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Message  Marc H Lun 21 Mar 2016 - 10:01

Extrait d'un papier de Richard Hetu
Journal La Presse Montréal

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Les critiques de Barack Obama voient dans cette volte-face un moment où la crédibilité des États-Unis a été minée comme rarement elle l'a été par un président. Même son ancienne secrétaire d'État Hillary Clinton n'en revenait pas à l'époque.

«Si on a dit qu'on allait frapper, il faut frapper. Il n'y a pas de choix.»
Hillary Clinton, en privé
Et que dit aujourd'hui Barack Obama au sujet de cette décision qui pourrait symboliser sa politique étrangère encore davantage que son ouverture vers Cuba ?

«Je suis très fier de ce moment», dit-il en se félicitant d'avoir évité à son pays un autre engrenage militaire. «Il y avait tout le poids des idées reçues, toute la machine de notre administration de sécurité nationale. Pour tout le monde, ma crédibilité était en jeu, la crédibilité de l'Amérique était en jeu. Et donc je savais que je paierais un prix politique en appuyant sur pause. Et le fait que j'ai été capable de me sortir de ces pressions du moment et de repenser à ce qui était dans l'intérêt de l'Amérique [...] était l'une des décisions les plus difficiles que j'ai eues à prendre. Et je crois qu'au bout du compte, c'était la bonne décision.»

Cette déclaration de Barack Obama ainsi que celle d'Hillary Clinton, se trouvent dans un article-fleuve - plus de 20 000 mots ! - publié dans le numéro courant de la revue The Atlantic sous la signature de Jeffrey Goldberg. Après une série d'entretiens avec le président et ses principaux conseillers, le journaliste y décrit le monde à travers les yeux de l'occupant de la Maison-Blanche. Le résultat est fascinant, qu'on soit d'accord ou non avec la vision du président.

Ce qui frappe d'abord, c'est le fatalisme de Barack Obama à l'égard du Moyen-Orient. Selon lui, il n'y a pas grand-chose qu'un président américain puisse faire pour améliorer la situation dans cette région. De toute façon, le Moyen-Orient n'est plus aussi crucial qu'il l'a déjà été pour les intérêts des États-Unis, à son avis. D'où son refus de s'alarmer de l'intervention de la Russie de Poutine en Syrie. Il croit que le président américain doit craindre davantage le réchauffement climatique que le groupe État islamique, et tourner son attention vers l'Asie, l'Afrique et l'Amérique latine.

Autre constat : Barack Obama cache mal son mépris pour les experts des groupes de réflexion qui, selon lui, défendent à Washington les intérêts de leurs bailleurs de fonds arabes ou pro-israéliens. Des experts qui mesureraient la crédibilité des États-Unis à sa seule capacité à larguer des bombes.

http://cyberpresse.ca/international/etats-unis/201603/21/01-4962888-le-monde-selon-obama.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_vous_suggere_4962886_article_POS2 ''


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The Obama doctrine

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
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Message  Marc H Lun 21 Mar 2016 - 10:03

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J'aimerais lire vos réactions par rapport à ce long article sur la perception du président Obama du monde . Et pensez-vous de celle de Clinton Hillary ?
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Message  Joel Lun 21 Mar 2016 - 12:10

MARC;

La politique imperiale traditionelle americaine ,les jeunes AMERICAINS n'en veulent plus.
C'est l'une des raisons que BERNIE SANDERS a eu cette campagne credible opposant HILLARY CLINTON.

Une grande portion de la population americaine ne voit pas de trop positif dans cette politique imperiale ;cette population ne voit qu'un DRAINAGE de l'Economie Americaine.

Les ETATS UNIS ont depense 3 TRILLIONS,3 MILLE MILLIARDS de DOLLARS au MOYEN ORIENT.
A QUELLE FIN?
Si OBAMA avait ecoute le LOBBY JUIF ;un LOBBY tres puissant ,les ETATS UNIS seraient en guerre avec l'IRAN;un pays avec une solide culture scientifique.

JEFFRY GOLDBERD est un JUIF ,proche des NEO-CONS.
La politique etrangere d'OBAMA n'est pas parfaite.Elle ne pourrait jamais l'etre mais OBAMA pour presque 8 ANS ne s'est engage dans aucune des aventures militaires catastrophiques dont les REPUBLICAINS ont le secret.

Les LIBERAUX DEMOCRATES AMERICAINS ne font pas confiance a HILLARY CLINTON qui est regardee comme un FAUCON.
Ils n'ont pas le choix que de voter pour elle contre ces ULTRA REACTIONNAIRES REPUBLICAINS ;mais ils sont prets a la combattre si ELUE ,elle s'engagerait dans ces AVENTURES!

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Message  Joel Mar 22 Mar 2016 - 12:07

MAK;

Yon bagay ki merite remake e ke mwen tande KOMANTATE ap mansyone.

Yo di ke se KONTRAS ant OBAMA ak CASTRO.

Se PREZIDAN sa yo rele PI GWO PWISANS sou TE an ;yon NEG NWA ak madanm ak pitit li ki manifesteman NWA,ak KONSEYE NASYONAL SEKIRITE l ,bo kote l ,yon FANM NWA.
Konpare sa ak RAOUL CASTRO ;Papa l ak MANMAN l DORIJIN EWOPEYEN ,PANYOL.

Le w gade MOUN ki ALANTOU RAOUL CASTRO yo ;preske TOUT se MOUN KLE ,lan yon peyi ke 2/3 POPILASYON an gen SAN AFRIKEN lan venn yo.

Yo di ke se gwo PWOBLEM ki ka KONFWONTE KIBA ,apre PASAJ FRE CASTRO yo ,le POPILASYON DORIJIN AFRIKEN an ,ap mande POUVWA.
Yon bagay ke yo poko jwenn ,apre plis ke 50 AN "KOMINISM"

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Message  Marc H Mar 22 Mar 2016 - 22:14

Mwen remake ke vis prezidan Castro an se yon neg afrikan kuben . Yo dim tou ke lame kiba genyen anpil haut grade afrikan Kuben
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Message  Sasaye Mar 22 Mar 2016 - 22:30


Mwen te remake e mwen tap reflechi sou sitiyasyon rasyal lan Kiba tou.
Se yon kote mwen twouve ke revolisyon kiben an pa fè anpil pwogrè.
Li vre ke atitid sosyal pran anpil tan pou yo chanje, men apre senkant an revolisyon kote Kiba pyonye lan anpll domèn, te dwe gen plis reprezantasyon nwa lan estrikti pouvwa.

Menm lan peyi ki retwograd lan rasism toujou genyen gwo pwopòsyon nwa lan lame ak lan job manyèl ak sèvis, alòske se yon grenn ou de eksepsyon ou jwen kote yon nwa gen yon gwo pòs.

Se menm bagay ki ap pase Obrezil tou.

Sou pwen sayo, Ayiti fè de pwen sou peyi Amerik di sid yo eksepte zile karayib ansyen koloni angle yo.

Si vwayaj Obama a gen yon sèl merit, se imaj ke limenm ak fanmi l prezante bay Lamerik.
Yon fanmi nwa ki alatèt yon gwo pwisans mondyal.
Bèl fanm seksi ak bèl ti jenn fi ki byen wo.
Se yon imaj ki kapab soulve konsyans ak anbisyon anpil popilasyon nwa ki konnen yap viv dèyè kamyonèt lan peyi yo.
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Mwen dako ak sa wou ekri la sou revolisyon les freres castro yo .
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Message  Marc H Mar 22 Mar 2016 - 22:54

Men opozan ke Obama t rankontre jodia an . Gade konbyen moun nwa ki ladan  ?

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Message  Joel Mer 23 Mar 2016 - 8:55

Wi ,sa merite DISKISYON.

Se rezon sa a Dr CARLOS MOORE ki te apiye REVOLISYON an ,te kase KOD ak REVOLISYON an.

Misye te pran EGZIL e misye te vin yon OPOZAN FAWOUCH,byen ke misye te mare BOSKO ak KIBEN MIYAMI yo ,ke yomenm se yon bann RASIS.

Mwen te li yon DISKOU ke FIDEL CASTRO te pwononse an 1990 ,si m sonje,lan KATEDRAL "ST JOHN THE DIVINE" lan NEW YORK.
SIPOTE CASTRO lan mitan ENTELEKTYEL AFRIKEN AMERIKEN te ap mande misye de ki prevyen ;kouman fe lan yon peyi ke 2/3 POPILASYON an gen san AFRIKEN e ke GOUVENMAN an "BLAN" kon sa.

CASTRO te reponn ke li te konprann ke apre REVOLISYON an ,li menm ak KANMARAD li yo te di "TOUT MOUN EGAL" ke li te ka EFASE 400 ZAN DISTWA.

CARLOS MOORE limenm di ke FRE CASTRO ,malgre tout sa yo t ap di pa diferan de KLAS DOMINANT BLANCH yo.
Depi yo ti KAT KAT ,yo t ap di yo ke NWA pa osi ENTELIJAN ke BLAN.

Yo di tou ke CASTRO pa t kite OBAMA pran "bain de foule" limenm ak FANMI l ,se pa t telman pou koz POLITIK ,byen ke te gen sa ,men tou se KARAKTE SIBVESIF ,FANMI NWA sa a ki alatet PI GRAN PWISANS sou TE an.



Pou KONKLI.

FULGENCIO BATISTA se te yon MILAT.Gen KLIB "EKSKLIZIF" lan LA HAVANN ki te refize AKSEPTE l kom MANM.

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Message  Joel Mer 23 Mar 2016 - 9:52



Yon let ke yon GWOUP AFRO-KIBEN te ekri OBAMA anvan VWAYAJ li lan KIBA:


President Barack Obama
The White House
​Pennsylvania 1600, Washington DC

Mr President,

Our organization, Afro Cuban Forum, is the only one among the Cuban exiles that focuses directly on race relations both in the US and in Cuba. We are a group of Cubans who live either in Cuba or abroad, of all races, ages, sexual inclinations, creeds, political views and philosophical persuasions in which the ONLY prerequisite is our distinct awareness of the dynamics and the challenges of a full racial integration.

We support ourselves with the proceeds of our membership and will negotiate contributions from private donors; we have not applied for any tax payer's funded grants.

The very fabric of AFC makes it possible for some of us to approach the change of course in the US - Cuban regime relations from many different angles; however, the dream of somehow helping the average Cuban is unanimously shared.

We understand that the sacred duty of a US president is to defend the vital interests of our great nation and monitoring a "soft landing" in the neighboring island makes perfect sense from the geopolitical standpoint. It is, thus precisely in the pursuit of those interests that the racial issue must be uppermost in dealing with the Cuban government. More than half of the island's population is of African descent according to our estimates (the accurate percentage of blacks has always been the object of utmost secrecy and manipulation) and they have been historically discriminated against and are now intentionally neglected by the Castros. They are the overwhelming majority in the penal population and very rarely enjoy the meager benefits of the wrongly called "private sector".

Black Cubans are conspicuously absent from the board meetings of state owned corporations (all corporations belong to the state), the hotel front desks and any of those positions where a dollar or two may be earned.

The aforementioned situation is the perfect formula for a social explosion once the regime inevitably loosens its grip on power. All sorts of creatures exit the dustbin once the lid is off, and THAT, merely 90 miles away, is a distinct threat to our national security.

To be more clear Mr President; the future of the Cuban people must be discussed, negotiated, or fought out among Cubans; we should not and must not expect you to bring freedom to our native island; however, it is not encouraging to realize that despite all the rhetoric of change and a new course of action the meeting behind closed doors theory persists. Mr Ben Rhodes came to Miami and met with a handful of Cubans; he was videotaped in the company of a black Cuban entertainer; which reinforces the stereotyped narrative of black Cubans being good only to entertain and run after a ball. Why not an open meeting with all of us? we regret that the sample was too small to objectively convey our views.

But we have done our part, now you know that continuing to sweep the racial problem under the rug can lead to disaster in the island and could even trigger an undesired violent outcome should we keep ignoring it. This transcends the realm of Cuba's internal affairs and is a ticking time bomb.

As the powerful tires of Air Force One regally skid on the runway at Jose Marti International Airport the world will be engaged in celebrating the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination, no contrast can be starker, no symbol can be more suitable, no challenge can be more formidable.

We remain hopeful that this missive contributes to establishing a transparent channel of communication between our government and the entirety of the Cuban American community; meanwhile allow us to wish you and your family the best in the remainder of your term as our Commander in Chief and in your life as a private citizen.

Sincerely,

Executive Committee.
AFRO CUBAN FORUM INC
269 NW 7th St. Suite 117 Miami Fl. 33136
Email: contact@afrocubanforum.org www.afrocubanforum.org

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Message  Marc H Mer 23 Mar 2016 - 21:12

Antouka Joel , Afro-Kiben yo osi edike ke lot yo . nan yon Kiba lib , mwen swete ke yap pran plas yo .
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Message  Sasaye Jeu 24 Mar 2016 - 8:23


Mak,
Yon nèg viktim prejije ak segregasyon se pa paske li pa edike, se paske gen yon gwoup ki gen lajan ak pouvwa ki kenbe kle avansman ak pwogrè pou moun ki lan gwoup yo.

Se yon refleks rasyal mele ak enterè lajan ak pouvwa.

Yo gen kontwol travay men yo pa anplwaye nèg ki pa lan gwoup yo.
Eksepte vye job yo refize fè......

Yo fè sa pou rezon sosyal kote nèg anba a pa gen chans pou l lwe kay li vle, pran fanm li vle, chwazi metye li vle.,
E si li gen kalifikasyon, yo pa rekonèt li.

Sa rive lan tout peyi sou kontinan ameriken an avèk kèk ti variasyon.
Komanse lan Kanada, rive ann Ajantin.
Si se pa kont desandan afriken, se kont aborijèn ak desandan yo.

Nou pa lite seryezman kont bagay sayo.
Si nou vle pouswiv diskisyon saa, nou ka wè ke pa gen eksepsyon.
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Message  Joel Jeu 24 Mar 2016 - 8:44

Marc H a écrit:Antouka  Joel , Afro-Kiben  yo osi edike ke lot yo . nan yon Kiba lib , mwen swete ke yap pran plas yo .

MAK;

Yon GWOUP MOUN ki jwe de seten PRIVILEJ akoz de KOULE yo ,de KAST yo ,tankou ann END ,e menm de ki TRIBI kote yo soti ;se FOSE pou w FOSE yo "give up" PRIVILEJ sa yo.
Yo pa p bay yo kon sa.

Se PWOBLEM sa yo BLAN yo pral genyen lan yon KIBA POS-KASTRIS.
Se paske NWA yo EDIKE ke yo pral we ke SITIYASYON sa a pa p ka DIRE.

KIBA te toujou gen PWOBLEM RASYAL wi.

Premyeman ,se an 1888,ke LESKLAVAY te ABOLI definitivman lan KIBA.
Le PAPA CASTRO te émigré lan KIBA soti ann ESPAY ,li te jwenn ESKLAVAY lan KIBA.
GE ENDEPANDANS KIBA a te yon GE ANTI-KOLONYALIS ak ANTI-ESKLAVAJIS.

An 1912,te gen yon GE RASYAL ,kote BLAN yo ak ED AMERIKEN yo te touye 6000 NWA!

Gen de FWA ,ou konn we yon bagay,ou ABITYE ak li,si se pa JEFO ou fe ,lan TET ou ,ou twouve NOMAL.

NEW YORK TIMES te fe remake AYE ,ke 2/3 POPILASYON KIBA a pa BLAN ,men an 2016 la a 80% POS ki pi ENPOTAN lan GOUVENMAN ,INIVESITE ,lan RECHECH ,se BLAN ki OKIPE yo.
Sa a se yon ATIK ki paret AYE lan NEW YORK TIMES ,yo eksplike byen PWOBLEM RASYAL ki kontinye EKZISTE lan KIBA.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/world/americas/obamaurges-raised-voices-incubas-husheddiscussions-ofrace.html?ref=americas




Cuba Says It Has Solved Racism. Obama Isn’t So Sure.


By DAMIEN CAVEMARCH 23, 2016


Workers painted fresh pavement in Havana on Saturday, the day before President Obama arrived in Cuba. Credit Mauricio Lima for The New York Times  

HAVANA — President Obama spoke of his Kenyan heritage. He talked about how both the United States and Cuba were built on the backs of slaves from Africa. He mentioned that not very long ago, his parents’ marriage would have been illegal in America, and he urged Cubans to respect the power of protest to bring about equality.

“We want our engagement to help lift up Cubans who are of African descent,” he said, “who have proven there’s nothing they cannot achieve when given the chance.”

Mr. Obama’s speech on Tuesday, in an ornate Spanish colonial-style hall in Havana, was not only strikingly personal. It was also an unusually direct engagement with race, a critical and unresolved issue in Cuban society that the revolution was supposed to have erased.

For many Cubans, Mr. Obama’s comments were striking for their acknowledgment of racism in both countries. They served as a reminder that their particular kinship with him — as reflected in dozens of conversations and responses to his history-making three-day visit this week — involves not just policy, but also identity.

“It’s a revolution,” said Alberto González, 44, a baker who was one of the few Afro-Cubans to attend a discussion with the president about entrepreneurship on Monday. “It’s a revolution for everyone with a background descended from Africa.”

Defensiveness has long hovered over the subject of race, in part because Fidel Castro said shortly after the revolution that racism had been solved, making the subject taboo.

The discomfort, in part, came from pride: Some of the revolution’s most visible achievements involved ending institutionalized segregation, at beach clubs, at schools and in neighborhoods where the homes of wealthy white Cubans who fled were often given to Cubans of color.

Socialized medicine and education also helped create a society more deeply shaped by interracial interactions and marriages than the United States.

And yet, Cuba is no more postracial than anywhere else. Many Afro-Cubans here and abroad have been quick to point out that the presence of Mr. Obama, the first black president of the United States, only highlights that the Cuban government does not reflect the demographics of their country.
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Tourists at Revolution Square in central Havana on Sunday. Credit Mauricio Lima for The New York Times  

On an island that is around two-thirds black and mixed race, according to a 2007 study by the Cuban economist Esteban Morales Domínguez, the civil and public leadership is about 70 percent white. He also found that most scientists, technicians and university professors, up to 80 percent in some fields, were white.

“The images of the meetings, the agreements, they’re all shameful for many black Cubans — I’m including myself in this — because it’s difficult to feel represented,” said Odette Casamayor-Cisneros, an associate professor of Latin American and Caribbean literatures and cultures at the University of Connecticut and a scholar at Harvard University.

She added that elements of Mr. Obama’s trip reflected some of the same dynamics: The Cuban-Americans traveling with the president were nearly all white, as were the Cuban officials who interacted with him on the island. Indeed, much of the audience for his speech on Tuesday was white.

In that context, the president — along with his wife, daughters and mother-in-law, who joined him on the trip — offers a clear contrast.

“What you see is confirmation of black empowerment, which has generally been denied in Cuban society,” Ms. Casamayor-Cisneros said. “For black Cubans, the mere existence of Obama is unusual and overwhelmingly symbolic.”

Some Afro-Cubans, like the hip-hop artist known as Soandry, linked the president to “what can be achieved in a capitalist system.”

Other Cubans brought up race more directly, without prompting, arguing that because Mr. Obama is African-American, he understands their country.

Mr. González, whose bakery counter is adorned with photographs of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X, said it was not just the president whom people admire. “Look at that family,” he said, smiling broadly. “Can you imagine? Have you ever seen a more beautiful family?”

The challenge, Mr. González and other Cubans said, is turning that inspiration into something substantial, starting with a more open conversation about race.

“There is definitely still racism here,” said Mr. González, who lived in Italy for more than a decade before returning to open a business. “I see it often, in how people look at me and treat me.”
ong Cubans of all races, there is growing concern about a widening economic divide that is also racial.

Many Cuban scholars have noted that old forces are again at work. As tourism has grown and become more lucrative — a day’s tips can surpass a month’s pay from the government — the staffs of hotels and restaurants have become less representative. President Raúl Castro’s minor economic opening, allowing for small businesses in Cuba, has also tended to favor those who already have links to power in government, or relatives abroad — a growing elite that is disproportionately white.




At times, the racism has been explicit. Yusimí Rodríguez López, an Afro-Cuban independent journalist, said there were job listings on Revolico — sometimes called Cuba’s underground Craigslist — “where they say they only want whites.”

What is frustrating, she added, is that Cuban officials have little interest in discussing the issue, or listening. “If you silence the idea that there’s racism,” she said, “you silence every conversation about the problem.”

That is what made Mr. Obama’s comments stand out. By emphasizing that people who challenged the government changed the United States — “When I first started school, we were still struggling to desegregate schools across the American South,” he said — Mr. Obama’s comments, and sincerity, instilled in many Cubans a new hope and offered a knowing vote of confidence.

Before he arrived, race was increasingly on Cuban minds. Before he departed, new boundaries were already being pushed, among Afro-Cuban intellectuals here, among business owners and even at the so-called Esquina Caliente, or hot corner, a shady spot in a crowded Havana park where men gather every day, all day, to talk sports.

“They talk a lot here about discrimination against blacks in the United States. What about here?” said Manuel Valier Figueroa, 50, an actor, who was in the park on Monday. “If there’s a dance competition, they’re going to choose the woman who is fair-skinned with light, good hair. If there’s a tourism job, the same.”

He added: “Why are there no blacks managing hotels? You don’t see any blacks working as chefs in hotels, but you see them as janitors and porters. They get the inferior jobs.”

Mr. Valier, who is black, insisted that he and the others did not care anymore if anyone from the government was listening to them talk critically about their society.

“The first black president showed that a black person can lead,” he said. “Here, blacks need to see that the same thing can happen.”




Frances Robles and Hannah Berkeley Cohen contributed reporting.

A version of this article appears in print on March 24, 2016, on page A1 of the New York edition with the headline: Obama Looks Past Cuba’s Post-Racial Veneer . Order Reprints| Today's Paper|Subscribe  
 

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Yon nèg viktim prejije ak segregasyon se pa paske li pa edike, se paske gen yon gwoup ki gen lajan ak pouvwa ki kenbe kle avansman ak pwogrè pou moun ki lan gwoup yo. a écrit:

Sasaye ,

Mesi pou patisipasyon w nan deba an . Pèmet m rektifye pou di ke mwen pa di ke moun ki edike pa sibi rasis . Mwen tap pale de nivo edikasyon ki nan kiba ke afriken Cuba yo benefisye tou . Mwen kwe, tankou Joel di a ki bagay yo pap pase konsa anko nan yon Kiba lib . O nivo politik notammeny nwa yo ka jwe des wol enpotan avek majorite sa yo konstitye nan peyi an .
Mèsi anpil pou atansyon n
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Message  Sasaye Ven 25 Mar 2016 - 21:55


Mak,
Mwen pa di se sa w enplike.
Mwen vle di ke rasism se yon reflèks ak yon atitid sosyoekonomik.
Lan sosyete ki pa omojènn, youn lan gwoup ki rasanble pouvwa ekonomik mete yon sistèm ki kontwole rès popilasyon an lan sa yo kapab fè e sa yo kapab akeri.
Konsa yo vinn kreye yon gwoup dominan e yon lòt gwoup domine.

Sa kòmanse ann Ewòp, apre sa yo travèse fwontyè pou yo kolonize lot pèp pou yo anrichi sosyete yo avèk menm sistèm nan.

Ann Amerik, desandan gwoup ewopeyen yo, kontinye pratik saa kont desandan afriken e kont aborijenn yo jwenn sou kontinan an.

Desandan gwoup domine yo fè anpli rezistans pou reduy dominans lan, men yo poko finn libere tèt yo. Sepandan yo reyisi fè pwogrè, edike tèt yo ak pitit yo, fòme asosyasyon pou defann dwa yo.

Men gwoup dominan an pa bay legen paske yon kontwole ekonomi ki bay travay, ki pèmèt achete byen ak sèvis, ale lekòl, pwomosyon sosyal, etc...
Yo bloke opòtinite pou domine yo.
Si youn gen kalifikasyon, yo pa bali yon pòs kote li gen pouvwa.
Genyen yon plafon lan anplwa e lan avansman sosyal.

Sa kontinye fèt depi Kanada, rive jis ann Ajantinn.
Se la dènye dis ane yo ke yon nèg reyisi vinn prezidan Ozetazini.
E si gen pwogrè ki fèt lan peyi saa, plafon an anplas toujou e pou minorite e pou fanm.

An rezime, pwoblèm kiben nwa, se menm pwoblèm ak tout lòt nwa ak aborijenn sou kontinan an.
Se rezilta istorik kolonizasyon ak rasis desandan ewopeyen.
Mesye Kastwo yo pa ankouraje rasis e se pa paske Kiba pa lib.
Se anpil kanpay enfòmasyon ak endoktrinasyon ki pou chanje diskriminasyon rasyal dan le monn antye.
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Message  Marc H Sam 26 Mar 2016 - 12:16

Barack Obama à Cuba: un Noir au pays des préjugés raciaux


Marqué par son passé colonial et esclavagiste, la société cubaine est encore empreintes de préjugés raciaux, quoi qu'en dise le régime castriste qui est... presque entièrement blanc.

Qu'un président américain foule le sol cubain pour la première fois depuis 1928 constitue en soi un évènement. Mais le fait que Barack Obama soit afro-américain est d'autant plus remarquable: le locataire de la Maison-Blanche visite en effet, du 20 au 22 mars, un pays, certes métissé mais presque exclusivement dirigé par une élite blanche depuis le début de la révolution.

http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/monde/amerique-nord/barack-obama-a-cuba-un-noir-au-pays-des-prejuges-raciaux_1775398.html#azWKfT4ly0lLxBpg.01
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Message  Joel Sam 26 Mar 2016 - 13:01

Mwen toujou mefye m de sa ki ap ekri lan gwo JOUNAL ak REVI FRANSE yo ;pou yon FWA sa LEXPRESS ap di yo se sa.

Wi ,gen AYISYEN ki pa janm rann yo kont ke se an 1886 LESKLAVAY te ABOLI lan KIBA;le sa a se SALOMON ki te sou pouvwa a ,ann AYITI.

Yon lot bagay ,se NWA lan KIBA ki te fe LESPAY aboli LESKLAVAY lan KIBA e pitou te fe GE ENDEPANDANS lan.
Plis ke 90% NEG ki t ap goumen pou ENDEPANDANS KIBA a ,se te NWA lan LAME MANBI an.

JOSE MARTI ,se te plis yon TEYORISYEN ,men JENERAL LAME sa a ,se te 2 NWA ,MACEO ak QUINTIN BANDERAS.

QUINTIN BANDERAS ki te yon OUGAN ,se te TAKTISYEN LAME MANBI an.

QUINTIN BANDERAS se te yon NEG NWA kou LANK.

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Message  Marc H Sam 26 Mar 2016 - 14:50

Joel a écrit:Mwen toujou mefye m de sa ki ap ekri lan gwo JOUNAL ak REVI FRANSE yo ;pou yon FWA sa LEXPRESS ap di yo se sa.

Wi ,gen AYISYEN ki pa janm rann yo kont ke se an 1886 LESKLAVAY te ABOLI lan KIBA;le sa a se SALOMON ki te sou pouvwa a ,ann AYITI.

Yon lot bagay ,se NWA lan KIBA ki te fe LESPAY aboli LESKLAVAY lan KIBA e pitou te fe GE ENDEPANDANS lan.
Plis ke 90% NEG ki t ap goumen pou ENDEPANDANS KIBA a ,se te NWA lan LAME MANBI an.

JOSE MARTI ,se te plis yon TEYORISYEN ,men JENERAL LAME sa a ,se te 2 NWA ,MACEO ak QUINTIN BANDERAS.

QUINTIN BANDERAS ki te yon OUGAN ,se te TAKTISYEN LAME MANBI an.

QUINTIN BANDERAS se te yon NEG NWA kou LANK.  


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se sa wi . Se pousa mwen renmen li sa wap ekri yo Joel . Wou fe bon jan analis sur le plan istorik . Mèsi anpil

Mwen t konn ap tande yon istorien kebekwa nan radio kanada le samedi ak dimanche maten . Misye t pale de la guerre de l'endependans Kiba an . Misye t di sa wou di de nwa yo t yon pilye nan gè sa . Misye di tou ke Blan t oblije travay ak nwa pou ka gagne gè sa .

Se pou rezon sa mwen di ke nan yon Kiba lib apre Kastro . Afriken Kiben dwe pran plas yo . Yo genyen fos pou sa .
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Message  Joel Sam 26 Mar 2016 - 17:23

MAK;

Pi gwo Jeneral lan LAME ki te fe GE ENDEPANDANS lan lan KIBA ,se te NWA.

Pou yon BLAN te OFISYE lan LAME sa a ,ki te vin gen 80000 (katre ven MIL) SOLDA,se pou l te INISYE lan SOSYETE SEKRE DORIJIN AFRIKEN yo.

MACEO,BANDERAS,SURIN elt..

Le LAME MANBI an te fin genyen GE an ,yo te koupe KIBA an 2,yo te SANTA CLARA y ap mache sou LA HAVANE ,BLAN KIBEN yo pran LA PEREZ ,yo rele AMERIKEN vin pote SEKOU.

AMERIKEN yo tou pwofite deklare LESPAY LA GE e VOLO VIKTWA a lan men KIBEN DORIJIN AFRIKEN yo!


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