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Message  revelation Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 17:54

Aristide Peaceful Return: The ball is Now in South Africa’s Court! Aristide-family

In defense of Aristide


By IRA KURZBAN
ira@kkwt.law.com
The Haitian government has issued a diplomatic passport to former president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. This is long overdue; Aristide has wanted to return ever since he was forced into exile in 2004.

There is no justification for him not to; he is a Haitian citizen, charged with no crime; and the Haitian constitution explicitly prohibits compulsory political exile. Aristide, The N ew York Times noted during his first exile (1991-1994), “won Haiti’s first and only democratic election overwhelmingly,” followed by a “seven-month tenure [that] was marked by fewer human-rights violations and fewer boat people than any comparable period in modern Haitian history.”

He wants to return home, as a private citizen, and assist in Haiti’s relief effort. He has repeatedly said since 2004 that he wishes to return home to work in the field of education. His two Ph.D.s – one in psychology and the other in African languages – and his history, including seven years teaching in South Africa and the establishment of a medical school and university at the Aristide Foundation are testament to his long involvement in education.

The ball is now in South Africa’s court. Even though Aristide has every right to return under Haitian and international law, documents recently revealed by Wikileaks show that the U.S. and the Brazilian governments have pressured the South African government to keep Aristide there. The United States imposes its will, as the most powerful nation on Earth, to keep in distant exile the deposed president of one of the weakest. Former dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier, meanwhile, walks free, gives press conferences and makes ceremonial visits around Haiti.

The return of Duvalier – accompanied by former death squad leader Louis Jodel Chamblain as his security chief – to Haiti last month revealed the stark double standard in U.S.-Haitian relations, one that harkens back to a shameful era, when the U.S. government propped up the brutal Duvalier regimes for decades. The danger is not only from his impunity, but from the threat of a re-legitimization of Duvalierism. Haiti now stands on the verge of a precipice; an extreme right-wing political turn – one that openly favors the rich and despises the poor – lies below.

The U.S. government is not a neutral spectator to this situation – this is clear from Obama-administration statements more opposed to the idea of Aristide’s return than to Duvalier’s ongoing presence. Even worse, the United States has been pressuring the Haitian authorities into arbitrarily allowing kompa singer Michel Martelly (who is known to have supported Duvalier in the past, and who got the support of just 4.5 percent of registered voters) to proceed to an elections run-off against former first lady Mirlande Manigat (who received 6.4 percent support from registered voters).

Considering what is known of the right-wing proclivities of each, this could be akin to Haiti’s equivalent of a presidential race between an unpopular Republican and an unpopular tea tarty candidate, with no Democrat allowed to compete. Contrary to last week’s media reports, however, the electoral authorities have not yet made a final decision on the elections runoff. It has now emerged that only half of the Electoral Council members actually signed onto the statement announcing Martelly’s advancement; a majority is required.

Ultimately, it is the right of the Haitian people – a right enshrined in Haiti’s constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights – to decide their own political destiny. New first-round elections, including Fanmi Lavalas and all eligible parties this time, are the only democratic way forward. Aristide should also be allowed to return to Haiti. No foreign power – whether the U.S., South Africa, or others – has the right to impede his return. Contrary to what the State Department appears to suggest, by reversing a grave violation of constitutional order when Aristide was ousted, democracy will be strengthened when he comes back, not weakened.

Ira Kurzban was the former general counsel for the government of the Republic of Haiti from 1991 to 2004. He is currently representing former President Aristide.
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Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/14/v-print/2066861/in-defense-of-aristide.html#ixzz1E4QcFtyJ
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Message  revelation Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 18:43

Even though Aristide has every right to return under Haitian and international law, documents recently revealed by Wikileaks show that the U.S. and the Brazilian governments have pressured the South African government to keep Aristide there. The United States imposes its will, as the most powerful nation on Earth, to keep in distant exile the deposed president of one of the weakest. Former dictator Jean-Claude Duvalier, meanwhile, walks free, gives press conferences and makes ceremonial visits around Haiti.
President Zuma’s government is waiting for President Aristide to review and acknowledge some legal documents regarding his exit from South Africa. One of the document mentions that Aristide needs to disclaim that he was kidnapped in February 2004 but more likely forced to resign. That he is leaving at his own freewill and several clauses that appear to be some form of intimidation and scary tactics in order to slowdown the return process.
Apparently, the pressure is on!
This is an ugly and pitiful game that no one should go through.

Nou pa kwe ke yap kite Prezidan Aristide banbile memm jan JC Duvalier ap fe la avek ansyen Makout e mamb FRAPH! [makes ceremonial visits around Haiti]
Tounnen li tounnen, yo pral fe pressyon sou nouvo gouvenman, Martelly ou Manigat pou yo antame aksyon legal kont li aloske jiska prezan yo pa gen intansyon fe sa kont JC Duvalier.
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Message  dilibon Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 18:49

San sekirite pepe yo, ak sa mwen konnen ki deja ous teren an youn retou de ansyen prezidan ka pa toalman bon pou li non! Sonje menm pep kite ap applodi, rele ak tout fos poumon yo "Vviv Jezi wa jwif yo" kite monte youn ti bourik, se menm pep la kite rele 2 jou apre Lage Barabas, krisifye Jezi! Teren an glise, teren an danjere... Jan mwen tande bagya sa yo la se fe ki pwal koupe fe nan oyun van rekonsilyasoyn tet kale!

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Message  Invité Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 19:30

PA GINYEN TOUNIN POU MISIE LAP TAN POU WES SI MIKI AP MONTE POU LI PA PWAN KOUT KOD MIKI A .
KOUT KOD SA AP BOULE LI.
LI VOYE YUN LET POU MIKI POU MANDE SWEET LA PADON E SI LI KA BALI SEKIRITE SWEET LA REPON LI, MWEM PA WENTRE LAN AFE LA JISTIS.

LOL LOL...

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Message  revelation Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 22:23

Dilibon di: San sekirite pepe yo, ak sa mwen konnen ki deja ous teren an youn retou de ansyen prezidan ka pa toalman bon pou li non! Sonje menm pep kite ap applodi, rele ak tout fos poumon yo "Vviv Jezi wa jwif yo" kite monte youn ti bourik, se menm pep la kite rele 2 jou apre Lage Barabas, krisifye Jezi! Teren an glise, teren an danjere... Jan mwen tande bagya sa yo la se fe ki pwal koupe fe nan oyun van rekonsilyasoyn tet kale!
Ti analoji biblik sa se pou fe timoun domi!!Barabas te met rete Barabas e Jesus ap rete Jesus!!
Peson pap krisifye si pa gen pousse dife! Si nou komanse batay sa ap yon bon exkiz pou kominote internasyonal la pa bay 5 kob!

Si teren saa glisse, li glisse pou tout moun! Pou nou pa tombe, fok nou bay la men ak yon ak lot pou nou sa rete kanpe pou Ayiti.
Nou pa espere non plis yon rekonsilyasyon ak peson! Il sifi ke chak group respekte dwa lot dan la disipline e dan lod e reg la jistis.
Aristide fet pou tounnen avek memm privilej ke JCD genyen an.

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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 22:53

Men ki sa brezilyen gentan gen la.koulyè ya yo se enperyalist tou.Se pousa lè ti neg te konn ap pale ameriken mal an ayiti mwen te toujou di yo tout lot pep yo se menm enperyalist la yo vle retire nan men ameriken pou yo ranplase li.Mwen sonje lè mwen te konn ap li Le printemps de prague se bagay saa ki fè mwen pat janm kwen nan oken vye ideyoloji utopik.Jodya se gouvenman swa disan pwogresis o brezil ki pa vle yon sitoyen ayisyen retounen nan peyi li. se sou gouvenman Barack Obama ke pot pawol depatman deta ap di ke yo pa vle Aristide tounen lakay li kom si genyen moun ki ta ka di ke Georges bush pa dwe viv O texas.Men sa ki pi ekeran nan bagay saa se Hillary Clinton ki Sekretè deta zafè etranje o Zeta Zuni jodya.Genyen yon moun ki konn di ke demokrat ak Repibliken se 2 fas menm ipokrizi se pa manti.

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Message  jafrikayiti Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 23:04

Pou ki tout bri?

Pou ki tout panik sa yo? Ata yon ti pè, yo pè!?

Lavi a se yon boul k ap woule, ann kite l woule. De tout fason, kit Jèvilen vle, kit li pa vle, sote ponpe, tout jan, se lanmou ak lapè ki va triyonfe.

Ayiti pou pitit li, pitit Ayiti pou Ayiti!

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Message  revelation Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 23:15

Rozo gen yon seri de dokiman inpotan pou Aristide signen ke li poko fe!!
Gen nan dokiman sa yo ki tre kritikal ki kap mete prezidan nan yon move sitiyasyon.

Signen ke se pa kidnape ke yo te kidnape'l men se fose ke yo te fose'l kap mete kredibilite Aristide nan yon move pozisyon.
Si li fe sa, li te met voye liv memwar li ya jete.

Pou zafe Brezil la!! Li se yon grand pwissans nan zonn nan! E li ap exzese dwa'l, komanse sou Ayiti.
Li kap memm choute deye Cuba ou byen Venezuela si Ameriken mande'l pou fe sa.
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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 23:36

Kidonk lè swa disan revolutyonè pakotiy bresilyen yo te konn ap pale ameriken mal se te plas esklav de mezon an ke yo te vle.Ti tonton boss jwanis lan ou tande se wmen ki te genyen rezon.(lol)

men eske presidan Sud Afriken genyen dwa anpeche Presidan Aristide kite lafrik di sid sil pa vle siyen dokiman sa yo; ki kou ki te kondane presidan Aristide.Se fout ekeran pou wè genyen esklav de mezon sa yo toujou ki ap dirije peyi afriken yo.

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Message  jafrikayiti Mar 15 Fév 2011 - 23:57

Wozo poze tande zanmi! Èske ou verifye koze Revelasyon ap pale la yo?

Anvan ou kouri akize mesye yo, verifye se â koze kredi yo lage nan lari a pou kreye plis konfizyon ak pale anpil tande.

Sila yo ki gen "ti-pè" yo a ann Afrik yo, kè kal, yo konnen jou a pre rive. Poze!


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Message  Amoph Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 9:59

Rekonsilyasyon nasyonal enplikan le retour de tou lè zexzile politik ayisyen sinonIm de stabilite politik an Ayiti.

Se sur la baz de la stabilite politik, nou pral mete devlopman ekonomik, devlopman sosyal, ... chita.

Sè zavanse, ô konbyen pozitiv, pa o goû de nonbreu peyi manbr koalisyon pour okupe Ayiti.

Lokupasyon DAYITI konstitu LA POUL O ZEU DOR pour lè peyi eyan lèur reprezantan o sen de la koalisyon.



A defo rekonsilyasyon nasyonal la, lenstabilite politik konstant pourè fèr la par bèl a la Komunote Entèrnasyonal pou kontinue enpoze enfluans li nan peyi a.

Retour exzile politik yo pou rekonsilye Ayiti afole tout pwisans swa-dizan peyi ami ki te vle mentnu le statu kwo. Divize pou rEnye.

Sè dèrnye tan nou konstate :

Komunote Entèrnasyonal tans gouvèrnman Préval/Bellerive ki pozisyone yo an favèur le retour dè exzile politik ayisyen. Desisyon gouvèrnman ayisyen an " tend à faire de l'ombre à des puissances comme les Etats-Unis, le Brésil, le Canada, la France, ... présentes sur le terrain".

Enterê yo menase !!!

Se sa Komunote Entèrnasyonal konnen, ki fè peyi sa yo, pa vle ARISTIDE tounen !!!


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Message  revelation Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 10:14

Jaf di: Pou ki tout bri?
Pou ki tout panik sa yo? Ata yon ti pè, yo pè!?
Lavi a se yon boul k ap woule, ann kite l woule. De tout fason, kit Jèvilen vle, kit li pa vle, sote ponpe, tout jan, se lanmou ak lapè ki va triyonfe.
Ayiti pou pitit li, pitit Ayiti pou Ayiti!
Repons saa pa gen okenn sibtans nan analiz politik!
Si yo ta mande w Jaf " Sak fe ke Prezidan Aristide an Afrik di Sid??
Se repons saa ke w ta bay?

Le ke w ap pale avek blan, w adresse pwoblem nan tre byen.
W montre par A+B infliyans pwissans etranje kankou les USA, Frans ak Kanada e infliyans klass dominant lan.

Le se avek Ayisyen ke w ap pale, w chita ap di"Lavi a se yon boul k ap woule, ann kite l woule! Ayiti pou pitit li, pitit Ayiti pou Ayiti" yon band rans ak goumbaya, ak pawol folklorik kom si ayisyen pa konprand jeu de fos kap fet yo!

Si w pakab adresse sityasyon an nan yon kontex geopolitik, pa vin tire blag ak istwa afrocentrik sou sije saa pou fe timoun piti domi.

E pi Rozo fe tet w travay avan ke w poze kestyon sa yo sou Brezil. Se intere tet li ke Brezil ap gade!

Amoph! Nou dako avek w. zafe rekonsiliasyon se pawol tribal, souni ak shiit, tutsi ak uotou.etc..

Nan peyi Dayiti, nou tout se Ayisyen e pwoblem nan se yon kestion de rich ak pov!
e bay lanmen, akolad, bel gouyad nan madigra etc. pap rezoud zafe rekonsilyasyon saa.

Se yon kestion de repartisyon richess peyi a pou ke majorite pep defavorize yo sa jwen pa yo tou!

Si pep la jwen travay, lekol, sante, lojman, jistis sosyal, yap kab jwen lajan, ak bel fanm e pran plezi memm jan ak tout moun!!
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Message  Joel Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 10:18

jafrikayiti a écrit:Wozo poze tande zanmi! Èske ou verifye koze Revelasyon ap pale la yo?

Anvan ou kouri akize mesye yo, verifye se â koze kredi yo lage nan lari a pou kreye plis konfizyon ak pale anpil tande.

Sila yo ki gen "ti-pè" yo a ann Afrik yo, kè kal, yo konnen jou a pre rive. Poze!


Kòm toujou JAF ap pale ak tèt poze.
Nèg ap chache brase labou anba lak lan.
Genyen k ap di w ;si ARISTIDE tounen zòt ap touye l.ADYE!
Si ARISTIDE t a tounen ,e yo manyen yon cheve lan tèt li ;zo FRAP ak ansyen militè pa t ap ase pou fè bouton ;mwen garanti n se BREZILYEN yo ki ap bay ARISTIDE pi gwo sekirite ;paske lè w retire tout espwa lan men yon pèp ;li santi li pa gen anyen pou l pèdi ,se veye zo w.

Lòt lan limenm ap di ke ARISTIDE gen papye pou l siyen ;ki papye?
Li gen otorite pou l siyen papye?

Antan nèg ap voye monte ;NEW YORK TIMES menm di lan yon atik ki parèt le 9 FEVRIYE ke PREVAL ap fè ARISTIDE tounen pou l pwoteje tèt li ;NYT di ke misye ap ize popilarite ARISTIDE pou nèg pa manyen l ;pou l sa rete lan peyi l

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Message  revelation Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 12:11

Maximo di: Si nou vle chanje peyi ya fok nou chanje mantalite nou.
Maximo boss papa!!

Montre nou ke mantalite w chanje!!! Komanse pa retire foto sa yo SVP!!

Nap priye w an grace!! Fe sa pou nou! Gen ti moun sou Forum nan tou!
Webmaster a fe sa pou nou! retire foto sa yo SVP!
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Message  Maximo Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 12:19

Fok tout moun o kouran de sa ke ti pè ya te abitwe fè nan peyi ya, nou pa ka vle kache verite ya lè li pa an favè nou. Depi se pa manti map bay, mwen santi mwen a lèz nan mantalite'm, ki chanje depi lontan. Si Marc veut les enlever c'est son droit il a le pouvoir de le faire, mais ce sera encore un acte de " gwo ponyèt" pour cacher la vérité.
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Message  Joel Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 12:57

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Se rans;misye ap fè menm bagay poutchis yo te konn fè pandan koudeta 1991 lan;yo te konn montre kadav moun ki ap boule sou televizyon DAYITI e yo plede ap di ""PLUS JAMAIS""

Kadav sa yo ,se oubyen se te jis apre DIVALYE te kite peyi an ,oubyen imedyatman apre tantativ koudeta LAFONTAN an.

Se pou MARC retire foto yo,paske yo ""misleading"".

Si nou wè ke REV ap korije nou ,sè ke nou depase ""les bornes"" vre ;paske yo pa konnen REV tankou yon moun ki renmen ARISTIDE.

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Message  revelation Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 13:12

Joel di: Si nou wè ke REV ap korije nou ,sè ke nou depase ""les bornes"" vre ;paske yo pa konnen REV tankou yon moun ki renmen ARISTIDE.

Politik pa yon jwet lanmou mon fre Joel!!

Nou ta apresye sa anpil si Webmaster a retire foto sa yo! foto sa yo pa di la verite jan Joel demontre'l la!
Gen plizye lot fason ke yon moun kap di la verite!
Se ni pressyon, ni gwo ponyet!! Se yon demand ki rezonnab e honet!!
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Message  Maximo Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 13:15

Joel a écrit:RÈV;

Se rans;misye ap fè menm bagay poutchis yo te konn fè pandan koudeta 1991 lan;yo te konn montre kadav moun ki ap boule sou televizyon DAYITI e yo plede ap di ""PLUS JAMAIS""

Kadav sa yo ,se oubyen se te jis apre DIVALYE te kite peyi an ,oubyen imedyatman apre tantativ koudeta LAFONTAN an.

Se pou MARC retire foto yo,paske yo ""misleading"".

Si nou wè ke REV ap korije nou ,sè ke nou depase ""les bornes"" vre ;paske yo pa konnen REV tankou yon moun ki renmen ARISTIDE.

Mwen te mete lyen nan 1er post mwen fè ya pou nou te ka wè sous foto e ki kadav li ye, se kadav Sylvio Claude ke Jean-Baptiste te fè boule sou prezidans Jean-Bertrand Aristide, e Aristide te bali gwo post nan la polis an remèsimean de sèvis byen randu. Nou mèt vle demake nou pakapad les faits sont là, les images sont restées graver à jamais. Sylvio Claude pase an ba men JCD li pa janm touye'l men gwan kriminèl notwa nou an pa jwe ak jounalis, se pa de li pa touye, Lindor, Jean Dominique, ect...


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Message  Invité Mer 16 Fév 2011 - 13:21

min minme mwen di kakatwe sa pa ginyen green lan bouda li pou li tounin. yap voye li ale join ketan .
pa ginyen moun ki te di misie tounin machan dwog.

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Message  revelation Lun 21 Fév 2011 - 11:42

Pral gen preske 2 semen depi ke gouvenman Ayisyen a traver Marie-Michèle Rey, the Haitian Minister of Foreign Affairs voye yon passpo an Afrik di Sid bay Prezidan Aristide pou’l antre lakay li.
Nou kontakte ambassad Afrik di Sid la pou yo banou nouvel sou retou saa. Yo di ke Aristide ak tout Fanmi’l gen passpo, men ka sa espesyal e passpo pa sifi.

Gen yon zafe de “formalite protokoler” ant Ayiti e peyi donater yo (USA, Frans, Kanada) an patikilye ki pou koordone retou saa.

Biwo affer etranjer Ayisyen di ke a penn ke yo finn pran desizyon pou bay Aristide passpo saa gen yon dlo fret ki tombe sou yo e yo pe kankou sourit le US Depatman Deta Ameriken a traver State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley kite bay yon konferans de press 9 Fevrye ki sot passe la kote lidi ke li pa okouran voyaj prezidan Aristide e ke gouvenman Ameriken ta rayi we yon bagay konsa fet

“The United States "would hate to see" any action that introduces divisiveness into the election process. If former president Aristide returns to Haiti before the election, it would prove to be an unfortunate distraction"

Pep Ayisyen dwe pran tan yo e konsantre yo pou evalye 2 kandida sa yo Manigat e Martelly.
"The people of Haiti should be evaluating the two candidates that will participate in the runoff, and that I think that should be their focus."

Nou kap we klereman e depi toutan ke se pa passpo ki pwoblem retou Aristide!
Memm jan ke yo te voye’l an exil, retou li depand de memm akter sa yo.
Li gen dwa pran chans retounen nan peyi’l e madam ak piti li yo pran chemin USA si yo vle.
Sepandan, kelkeswa desizyon ke Aristide pran, se ap desizyon pa’l.

Nou ta prefere ke Aristide tounnen avan ke eleksyon 20 Mars la fet e pandan ke Lavalas ap manifeste sipo yo pou retou sa e pou'l sa benefisye memm sitiyasyon JC Duvalier sa.
Paske apre eleksyon sa ke se Manigat ou Martelly ki monte kom prezidan, yo yonn pa ta renmen we Aristide tounnen sou gouvenman yo a.
Aristide ak Lavalas kap dekapote nenpot gouvenman ki monte.
Men san prezans Aristide sou terren an, Lavalas pa gen fos! e 7 anne ki sot passe laa montre sa.

Plis jou ap rapwoche de eleksyon yo se mwen chans pou retou sa fet.
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