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The following was transferred to me
by a friend:
“People
give Credits to Duvalier he doesn't deserve. They seem to think that things
were better in the old days, but they do not realize that Haiti has been in an
economic decline for decades, it’s just the rate of decline nowadays is much
steeper due to the population growth. Facts about Haiti:
1. The exchange rate of 5 gourdes for 1 US dollar under Duvalier has nothing to
do with Duvalier himself; the exchange rate was fixed by the Americans during
the occupation in 1919 in order to determine how much money to loan Haiti to
pay off french debts, and other claims against the Haitian government.
2. If we had electricity 24/7 in parts of Port-au-Prince ( the province
were always ignored by the executives) we must thank president Magloire
who
had the vision for the Peligre Dam to irrigate the Artibonite Valley
since
early 1950's.
3. Ciment d'Haiti, a french investment and Minoterie opened up under Magloire
as his administration tried in vain to attract significant foreign investments
to Haiti.
4. HASCO (Haitian American Sugar Company) has nothing to do with Duvalier;
HASCO is a spinoff of the National Railroad Company that never was - start
date/year 1911
5. Certainly, Port-au-Prince is burried under its own garbage
nowadays.The metropolitan area was not as bad as it is today but most
Haitians never saw
all of Port-au-Prince and its surrounding shanty towns such as,
Pelerin, Sans Fil, St.
Martin, la Saline, Fort National Bel Air etc.....were always as bad
under Duvalier as they are
today. Nowadays There are more bidonvilles such as Cite Soleil with an
estimated population of 300 thousand people etc. Besides, the
Port-au-Prince service d'hygiene was instituted by President Sudre
Dartiguenave. From an economic perspective, one cannot do comparison
across
historical time and space. You can only do parallel between different
administrations and regimes.Haiti has been and is in a "perpetual
decline!” It was declining under
Duvalier as well as presently; it's just that the rate of decline
nowadays is
steeper.”
It's in freefall basically. So please
let's not get nostalgic about the Duvalier era and keep glorifying a paranoid, and megalomaniac killer who is responsible for the death of an estimated 50,000 thousand of
Haitians. The facts are clear, the population of Haiti was at 6million people
during the Duvalier era, and nowadays it’s at 9.5million. There has been a boom
in the illicit drug trade in Port-au-Prince and lately Port-de-Paix which
resulted in an excess amount of criminals and addicts, who have been preying on the Haitian population. Furthermore,
the United States has been returning planes loaded with criminals which
resulted in Haiti having an excess amount of criminals from all walks of life. Haitians
should try to rebuild their country instead for a better tomorrow. The new generation of
Haitians wish to forget that a monster like Duvalier existed. Only the thieves and criminals who profited
during the era of Duvalier wish to continue to glorify him. They all suffer from selective
amnesia.
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facts About Duvalier
Francois
Duvalier Francois was Born in Port-au-Prince,
he was the illegitimate son of Duval Duvalier, a justice of the peace,
and Ulyssia Abraham, a mentally unstable woman who worked in a bakery.. She lived
in an asylum until she died in 1921. Largely raised by an aunt, Francois Duvalier
completed a degree in medicine from the University of Haiti in 1934. On
May 24, 1959, "Papa Doc" Duvalier
suffered a massive heart attack, possibly as a result of a subsequent
insulin
overdose. He had been a diabetic since early adulthood and also
suffered from
heart disease and associated circulatory problems. During this heart
attack he
was unconscious for nine hours; many associates believed that he
suffered
neurological damage during those hours which affected his mental
health, for he became paranoid and irrational afterward. Numerous
psychological researches have proven
that some mental illnesses are hereditary. In fact, Duvalier's mother Ulyssia was mentally ill
and she died in an asylum.
Francois
Duvalier Francois was Born in Port-au-Prince,
he was the illegitimate son of Duval Duvalier, a justice of the peace,
and Ulyssia Abraham, a mentally unstable woman who worked in a bakery.. She lived
in an asylum until she died in 1921. Largely raised by an aunt, Francois Duvalier
completed a degree in medicine from the University of Haiti in 1934. On
May 24, 1959, "Papa Doc" Duvalier
suffered a massive heart attack, possibly as a result of a subsequent
insulin
overdose. He had been a diabetic since early adulthood and also
suffered from
heart disease and associated circulatory problems. During this heart
attack he
was unconscious for nine hours; many associates believed that he
suffered
neurological damage during those hours which affected his mental
health, for he became paranoid and irrational afterward. Numerous
psychological researches have proven
that some mental illnesses are hereditary. In fact, Duvalier's mother Ulyssia was mentally ill
and she died in an asylum.
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Re: pou DEZA,MARC HENRY,DILIBON,THUNDER
Haiti was truly the pearl of the antilles. The pearl started to
lose its shine under Duvalier. Because Duvalier did absolutely nothing
to maintain that shine, 20yrs after he left there is no sign of a
pearl. Thus it's easy to blame the ones carrying the banner now.
Surely they have not done much to distinguish themselves but there is
no need to be nostalgic about the Duvalier days, not if you truly love
Haiti.Are we now to accept the least bad? Duvalier found a country that
was developing and made many stride forward under the previous 5
leaders, he stopped all progress by destroying the education system,
while taking credit for what was done before him. The only thing that
was important to Duvalier (father) was the power, he brilliantly
believed by destroying education he would create generations of idiots
who would know better than to say "vive papa doc" when he steals their
dollars and throw them some gourdes. Fortunately for Haiti, Duvalier
(son) was the head idiot in charge, he came out dumb, stupid,
illeterate and ignorant as his father had wished for you and me.
I am still hopely that the Haiti I dream of when I see Santo
Domingo, Trinidad, Jamaica, Bahamas, Portorico, etc... we are just as
smart and hard working, we need our Mandela, or Castro or even Leonel
Fernandez to care about haiti more than himself
lose its shine under Duvalier. Because Duvalier did absolutely nothing
to maintain that shine, 20yrs after he left there is no sign of a
pearl. Thus it's easy to blame the ones carrying the banner now.
Surely they have not done much to distinguish themselves but there is
no need to be nostalgic about the Duvalier days, not if you truly love
Haiti.Are we now to accept the least bad? Duvalier found a country that
was developing and made many stride forward under the previous 5
leaders, he stopped all progress by destroying the education system,
while taking credit for what was done before him. The only thing that
was important to Duvalier (father) was the power, he brilliantly
believed by destroying education he would create generations of idiots
who would know better than to say "vive papa doc" when he steals their
dollars and throw them some gourdes. Fortunately for Haiti, Duvalier
(son) was the head idiot in charge, he came out dumb, stupid,
illeterate and ignorant as his father had wished for you and me.
I am still hopely that the Haiti I dream of when I see Santo
Domingo, Trinidad, Jamaica, Bahamas, Portorico, etc... we are just as
smart and hard working, we need our Mandela, or Castro or even Leonel
Fernandez to care about haiti more than himself
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Re: pou DEZA,MARC HENRY,DILIBON,THUNDER
pipo,
Se panou ki tap mande mett dilibon souss li apew ke li te ekri min sa yon lot moun ekri a ?
Bagay paou la se pwopagan nett .Kote w jwen ak mantra lavalass sa a . Plak la kole ? Pwose sa a manke rigueur pou nou ta fe agiman li yo passe kom analiz ak jijman serye .
Mwin pa pwal lwin lan afe ke ti mesye goshiss lavalass tett anba nou yo pa vle pwan responsabilite yo pou kanson yo ke yo finn desan lan peyi a paske yo vole yo sott yo ansasin . Gade statistik developman ekonomik sou Jean-Claude Duvalier ,gade indiss yo pou dim ke lavalass se pa yon rejim destrikteu inkonpetan ke li ye . Gade prets et dons sou papa Dok pou dim ke misye sepa yon ero li ye pou li finn fe toutsan sa a e li fe pliss passe ni Aristid ni Preval ak tisa ke li tegin lan min li a.
Avoka di dyab w paka defan koz sa a .Nou kinbe ansasin an binyen ak san viktim li ak tout kouto li lan min li .Non li se lavalass -lespwalavalass.Menm sansal yo kap krze peyi - incrementally - a depi vintan.
Se panou ki tap mande mett dilibon souss li apew ke li te ekri min sa yon lot moun ekri a ?
Bagay paou la se pwopagan nett .Kote w jwen ak mantra lavalass sa a . Plak la kole ? Pwose sa a manke rigueur pou nou ta fe agiman li yo passe kom analiz ak jijman serye .
Mwin pa pwal lwin lan afe ke ti mesye goshiss lavalass tett anba nou yo pa vle pwan responsabilite yo pou kanson yo ke yo finn desan lan peyi a paske yo vole yo sott yo ansasin . Gade statistik developman ekonomik sou Jean-Claude Duvalier ,gade indiss yo pou dim ke lavalass se pa yon rejim destrikteu inkonpetan ke li ye . Gade prets et dons sou papa Dok pou dim ke misye sepa yon ero li ye pou li finn fe toutsan sa a e li fe pliss passe ni Aristid ni Preval ak tisa ke li tegin lan min li a.
Avoka di dyab w paka defan koz sa a .Nou kinbe ansasin an binyen ak san viktim li ak tout kouto li lan min li .Non li se lavalass -lespwalavalass.Menm sansal yo kap krze peyi - incrementally - a depi vintan.
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<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">Re: Papa Doc's "Je Jure devant Dieu devant la Nation"
Mr. Charles wrote:
Oh Please, I am so, so, so tired of people telling how beautiful Haiti was under Duvalier. I don't know they are choosing to be ignorant, lying to themselves or just too upset about the Haiti of today to state the truth. I am 47yrs old, no one is going to tell me how Haiti was I saw it……….. Fortunately for Haiti, Duvalier (son) was the head idiot in charge, he came out dumb, stupid, illeterate and ignorant as his father had wished for you and me.
Mr. Joel N. Charles
I you are 47 years old, I don’t know where did you grew up in Haiti for not acknowledging its beauty at that time. For your sake of knowledge let me tell you that when Duvalier came in power in 1957, the state had practically no money. Everything that was done in Haiti under that regime did start from scratch. For instance, Grand’rue to Leogane in concrete cement, International airport, route Nord and Sud etc… If you came from the south, you would have known that it took at least a day or two to get from Port-au-Prince to les Cayes. When it comes to civic and academic education, and tourism, the country was at its best time. Just look at what we produce today compare to yesterday. A difference in our culture and other country is fascinating and difficult to comprehend the logic behind our reasoning. For instance, the booming of technology for internet services, telephone cellular and communication in general took place in the late 80’s and early 90’s, which is what gave a big boost to the American economy. However, everyone attribute that economic boom to the Clinton era. Why, in our country we do not give credit to any government no matter what has been done under their regime or time. We always seen only the bad aspect of the government. As you said “Please” wake up and do a better assessment of the country when you were growing up. I am giving you only a very little portion of accomplishment of the regime without exception of many others. Why have they changed the name of the airport?” Total Ignorance”. Also, Look at the Duvalier Constitution other than the A Vie part, it was something marvelous. The Code du travail Francois Duvalier was something exceptional.
Il me faudrait ecrire tout un livre pour faire des enumerations de progres. Don’t take me wrong, in my view it still was not enough, but I am not going to deny these accomplishments. Please, stop repeating farce and do a better research. As the American
says: “you don’t have to know, but have the ability to find out”: Duvalier had giving us that possibility. Although everyone did not have that opportunity, it was there.
If we knew what that pledge “Je Jure” meant for our country, everyone should continue to say it every morning, nevertheless it was Duvalier pledge or not. I strongly believe that Duvalier Pledge had a big effect to our society and continue to have it on those who did comprehend well enough what they were saying. This is for our country.
Rahoul Dupervil
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Mr. Charles wrote:
Oh Please, I am so, so, so tired of people telling how beautiful Haiti was under Duvalier. I don't know they are choosing to be ignorant, lying to themselves or just too upset about the Haiti of today to state the truth. I am 47yrs old, no one is going to tell me how Haiti was I saw it……….. Fortunately for Haiti, Duvalier (son) was the head idiot in charge, he came out dumb, stupid, illeterate and ignorant as his father had wished for you and me.
Mr. Joel N. Charles
I you are 47 years old, I don’t know where did you grew up in Haiti for not acknowledging its beauty at that time. For your sake of knowledge let me tell you that when Duvalier came in power in 1957, the state had practically no money. Everything that was done in Haiti under that regime did start from scratch. For instance, Grand’rue to Leogane in concrete cement, International airport, route Nord and Sud etc… If you came from the south, you would have known that it took at least a day or two to get from Port-au-Prince to les Cayes. When it comes to civic and academic education, and tourism, the country was at its best time. Just look at what we produce today compare to yesterday. A difference in our culture and other country is fascinating and difficult to comprehend the logic behind our reasoning. For instance, the booming of technology for internet services, telephone cellular and communication in general took place in the late 80’s and early 90’s, which is what gave a big boost to the American economy. However, everyone attribute that economic boom to the Clinton era. Why, in our country we do not give credit to any government no matter what has been done under their regime or time. We always seen only the bad aspect of the government. As you said “Please” wake up and do a better assessment of the country when you were growing up. I am giving you only a very little portion of accomplishment of the regime without exception of many others. Why have they changed the name of the airport?” Total Ignorance”. Also, Look at the Duvalier Constitution other than the A Vie part, it was something marvelous. The Code du travail Francois Duvalier was something exceptional.
Il me faudrait ecrire tout un livre pour faire des enumerations de progres. Don’t take me wrong, in my view it still was not enough, but I am not going to deny these accomplishments. Please, stop repeating farce and do a better research. As the American
says: “you don’t have to know, but have the ability to find out”: Duvalier had giving us that possibility. Although everyone did not have that opportunity, it was there.
If we knew what that pledge “Je Jure” meant for our country, everyone should continue to say it every morning, nevertheless it was Duvalier pledge or not. I strongly believe that Duvalier Pledge had a big effect to our society and continue to have it on those who did comprehend well enough what they were saying. This is for our country.
Rahoul Dupervil
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Mwen pat viv Francois Duvalier, mwen apènn te viv Jean-Claude. Men, mwen genyen kèk souvni kanmenm. Mwen sonje ke sou Jean-Claude, Site Simòn te pli modèn nan nivo enfrakstrikti ke pi fò vil nan peyi a. Te genyen sistèm drenaj ki te ranpli wòl yo byen, te genyen tiyo dlo nan kay moun ki te konn peye CAMEP, te genyen Telefòn TELECO, wout te asfalte oubyen adokine, te genyen, sinema, magazen leta ak prive, te genyen ponp gaz, night Club, te genyen clinik doktè prive, dentist prive, Moun klas mwayèn ki sòti lòt kote te konn vinn pran swen ak akouche pitit nan Lopital Ste. Catherine Laboure, sa vle di ke moun wou pa ta panse, te fèt nan Site a. Biznis t ap mache byen.
Anplis de sa, si yon moun te grangou a 2 zè di maten, li te ka senpleman soti al achte sa li bezwen san pwoblèm. Pòt kay te konn rete ouvè menm lannwit. Pagay sa yo te rete jis nan fen ane 80 yo konsa.
E dapre sa ke mwen tande, Ayiti te youn nan peyi ki nan zòn nan ki te pli avanse teknolojikman. Pa ekzanp, Tele-Haiti ki te pioneer nan zafè kapte imaj pa satelit nan zòn nan.
Wi! te toujou genyen moun ki nan mizè, men pa nan eta ke 20 dènye ane apre Duvalier yo. Ayiti te konn fè jefò.
Wi, vinn genyen plis moun pandan tan sa a. Sa pa yon eskiz valab paske mwen si ke Duvalier pa jwenn peyi a ak 6 milyon moun ladann an 1957 nonpli.
Anplis de sa, si yon moun te grangou a 2 zè di maten, li te ka senpleman soti al achte sa li bezwen san pwoblèm. Pòt kay te konn rete ouvè menm lannwit. Pagay sa yo te rete jis nan fen ane 80 yo konsa.
E dapre sa ke mwen tande, Ayiti te youn nan peyi ki nan zòn nan ki te pli avanse teknolojikman. Pa ekzanp, Tele-Haiti ki te pioneer nan zafè kapte imaj pa satelit nan zòn nan.
Wi! te toujou genyen moun ki nan mizè, men pa nan eta ke 20 dènye ane apre Duvalier yo. Ayiti te konn fè jefò.
Wi, vinn genyen plis moun pandan tan sa a. Sa pa yon eskiz valab paske mwen si ke Duvalier pa jwenn peyi a ak 6 milyon moun ladann an 1957 nonpli.
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M'ap tande yon bri kom kwa yo pwal bloke lavalas lan eleksyon yo paske Aristid entevni tro ta. Nou gen tande pou nou tande. Si se ta vre nouvel sa a, pa gen anyen ki etonan. Enmi peyi a pase vi'l ap grate tet li pou li jwenn preteks ak mwayen pou fè lavalas disparèt. Le e byen gade se Aristid ki ap fè visye yo tranble konsa wi. Neg ap di ke te gen plis lajan ki te prete sou Duvalier ke sou Aristid ak Preval. Si se yon kontatasyon, sa pa vle di ke se yon agiman pou kondane gouvenman sa yo. Pou ki sa yo blye vit ke tout lajan ki te bay ou prete sou Divalye yo se pou neg te ka volè alos ke yo te femen valv koripsyon a paske Aristid te vle met lekol lan peyi a. Rayi chyen manyè di danl blanch.
Yap pale de M. Montas ke Preval vle lage lan fal nou. Mwen pa finn kwè ke manmzel ta enterese lan pouvwa an ayiti dotan pli ke yo pa janm fè eklesisman (ofisyel) sou lanmo mari li. Men nou deja wè sa plizyè fwa lan anpil lot peyi. Yo asasinen fanmi w, mari w, madanm w apre yo ba w yon gwo job minis sekrete ou prezidan pou yo ka femen bouch w. Se sa tou mwen te konprann lè mte tande ke M. montas te nome sekretè Bannkimoun. Se ta yon desepsyon, se ta ta trayi memwa mari'l si l ta foure ko li lan politik Ayiti pou l ta devni prezidan. Menm si mwen di sa, mwen pa kwe tout bon ke manmzel gen entansyon konsa. Gen dwa se bri kouri tankou yo toujou ap fè divèsyon.
Nou refize konprann ki es ki enmi peyi a. Si yo te vle w devlope yo pa ta toujou ap anpeche lot peyi vin ede w. Pou ki sa yo antrave entansyon Chavez pou li ta ede nou konstrui aewopo. Pou ki sa enperyalis yo se yon eta polisye yo vle pou Ayiti ye. Se pa paske te gen de twa izin soutretans lan peyi a ki fè nou te avanse teknolojikman.
Yap pale de M. Montas ke Preval vle lage lan fal nou. Mwen pa finn kwè ke manmzel ta enterese lan pouvwa an ayiti dotan pli ke yo pa janm fè eklesisman (ofisyel) sou lanmo mari li. Men nou deja wè sa plizyè fwa lan anpil lot peyi. Yo asasinen fanmi w, mari w, madanm w apre yo ba w yon gwo job minis sekrete ou prezidan pou yo ka femen bouch w. Se sa tou mwen te konprann lè mte tande ke M. montas te nome sekretè Bannkimoun. Se ta yon desepsyon, se ta ta trayi memwa mari'l si l ta foure ko li lan politik Ayiti pou l ta devni prezidan. Menm si mwen di sa, mwen pa kwe tout bon ke manmzel gen entansyon konsa. Gen dwa se bri kouri tankou yo toujou ap fè divèsyon.
Nou refize konprann ki es ki enmi peyi a. Si yo te vle w devlope yo pa ta toujou ap anpeche lot peyi vin ede w. Pou ki sa yo antrave entansyon Chavez pou li ta ede nou konstrui aewopo. Pou ki sa enperyalis yo se yon eta polisye yo vle pou Ayiti ye. Se pa paske te gen de twa izin soutretans lan peyi a ki fè nou te avanse teknolojikman.
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Bay moun tèt yo tande Pierre.
Bay moun tèt yo tande Pierre.
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Pierre sonne le clairon de Poupourikkko avec une rage furieuse! Pierre tu es pierre et sur ta face horizontale je vais faire .... !
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Se pa paske te gen de twa izin soutretans lan peyi a ki fè nou te avanse teknolojikman.
Vle ou pa, Ayiti pat nan eta katastrofik ke nou ap viv jounen jodi a. Si se vre ke nou se youn nan ti peyi nan zòn nan ki te konn kapte imaj pa satelit anvan rès yo, fòk wou genyen kouraj pou di ke nou se pyonye nan zòn nan, nan zouti teknolojik sa a.
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Thunder,
Sou Divalye se nou ki te pwemye ak teknoloji statation terrienne lan karayib la .Kominikasyon telefonik nou pat kanmarad Sindoming .Aewopo Francois Divalye se li kii te pi gwo lan karayib la . Air kondysyone te mache byen lan aewopo sa a e twalett yo pat santi pipi ni matye fekal .Se lavalass pou nou te tan pou nou fe pwogre sa a paske yo pa konsa ki rele ijyen ak move zodeu .
Epi sou Jean Claude Divalye gan yon tan le goud nou an te vinn fo e nou te bezin mwinss ke sink goud pou nou fe yon dola merikin .Taux d'echanj pat kon bay mal tett lap bay jodya ,Tout bagay sayo vle di yon bagay : Peyi a tap mache pi byen.-Kidonk sepou nou di messi blan ak trett lavalass yo ki fe peyi a fe bak 100 lanne.Yo pagin eskiz .
Si papa dok tegin mwayen lavalass yo te ginyen le yo te pwan pouvwa peyi dayiti te lwin deja menmsi w tande tegin vole .Neg yo tegin yon tu konsyanss peyi .Yo konen see ayisyen ke yo te ye e ke yo pat zulu.
Sou Divalye se nou ki te pwemye ak teknoloji statation terrienne lan karayib la .Kominikasyon telefonik nou pat kanmarad Sindoming .Aewopo Francois Divalye se li kii te pi gwo lan karayib la . Air kondysyone te mache byen lan aewopo sa a e twalett yo pat santi pipi ni matye fekal .Se lavalass pou nou te tan pou nou fe pwogre sa a paske yo pa konsa ki rele ijyen ak move zodeu .
Epi sou Jean Claude Divalye gan yon tan le goud nou an te vinn fo e nou te bezin mwinss ke sink goud pou nou fe yon dola merikin .Taux d'echanj pat kon bay mal tett lap bay jodya ,Tout bagay sayo vle di yon bagay : Peyi a tap mache pi byen.-Kidonk sepou nou di messi blan ak trett lavalass yo ki fe peyi a fe bak 100 lanne.Yo pagin eskiz .
Si papa dok tegin mwayen lavalass yo te ginyen le yo te pwan pouvwa peyi dayiti te lwin deja menmsi w tande tegin vole .Neg yo tegin yon tu konsyanss peyi .Yo konen see ayisyen ke yo te ye e ke yo pat zulu.
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deza a écrit:Thunder,
Sou Divalye se nou ki te pwemye ak teknoloji statation terrienne lan karayib la .Kominikasyon telefonik nou pat kanmarad Sindoming .Aewopo Francois Divalye se li kii te pi gwo lan karayib la . Air kondysyone te mache byen lan aewopo sa a e twalett yo pat santi pipi ni matye fekal .Se lavalass pou nou te tan pou nou fe pwogre sa a paske yo pa konsa ki rele ijyen ak move zodeu .
Epi sou Jean Claude Divalye gan yon tan le goud nou an te vinn fo e nou te bezin mwinss ke sink goud pou nou fe yon dola merikin .Taux d'echanj pat kon bay mal tett lap bay jodya ,Tout bagay sayo vle di yon bagay : Peyi a tap mache pi byen.-Kidonk sepou nou di messi blan ak trett lavalass yo ki fe peyi a fe bak 100 lanne.Yo pagin eskiz .
Si papa dok tegin mwayen lavalass yo te ginyen le yo te pwan pouvwa peyi dayiti te lwin deja menmsi w tande tegin vole .Neg yo tegin yon tu konsyanss peyi .Yo konen see ayisyen ke yo te ye e ke yo pat zulu.
Deza,
Mèsi pou presizyon sa yo.
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WIFOUT a lavalas
Sou J C Duvalier pa guinyen yun pwodwi Haiti pat fes pase pa pwodwi alimentes, filatu, electrik, pafun, soulie ,pvc, kod pit ,cafe huile ,manteg, sik,bes,si mwen blie yun di li map di ou ki fanmy ki te fes li lavalas kraze tout ou kraze moun yo.
Sou J C Duvalier pa guinyen yun pwodwi Haiti pat fes pase pa pwodwi alimentes, filatu, electrik, pafun, soulie ,pvc, kod pit ,cafe huile ,manteg, sik,bes,si mwen blie yun di li map di ou ki fanmy ki te fes li lavalas kraze tout ou kraze moun yo.
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Thunder a écrit:Se pa paske te gen de twa izin soutretans lan peyi a ki fè nou te avanse teknolojikman.
Vle ou pa, Ayiti pat nan eta katastrofik ke nou ap viv jounen jodi a. Si se vre ke nou se youn nan ti peyi nan zòn nan ki te konn kapte imaj pa satelit anvan rès yo, fòk wou genyen kouraj pou di ke nou se pyonye nan zòn nan, nan zouti teknolojik sa a.
Se Jean-Claude ki te mete antèn parabolik la. Map sonje tankou jodi a, mwen pat menm ka gade televizyon lan provens mwen te konprann ki sa sa te pemet. Alo w wè, se te plis yon kestyon biznis men sa pat pemet ke tout repiblik la te profite de sa. Se menm jan tou Jean-Claude te met lajan pou projè Munich la. Rayi chyen di danl blanch sof ke sa vinn sanble ak yon realizasyon pesonèl. Men mwen ta renmen konen pouki sa se sou menm prezidan sa yo tout jefo sa yo te komanse tonbe an dekrepitid. Se sa yo rele de la poudre aux yeux. Tankou yo di, gouvenman sa yo se pran dola w, dola m e pi yo lage goud lan men nou mesye. Ayiti pat lan menm eta li ye jodi a men tankou map di se te yon abse ki pete. Peyi a te deja atè sof ke te gen tout mekanism pou kache peche yo. Gen epoch mwen regret se paske mwen te plis grandi lakay mwen an provens. Men lè mwen te al viv de twa jou PAP mwen te deja sezi. E pi tou se pa Duvalye mwen jis ap di ki te move non. Sa mwen pa dakor se lage responsabilite mize peyi a sou yon denye gouvenman yo alos ke nou konen tre byen ke sa pa vre di tou.
WIFOUT a lavalas
Sou J C Duvalier pa guinyen yun pwodwi Haiti pat fes pase pa pwodwi alimentes, filatu, electrik, pafun, soulie ,pvc, kod pit ,cafe huile ,manteg, sik,bes,si mwen blie yun di li map di ou ki fanmy ki te fes li lavalas kraze tout ou kraze moun yo.
W blye farin tou wi alos ke w pat menm produi ble. Bagay sa yo se produi de baz yo ye e si yo kraze sa montre w ke agrikilti ak matyè premyè w pat ase mon chè e tou majorite gwo endistryel yo se resous yo te vin eksplwate plen poch san renouvle resous yo. Yo ta rele sa devlopman dirabl. Tout moun ke se lan politik ke se lan ekonomi, depi peyi a dezoganize, plen koripsyon, tout moun se plen poch selman.
Ayisyen, tout neg ki ap joure di betiz yo se paske yo pa we entere peyi a tout bon tande. Lè de neg finn gade yo wè ke malgre dezod yo chape kor yo, se domaj ke reaksyon yo se kwè ke bagay yo nomal lan peyi a.
Dernière édition par pierre le Dim 22 Nov 2009 - 14:46, édité 1 fois
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Sou Jean Claude Duvalye se nou ki tegin pi gwo station televizyon lan karayib la La T.N.H OU TELEVISION NATIONALE D'HAITI . . Nou te depasse ni Rahintel ni television Santo Domingo kitap fe efo kay vwazin an.
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Par essence, un fanatique, et à plus forte raison un lavalassien, est un être vil, mauvais, extrémiste, tueur, débile, archaïque, rétrograde, docteur en marronnage, réactionnaire, magouilleur, assassin, méchant, menteur.
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[quote="Maximo"][size=18]Par essence, un fanatique, et à plus forte raison un MAKOUT, UN GNB est un être vil, mauvais, extrémiste, tueur, débile, archaïque, rétrograde, docteur en marronnage, réactionnaire, magouilleur, assassin, méchant, menteur.
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Avec les lavalassiens , il faut repeter et repeter de simples bribes d' informations ad nauseam sinon leur petite cervelle etroite et instable n'arrive rien a retenir de ce qui se dit sans deformer l'essence et la forme de l'idee exprimee .Je vais essayer encore une fois bien que je sache qu'ils sont obsedes par les macoutes parce qu'ils savent bien qu'avec le makoutisme duvalierien c'est la mort des kokorats lavalasse :
Par essence, un fanatique,
et à plus forte raison un lavalassien,
est un animal vil, cruel, mauvais, extrémiste,
tueur, débile, archaïque, rétrograde,
docteur en marronnage, réactionnaire
,magouilleur, assassin, méchant, menteur.
Une bete feroce quoi !qui n'appartient a la societe des humains .
Par essence, un fanatique,
et à plus forte raison un lavalassien,
est un animal vil, cruel, mauvais, extrémiste,
tueur, débile, archaïque, rétrograde,
docteur en marronnage, réactionnaire
,magouilleur, assassin, méchant, menteur.
Une bete feroce quoi !qui n'appartient a la societe des humains .
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Apré 20 zanés lavalas peyi a samble yun peyi ki soti lan lagès pa minme guinyen cinema enko .
Kote bel cinema sou JEAN CLAUDE yo triumph capitol imperial rex koté bel cinéma en plin air yo park cine drive in de lux ciné
a la yun bel evolition sou rejim lavalas la.Messié lavalas yo fermin bek nou apres bomb atomik sa nou lague sou payi a.
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Kote bel cinema sou JEAN CLAUDE yo triumph capitol imperial rex koté bel cinéma en plin air yo park cine drive in de lux ciné
a la yun bel evolition sou rejim lavalas la.Messié lavalas yo fermin bek nou apres bomb atomik sa nou lague sou payi a.
WIFOUT WIFOUT WIFOUT
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WIFOUT a écrit:Apré 20 zanés lavalas payi a samble yun payi ki soti lan lagès pa minme guinyen cinema enko .
Kote bel cinema sou JEAN CLAUDE yo triumph capitol imperial rex koté bel cinéma en plin air yo park cine drive in de lux ciné
a la yun bel evolition sou rejim lavalas la.Messié lavalas yo fermin bek nou apres bomb atomik sa nou lague sou payi a.
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MOVE SANT,KOUMANMAN LANMANTENG
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WIFOUT a écrit:Apré 20 zanés lavalas peyi a samble yun peyi ki soti lan lagès pa minme guinyen cinema enko .
Kote bel cinema sou JEAN CLAUDE yo triumph capitol imperial rex koté bel cinéma en plin air yo park cine drive in de lux ciné
a la yun bel evolition sou rejim lavalas la.Messié lavalas yo fermin bek nou apres bomb atomik sa nou lague sou payi a.
WIFOUT WIFOUT WIFOUT
Mpa konn si sa va ede w konprann men tande byen sa a. Se tout kote ki pa gen sal cinema lan chak kalfou anko. Lan Kanada a penn si ge yon sel drive in tankou w di cinema en plein air. Cinema se yon bisnis pou rapote lajan e ki rapote lajan ki fe yun ou de group ap toujpou cheche monopolize ke se pou prodiksyon ou distribysyon. W sonje formil Triumph la, plisye sal, se te lide yon bizisman, se te komansman sa ki ap ape jodi a kote Famous Players okipe yon koken complexe ak pafwa dis sal kote y'ap pale 10 film an menm tan ou preske tout jounen. W gen le se sa selman ke w kon fe kom divetisman ki fe w vini ak yon ekzanpl fe bak kon sa. Al cheche konen ki es ki met jan de biznis sa yo avan ou akize leta Ayisyen pa opale pou yon gouvenman. Sinema se bagay sekte prive jan gen moun Ayiti, jan jenn moun ap cheche divetisman, si sal yo femen se paske yo pa fe lajan malgre anpil popilasyon a. Se pa lavalas, sispann ekri betiz. Pou bizniz cinema mache fo ke li ta a bon pri e la ankor se pa garanti. Ayiti pa jan de peyi kote moun plen lajan e ke yo pa gen okazyon pou depansel. Manye bay moun repo ak pawol sa si w se yon jenn gason ou yon jenn fi entelijan. W gen dwa pa renmen lavalas men fe yon efo, al cheche yon bon rezon, yon rezon valabl pou kritike'l. Sa pa etone'm, pi pitit suib pi gran le map tande sa yon neg ki finn gran moun ap di lan sit la.
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Se pa lavalas, sispann ekri betiz. Pou bizniz cinema mache fo ke li ta a bon pri e la ankor se pa garanti. Ayiti pa jan de peyi kote moun plen lajan e ke yo pa gen okazyon pou depansel. Manye bay moun repo ak pawol sa si w se yon jenn gason ou yon jenn fi entelijan. W gen dwa pa renmen lavalas men fe yon efo, al cheche yon bon rezon, yon rezon valabl pou kritike'l. Sa pa etone'm, pi pitit suib pi gran le map tande sa yon neg ki finn gran moun ap di lan sit la.
Epoutan Pierre pa lavalsyen! Pierre, Pierre tu es pierre .... Pa aji tankou moun ki san kolonn vetebwal. Moun pa bezwen checeh rezon pou pa lavalas, daye de ki zel nan pati lavalas la wap pale? Lavalas depi moun ki chwazi nom sa'a pou youn pati politik deja di de ki pil fatra ki fome pati a ak ki kalite moun ki andedan li...
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Se insekirite ki instale lavalasseman nan peyi ya ki fè tout moun pè soti le swa e al nan sinema, depi yo komanse kidnape moun ki ta pwal sinema yo, yo sispann ale. Men verite ya, e se sa ki kraze sinema yo jiska se ke pa rete youn nan Potoprins lan kounye ya, tankou anpil lot biznis ke insekirite ya te kraze. Pa gen sekrè nan fè kola, kote lavalas pase se le dezas, la katastrof, yo pa kite anyen, se le neyan.
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Gen le se ak MINUSTAH w'ap travay. Si w pa ga bay sekirite ankor retire kor w. Kouman, nou pa jenen ap di idiyosi anko mesye. Mwen dako nou pa vle we lavalas menm si mpa lavalas map di ankor, men jan nou pale sanble pa gen okin lot pati ki bezwen tet dlo tankou nou mesye.
Manye wont non. Nou se yon bann moun fou malad ki we lavalas tou patou. Nap fe move rev.
Manye wont non. Nou se yon bann moun fou malad ki we lavalas tou patou. Nap fe move rev.
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Maximo a écrit:Se insekirite ki instale lavalasseman nan peyi ya ki fè tout moun pè soti le swa e al nan sinema, depi yo komanse kidnape moun ki ta pwal sinema yo, yo sispann ale. Men verite ya, e se sa ki kraze sinema yo jiska se ke pa rete youn nan Potoprins lan kounye ya, tankou anpil lot biznis ke insekirite ya te kraze. Pa gen sekrè nan fè kola, kote lavalas pase se le dezas, la katastrof, yo pa kite anyen, se le neyan.
Mwen te espere ke Pierre ta pwal konprann kounyea ke politik yon gouvenman genyen repèkisyon sou sosyete a an jeneral e ekonomi an pli presizeman. men sanble ke mwen genyen tò. Se pa lavalas ki pase kadna nan pòt yo, men se politik de terè yo ki asasinen jan aktivite sosyal sa yo.
Se menm jan pou lè dimanch apre midi kote tout timoun te konn abiye pou ale sou Chanmas pou y al bwè krèm.
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