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Haiti must help itself first. Ed twa e le syèl tedra.

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Message  Sasaye Dim 14 Juin 2009 - 20:00

Haiti must help itself first
June 14, 2009
While I can sympathize with the plight of the Haitians, the letter, "Haitians deserve TPS," does not mention the real problem that has brought the country to its present state.

This is not a temporary economic situation in Haiti. The island has doubled its population in the past 40 years, and will more than double it again in the next 40 years. Many people living there today in destitute poverty are still having six and eight children they cannot support, educate, house or properly feed. They have been depending on outside aid to feed and police Haiti long before the past hurricane season.

The Haitians are outgrowing their island at a terrible pace. Will the world triple the aid when the population doubles again? When will Haiti educate its people about birth control and limiting the size of its families? This is what is necessary so their children's quality of life can become better.

Beatrice LeVan, Wellington
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Message  dilibon Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 12:03

A simple idea! When reporting what others say about Haiti it would be good or even necessary to have a brief on the author so we do not waste time and Forumhaiti real estate in beating drums with no resonance!

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Message  Sasaye Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 12:21

It is good idea, however in this case, we are pointing out an ideoloji that we have been promoting on this site, that of the reduction of Haiti's demographic overgrowth.

This is from a blog where the idea itself is, perhaps, more important than the person who wrote it.

Similarly, your post from Emmanuelle Gilles.
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Message  dilibon Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 12:58

Sasaye,

In this case it would be better if you would put a short explanation of the purpose of the referral. The Emmanuel Gilles' opinion failed in line with the view I was supporting in this forum. I did not mean to attack either you or the blogger. Now I do understand your point.

Reducing Haiti's birth rates should be part of the whole national political, economic and social vision and forward planning. It is obvious that American birth rates will drastically increase with the current economic and social mutations. American families are trusting their children with complete strangers instead of having them as homeless with them in dangerous shelters. Recently, we have seen the emergence of cardboard towns, shanty towns or plastic towns in many downtown areas in major metropolitan cities in the US. As you can realize everything is interconnected with economic realities. Our peasants continue to see having children as a main condition to create wealth by having more helping hands. To convince them to have less children would require measures to assist them in cultivating their agricultural products. A working society has less time allocating to procreate and to take care of many children, and the reverse is also true. Now, for some people to prescribe to Haitian families to reduce the birth rates without accompanying economic and social positives changes remain a fallacy!

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Message  Sasaye Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 13:18

There is no doubt that overpopulation is associated with the economic situation.
It is true that the peasant sees an abundant progeny as extra help and an insurance policy.
This contributes to overpopulation to one large extent.

However a large portion of the population is procreating because they are not aware of the consequences of their sexual interaction: The innocent and uninformed girl, the machoman who refuses to use protection from disease and unwanted birth, the husband who doesn't believe in birth control and a long list of other causes which could be prevented by campaigns of sensibilisation and educational programs.

This is a complicated issue, but one must start somewhere, with even the easiest option to be improved along the way.
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Message  revelation Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 13:30

Beatrice LeVan, Wellington said: The Haitians are outgrowing their island at a terrible pace. Will the world triple the aid when the population doubles again? When will Haiti educate its people about birth control and limiting the size of its families? This is what is necessary so their children's quality of life can become better.
Yes Haiti must help itself first and this is exactly what we are doing by starting with the most needed, the working force who is getting the equivalent of $2.00 a day for 10 hours work from sweatshop owners.

Mrs. Wellington talked about birth control. We do have birth control in Haiti. There is a large distribution of condom/capote as birth control as well as for venereal disease and HIV/AID.

We have 2 major problems!
First the majorities of black men do not like to wear condom.
Second, the majorities of our women are malnourished and cannot tolerate the pills. They forget to take them, and get sick most of the time when they do.

In addition, for religious belief, the international community does not provide assistance for birth control pills, nor sterilization.
They think that it is inhuman and that will encourage unlimited and unsupervised sexual activities amongst teenagers and not so young.
They prefer to give more money for condoms which have double benefits, unwanted birth control prevention as well as for venereal disease and HIV/AID.

Kom m'di avan, se aktivite sexuel ki fe ke timoun fet. Se pa sou pye bwa ke yo donnnen!!

Si Leta mande pou tout famm ki vinn akouche l'hopital pou yo deklare nom ak prenom papa timoun sa yo.
E si Leta monte yon system ki pou jwen papa timoun sa yo e fe de mwayen pou yo okipe timoun sa yo.
Swa retire lajan nan saler yo ou byen mete yo nan prizon pou mank de responsabilite sosyal.

Popilasyon peyi d'Ayiti tap diminye o fi e a mezi ke lwa yo aplike kom sa dwa.

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Message  dilibon Lun 15 Juin 2009 - 14:39

However a large portion of the population is procreating because they are not aware of the consequences of their sexual interaction: The innocent and uninformed girl, the macho man who refuses to use protection from disease and unwanted birth, the husband who doesn't believe in birth control and a long list of other causes which could be prevented by campaigns of sensibilisation and educational programs.

I may be wrong but I still have clear memories of vast stabilization campaign through many medium with well recognized names such as Fanny and Ti Djo promoting family planning in Haiti. Schools, health centers and other venues were used to educate the population about birth control. My point remains stable; we have to develop an integrated approach to such issues where we would go to the root causes for sustainable solutions. It is clear that educated people sexually informed have smaller family size than less educated ones. Workers have less time to devote to procreation.

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