what if they had our problems, then their societies would be..........

OBSERVER KEEN Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 14:58

the French protested and destroyed things because of a labor proposal to increase the work-week by A MERE 2 more hours; the British called for the head of prince Charles and attacked his car after the state proposed to increase tuition; the Greeks burned government buildings because of proposed austerity measures and same things with the Irish; and the irony is that the journalists from these countries would be the first to insinuate that we Haitians are prone to violence. now if the French, the British, the Greeks and the Irish can do that much damage for such little problems, what would they do to their society I wonder if foreigners infected them with cholera, if their votes were taken for granted, their capital destroyed by a massive earth-quake and their country occupied by indifferent and abusive foreign troops?

Le gros roseau Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 15:06

Amen ."L'origine de la haine est la haine de ses propres origines."mwen pap janm bliye verite saa jis mwen mouri.Shit, fuck all these Uncle Tom. Merde

OBSERVER KEEN Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 15:07

After an earthquake had destroyed Lisbon, the Portuguese went on a rampage killing innocent Jews; after bubonic plague RAVAGED many western European countries, they went on a rampage killing gypsies and Jews; Yet we Haitians have endured all these bad things in some shape or form and more in a shorter amount of time, yet we cherish the lives of outsiders and others. never did we kill Dominicans in retaliation for murders of our brothers in the Dominican republic?
the truth is that, at the end of the day, we are a pretty bunch of civilized people because we have never mistreated outsiders among us.

P.S: the massacre of the french PRIOR to our independence does not count because they were not outsiders residing among us, they were opposing native elements in a struggle between forces of slavery and those of freedom.

grandzo di Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 15:28

Gros roseau

Sometimes you are wise but most of the time you don't listen...

grandzo di Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 15:32

What keen is saying is basic knowledge.. You should teach people those basics principles.. You are all over the place.. you change your mind as much les femmes changent de culotte.. you have a lot to bring to the conversation.. let's us take an example : Joel he has never bothered to change his mind and his pseudo…. he is a beautiful mind… I know in your writtings you defend la veuve et l'orphelin….. you need to keep off from controversies… you should bring your empirical knowledge.. your experience… but not confusion.. You know I like you

Joel Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 16:39

KARL;

Sa m ap di yo pa gen anyen pou li wE ak defans "de la veuve et de l'orphelin".
Mwen pa elve tankou plis ke 90% popilasyon an ,se jis pa chans.Mwen leve mwen jwenn dlo kouran lan robinE lakay mwen,twalEt anndan kay lan ,refrijeratE elt ;tankou yon moun ki elve lan peyi etranje yo,se ankO pa jis chans ;paske n ap pale de ane 40s,50s e kOmansman 60s yo.
Ayisyen ki fEt LA SALIN,FO NASYONAL ou byen lan fon peyi an ;se ayisyen tankou m yo ye;yomenm se grangou ki t ap touye yo.

Ou elve an FRANS sa m ap di yo pa gen anyen romantik ladan yo.Si w konnen istwa LA FRANS byen ;ou ka sonje ke lan ane 1880s yo ;apre LALMAY te pyese LA FRANS lan la gE 1870 lan e ke la FRANS reyalize reta li te genyen pa rapO ak LALMAY te gen yon gwoup nEg alantou JULES FERRY te deside chanje bagay yo.
Si w sonje ;yo te deside ekate klEje katolik lan de sistEm edikasyon an e deklare edikasyon inivEsEL.
Ou ka sonje tou ke elit ,boujwazi franse an ,te kont chanjman mesye JULES FERRY yo te vle enplemante;te menm genyen yon tantativ koudeta kont mesye sa yo ,ak JENERAL BOULANGER.

Pa gen de jan pou devlope yon peyi ;se EDIKASYON ak ENFRASTRIKTI.
Sa ki fE mwen kont MANIGA yo ;sE ke MANIGA yo pa p edike pEp lan.Mesyedam sa yo kont bagay sa a.Moun ki dEyE madan MANIGA yo ;se moun ki pa p kite madan MANIGA fE yon kanpay alfabetizasyon.
De moun tankou REYNOLD GEORGE,HIMLER REBU,LALANNE elt..
Mesye sa yo se FACHIS;yo pa menm bon fachis ,paske de nEg tankou MUSSOLINI ou byen HITLER te pou edikasyon pou pEp yo;mesye sa yo pa pou sa.
Y ap prefere pou yo kontinye di ke pEp lan pa ka chwazi dirijan ,paske l analfabEt.
Pou mwenmenm CELESTIN ou menm MARTELLY preferab a madan MANIGA;byen ke tankou PERIVYEN yo te di lan dEnye eleksyon lan peyi yo an ;y ap fE chwa ant SIDA ak KANSE.

Le gros roseau Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 21:17

karl

Vous ne pouvez pas vous revètir de votre toge ," maitre Zabelbok beurre a chat" pour m'effaroucher.C'est vous qui critiquiez les haitiens qui manifestent leur mecontentement par des casses qui se produisent pas seulement en haiti mais dans tous les pays.J'ai applaudi le texte de keen qui vous montre que ces derapages ne se produisent pas seulement en haiti ,Pour justifier vos prejugés vous feignez d'ignorer ce qui se passe dans votre pays d'adoption;alors il fallait qu'on vous rappelle les atocités et les hecatombes commises par vos ancètres les Gaulois.ah ah ah ah;je finirai par dechirer votre flanc ce soir si vous ne cessiez pas d'ecrire vos deraisons petit con.ah ah ah

j'ai deja evoqué la raison de l'adoption de ce nouveau pseudo;suis-je le seul qui utilise different pseudos sur ce forum?

ainsi ne soit-il Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 21:33

Mwen kwè ke se ak Rodlam le roseau ke misye ap pale sou kestyon defans la veuve et l'orphelin an. Lan bon verite, yon nèg pa bije sot LaSalin ou lan Cite Soleil pou li ap pran pati pou moun ki pat gen menm chans ke li. Sou plan sa a, J... pa nèg ki kwè lan inikite. E li pa nèg k'ap pale ak de bor bouch li...

Alyenasyon fini ak peyi sila. Inyorans menm se sa ki ap toujou anpeche'l avanse paske sousou ap toujou poze antrav pou progrè ka reyalize. Yo konn di ke pa gen corrompu si pa gen yon corrupteur, dapre obsèvasyon'm ak ekperyans a'm, koriptè a ka e yon supérieur e yon subalterne, e yon vaniteux e yon resquilleur e yon reste-cuiller sankoutya. Hum!

Ayisyen ap fè dyèlè men yo chita toujou ap kiltive vye valeur ti blancs manants ak petits-bourgeois des cités pauvres. Gen trop malprop lan peyi sila, padon, lan klas moun ki di ke yo se elit men ki depi plis ke 2 syèk chita ap reprodui yon ti gwoup malpróp, egri, avar ki pa janm evolye menm lè yo ap etale lan diskisyon bèl bagay k'ap fèt lan lót peyi. Mande w ki sa ki anpeche yo met tèt ansanb pou bay peyi a direksyon. Si pa gen entèlektyèl serye ki kanpe tou limen pou defand peyi a lan syèkl n'ap viv la a, si pa guides, ki sa nou t'ap tand ke yon poplulasyon dezeuvre remèt lan eleksyon 2010?

Mwen seye konprand imaj televizyon zót ap montre chak jou men se chis moun k'ap rakonte kouman yo te vyolante yo ou kouman yo te asiste a sèn vyolans, kouman yo pat ka vote, k'ap reklame Sweet Micky tèt kale, elatrèy. Se ra pou wè motherfucker yo al chèche yon jenn moun serye ki pa chofe lan la ri a pou di yon bagay serye pou avni sosyete a.

Menm lè Ayisyen a ap reklame jistis, egalite, fratènite, libète, lan fon lespri'l depi yon nèg kravate al kotwaye élite scérolsée pachiman, moun ki gen lajan, depi afe yon nèg vinn bon lan nenpót kondisyon, yo bal ochan. E pi di ankor, jan de nèg konsa ki demagóg tankou se lan yon bal ou sou yon plak kote l'ap voye monte cochonneries, on dirè ke li plis popilis ke nèg serye tankou sa li te vin denonse lan radyo blan bor isit. Motherfucker oui!

Sa ki plis ba'm degoutans, sè ke kreten k'ap pale yo pa gen yon ide de ki sa elite entèlektyèl sipoze defand lan peyi yo. Lan ka Ayisyen se gran domaj ke tout moun pense ke elit pa enfayibl tankou yo di pou Pap la. Lan sityasyon konsa, ki sa mwen ka reproche pèpl la.

Mwen byen kontan tande nouvèl sila menm si mwen pa aplodi a vyolans. Li bon pou n'ap tande ke frustrasyon gen yon limit men kote yo di ke dlo ap koule fre. Li fout lè pou yon bagay serye pase lan peyi a... Li lè pou MINUSTAH rache manyók li. Mwen kwè tout bon ke Ayisyen kondane pou yo jwenn yon teren antant san ke etranje pa prezan.

Sèl konsolasyon, lan pozisyon'm ak lan sa m'kwè, mwen sot gade deux documents audiovisuels, VITA NEEDLE ak Les Violons de Soweto (dezyèm fwa) k'ap montre ki jan moun ki dynamik ap aji pour élever l'âme humaine. An pasan, VITA NEEDLE, se la zón Boston, Massachussetts ke sa ap pase. Très intéressant.

Ala yon forum dekadan, sac à puces ap menen... de tout fason li byen back (fucked) up. Mande dye padon! Smack!

Bon anniversaire! Oups! Pardonnez mon retard pour y aller de ma courbette devant le pape enculé, je voulais plutôt lui demander ce qu'il attend pour crever. Je dan d d danse dans sa tête... Ou ou ouh! Pil sa a li menm pa atire mouch ankor... (LOL) Smack! (lol)

Ayiti anba gwo baton sur l'autel de la vénalité. Ah ça! les grands sacrificateurs peuvent dormir tranquilles. Moi, je ne me berne plus d'illusions. Je ne crois pas un mot de toutes ces histoires.

Et si dans un élan de conscientisation collective, l'on se disait ''Religion oui, Dieu non!''? (lol)

grandzo di Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 21:45

Gros roseau.

POURQUOI Tu t'enerves.... reste poli roseau.. okay sinon ma toge va te servir de robe de taliban

Le gros roseau Ven 10 Déc 2010 - 22:09

mais regardez cet impoli,cet insolent qui me demande d'etre vertueux.Non maitre Zabelbok votre toge ne peut pas me servir de robe de taliban.Vous pouvez toujours changer votre pseudo,mais vous serez toujours un désorienté qui ignore sa culture, son histoire,sa langue et ses moeurs.Les hecatombes de vos ancetres les gaulois ne vous repugnent pas ,mais les pecadilles des haitiens vous causent des traumatismes psychiques qui vous fassent deraisonner .ah ah ah je frappe tard ,mais je frappe fort.(lol)

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