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HAITI-CHOLERA: Verite a Deyo!!Se Solda Nepalen MINUSTAH Yo! Cdchaitichol A tanker truck deposits excrements from the Nepali UN base in an area 400 meters away from the base in Mirebalais, Haiti, Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2010. U.N. investigators took samples of foul-smelling waste flowing behind a Nepalese peacekeeping base toward an infected river system on Wednesday, following persistent accusations that excrement from the newly arrived unit caused the epidemic that has sickened more than 4,000 people in the earthquake-ravaged nation. (AP Photo/Ramon Espinosa)
The dump site is the responsibility of contractor Sanco Enterprises SA, which runs it under the authority of the local government.
Sanco official Marguerite Jean-Louis said procedures for handling the waste were established by the U.N. and a previous contractor, not her company
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CDC says Haiti cholera outbreak matches South Asian strain, putting more scrutiny on UN base
By Jonathan M. Katz (CP) – 2 hours ago
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — A cholera outbreak that has killed more than 300 people in Haiti matches strains commonly found in South Asia, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday.

The finding intensifies scrutiny on a U.N. base above a tributary to the Artibonite River that is home to a contingent of recently arrived peacekeepers from Nepal, a South Asian country where cholera is endemic and which saw outbreaks this summer.

It is also a significant step toward answering one of the most important questions about the burgeoning epidemic: How did cholera, a disease never confirmed to have existed in Haiti, suddenly erupt in the vulnerable country's rural centre?

Speculation among Haitians has increasingly focused on the U.N. base. The outbreak began among people who live downstream from where the tributary meets the Artibonite and drank from the river. On Friday, hundreds of protesters marched from the nearby city of Mirebalais to demand the Nepalese peacekeepers be sent home.
The Associated Press found questionable sanitation conditions in an unannounced visit to the base last week and an exclusive tour of the facility given by peacekeepers Sunday. The U.N. defends its sanitation practices and has repeatedly denied it was a source of the infection. The peacekeeping mission said officials were looking into the matter Monday following the announcement.

CDC researchers identified the strain by analyzing DNA patterns that can be compared with those from other regions of the world using a method of "DNA fingerprinting" called pulsed field gel electrophoresis. The samples were taken from cholera patients, and the results were released to the press Monday after first being given to Haitian health authorities.

South Asia refers to the area around the Indian subcontinent — India, Pakistan and other countries including Nepal, Dr. Christopher Braden at the CDC said.

The finding does not identify the source of the disease or say how it arrived in Haiti, but it eliminates other possibilities including a hypothesis that the strain might be related to a 1990s South American outbreak, Braden said. He said the strain was "fairly common."

Researchers said global travel and trade provide "many opportunities for infectious diseases such as cholera to spread."

"That's all we can say at this point, and we'll know more as more research is done," Braden added.
The outbreak is spreading across Haiti, its transmission eased by a lack of immunity among the population. A confirmed case of cholera had never been detected in Haiti before the current outbreak, said Claire-Lise Chaignat, head of the World Health Organization's global task force on cholera control.

Cholera bacteria spread when people consume water or food contaminated with feces that contain the disease. Twelve days after it was first reported in Haiti, it had killed at least 337 people and hospitalized more than 4,700.

The epidemic has impeded aid workers' ability to prepare for Tropical Storm Tomas, which is expected to strike Haiti later in the week as a hurricane. Aid workers are concerned that floods could spread the disease further.

Suspicions about the base were seized upon by politicians who oppose the 12,000-member U.N. mission, which has been the dominant security force in Haiti since it arrived after the 2004 ouster of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. Among the politicians are the mayor of Mirebalais, who is running for Senate in the planned Nov. 28 election.

So far there has been little formal effort to find exactly where and how the bacteria entered Haiti's water and food supply. The CDC has not sent a team to the area around the base or tested environmental samples.

The only known testing around the base has been carried out by the U.N. During AP's visit to the base last week, reporters found U.N. investigators taking liquid samples. Those tests, aimed at determining if runoff around the base is infected with cholera, will not be completed for several more days, U.N. mission spokesman Vincenzo Pugliese said.

Pugliese said peacekeepers would welcome an independent investigation — but not at the base itself, where officers are concerned about operational security.

He said the U.N. wants to avoid "accusatory finger-pointing ... completely based on speculation that could really harm the reputation of our Nepalese here."

The AP visited the base last Wednesday to follow up on a statement by the mission that its sanitation measures met U.S. and U.N. standards. The area between the base and the river reeked of human waste.
Several pipes were leaking, including a broken plastic pipe emitting a foul-smelling black liquid near what the soldiers identified as latrines.

The dump site for the waste was a few hundred yards (meters) away in shallow, shovel-dug pits, next to several homes. Neighbors said the pits often overflow and run to the river, and they stopped drinking from the river and sought fresh water uphill.
The AP returned Sunday for a tour with U.N. officials, who acknowledged the facility had undergone a cleanup since then: Septic tanks were emptied, a drainage canal was cleared and the leaky pipe was replaced.
The smell of excrement was mostly gone.

Aboveground pipes ran from latrines to a septic tank across a drainage canal that flows to the river. One of the pipes had been repaired. At the bottom of the canal was an area of putrid brown material surrounded by flies that Pugliese said looked like human waste. He said it was not from the base.

Pugliese said the dump site is the responsibility of contractor Sanco Enterprises SA, which runs it under the authority of the local government.
Sanco official Marguerite Jean-Louis said procedures for handling the waste were established by the U.N. and a previous contractor, not her company.
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Associated Press reporter Michael Stobbe in Atlanta contributed to this article.

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HAITI-CHOLERA: Verite a Deyo!!Se Solda Nepalen MINUSTAH Yo! Cdchaitichol
Konpagni Ayisyen yo pa wont ap jete dlo KK Nepalen yo nan rivye l'Artibonite la pou kontaminé moun, zannomo, e anvironman!!
Pugliese said the dump site is the responsibility of contractor Sanco Enterprises SA, which runs it under the authority of the local government. Sanco official Marguerite Jean-Louissaid procedures for handling the waste were established by the U.N. and a previous contractor, not her company.
O fi e a mezi, verite a ap soti deyo!! Fok investigasyon an kontinye kom sa dwa e koupab yo pini dapre la lwa!

Fok MINUSTAH, SANCO Entreprises Co. Marguerite Jean Louis e otorite lokal yo dedomaje fanmi viktim yo e kominote zonn l'Artibonite nan kom sa dwa!
Nan tout vye bagay louch kap fet nan peyi a, fok otorite yo ladann kan memm!!


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Message  Doub-Sossis Lun 1 Nov 2010 - 21:34

A cholera outbreak that has killed more than 300 people in Haiti matches strains commonly found in South Asia, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday.

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Message  Doub-Sossis Lun 1 Nov 2010 - 21:44

Press Release
For Immediate Release: November 1, 2010
Contact: CDC Division of Media Relations
(404) 639-3286
Laboratory Test Results of Cholera Outbreak Strain in Haiti Announced

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI — The Haitian Ministry of Public Health and Population has received the results of laboratory testing showing that the cholera strain linked to the current outbreak in Haiti is most similar to cholera strains found in South Asia. More information about this strain, including the possibility that it might be found in other regions of the world, is anticipated from additional studies. The findings were reported as part of laboratory collaboration between the National Public Health Laboratory (NPHL) in Haiti and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta.

The rapid identification of the outbreak strain as Vibrio cholerae serogroup O1, serotype Ogawa and antimicrobial susceptibility profiles were reported last week by the NPHL. The new findings from CDC's laboratory are based on a method of "DNA fingerprinting" called pulsed field gel electrophoresis (PFGE), which analyzes DNA patterns that can then be compared with PFGE patterns of cholera strains from other regions of the world. The PFGE testing was performed on 13 bacterial isolates recovered from patients with cholera in Haiti. The PFGE analysis shows that these isolates are identical, indicating that they are the same strain and similar to a cholera strain found in South Asia.

The lab findings are not unexpected and provide information about the relatedness of the cholera outbreak strain to strains found elsewhere in the world.

"Although these results indicate that the strain is non-Haitian, cholera strains may move between different areas due to global travel and trade," said Minister of Health Dr. Alex Larsen. "Therefore, we will never know the exact origin of the strain that is causing the epidemic in Haiti. This strain was transmitted by contaminated food or water or an infected person."

Global travel and trade provide many opportunities for infectious diseases such as cholera to spread from one country to another. In most instances, cholera does not spread widely within a country if drinking water and sewage treatment are adequate. When water and sewage treatment is inadequate, as in post-earthquake Haiti, cholera can spread rapidly.

Current preventive measures being used to control the outbreak include treating ill people with oral rehydration solution, providing access to safe water, and encouraging good hygiene and sanitation practices. The Haitian Ministry of Public Health and Population is leading a response that prioritizes measures to protect families at the community level, strengthen primary health care centers already operating across the nation, and establish a network of special cholera treatment centers and designated hospitals for treatment of severe cases.

In the coming weeks, additional laboratory testing, including whole genome DNA sequencing will be conducted, but investigating officials note that such testing may never fully explain how cholera was introduced into Haiti.

"Our primary focus here is to save lives and control the spread of disease," said CDC medical epidemiologist Dr. Jordan Tappero, who is leading the CDC cholera response team in Haiti. "We realize that it's also important to understand how infectious agents move to new countries. However, we may never know the actual origin of this cholera strain."

CDC, in collaboration with the U.S. government through U.S. Agency for International Development, is assisting the government of Haiti, the Pan American Health Organization, and several other international health agencies in this outbreak.

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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
http://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/2010/r101101.html

Combien Haitien ou zot etranger ki ta voyage South Asia ki ta frekante zonne Maissade benier mois yo??
Mwen pa kwe ke nou gen yon chans sou 1 million jwenn yon touris konsa apa de BRIGADE NEPALAIS YO>>>

koulia nan 21e siek nan viv MOUN TWOU MANTI PA FOND NON
YO TE DI YO SUIV NORMES ENVIRONMENTALES
NAN 24 HEURES AL-JAZEERA DEMANTI YO
PREV A LAPPUI AN DIREC NAN JE TOUT MOUN
KOULIA CDC "DNA FINGERPRINT" BACTERIE A
AS NON-HAITIAN, BUT SOUTH ASIAN

1 PLUS 1 KOMBIENL FE???


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Message  revelation Lun 1 Nov 2010 - 21:46

A cholera outbreak that has killed more than 300 people in Haiti matches strains commonly found in South Asia, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday.

Sossis di: mwen ta renmen plis detay
Men detay tou nef!!! gen 4 minit de sa!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/world/7274300.html
Combien Haitien ou zot etranger ki ta voyage South Asia ki ta frekante zonne Maissade benier mois yo??
Mwen pa kwe ke nou gen yon chans sou 1 million jwenn yon touris konsa apa de BRIGADE NEPALAIS YO
Cholera tap fe ravaj Nepal en ete 2010 la!
Cholera endemic saa (san ofans e san prejije) Nepalen yo gen sa nan sang yo!
1,400 Solda Nepalen debake nan zonn Mirbalais, Latibonite!
Yo etabli Latrinne yo nan zonn rivye latibonite lan!
Konpagni Ayisyen Sanco Entreprise Co. an konnivans avel otorite lokal yo, ak MINUSTAH deverse KK Nepalen nan dlo prop Latibonite.
Depi le saa moun, bet ap mouri, dlo, manje, anvironman chaje ak mikrob cholera!

Ki plis prev anko ke le mond bezwen anko!! Fok se Center for Desease Control (CDC) ki pou vinn bay rezilta aa pou le mond kwe!!
A la de traka papa!!
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a fos Haitiens renmen PEPE
koulia menm kk pepe Nepalien
Yo importe koulia....
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HAITI-CHOLERA: Verite a Deyo!!Se Solda Nepalen MINUSTAH Yo! Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReVtAx8npdI3QN0zRihAWTFrozYh_vxdcG4tJSgI4ddVDr9LQ&t=1&usg=__537FvPMEjqqcopizRAkC_5vjyeI=
"Although these results indicate that the strain is non-Haitian, cholera strains may move between different areas due to global travel and trade," said Minister of Health Dr. Alex Larsen. "Therefore, we will never know the exact origin of the strain that is causing the epidemic in Haiti. This strain was transmitted by contaminated food or water or an infected person."
Minist Santé Piblik saa te dwe revoké immediatman!

Yon deklarasyon fantezist konsa se yon mank deka a 340 moun ki mouri yo, e 5,000+ kap soufri de cholera saa!
Ki zafe ke nou pap jamb konnen saa! Investigasyon fet! Resilta bay!
Se Solda Nepalen Minustah yo ki soti lakay yo ak mikrob sa yo!
Ki prev ke minist sante sa vle anko!!
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Message  Doub-Sossis Lun 1 Nov 2010 - 22:40

Neg yo ap fe diplomatie de l'autruche
"No finger pointing" kasse fey kouvri sa
Sa ta dernier flagrant echec pou l'ONU
apres tout kote li passe li pote yon ADIPOPO
pou blazon li koulia pote "introduction du Vibrio cholerae" en Haiti

Et Larsen koupab ladan tou paske kom minis sante
li te dwe parle ak misis interrieur ak defans National
ADIPOPO PORTEURS DE GERMES KONSA
Neg sayo se en isolement pou yo te mete yo
Voye yo lwen de yon zone strategik tankou latibonit
ki se pi gwo sous dlo nan peyi ya

neg sa yo se nordouest jan-Rabel plen Bombardopolis
pou yo te voye yo, la torti ou la Gonav de preferans
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Message  Le gros roseau Lun 1 Nov 2010 - 23:29

Men bagay saa moun ki pran desisyon voye kontenjan solda sa yo an ayiti te dwe revoke.Poukisa yo beswen al chache moun sa yo jis kote yap viv la pou voye yo an ayiti.LONU pat ka jwen solda nan peyi amerik yo ki pou te al mete lod an ayiti.Poukisa lonu pat mande venezuela, kiba, jamayik,kanada konkou yo.epi ki sa paket jandam sa yo ap fè an ayiti toujou?eske genyen gè sivil an ayiti?Men kote nou rive a koz de egoyis nou de mank patriotism ,de indisiplinn nou ,se nou sel nan amerik la ki genyen solda etranje lakay nou ;ki lè nap sipspan pran wont,imilyatyon a koz de endisiplinn nou jodya se vye maladi nap pran na men solda nepalè.Kote Preval ak Bellerive poukisa yo pa mande lONU pou retire solda sa yo nan peyi ya imedyatman.Poukisa tout kandida a la presidans yo pa fè yon sèman di ke nanpren oken moun ki ap goumen a oken moun pou pouvwa nan peyi dayiti e ke nou pa beswen fos LONU nan peyi ya ankò.Li lè pou hing hang pou pouvwa a fini.li lè pou politisyen ayisyen rann yo kont se plis mal yo fè peyi ya ke byen.se sa kasayol te di bef la mwen santi mwen ta di tout politisyen san koutchya ,malpouwont depi komanse sou sankoutchya yo rele Preval la .Gnibist nou wè sa nou lakoz jodya.lè moun ki te wè pi lwen pase pwent nen yo tap mande nou pou nou jwen yon solutyon antre nou pou peyi ya pa pran yon lot okipatyon ankò nou pat di nou pap negosye ak presidan ki te eli demokratikman an.Guy phillipe ou wè sa w la koz kom jida ou te dwe achte yon kod epi pann tet w.

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Gnibist nou wè sa nou lakoz jodya.lè moun ki te wè pi lwen pase pwent nen yo tap mande nou pou nou jwen yon solutyon antre nou pou peyi ya pa pran yon lot okipatyon ankò nou pat di nou pap negosye ak presidan ki te eli demokratikman an.Guy phillipe ou wè sa w la koz kom jida ou te dwe achte yon kod epi pann tet w.

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Se sa ki fè ke mwen ak nou pa p janm ka dakò, gade gwosè manti ke w ap fè pandan ke w pa t konnen kisa ki t ap pase vre nan peyi an. Fòk wou pa kite preferans wou fè w pèdi lisidite w. GNBism lan se yon reyaksyon ki fèt apre ke aksyon malonèt te vin komèt. Se pa GNBis ki te fè eleksyon chanpwèl lane 2000 yo. Se a lorijin seleksyon 21 Me 2000 yo ki lakòz tout sa ki te vini apre. Pat genyen negosyasyon posib ak Aristide apre zak sanginè 17 Desanm 2001 an paske li te kentan travèse liy wouj lan. Se pou w ale fè yon rechèch sou dat sa a pou w genyen yon lide sa ki te pase, mwen te nan peyi an jou sa a. Al chache konnen anvan ke w fin pèdi tèta w nèt.

Wè pa wè, fòk gason ak fanm vayan nan peyi te kapote rejim san manman lavalas lan. Li te pran 3 lane, men san viktim yo pat koule pou anyen. Si Nepalè lage kolera nan degwann nou, se pou nou pale ak mesye ki ta p boure bwat bilten ak fè 0 tounen 9 nan seleksyon yo.

Alò fòk tout Ayisyen te pliye ke yo anba vant yo epi kite lavalas fè sa yo vle? Fòk nou te kite ke òganizasyon eskadwon lanmò "Dòmi nan Bwa" te non sèlman rache jounalis Lindor ak kout rach ak pikwa, men se te pou yo kontinye bwè san popilasyon Tigwav lan? Alò, se yo ki genyen monopòl vyolans lan? Ebyen n ap kk ti grenn! Tan sa yo pase, e yo p at tounen ankò.

Konstitisyon an pa di sèlman ke fòk moun ki pran pouvwa yo pase nan eleksyon e ke le prezidan è eli pou 5 lane, li di tou kijan ke pou eleksyon sa yo fèt e nan ki kondisyon. Si yon sektè pilonnen lwa peyi an pou yo pran pouvwa a nan move kondisyon, konstitisyon an pa prevwa anyen pou fason ke sektè sa a dwe kite pouvwa a. Se sa ki fè ke mwen toujou ap di nou ke "Ti kouto nou jwenn bò chemen, se bò chemen ke n ap pèdi sa". Ayiti se tè glise, nan kondisyon ke nou pran pouvwa a, nou genyen anpil chans ke se nan kondisyon sa a tou ke nou pèdi l.

Fòk mwen raple nou ke menm administrasyon Ameriken ki te depanse 4 milya dola pou mete sou moun ankò an, se menm administrasyon sa a ki te fout mete anbago finansye sou nou menm jan sou tan militè yo:

Se te nan dat 7 Desanm 2000.

"The United States together with the rest of the international
community has made it known to the Haitian authorities that their failure to
address well-documented election irregularities puts into question their
commitment to democracy."
Until they address them, some $ 90 million in annual U.S. aid will be channeled
through private agencies.
The international community has condemned a flawed count in May legislative
elections... Last week, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan recommended closing the
mission, saying it was useless considering the government's questionable
legitimacy...


http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/haiti/electoral-impasse.htm


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Message  Joel Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 6:46

Tankou JAF konn di l ""TWOU MANTI PA FON""

BAGAY KI TE AN DISKISYON ,SE TE STATI 7 SENATÈ ,LAN 2 ZYÈM TOU;yon bagay ke gouvènman an te deside adrese.Pa t gen plis iregilarite pase sa.

Se noumenm ki kòz gen twoup etranjè sou teritwa a.Anbasadè ameriken an BRIAN DEAN CURRAN te jwenn yon akò ak ARISTIDE pou te genyen yon gouvènman kowalisyon ak yon premye minis GNBIS ,jistan pou manda ARISTIDE LAN FINI.

Se BDC ki di l.Negosyasyon te kòmanse jistan STANLEY LUCAS di GNBIS yo pa negosye paske gouvènman ameriken an deside :""regime change".
LUCAS fè yo ranplase BRIAN DEAN CURRAN.
FOUT TONNÈ,SISPANN BAY MANTI.SE NOUMENM KI RESPONSAB.

Te gen yon ka konsa an DOMINIKANI ;lè yo te akize ke BALAGUER vòlò eleksyon lan men PENA GOMEZ.Se te vre lan ka sa.DOMINIKEN yo yomenm te negosye pou evite yon chanbadman.

TOUT SA KI PASE 6 DÈNYE LANNE YO ,SE NOUMENM KI RESPONSAB.

Epa vin di rans ,ke w te ann AYITI ,ke w te pi konnen;kididonk sispann opine sou sa k ap pase ann AYITI aktyèlman ,paske w pa p viv ann AYITI

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Message  Thunder Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 7:33

Ki chanbadman pou opozisyon an te evite la a? Se pa sa ke Aristide te kòmanse depi 17 Desanm 2001?

Bon! mwen twouve ke mesye opozisyon sa yo se te yon bann sousou pou apre yon zak sanginè konsa ki te byen planifye pou yo te ka elimine tout opozisyon politik nan peyi an, pou m wè ke mesye sa yo te menm al chita sou menm tab ak lavalas pandan ke se menm lavalas sa a ki te voye mete dife nan tout lokal politik yo ak touye manb opozisyon an tankou chen.

Depi apre dat sa a, tout negosyasyon te dwe koupe. pa genyen negosyasyon posib avèk dyab lan paske nan fen jounen l ap manje w kanmenm.

Si se vre ke Lucas te di pou yo pa negosye ak sanginè an, (kòm mwen konnen depi se Lucas oubyen Ti Guy ke yo di ki di, prèv pa nesesè) mwen dakò ak sa ak 100%. Se pa lè w finn kraze kay mwen, wou fin bay moun lakay mwen pè lebren epi se lè sa a ke w bezwen negosye epi pi devan pou w fout yon lòt kou ki pi mal. Fool me once shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.

Viv 29 Fevriye 2004! Sèl regrè ke mwen genyen se paske Compadre an pat genyen ase GNB, li te dwe rete nan palè olye ke li te kouri, konsa pawòl anpil lan t ap tou fini yon fwa pou tout.
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Message  Joel Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 7:50

Si w vle prèv sa STANLEY LUCAS te di ;ale sou NEWYORK TIMES peye 2dola 1/2 w e w ap wè deklarasyon ke BRIAN DEAN CURRAN TE FÈ YO.
Se byen senp.
E zafè ke mesye ARISTIDE yo te atake syèj PATI POLITIK yo.ARISTIDE te manke kòwonn.Misye te dwe mete mesyedam sa yo anbakòd.
Ou genlè bliye.Se te apre teworis ti GI yo te atake PALÈ an pou al touye ARISTIDE men misye te TABARRE.
Mesye ti GI APRE 2004 ,DI KE YO TE ATAKE PALÈ AN VRE.
GNBis yo te deklare se yon montaj;yo fè kont bri yo ,paske yo kontwole radyo yo ,ke yo toujou kontwole.

ARISTIDE lan ka sa a ,te dwe voye timoun li yo ak madanm li MIYAMI e mare GNBis yo tankou bandi yo te ye an!

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Message  Joel Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 8:49

Gen anpil GNBis sou sit lan ke lè w ap pale de ajisman STANLEY LUCAS lan evènman 2004 yo ;ap di w se pawòl w ap fè.Men yon atik enteresan ki te parèt an 2006 ,lan NEW YORK TIMES.

Atik lan long anpil ,NYT te enteroje tout temwen ,genyen ki vivan tankou EVANS PAUL ak JEAN MAX BELLERIVE;genyen ki mouri tankou tankou BAZIN ak MICHA GAILLARD.

Nou tout temwen ,li atik lan ,si nou kapab e di mwen si se pa noumenm ki responsab ;yon bagay tankou yon jounal ""establishment"" tankou NYT te konkli an 2006

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/international/americas/29haiti.html?_r=1&sq=BRIANDEANCURRAN&st=cse&scp=1&pagewanted=all

Mwen konnen ,yon bann fanatik GNBis pa p janm fèmen dyòl yo ,men sa ka ede moun rezonab gen en fòmasyon sou sa k te pase vre.

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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 11:54

Thunder nanpren pèdan ki pa rekalsitran an ayiti.wi mwen pat la men mwen te tande ke tout Senatè ki te eli nan elektyon an 2000 yo te demisyone pou elektyon te ka refet.Mwen te tande ke Aristide te dakò pou oposityon an te nomen yo Premye Minis pou li te ka epaye peyi ya imilyatyon saa ke nap pran jodya.Fok ou avwe se egoyism ,mank patriyotism GNBIST yo ki fè bagay yo rive kote yo rive jodya.3/4 moun o Zeta Zuni pat vle wè Georges Bush yo di se nan fo elektyon ke li te ka Presidan men nanpren oken meriken ki te ale o meksik pou vinn destabilise peyi yo.Ou pa fouti konvenk mwen ke kou deta a se te meyè solutyon pou peyi ya, pa pèdi tan w.se pa resilta a :jodya nou fè ayisyen ap bwè dlo kk nepalè ki ba yo kolera.

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Message  Thunder Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 17:04

Joel a écrit:Si w vle prèv sa STANLEY LUCAS te di ;ale sou NEWYORK TIMES peye 2dola 1/2 w e w ap wè deklarasyon ke BRIAN DEAN CURRAN TE FÈ YO.
Se byen senp.
E zafè ke mesye ARISTIDE yo te atake syèj PATI POLITIK yo.ARISTIDE te manke kòwonn.Misye te dwe mete mesyedam sa yo anbakòd.
Ou genlè bliye.Se te apre teworis ti GI yo te atake PALÈ an pou al touye ARISTIDE men misye te TABARRE.
Mesye ti GI APRE 2004 ,DI KE YO TE ATAKE PALÈ AN VRE.
GNBis yo te deklare se yon montaj;yo fè kont bri yo ,paske yo kontwole radyo yo ,ke yo toujou kontwole.

ARISTIDE lan ka sa a ,te dwe voye timoun li yo ak madanm li MIYAMI e mare GNBis yo tankou bandi yo te ye an!

Kounyea depi yon bagay sòti sou jounal ke w chwazi se prèv ke sa ye? Mwen pran nòt.

Sispann bay manti tònnas! Ti Guy pa t atake okenn palè vre. Sispann fè moun griyen dan sou wou! Mwen pa kwè ke w sòt nan eta sa a vre, mwen espere ke se pòz wou ke w ap pran.

Joel si w se yon moun ki moralman onèt, se pou w ta rekonèt ke li pa posib pou TI Guy ta rantre nan Palè an 17 Desanm 2001. Pou tout 6 zè nan maten pou yo la toujou, men se sèl kèk manb FL ki te wè yo. Sisipann rabadja tònnèr!

Eske w ka fè yon ti rale sou sa ki te pase dat sa a? Epi m ap demontre w ke mwen pral demanti w pwen pa pwen. Paske pa genyen anyen ke pral di la a ki pral fè sans, twou manti pa fon. Mwen pini w bay vèsyon pa w sou evènman sa yo.

Wou pa wè ke jou yo t ap fini touye Tutus tout bon an, li fout sove. Si w kwè ke Ti Guy te antre nan palè sa a, monchè ka w pi grav toujou ke jan mwen te panse la.


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Message  Thunder Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 17:15

Joel a écrit:Gen anpil GNBis sou sit lan ke lè w ap pale de ajisman STANLEY LUCAS lan evènman 2004 yo ;ap di w se pawòl w ap fè.Men yon atik enteresan ki te parèt an 2006 ,lan NEW YORK TIMES.

Atik lan long anpil ,NYT te enteroje tout temwen ,genyen ki vivan tankou EVANS PAUL ak JEAN MAX BELLERIVE;genyen ki mouri tankou tankou BAZIN ak MICHA GAILLARD.

Nou tout temwen ,li atik lan ,si nou kapab e di mwen si se pa noumenm ki responsab ;yon bagay tankou yon jounal ""establishment"" tankou NYT te konkli an 2006

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/international/americas/29haiti.html?_r=1&sq=BRIANDEANCURRAN&st=cse&scp=1&pagewanted=all

Mwen konnen ,yon bann fanatik GNBis pa p janm fèmen dyòl yo ,men sa ka ede moun rezonab gen en fòmasyon sou sa k te pase vre.

Nou chire, ni nou pa ka koud. Sispann fè figi nou tankou timoun k ap kriye pou pen ak kafe. Kit se vre ou pa, sa ki enpòtan kounye a se ki efè ke atik sa a genyen? Nad marinad!

An palan de sa kote tout komisyon mwen tande ke n ap mete sou pye nan Kongrè Ameriken an pou yo te ka detèmine wòl Ameriken nan swadizan "koudeta" 2004 lan? Ban m yon ti lòzyè sou sa non. Wou genyen anpil bagay pou w aprann toujou antan ke yon moun ki genyen laj avanse. Wou kite fanatism bouche sèvèl wou tèlman, wou tounen yon zonbi.
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Message  Thunder Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 17:33

Thunder nanpren pèdan ki pa rekalsitran an ayiti.wi mwen pat la men mwen te tande ke tout Senatè ki te eli nan elektyon an 2000 yo te demisyone pou elektyon te ka refet.Mwen te tande ke Aristide te dakò pou oposityon an te nomen yo Premye Minis pou li te ka epaye peyi ya imilyatyon saa ke nap pran jodya.Fok ou avwe se egoyism ,mank patriyotism GNBIST yo ki fè bagay yo rive kote yo rive jodya.3/4 moun o Zeta Zuni pat vle wè Georges Bush yo di se nan fo elektyon ke li te ka Presidan men nanpren oken meriken ki te ale o meksik pou vinn destabilise peyi yo.Ou pa fouti konvenk mwen ke kou deta a se te meyè solutyon pou peyi ya, pa pèdi tan w.se pa resilta a :jodya nou fè ayisyen ap bwè dlo kk nepalè ki ba yo kolera.

Monchèèè! Lamarinn pa metye w! Alò, malgre ke lavalas te fòmante fo koudeta, touye plizyè santèn moun nan peyi an dat 17 Desanm nan, depi ke Aristide te lage 2 ou 3 ti zo pou yo souse, fòk yo te di "mèsi bon papa"? Ebyen ni yo, ni Aristide t ap prale nan menm avyon. Apre zak sa a pat genyen negosyasyon posib aki sanginè an, se fè yon konsonmen kole ak li.

Fòk mwen raple w ke pandan moun t ap di ke se nan eleksyon magouy Ti Bush te pran pouvwa a, li pat janm fè 17 Desanm pa l li menm. Li pa t janm voye fanatik li yo al boule lokal demokrat yo, ni bay demokrat pè lebren. Pinga wou konpare sa ki pa sanble. Kèkeswa moun ounbyen sektè ki te negosye ak sanginè an, konnen moun sa a te vire do bay lit lan. E nou moun vanyan ki te kontinye konbat lavalas, nou t ap konbat moun sa yo tou.

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Message  revelation Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 20:27

Foto neg saa avek zamm li nan dada'l fe moun pe sou deba cholera saa!!

Avan ke nou femen deba saa pou ti neg pa patizaneri'l konklizyon nou se ke:

Fok Leta mande MINUSTAH pou bataillon Nepalen yo retounen lakay yo!!
Pou Minustah debleye e kwaze tout kay ak latrinn yo ki konstwi bo riviyer Latibonite la.

Pou Minustah konstwi yon plant prodiksyon dlo potab pou tout kominote nan zonn nan.
Pou Minustah dedomaje, e repare dega e desast humaniter saa nan peyi a.
Pou Leta retire lisans konpagni Sanco entreprise Co. pou violasyon anvironman e fe yo peye yon amand pou sa.

Pou Leta investige konplisite e inplikasyon gouvenman lokal la sou zafe cholera saa.
Revoke Minist de la sante a, e reforme ministe bidon saa ki pa jamb fe anyen pou pep la.

Fok Leta kweye yon Institue d'Agents d'Hygiene Sanitaire a la plas de ministe Sante saa pou sa sevi bezwen pep la.

C'est par l'hygiene que pep la kap jwen lasanté
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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 2 Nov 2010 - 23:32

Thunder ki kote plisyè santenn moun sa yo te mouri jou 17 decembre la;mwen pa di se manti fè m sonje non.men se yon sel bagay ke mwen te ka di w sim ta eli presidan an ayiti pa vot pep la epi yon paket mèsènè ta mete ak etranje pou jete m mon chè mwen pa kache di w se sa Florville Hyppolite te fè nan Port-au-prince ki tap pase wi.Fok pep ayisyen fè mèsenè yo respekte dwa li.Fok kou deta fini an ayiti.Aristide pat ka yon revolutyonè se sak fè nou fè ti frekan saa. men sonje sa Gerard Bissainthe di ya yon jou ap genyen yon represantan exkli yo ki pran pouvwa nou pap ka ranverse l non.A bon entendeur salut.

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Message  Joel Mer 3 Nov 2010 - 9:26

Refleksyon mwen gen dwa fè dapre atik NEW YORK TIMES lan ;se voye yon gwo AYIBOBO pou memwa MARC BAZIN ki te refize patisipe lan zak TRAYIZON sa a kont peyi l ;byen ke l konnen li ta ka pwofite de yon ranvèsman ARISTIDE.

Pou EVANS PAUL ak JEAN MAX BELLERIVE ;lè LUCAS te apwoche nou e di nou pa negosye paske bi gouvènman ameriken an se ranvèsman gouvènman ARISTIDE lan ;poukisa nou te kontinye ap kolabore ak li?

Dapre atik lan ,EVANS PAUL di li te gen ti ezitasyon ,men li kontinye ap kolabore ak STANLEY LUCAS byen ke misye di NEWYORK TIMES li pa t vle ale osi lwen ke LUCAS.

Se sa mwen di mesye sa yo ;priye ke yo toujou kontinye ap kontwole radyo yo ann AYITI

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Message  Doub-Sossis Mer 3 Nov 2010 - 19:30

Mercredi, 3 novembre 2010 15:06
Le cholera a déjà fait plus de 400 morts en Haïti


Les autorités sanitaires haïtiennes annoncent que le nouveau bilan de l'épidémie de choléra qui touche actuellement le pays est de 442 morts et de plus de 6 742 mille personnes atteintes de la maladie.

Lors d'une nouvelle conférence de presse tenue ce mercredi, La directrice du DPSPE, Jocelyne Pierre-Louis, a indiqué que le nombre de décès ainsi que de personnes hospitalisées tend à augmenter.

En effet, on a recensé 105 nouveaux décès depuis samedi.

Monsieur Pierre –Louis a déclaré que toutes dispositions nécessaires sont déjà prises par les autorités sanitaires dans le but d'empêcher la propagation de l'épidémie.

Elle a fait remarquer que le ministère de la santé et ses partenaires internationaux ont déjà mis en place une campagne de sensibilisation et ont activé le plan de surveillance épidémiologique.

Rappelons les résultats des tests réalisés par le Center for Desease Control (CDC) démontre que la souche du choléra qui frappe Haïti est originaire d' Asie du sud.

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