home before the election. What is your response?

DANNY GLOVER: Well, first of all, President Aristide—the State Department has said essentially that President Aristide left voluntarily from Haiti seven years ago. He did not leave voluntarily. We all know that; history recounts that, what happened.

And the fact that, also, that he is going home to be of assistance in the rebuilding of Haiti, his plans to be involved in building educational institutions and hospitals, etc., is an indication that he is there to be a part of the renewal and rebuilding of Haiti. And my—certainly the State Department has its own reasons for not having him back at all, because this is the first time President Aristide would have been in the hemisphere since he was deposed seven years ago. But he is coming back to be with his people. He is coming back home with his family. So, I’m here to be a part of that journey with him.

JUAN GONZALEZ: That was Amy Goodman interviewing Danny Glover in Johannesburg. We will post the entire interview Amy had with him on our website.

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