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Message  Joel Mar 17 Aoû 2010 - 22:10

Yo di yo t ap bay yon kominike sou refòm edikasyon an,ann AYITI.
Eske nou tande ki refòm ki ap fèt.Frankofou yo ka kriye wi.
Si se PAUL VALLAS ki responsab refòm lan vre,se yon nonm ki pa betize non.Se misye ki ap refòme sistèm Edikasyon an ,lan CHICAGO ak NEW ORLEANS.
Eske Franse pral bwachat?

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Message  Erzulie Mar 17 Aoû 2010 - 22:26

Eske se de sa-a wap pale:


New education system may rise from Haiti's ruins
BY JACQUELINE CHARLES
jcharles@MiamiHerald.com

Of the 800 children born each day in this luckless Caribbean nation, only 567 are fortunate enough to eventually attend school. One of three finishes sixth grade, and just seven of that original 800 ever see the inside of a university. And those numbers reflect the situation before the Jan. 12 earthquake wiped out or damaged 1,300 schools. As leaders prepare to shape this quake-battered nation's rebuilding effort, proponents of education want to seize the moment to fix a broken education system. ``Poor parents pay up to half of their income to send kids to bad schools,'' said Marcelo Cabrol, the Inter-American Development Bank's chief education expert. ``It's like going to see a doctor without a license to practice.'' For months, he, New Orleans' education guru, Paul Vallas, and members of a high-level Haitian presidential commission on education have been waging a quiet debate on how to transform education in this nation where 2.5 million of the nine million people can't read or write. At the heart of their discussions: How to ensure quality education in a country with so much inequity and so few resources -- and where 90 percent of the schools are privately run, adhering to wildly disparate standards. Even before the quake, a million school-age Haitian children simply didn't go to school. What they have come up with is an ambitious plan that seeks to use international aid dollars to not only subsidize the construction of new schools but also to put private schools, which are the vast majority, under state oversight.

Although the Haitian government has a spotty history as far as competent stewardship is concerned, the hope is that money can be used as a means to hold schools accountable and as a way to raise teacher salaries in a country where some household servants can make more than educators.


In exchange for funding, schools would be required to reduce classroom sizes, train and recruit quality teachers, and qualify for national certification.

The plan seeks $4.3 billion over two years, and is among dozens of projects -- including the construction of a new $15 million, 320-bed teaching hospital in the central Haiti town of Mirebalais -- that are expected to be presented Tuesday when former President Bill Clinton and Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive chair a meeting of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission.

LONG AWAITED

The long-awaited meeting is supposed to provide Haitians and supporters of the country's rebuilding initiative the first real glance at how Haiti seeks to dig itself out from underneath the rubble that left an estimated 300,000 dead, an equal number injured and 1.5 million homeless.

``Wouldn't it be a great luxury to have enough schools where parents would fight to try and get their children in those schools?'' said Vallas, who is superintendent of the Recovery School District of New Orleans and serves as a consultant to the Haitian government's education commission.

``If you subsidize schools that are of higher quality, that are using the national curriculum, that have certified teachers that have higher quality instruction and that are either waiving their tuition or charging affordable tuition costs, that is where those parents will gravitate.''

Haiti's ongoing struggle with education is as visible as the boys and girls who blanket its crumbled streets in neatly pressed uniforms, walking through teeming tent cities to classrooms where chalkboards are a luxury and tarps serve as walls.

It is as visible as the donated Good Samaritan tents and battered blue tarps lining the narrow residential street in Delmas 65 where nearly two dozen teachers struggle to provide instruction in French without textbooks and over the blare of neighborhood music and crowing roosters at The Congregational School of the Glorious Cross.

Here, Sister Ectane Dorval, a petite nun whose tiny Roman Catholic order founded the school 14 years ago, receives no funding from the local archdiocese, and tuition is what parents of the 550 students can afford to give. Three months after the quake, the school reopened.

``We function on the grace of those parents who can pay,'' she said. ``Some can't pay anything. Since I am the one who agreed to walk with the poor, we take what they bring us.''

What that means is for months the school has been unable to pay its teachers who average about $75 a month, much less recruit better qualified teachers or pay the yearly $4,000 rent on its cramped classrooms inside the multi-story building or afford the $65,000 to buy a nearby vacant lot to build a new school.

``We have no choice but to remain in the streets,'' she said. ``But we can't go on like this.''

Maryse Kedar, a local entrepreneur who along with her husband, famed photographer Daniel Kedar, founded 14 ``tent schools'' and hired 135 teachers in the wake of the earthquake, said the quake offers not just an opportunity to transform the face of education in Haiti but to expand schooling to children as young as 3.

ATTACKING THE PROBLEM

It's a move that has the support of Haiti's first lady, Elisabeth Delatour Préval, who also has been quietly pushing for more attention to be paid to early childhood education.

``If we really want to change something in Haiti today, this is the problem that we have to attack. If we attack this problem properly, in 15 years we'll have a very different country,'' Kedar said.

Kedar said her brief experience with her Kay Timoun schools has taught her that, despite all the challenges in Haiti, the country has produced some great minds. Also: that parents, many of whom are illiterate, want something better for their children.

Still the issue of government involvement in the private management of schools is a thorny one.

``Once you say in this country government and the private sector you might as well declare war because one doesn't always walk alongside the other,'' said Jacky Lumarque, rector of private Quisqueya University in Port-au-Prince and the head of the presidential commission on education and teacher training. ``We have a culture of opposition.''

But 200 years of the status quo is no longer acceptable, Lumarque said.

``The first thing we need to do as a nation is guarantee, with government funding, that all children between the ages of 5 and 12 have access to an education,'' he said.

The concept is not new, and in fact dates back to Haiti's 1816 Constitution when then-President Alexandre Pétion had it inscribed into the governing document. Years later, Pétion's successor, Jean-Pierre Boyer, would take it a step further, requiring state-financed primary education.

``Haiti was the first country in this region to pass a law making the guarantee of an education obligatory,'' Lumarque said. ``We were the first to make the demand, but we've been last in realization.''

`UNREALISTIC' PLANS

Lumarque said there has been no shortage of plans on how to overhaul Haiti's education system, nor any dearth of presidential decrees on the constitutional right of education for all. But all of the plans have been ``unrealistic,'' he said.

``If you look at all of the country's plans over the past 15, 20 years, you see the same pattern and they all look alike,'' he said. ``The government has to put in place a system of control and evaluation.''

It also has to commit to spending more of its own money. Currently, Haiti spends 2 percent of its gross domestic product on education -- compared to the Latin American average of 5 percent -- and Lumarque would like to see Haiti's commitment increased significantly.

``It's a choice you make, if you decide education is important,'' he said. ``The decisions are not simple, but they demand decisive and radical decision making.''
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 17 Aoû 2010 - 23:10

For me the reform of education is not only a priority in haiti ,but also in the United States.Reforming education does not mean only building more schools.we need to review the curriculum to see if it gives the students the tools necessary to earn a decent living after graduation.When you consider that haiti is importing everything the people used you wonder what is the use of this education.It is time that the experts seat down and review what they are teaching the children in the schools.This question of what language should be used in the first years of school is very important also.What language the majority of students in haiti speak ;why should they learn in a foreign language?

According to the statistics published in the Miss Charles piece less than 1% of the children who are enrolling in our primary schools will attend a university.What happens to those who don't have the means to go overseas to study?This is the reason why I think the government should build more vocational schools in haiti.The youth delinquency rate in the united states and in haiti is proportionnaly related to the literacy rate of the young people.When you take a young man or a young woman who doesn't have the skills necessary to get a job what do you expect him or her to do?To die of hunger?
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Message  Joel Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 7:52

1% timoun yo rive lan inivèsite.Pwoblèm lan se yon ti kras lan timoun yo ki fini lekòl segondè.
DOMINIKANI ki gen yon popilasyon egal a pa nou an gradye plis ke 5 fwa plis timoun lekòl segondè chak ane.
Yo di yo pral prepare yon minimòm 2500 pwofesè lekòl chak ane pou yo ajoute sou sa ki genyen yo;kote yo pral jwenn yo?
Si yo vle yon refòm fèt vre;se pou yo pa kite frankofou entèvni lan deba sa a.Ke PAUL VALLAS ouvri 2 zou 3 stasyon radyo pou nwaye bri yo pral fè.
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Se pa jodi an non ke AMERIKEN yo ap eseye entwodwi lekòl vokasyonèl ann AYITI.Yo te reyisi fè sa lan Kiba ak Dominikani.Se tankou bezbòl,ameriken yo te entwodwi jwèt sa a lan dominikani ak kiba yo pa t ka fè l ann AYITI.Ayisyen ki gen yon ti moso edikasyon pa kwè se pou yo travay ak men yo.Lè nenpòt izin bezwen mekanisyen DIZÈL pou machin lan faktori yo,se DOMINIKANI yo voye chache yo.
Tankou SANON di l ;edikasyon ann AYITI se aprann franse;3/4 tan timoun se de sa yo okipe l;bagay ki pa menm fèt an FRANS ankò.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 9:58

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Si youn moun ap konsidere kantite ti moun ki pa ka menm ale lekol ,saki pa ka ale nan lyse, e sa ki abandone etid yo anvan yo fini ak sa ki pa ka rantre nan iniversite fok ou ta rekonet valè lekol pwofesyonel yo an ayiti.se pou sa mwen di depi se neg kite pase Minis edikatyon nantyonal tankou alexis ;Lesly voltaire ki ap vinn chante sa ke yo pral fè mwen di tout se radot nan mache se radot.Mwen pa menm vle rele neg sa yo intelektyel.
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Message  Invité Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 10:05

Joel a écrit:1% timoun yo rive lan inivèsite.Pwoblèm lan se yon ti kras lan timoun yo ki fini lekòl segondè.
DOMINIKANI ki gen yon popilasyon egal a pa nou an gradye plis ke 5 fwa plis timoun lekòl segondè chak ane.
Yo di yo pral prepare yon minimòm 2500 pwofesè lekòl chak ane pou yo ajoute sou sa ki genyen yo;kote yo pral jwenn yo?
Si yo vle yon refòm fèt vre;se pou yo pa kite frankofou entèvni lan deba sa a.Ke PAUL VALLAS ouvri 2 zou 3 stasyon radyo pou nwaye bri yo pral fè.
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Se pa jodi an non ke AMERIKEN yo ap eseye entwodwi lekòl vokasyonèl ann AYITI.Yo te reyisi fè sa lan Kiba ak Dominikani.Se tankou bezbòl,ameriken yo te entwodwi jwèt sa a lan dominikani ak kiba yo pa t ka fè l ann AYITI.Ayisyen ki gen yon ti moso edikasyon pa kwè se pou yo travay ak men yo.Lè nenpòt izin bezwen mekanisyen DIZÈL pou machin lan faktori yo,se DOMINIKANI yo voye chache yo.
Tankou SANON di l ;edikasyon ann AYITI se aprann franse;3/4 tan timoun se de sa yo okipe l;bagay ki pa menm fèt an FRANS ankò.

Joel, se pa ameriken ki intwodwi Beisbol an Dominikani, se kiben mte li yon artik sou kose saa.

Koze iniversite a, son gwo problem. Mgen anpil kouzen an ayiti ki fini klas filo yo, pwoblem ki genyen.. Pou'w antre nan Iniversite se par «Magouy», Si'w gen kob bon pa bon wap rantre. Se yon injustis ki fè 3/4 nan moun sa yo paka antre iniversite menm si yo fini lekol a 17-18 an
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 10:18

Ti neg kim moun ki te intwodwi baseball kiba?Genyen yon lot bagay ankò ou pa tande konbyen etidyan ayisyen ki ap etidye an dominikani ;nou genyen ase iniversite pou resevwa tout etidyan sa yo?poukisa se dominiken ki ap vinn bati yon kanpus modern bò limonad pou fè nou kado?Preval te dwe wont al nan seremoni saa.
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Message  Sasaye Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 11:40

Dapre sa m konprann lan atik saa, gen anpil pwogrè ki ap fèt lan domèn edikasyon an ann Ayiti.
Gen anpil etid pwogresis ki ap fèt avèk solisyon pou gwo problèm saa.

Men espere ke mantalite ayisyen an pèmèt ke rekomandasyon final yo enplemante.

Epitou, mantalite retwograd lan gen pou l efase lè sistèm edikasyon an rankontre reyalite peyi a.

Youn lan pwen ki siprann mwen, se obsevasyon ke Bwaye te al pi lwen ke Petyon lan mande ke edikasyon primè obligatwa.
Li sanble se yon kontradiksyon lan sa ke nou konn tande Bwaye te fè lan sistèm edikasyon peyi a.

Sa ki pi enpòtan, se pou tout bagay rekomanse a zero epi byen fèt apre tranblemandtè a.
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Message  Amoph Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 11:56

Baseball pa fè parti de tradisyon, de kultur, de spOr, ... dè zayisyen.

An plus, supèrfisi peyi a pa plede an favèur du devlopman dun tèl spOr. Chan agrikOl nou yo ta pral redwi an nun mouchwar de pOch (an nun po'd chagren) kontenu de kantite dektar de tèren disponibl pou nou obtenir yon sèul tèren de jeu.


Football par kontr, trè byen ankre nan tradisyon, kultur, spOr,... dè zayisyen. An plè'n "rue" a Portoprens gro match kon'n ap jwe (nou pa nesesèrman bezwen de gran zespas pou nou fèr balon sirkule).

Football konsidere kOm spOr nasyonal numero 1 nan peyi a.

Baseball reprezante pour cuben, dominiken, ameriken, ... se ke football reprezante pour ayisyen.



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Message  Joel Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 12:09

AMOPH;
Ou pi entelijan ke sa.Se nou ki te envante foutbòl?
Nou pa t envante ni foutbòl,ni bezbòl;alòs kouman w fè di ke foutbòl lan kilti nou,bezbòl pa lan kilti nou.
Eksplikasyon an ,sè ke ti klas moun ki antèt yo;se tankou se franse yo ye.Yo vwayaje ,y al etidye an FRANS,yo jwenn franse yo ap jwe foutbòl ,donk se pou yo jwe foutbòl tou.
Si yo t al an FRANS,yo te jwenn franse yo ap jwe bezbòl,ou t ap jwenn tout ti ayisyen ap jwe bezbòl menm jan ak ti dominiken ,ti kiben ak ti venezwelyen yo.
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Message  Invité Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 12:45

Joel a écrit:AMOPH;
Ou pi entelijan ke sa.Se nou ki te envante foutbòl?
Nou pa t envante ni foutbòl,ni bezbòl;alòs kouman w fè di ke foutbòl lan kilti nou,bezbòl pa lan kilti nou.
Eksplikasyon an ,sè ke ti klas moun ki antèt yo;se tankou se franse yo ye.Yo vwayaje ,y al etidye an FRANS,yo jwenn franse yo ap jwe foutbòl ,donk se pou yo jwe foutbòl tou.
Si yo t al an FRANS,yo te jwenn franse yo ap jwe bezbòl,ou t ap jwenn tout ti ayisyen ap jwe bezbòl menm jan ak ti dominiken ,ti kiben ak ti venezwelyen yo.

Joel mwen kwè ke si'w wal Ayiti nan klas elit kou klas ki pi pov yo ou met Yon match Brezil VS Argentine ak Yon match Yankees VS Red Socks se match futbol la yap pran.
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Message  Invité Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 12:50

Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:Ti neg kim moun ki te intwodwi baseball kiba?Genyen yon lot bagay ankò ou pa tande konbyen etidyan ayisyen ki ap etidye an dominikani ;nou genyen ase iniversite pou resevwa tout etidyan sa yo?poukisa se dominiken ki ap vinn bati yon kanpus modern bò limonad pou fè nou kado?Preval te dwe wont al nan seremoni saa.
Se etidyan kiben ki retounen nan peyi yo.
Men Istwa Beisbol an dominikani

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Vre pwoblem ke nou genyen an Ayiti, nou pa fouti fome yon bon jouè fotball tankou peyi Afriken yo. Menmsi yo pov lè yo fòme jwè sa yo, yo gen espwa ta souse on zo si li vinn milyonè. Konsa presk tout peyi afrik de lwès yo gen on Didier Drogba, Yon Samuel Eto, yon Michael Essien, Yon Muntari
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Message  Joel Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 13:40

T-NEG a écrit:
Joel mwen kwè ke si'w wal Ayiti nan klas elit kou klas ki pi pov yo ou met Yon match Brezil VS Argentine ak Yon match Yankees VS Red Socks se match futbol la yap pran.

Mwen pa konprann sa w vle di an.Si w al KIBA ak DOMINIKANI yomenm se match YANKEES vs RED SOCKS lan y ap gade.
Se yon kesyon de abitid.Kite m di w franchman;mwen vin renmen foutbòl ameriken an;rezon an lè mwen rankontre ak frè m e ak neve m yo,se de sa nou pale.Mwen renmen aspè serebral foutbòl ameriken an.Se jis yon afè abitid.
Mwen pa rayi bezbòl non pli.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 14:50

Bon mwen pa konnen pou tout moun mwen premye kote mwen jwe baseball se Ouanaminthe kote mwen te al pase vakans ka pastè Lamour.se nan la cour pitit li te entwoduim nan jwet saa ke frè Ouanaminth yo te konn fè elev yo jwe.Lè map gade tounwa mondyal ti moun ki ap fet pennsylvania kote yon zile tankou Curacao ap patisdipe mwen pa mande tet mwen eske li pa pi nan avantaj ayisyen ke nou te jwe baseball.ou renmen jwet ou te kon jwe lè w te ti noum Al mandde alex Rodriguez ant football e baseball ki les li pi renmen wa tande sa li a di w.Yon match baseball ka osi enteresan ke yon match football si moun ki ap gade l konprann subtilite jwet la.se menm bagay pou basket tou.pou football ameriken yan tou.si yon moun pa konprann jwet sa yo ou pa ka apresye yo.mwen pa fanatik hockey men mwen konn ap gade new York islanders match ki byen enteresan.se kiltive pou kiltive gou jwet sa yo pou apresye yo.yon moun renmen messie paske se football ou te jkont jwe. Men pitit piti mwen yo ki renmen Lebron james ak koby bryant se baskett ball yo jwe lakay yo.sak fè mwen rnemen Serena Williams kom yon atlet fanm paske mwen konpran tennis.
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Message  Sasaye Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 15:00

Menmsi mwen pa ta konprann Tenis, mwen ta p gade dada Serena.
Li te met se Bezbol li ta p jwe, mwen ta p gade l tou.
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Message  revelation Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 15:04

Lumarque said. The first thing we need to do as a nation is guarantee, with government funding, that all children between the ages of 5 and 12 have access to an education,'' he said. The concept is not new, and in fact dates back to Haiti's 1816 Constitution when then-President Alexandre Pétion had it inscribed into the governing document. Years later, Pétion's successor, Jean-Pierre Boyer, would take it a step further, requiring state-financed primary education.
Kom nou we, system edikasyon skoler nan peyi Dayiti te garanti avek sipo gouvenman yo.

Erre ke Leta fe se ke bay pitit pep Access a Edikasyon pa vle di ke li kap resevwa yon edikasyon.

Leta te konstwi lekol se vre men kondition e environman etidyan sa yo pat pemet yo resevwa yon edikasyon adekwat.

Solution problem nan se ke fok Leta prand an charj timoun de 5 a 12 zan.

Bayo iniform komplet, avek materyel skoler komplet.

Kafeterya, sal d’etid, tuteur, bibliotek komplet

Sal de repozwa,dortwa e d’hygien komplet.

Sal de jeux (inside) e terren de jeux (outdoor) komplet.

Elimine tout problem sosyal e ekonomik nan tet etidyan yo.

Answit mete yon system de kontrol e evaluasyon ki pou pemet Leta fe yon analiz pri e benefis pou we si lajan ke yo investí nan edikasyon a vo la penn.

Si 20 a 25% nan timoun sa yo rive yon bagay demen, se ap yon sikse pou peyi a.

Gouvenman gen 2 chwa devan’l
Yon system a courterm mete pitit pep la nan le kol prive subvansiyone pa Leta pou yo pa pedi annee skoler yo, an atandan ke Leta konstwi prop lekol yo.
Yon system final a lonterm ki ankadre sa ke’m di pli ho a.
T-Neg di: Vre pwoblem ke nou genyen an Ayiti, nou pa fouti fome yon bon jouè fotball tankou peyi Afriken yo. Menmsi yo pov lè yo fòme jwè sa yo, yo gen espwa ta souse on zo si li vinn milyonè. Konsa presk tout peyi afrik de lwès yo gen on Didier Drogba, Yon Samuel Eto, yon Michael Essien, Yon Muntari.
Apenn si 1% vini yon millione.
Bagay yo pa fasil konsa T-Neg !!

T-Neg sispand revé
An nou konsantre nou sou edikasyon akademik pito!
Gade video sa yo pou sa we pwoblem ke jwe nwa gennyen nan league football europeyen yo! Si se nan kondisyon sa yo pou'm vinn millione, mwen pito chita tout vie'm sou ban lekol!


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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 15:45

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Zafè Dada Serena se yon bagay ekstraordinè papa.
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Message  Amoph Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 16:33

Notr byen-eme Joël a ekri :

AMOPH;
Ou pi entelijan ke sa.Se nou ki te envante foutbòl?
Nou pa t envante ni foutbòl,ni bezbòl;alòs kouman w fè di ke foutbòl lan kilti nou,bezbòl pa lan kilti nou.
Eksplikasyon an ,sè ke ti klas moun ki antèt yo;se tankou se franse yo ye.Yo vwayaje ,y al etidye an FRANS,yo jwenn franse yo ap jwe foutbòl ,donk se pou yo jwe foutbòl tou.
Si yo t al an FRANS,yo te jwenn franse yo ap jwe bezbòl,ou t ap jwenn tout ti ayisyen ap jwe bezbòl menm jan ak ti dominiken ,ti kiben ak ti venezwelyen yo.


Peti rapèl : Se anglè yo ki envante football.

Football de trè lwen le spOr le plu populèr o mond (nan tout rekwen planèt la, gro football ap jwe). "Filles" tou kOm "garçons" ap choute boul. Dè sOm darjan astronomik ap brase nan football la, surtou an "Europe" (dè milyar e dè milyar).

Dezole :

An Ayiti, pèupl la tèlman atache a football li (Partisipasyon DAYITI a la KOUP du MOND de 1974 a Munich an "Allemagne en témoigne" ).

Kèlkeswa otr disipli'n spOrtiv ke nou ta vle fèr populasyon an dekouvri nan peyi a (par exanpl : baseball) ta pral oblije pase, dan le meyèur dè ka, o segon plan.


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Message  Sasaye Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 16:35

Ahhh Malis,
Ou wè sa tou?

Fanm saa ka touye yon nèg wi !!!!!
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Message  Invité Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 17:02

M'pa si telman renmen gade Beisbos, se plis leu sou terren wap jwe jwet sa bel. Fok ou kalkile ak ki vites lap bal lap a vini e moman presis pou frappe bal lan.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 18:10

sassaye

sa w di ya se pa yon figi de speech non kondi meriken yo di ya.Si fanm saa pa fwad kondi nou di epi li vle ba yon nonm randman vre li ka rete kè w wi .men kondi pwoverb la di ya puisqu'il faut mourir,mourrons pour un plaisir vraiment excitant.Mwen sonje anna creole wi.
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Message  Sasaye Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 18:49

Mwen sonje anna creole wi.

Mwenmenm tou.
Li toujou lan kè m.
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Message  Joel Mer 18 Aoû 2010 - 22:07

Amoph a écrit:

Peti rapèl : Se anglè yo ki envante football.

Football de trè lwen le spOr le plu populèr o mond (nan tout rekwen planèt la, gro football ap jwe). "Filles" tou kOm "garçons" ap choute boul. Dè sOm darjan astronomik ap brase nan football la, surtou an "Europe" (dè milyar e dè milyar).

Dezole :

An Ayiti, pèupl la tèlman atache a football li (Partisipasyon DAYITI a la KOUP du MOND de 1974 a Munich an "Allemagne en témoigne" ).

Kèlkeswa otr disipli'n spOrtiv ke nou ta vle fèr populasyon an dekouvri nan peyi a (par exanpl : baseball) ta pral oblije pase, dan le meyèur dè ka, o segon plan.


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AMOPH
Pa gen kontradiksyon ;lan sa w di an ;ak sa m di an.Pa gen moun ki ka enpoze bezbòl sou ayisyen;menm jan tout tantativ pou yo foure lang franse an lan gòj yo;se toujou nad marinad (lol).

Premis mwen an sè ke ETAZINI te anvayi e KIBA e DOMINIKANI.Yo te lan KIBA depi an 1898;DOMINIKANI menm yo te okipe l menm lè yo te okipe nou an ,byen ke yo te kite l anvan nou.

Alòs ,poukisa nou pa vle jwe bezbòl ;se foutbòl nou te vle jwe.Ameriken yo te konn jwe bezbòl ann AYITI tou wi.
Se AYISYEN ki te ale an FRANS yo ki te entwodwi foutbòl ann AYITI byen ke se Angle yo ki te envante l.
Se sa k fè mwen di w ,si franse yo te jwe bezbòl,ou t ap wè si nou pa t ap jwe l tou.
AMOPH;
Lan kòmansman ane 60s yo,bagay serye mwen te kwè ke se te franse yo ki te envante rock and roll.
Se yon lòt diskisyon
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Message  alex jacques Jeu 19 Aoû 2010 - 0:33

Eske Franse pral bwachat?
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Joel, se premye benediksyon ke nou bezwen nan tout refom edikatif " Voye franse bwa chat". Moun ki vle pale-l ka toujou pale-l, men zafe mete lang franse nan konstitisyon peyi a, se yo rizib.

mwen pa etone paske konstitisyon sa-a te ekri pa moun tankou madan Manigat, konstitisyon sa-a pwouve koman entelektyel Ayisyen panse "esklizyon, mefians enstisyonalize, absans fleksibilite".

Se konstitisyon ki pi difisil pou moun amande nan mond lan wi!
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Message  Joel Jeu 19 Aoû 2010 - 8:39

ALEX;

Bagay lang franse sa a se yon pichon,yon pongongon sou do pèp ayisyen an.Plis m ap aprann ,plis mwen rann mwen kont ke retire franse kòm lang edikasyon an,paka tann.Si nou renmen AYITI.nou vle pwogrè ,se pou nou leve kanpe.
Gen moun ki vle konpare nou ak peyi afriken an ;yo di ki adopte franse kòm lang edikasyon.Diferans lan sè ke peyi afriken sa yo ,genyen ki genyen 10,20,30 lang diferan.
Noumenm se yon sèl lang nou genyen;nou tout pale l;nou tout konprann li.

Franse yo tou te gen yon pwoblèm lang.ABE GREGWA di ke an 1794 ,franse yo te pale 36 lang ou byen patwa ,jan li te rele yo an;yo te bezwen yon lang pou inifye franse yo ,donk yo chwazi lang franse an ke se te moun ki te rete a rebò PARIS yo ki te pale l.Malgre sa sa pa t fasil.

Se menm ABE GREGWA sa a ki apre endepandans anmède AYISYEN yo ,jis yo vin adopte lang franse an kòm lang nasyonal.Pwofesè ALYSSA GOLDSTEIN (CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY) ki se yon admiratè ABE GREGWA di ke misye pa t sezi ,lan ki traka li t ap vin mete AYITI ak zafè lang franse sa a.Sikonstans yo te diferan an FRANS.
Lang FRANSE an te sèvi pou l ini pèp franse ;tandis ke noumenm li sèvi pou l divize nou;paske nou te gen pwòp lang pa nou ,ke nou tout te pale.

ALEX ak SM
Lespri nou ouvè sou kesyon sa a ;mwen envite nou li ,premye chapit liv sa a ""HISTOIRE DE LA LANGUE FRANÇAISE DES ORIGINES A 1900""
Na wè ke agiman ke ABE GREGWA te ize an AVRIL 1794 yo pou franse te vin sèl lang nasyonal ,nou ta ka ize yo pou KREYÒL lan jounen jodi an.

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