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Haitian Bahamian communities still reeling after Immigration raid



Published On:Tuesday, September 15, 2009

By MEGAN REYNOLDS

Tribune Staff Reporter

mreynolds@tribunemedia.net

HAITIAN Bahamian communities in Abaco's overcrowded shanty towns are still reeling six weeks after the Immigration Department allegedly used violence as they tore families apart in a large-scale apprehension exercise.

Residents of the Mud and Pigeon Peas in the heart of Marsh Harbour said Immigration and Royal Bahamas Defence Force (RBDF) officers carried cutlasses, threatened children with guns and used violence as they detained at least 165 Haitians of all ages and separated them from their families at around 4am on July 30.

Sources in the Mud, home to thousands of Haitians and Haitian Bahamians, told The Tribune how children were left behind as their parents were detained and then sent to Haiti, and Bahamians born of Haitian parents were forced to bid farewell to relatives and friends, some of whom had lived in the Bahamas for decades.

Anxiety and a solemn mood has since taken hold of the community which can only hope for better treatment in future.

A 30-year-old Haitian man who moved to the Bahamas 15 years ago, and lives in the Mud, said officers threatened children as young as five at gunpoint and ordered them to divulge their parents' whereabouts.

They knocked down doors and commanded men and women to come out of their homes without allowing them to dress before they were detained, he said.

And the man, who asked to remain anonymous, said he knows of a two-year-old child and an eight-year-old boy whose parents were sent to Haiti while they remain in the care of relatives or friends in the Mud.

He said: "Little kids were left here while their parents were sent back home. There is boy, eight or nine, who is staying with a friend of mine, and a little baby, two years old, whose parents were taken during the raid.

"They were very hard this time. They beat people, hitting them in the face so they are bleeding. They took money, so if they had $1,000 in their pocket they would maybe give them $50 and keep the rest. If they found food or drink in their homes they took it. They took everything.

"There was one man who came out in his boxer shorts and they didn't let him take anything, they just took him like that."

Haitian Bahamians, born in the Bahamas to Haitian parents, are angry about the way their parents, relatives and friends were treated in the raids at Sand Banks, near Treasure Cay, and the Mud and Pigeon Peas in Marsh Harbour.

They were among the crowd which swarmed the Immigration Department, across the street from the Mud, to take food and documents to those who were about to be sent back to Haiti on the morning after the raid, while employers lined up to present work permits to Immigration authorities.

The Tribune's source, who was taken to Nassau from Port-de-Paix, north west Haiti, at just 15, said he has held ten work permits since moving to the Bahamas.

But in order to obtain a new work permit he would need to return to Haiti to obtain a doctor's certificate and police certificate for the Immigration Department.

He said: "People who have their Bahamian passports or work permits feel they can sleep at night, but otherwise you are always glancing over your shoulder to see what's going on.

"The raids are becoming more frequent, and more violent.

"I don't like how they treat the people, the way they break down your door - they don't even wait for you to answer. I don't feel good there."

An Abaco employer who spoke to The Tribune on the condition of anonymity, criticised the application process for Haitian migrants he wants to hire.

The employer submitted a work permit application for a 35-year-old man who returned to Haiti in April, and is still waiting for his medical and police records to be approved by the Immigration Department so he can return to Marsh Harbour and start work.

He said: "Every time they switch jobs they have to go back to Haiti, but they only need to fulfill the same criteria they needed for the previous work permit.

"The government needs to have a clear guideline that tells you how eligible (an applicant) may be, taking into consideration whether they have had a work permit before or not.

"It's ridiculous that we are doing the right thing by applying for the permit for this guy, and he is down there starving."

Director of Immigration Jack Thompson said the Department is looking into ways of speeding up the application process, but must also ensure applicants are in good health and are not a threat to community safety before they allow them to live and work in the Bahamas.

He said the raids always provoke reaction and while they are appreciated by some, they are condemned by others.

Mr Thompson maintains the raid was carried out properly and the allegation of officers wielding cutlasses is "absurd".

He added: "Children should not be left behind and if that happened I don't know how it happened.

"I know there is a degree of anger, pain and disgust out there, but that should not happen. That's against everything we stand for.

"When we go in we deal with the whole family and work with them as a group. It makes no sense to take the mother and father and leave a child, I don't know what's happened but the people involved should step forward."

Mwin menm mwin ta mande kote oganizasyon tett chatt dwa de lom yo kote vwa restavek LONI pou li pwoteste kontt abi sa yo ki menmjan ak sa kap passe lan bateys sindoming yo .Eske bagay sayo pa konsidere kom abi le san terin anglo-saxonn ke sa ap passe paske mwin konen si sete sindomin tbagay sa a te rive tout plim tap leve sou do patriot yo .Yo tap pwan di feu vole anler pou di gade sa dominikin yo ap fe fre ak ser nou yo .Vengeance ! Yo pagin dwa kraze pot kay nou menmsi nou la san papye menmsi nou pagin dwa la kote nou ye a .

Boycotons les iles Bahamas ! An nou montre yo grenn la ak po a saki pi pike.

deza a écrit:Mwin menm mwin ta mande kote oganizasyon tett chatt dwa de lom yo kote vwa restavek LONI pou li pwoteste kontt abi sa yo ki menmjan ak sa kap passe lan bateys sindoming yo .Eske bagay sayo pa konsidere kom abi le san terin anglo-saxonn ke sa ap passe paske mwin konen si sete sindomin tbagay sa a te rive tout plim tap leve sou do patriot yo .Yo tap pwan di feu vole anler pou di gade sa dominikin yo ap fe fre ak ser nou yo .Vengeance ! Yo pagin dwa kraze pot kay nou menmsi nou la san papye menmsi nou pagin dwa la kote nou ye a .

Boycotons les iles Bahamas ! An nou montre yo grenn la ak po a saki pi pike.

sa fem mal lè mwen wè moun Nassau rayi nou. Dominiken gendwa rayi nou paske nou oqp peyi yoo...

men bahamas ??

Antouka mwin pito dominikani pou nou passe mize .Imagine ke nap passe mize lan ti zilet kote restavek la france ap viv .Non non .Nou pataka vle domestik ...restavek la France oubyen sapa di dirijan nou yo anyen anko pou sonje pwomess pe de la patri nou yo te fe a ?

Zanmi Maximo,
Bagay sayo banm tett fe mal serye .Li fe yon nonm poze tett ou kessyon ke li pat dwe janm lan sityasion pou 'l poze .Se vre wi .Poukisa pou nal koupe kann kay Franseu apwe nou fin deklare ke sepou nou ekstemine yo se enemi nou ke yo ye ? Depi sou sa nou te dwe we ke politisyen nou yo se sou bloff yo ye seoa peyi ki lan tett yo .
Sa 1803 vle di jodya le tout dirijan nou yo mete tett yo ansanm pou bagay sayo rive ? Epi w tande ke nou fye .Mon oeil !

Le problème c'est que l'haïtien ne veut pas couper la canne chez lui..

Min bagay pou patriot pale min bagay sayo pa interese yo : Loin des yeux loin du coeur .Je crois que les "sans voix" ne sont pas les va-nu-pieds d'un "lumpen proleteriat " du banditisjme social qui hurlent le nom d'un puissant chef de gang en exil a travers nos rues remplies de fatras et reclament son retour .C'est plutot cette majorite d'hommes ,de femmes et d'enfants qui ont ete force de chercher refuge en terre etrangere hostile pour subvenir aux besoins de leur famille .

Pourquoi nos necessiteux de l'opportunisme anarchique ne trouvent ils pas le courage de hurler pour le retourr de ces compatriotes qui revent eux aussi du retour au bercail car ils sont les vrais innocents ,les exploites sacrifies sur les autels de la corruption de nos politiques ? Ah.Les seigneurs de la guerre ne l'ont pas encore decide car ,a ces gens travailleurs et sociables, on ne peut ordonner de tout casser et briser au nom du chantage social .
Qui est-ce qui va dire ,kiles kap gin grenn pou di yon jou tankou jodya :
Haitiens de Nassau, haitiens de la Guadeloupe, haitiens de Lamartinique ,haitiens de caco islands et des iles Turquss ,haitiens des iles vierges, haitiens de la dominicanie ,il est de temps de rentrer chez vous .L'exil a pris fin .Nous allons construire un pays ensemble .

T-NEG SEPA VRE NON !Peye yo sayo peye yo an dominikani a wap e si yo pap rete pou koupe kann lakay . Poblem lan tou seke gouvenman iresponsab nou yoo kite yo fe yon kout kreyon sou ekonomi ayisyen an ke w pa tap janm we lan lot peyi oganize .Yo kite bernard Mews pran Hasco fe chwerav li avek li femyn li ( pres de 4000 travaye vinn chome)epi li komande sik a letranje ki vinn pi bon mache pou li passe li anplaye moun.Bagay sa a sete yon konbinezon byen monte pou fe nou vin depandan menm pou sil lan peyi a .Pagin moun kap veye intere peyi a a court et a long terme .Sesakfe w gin tout dislokasyon sosyal sa yo ke nap viv la jounyn jodya ak tout konsekanss yo.

ARRETEZ S IL VOUS PLAIT ARRETEZ VOUS VOUS ENTERREZ TOUS SEULS

POURQUOI:vous n etes pas des sous hommes au contrairevous etes des hommes biens pas feneants pour deux sous.ca me revolte quand je vous entend
j ai un beauf gouadeloupeen il ne vous ressemble pas
portrait d un gwada :un feneant qui fait travailler les haitiens ,les chinois,les metros .il est comander par les (bekes)descendants de blancs nobles(esclavagistes) il attend le salaire minimum ,les allocations familialles ,enfin toutes sortes de choses qui n existe pas en haiti hopital et medicaments gratuits et a la fin de tout ca une retraite non justifiee
les martiniquais pareil ,reunion pareil ,guyane pire j y suis aller mon dieu je sui aller a balata petit village ,banlieue de cayenne que des (haitiens)ils ont tous leur petite maison qu ils ont construit tout seuls
quand un guyanais veux becher son jardin il appel un haitien car il dit que c est la seule personne qui travail dans les champs de6h du matin a 6h du soir une personne pas trop bien habillee ils disent
pffffff ti haitien alors que s ils se regardent bien ils sont a moitie en guenilles pour certains
quand j ai entendu ca je me suis dis pauvre mec c.o.n
si on leur coupait les vivres a tous ceux la vous leur seriez largement superieurs.surtout moralement ils sont incorects ils puent la betise
ne les prenez pas comme exemple c est pas bon ha j ai oublier ca roule en 4x4 et ca parrade dans les rues comme un cocq dans une basse cour
alors s il vous plait valorisez vous d avantage ,sans honte
AMITIES

Revelasyon,

Ou kouri sou bagay yo san konpwann. Mwen te ka sigjere w le youn moun bay youn opinion si ou pa finn konprann tout dinamik sal di'a pou w ta devlope sajes pou w ta mande plis eksplikasyon!

Deza pale de ekzil ou menm nan konprenyansyon lekzil se lekzil politik selman san menm eseye konpwnan ke genyen ekzil ekonomik tou! Le ou di "Majorite ayisyen kap viv nan peyi blan pa la paske yo pran l’exil.Se a la rechech de yon travay, necessite e yon vie myo ki voye yo lot bo dlo!! Fok yo manje, fok yo voye pitit yo al lekol, fok yo bati yon vye kay pou le key o granmoun pou yo vinn lague vye zo yo."

Men, e si yo ta we ke yo kapab, apre youn tan deyo, ak timoyen ki nan men yo, devlope, kreye kondisyon ki ka fe yo fe sa lakay yo. Pwan ekzanp, irakyen yo, apre Saddam, malgre pwoblem ki genyen toujou, kouri rantre ak ranje kote no Irak, e bati biznis a trave peyi a pendan ke bonb ak bal ap pase sou tet yo.

Pwan ekzanp, dominiken, chak fwa yo genyen 5 mil dola ameriekn vet nan men yo, deklare ke blan pwan youn kout bwa nan ponyet, yo retounen nan zonn lakay yo ap kanpe youn ti biznis. Yo fe ale retou ant konstriksyon lakay yo e vinn fe lajan isit. An nou pwan kek lot kominote ki oganize ti granmoun pensyone Ozetazini e ankouraje yo al depanse pensoyn yo lakay yo nan kominote espesyal pou peyi yo ka rantre lajan. Ou pa ka pense deyo bwat tradisyonel la pendan ke ou kwe modicus ke ou se oyun bibliotek anbilant!

Eske nou ka di vreman ke diaspora se trip pep aysien an an vre? men wout tradisyonel la, Aysien voye lajan bay fanmi yo - Fanmi yo depanse lajan an nan pwodwi ki soti deyo sitou Ozetazini ak lto kote - lajan tounen menm kote li soti a anko! Eske nou pa ap ta ka chanje sikilasyon sa'a nan kanpe biznis andedan pei ki ka ofri plis byen ak sevis? Eske nou pa ta fe rantre soti nou nan peyi a pi efektif e pi efikas pou chanje done ekonomik andedan peyi'a?

Ou monte okreno pou w kalifue Deza de "rasis ak intelek iresponsab" sou ki baz ou di sa? Le plisouvan moun ki genyen matye griz nan sevo yo pa voye pawol nan le, pa voye jilbret, ni pawol fatra mele ak tafye, dim sou ki sa ou chita, slon definisyon rasis ak iresponsabilite ke Deza se epitet ou itilize la yo?

Ou di ak anpil fanfa kakofonik "Le etranje ap traverse fontye, antre vinn pran job nan peyi d’Ayiti, se le sa ayisyen lot bo dlo a konprand ke gen kichoy nan peyi a. Nan nivo professional, gen anpil Diaspora konpetan ki antre vinn frappe kônn yo e fe konpetition ak etranje blan, malgre diplom e experyans yo tineg lakay pa fe yo konfyans!"

Monshe si se jis kaske youn mirak pase pou genyen travay pou etranje ap kouri Ayiti wap genyen konfyans ak konsyans pou w tounen, fok ou achte anpil manto ki mashe ak kouran toujou! Map diw al kanpe nan aeropo gade moun kap soti Ayit wap remake sou chak 5 moun ki soti genyen 3 etranje ki soti Ayiti. Lap rive youn le moun tankou w pap ka achte youn moso te Ayiti.

Ayiti vid sak anpeshe nou plante kann lakay nou?

Sak anpeshe nou sevi ak paket kakao ki nan Damari?

Sak anpeshe nou devlopoe ak paket konesans nou genyen deyo lagrikilti, agroendistri touris ak latriye lakay, kote sak genyen finans, kapital ak konesans ka mete ak fos travay moun lakay?

Ou di tout moun anvi rantre lakay yo, mwen di se menti!

Mwen di menti kareman, paske genyen aysien ki gade, ki bloke eksperyans yo le yo te an Ayiti, ki ap benyen nan ilisyion de El Dorado ameriken, kanadyen ak lot kote ki di mod kote konsa yo fini ak li!

Genyen ayisien ki semante ke yo pa ptounen nan al nan tatrinn an bwa anko, yo pap pwal mete pye yo nan labou, yo pa vle we fatra, yo pap tounen nan bidonvil la anko. Yo pa we se yo ki pou tounen ajan chanjman, se yo ki ka tounen medikaman pou manman nou ki nan koma, men yo kondane malad ki ap vle leve pou kont li alo se yo ki ta dwe dokte ak enfimye malad la!

Ou di ak anpil enkonpetans nan refleksyon rasyonel: "Tout moun anvi rantre lakay yo!! Men le yon moun rantre lakay san job pou amou peyi’l se yon suicid e an memm tan yon homicid paske se sou konsey neg intelektyel je klere kankou ki voye’l al mouri e fok yo ta rele w devan tribinal paske konesans w tro eleve pou inflyanse yo malere al jete tet li san reflechi."

La anko map mandew ak anpil respe pou w retire tet ou nan fant janm ou pou w ka we soley la. Si ou pense soley la pa leve se paske sevo nan fe nwa ignorans ou men soley la la, louvri je'w zanmi. Mwen rantre lakay pa genyen moun kite banm travay non, mwen kreye travay mwen. Mwen investi mwen ap travay pendan mwen bay lot moun travay. Moun pa repatriye pou al tounen oyun chaj pou peyi a men pou yo ka tounen youn "asset" pou peyi'a. Se la wi ou nan obskirite a.

Tounen an Ayiti, menm jan ak iranyen yo, menm jan ak jamayken, kap monte desann kap investi lakay yo, pa dwe youn swisid si nou pap pwal fe lign nan palais nasyonal ak nan ministe ak vye CV net anba deye job leta toujou! Mwen pa twouve ke ou toujou mechan nan refleksyon w non, men mwen remake ke ou manke sajes pou w checeh konnen saw pa finn konpwann e mwen pense ke li ta bon siw ta tande plis ke monte okreno san pantalon refleksyon lojik konsa vinn fe tet ou wont konsa!

Lontan mwin te konpwan ke revelasyon ak kek kopin li yo se franseu ouswa kreyol ke yo pat sezi byen .Min le mwin refleshi anpil mwin we ke se strikti mantal yo ki pa bon .Sesakfe dialog la difisil konsa a .Sekomsi yon nonm lan klass filozofi ap eseye esplike yon ti elev ak mantalite klass douzyem kijan pou li konpwan tout lide ki deye konsep" konessans et aksyon" an filozofi .Pagin baz pagin konpwan kelkeswa saou fe .

Sa fe'm mal pou'm di li min gin yon seri de etap intelektyel depi w pwan li avek rate analfabet pa bet yo se jilbrett yo tonbe voye se pye yap voye tribo babor tankou bourik .Yo kouri kite sije a radote de sesi de sela adwat agosh paske yo paka fe diferanss lan nyanss sakap di yo yo pa konpwan karakteristik sije a . Mwin oblije reziyen mwin ak prezanss mediokrite sou forum nan paske se langaj lwa lavalass la ke yo pale selman .Toutsa ki pa di se lavalass nou ye se anle tett yo ke sa passe .Anfin .

Parfois je pense que c'est une erreur grave d'avoir montre a lire a des individus qui sont incapables de comprendre que l'enseignement des premiers rudiments de la connaissance est une invitation a poursuivre des etudes superieures a celles de l'initiation initiale .Voila de quoi sont faits nos dangereux demagogues de la revolution sans vision et sans les moyens de leur politique .

Deza,

Se pa fot yo! Non selman ekikasyon lakay la manke anpil pou prepare sitwayen ki ka fe devlopman soutenab, men anpil nan oy refize kesyone menm sa yo te aprann pou sevi ak zouti yo te genyen pou fe lesiv nan sevo yo!

Kite mwen baw youn eksperyans mwen an Ayiti. Nou reyalize ke teksti peyi nou tap viv, konjonkti nou tap viv la telman chanje jodya, kote anpil ti konesans nou te konn pwan nan katye lakay nou, nan mitan zanmi laj nou ak de moun ki pi gran pase nou swa nan jwe sek, fe lako kashe ou deli, jwe domino, football, bezik, li liv coboy, li roman foti, fe bel ekip jenn gason ki pwal file bel ti fanm swa sou katye ou lot katye, pale franse ou panyol, ekri poezi pou ti menaj nou, file fnam kap diw "Dilibon mwen konnen ke ou renmen mwen ou te dim sa deja, men dim koman ou renmen mwen" Ah le sa se mete gason sou ou pou w depase Cyrano de Bergerac!

Genyen neg ki pat janm konn soti nan bouhaha politik lakay, neg yo vinn genyen premye ti menaj yo nan peyi etranje kote koutim nan le ou rankontre youn dam, men konvesasyon an:

Gason:i "Hey, hey shorty, yo, yo, college girl! I am calling you!"

ti dam nan "Yeah, here I am"

Nan peyi Dayiti lontan pou youn neg ta rele youn fnam konsa pou li ta tounen?

Gason an "When can we get together?"

ti dam nan: "I will be at my aunt's"

Gason: "What are you doing tomorrow?"

ti dam nan "busy with my mom"
Gason an: "What about friday after school. I am have a pijama party at my body's place?"

ti dam nan "Ok"

Gason an: "let me have your number"

ti dam nan: "347-123-3489

Gason an "See ya"

An Ayiti, nou reyalize ke timoun jodya jwenn youn move deal, yo genyen youn men kat nan men yo ki pedi davans. Sa nou fe les vendredi, nou fe li tounen youn jounen pou diferan klib kontre, kote timoun aprann jwe tcheke, tcheke chinwa, aprann danse dans lokal ou byen latino, jwe bezik, ale nan klas sou savwa viv ak etiket, ak anpil lot aktivite tankou deba etc...

Youn ekspe nan edikasyon nasyonal di epa se youn sityasyon karotik mwen we la, nou eksplike li ke timoun yo pa genyen sekirite pou yo sosyalize nan katye lakay yo, lekol la pou bay timoun nan youn aspe nan sal pedi le nou te jenn. Msie di men pa genyen okenn lekol ki fe sa, mwen di men pa genyen okenn lekol ki ap desevi timoun yo pou yo tounen sitwayen ki pwal ede peyi yo, ou pa we jan peyi a ye tou. Msie di mwen pa konen koman poum evalye pwogram sa'a, nou di li pwiske nou fini ak pwogram edikasyon nasyonal la ou ka jis pense saw vle!

Msie pat ka konprann ke edikasyon se bay timoun zouti pou li vini fanm ak gason solid, se ap youn eksyon de resite pa ke "l'histoire du monde est le recit veridique... tous les peuples ont leur histoire d'Haiti, la notre s'appelle histoire generale" Se konsa enpe timoun te konn resite olye pou yo di chak kote genyen istwa pa yo pa nou an se istwa dayiti.

Edikasyon pa aprann pa ke bagay ou pa konprann pou wal resite e bliye apre chak klas san okenn referans ak itilite sa wap aprann nan sou lavi'w! Se sak fe mwen toujou di montre youn moun li se byen, men montre moun nan li san referans se pi mal ou ka fe youn moun paske li pense li konnen san menm reyalize ke pesonn pa janm konnen, ou byen youn moun konnen se le li konnen li poko konnen anyen. Nan mond nou an lavi se youn etenel aprantisaj, rechech konesans ki ka ede nou vanse!

Men Bondye gende vyann ki jis pap janm ka pran koule menm si ou mete roukou ladan li!

Men Bondye gende vyann ki jis pap janm ka pran koule menm si ou mete roukou ladan li!

sa a se vre !

HAÏTIENS
levez le nez du guidon
lorsque l on quitte l école on continue a apprendre,aujourd'hui je me pose d autres questions
pourquoi le monde va mal,pourquoi haiti est a plat et la France dans pas longtemps
voici une réponse:ceux qui vous ont aides,et vos,nos bourreaux
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