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Let Aristide Return!! Kite Aristide Tounen Lakay li!!!

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Let Aristide Return!!    Kite Aristide Tounen Lakay li!!! Aristide-family

Let Aristide Return!
by Stephen Lendman
On February 29, 2004, US marines abducted him at gunpoint, airlifting him forcibly to the Central Africa Republic. It was one of Haiti's darkest moments, losing its beloved leader, reelected President in 2000 with 92% of the vote.
For over six years, he's been exiled in South Africa, wants to return, and on January 19, wrote an open letter, thanking his host country and their people for welcoming him hospitably, saying:
Since forcibly abducted, "the people of Haiti have never stopped calling for my return....Despite the enormous (post-quake) challenges that they face....their determination to make the return happen has increased."

"As far as I am concerned, I am ready....today, tomorrow, at any time. The purpose is very clear: To contribute to serving my Haitian sisters and brothers as a simple citizen in the field of education."

Returning is also vital "for medical reasons: It is strongly recommended that I not spend the coming winter in South Africa because in 6 years I have undergone 6 eye surgeries. The surgeons are excellent and very well skilled, but the unbearable pain experienced in the winter must be avoided in order to reduce any risk of further complications and blindness."

Aristide is ready to come any time, and hopes Haitian and South African officials let him.
Of course, Washington controls all Haitian affairs.

The Bush administration ousted him in 2004, militarily occupied the country with proxy Blue Helmet paramilitaries, banished him abroad, and thus far Obama won't let him back. One word from him changes everything. So far it's not forthcoming

He's been treated maliciously, victimized by Washington's intolerance to democracy, abroad and at home.
It's time public outrage demanded better, including in Haiti, the region's poorest, most oppressed nation, the rights of their people entirely denied, including having their beloved leader back home with them.

New York Times Coverage of Haiti under Aristide
After Washington's February 29, 2004 middle-of-the-night coup ousted him, a Times March 1 editorial lied, saying:
-- he resigned;
-- letting marines abduct him "was the right thing to do;"
-- they only came after "Mr. Aristide yielded power;"
-- he "contributed significantly to his own downfall (because of his) increasingly autocratic and lawless rule;" and
-- he manipulated the 2000 legislative elections and didn't "deliver the democracy he promised."

Maliciously false on all counts.
Under Aristide, Haiti had its only freedom since successfully liberated in 1804, turning slaves into citizens for the first time.
On January 19, Times writer Ginger Thompson headlined, "Aristide Says He Is Ready to Return to Haiti, Too," saying:
Days after Duvalier's return, he "issued a statement on Wednesday that fueled rumors that he, too, was angling to return."

"Angling?" He explained clearly, why, and as a Haitian citizen, he's entitled under international law, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and Universal Declaration of Human Rights, giving everyone the right to leave and return to their countries.

Unwittingly in part, Thompson exposed the malicious Times 2004 editorial claiming he resigned and yielded power, saying he "was ousted in 2004 in the midst of growing unrest and under intense pressure from the United States."

In fact, Washington instigated unrest and "pressure(d)" Aristide at gunpoint by trained marine killers.
Aristide's statement, said Thompson, "threatened to fuel tensions already stirred by" Duvalier's return.
Of course, one event has nothing to do with another, except to explain that if a former despot comes freely, letting a beloved democrat is imperative.

She also said as President, Aristide "became notorious for his violent crackdowns of political dissent" when, if fact, he did nothing of the kind. Flippantly, she claimed he's "been hopscotching across Central America and the Caribbean in anticipation of making his own surprise re-entry. In fact, in March 2004, he returned briefly to Jamaica. Activist lawyer and TransAfrica founder Randall Robinson accompanied him, telling Democracy Now on March 25:

"I have learned from a White House source that Condoleezza Rice has pointedly threatened the Jamaican government, telling it to expel President Aristide or face the consequences. The (Bush) administration wants (him) out of the region. (It) views his mere presence in Jamaica as a threat to their (hegemonic) control along with the thugs and the installed (Haitian) government."
Aristide arrived in Jamaica on March 14, 2004. On March 25, the Jamaican government said he'd take "permanent asylum" in South Africa after its April 14 elections. He's been there since, "hopscotch(ing)" nowhere.

Further, Thompson claimed he has no valid Haitian passport, saying the Preval government won't issue him one so he can't return, despite knowing (or should know) that citizens don't need passports to their own countries.
At issue is one unnamed analyst's opinion, saying:

"Aristide could have 15 passports and he's still not going to come back to Haiti (because) France and the United States are standing in the way."

In fact, Washington has full control as colonial occupier, denying Haitians all rights, including sovereignty, democratic elections with all legitimate parties participating, and the right of their beloved leader to return in any capacity.

He only wishes to as a private citizen for health reasons and to provide whatever help he can.
No longer should he be denied.
Let Aristide return!
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Message  Invité Sam 22 Jan 2011 - 22:06

Titid ka gen pwoblem si li tounen lè nou konsidere kontra ke nou genyen ak blan meriken pou mare drog dilè yo....

Afrik di SId pa gen kontra sa a ak meriken....

Donk, antanke fanatik titid, nou rete kwè Titid pi bon kote li ye a koulie a....
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Message  Thunder Sam 22 Jan 2011 - 22:18

Non Colo!

Apa Duvalier tounen, se pou Aristide tounen tou. Mwen fenk sOt pase 3 semEn Ayiti 2 semEn de sa. Ayiti pou Ayisyen. Kote Aristide kache la a,viktim yo p ap janm jwenn jistis oubyen revanj. Se pou Aristide tounen vinn peye pou krim ke li komEt kont pEp Ayisyen an.
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Thunder a écrit:Non Colo!

Apa Duvalier tounen, se pou Aristide tounen tou. Mwen fenk sOt pase 3 semEn Ayiti 2 semEn de sa. Ayiti pou Ayisyen. Kote Aristide kache la a,viktim yo p ap janm jwenn jistis oubyen revanj. Se pou Aristide tounen vinn peye pou krim ke li komEt kont pEp Ayisyen an.

Ayiti pap gen moyen pou kontwole yon prizonie danjere tankou Titid....

Pa bliye "Capacité de destruction" Jean Bertrand Aristide pa gen limit....
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Message  Thunder Sam 22 Jan 2011 - 22:34

KrEk ti bEt!

Si Hitler te jwenn bouchon l, se pa Aristide sanginE tou ki pa ka jwenn bouchon l. Yon katouch 9mm byen plase kapab bouche tout danmijann.
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Message  Invité Sam 22 Jan 2011 - 22:49

Thunder a écrit:KrEk ti bEt!

Si Hitler te jwenn bouchon l, se pa Aristide sanginE tou ki pa ka jwenn bouchon l. Yon katouch 9mm byen plase kapab bouche tout danmijann.

Bonne Chance!!!!!!!

Men mwen pa pran chans ak peyi mwen!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thunder a écrit:Non Colo!

Apa Duvalier tounen, se pou Aristide tounen tou. Mwen fenk sOt pase 3 semEn Ayiti 2 semEn de sa. Ayiti pou Ayisyen. Kote Aristide kache la a,viktim yo p ap janm jwenn jistis oubyen revanj. Se pou Aristide tounen vinn peye pou krim ke li komEt kont pEp Ayisyen an.

Oumenm ak COLO kontinye griji.

Nou tankou LA FRANS an 1940 ki ap defann peyi yo an tankou dènye gè 14-18 lan .Lan 6 semènn LALMAY te pran la FRANS.

Si ARISTIDE ta tounen e BREZIL ta toujou an kontwòl ;se noumenm ki ap an ba bwa.Lan AMERIK DI SID se pa moun ki te pran koudeta yo non ki ap manje prizon ;se koudetayis yo.
Le 20 la a;pi gwo jounal ann ANGLETÈ ki rele THE GUARDIAN lan deklare ke DEMOKRASI te ekziste ann AYITI ;LAN TOUT ISTWA L;se sèlman ant 1990 ak 2004.
NA TANDE.
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Message  Thunder Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 10:32

La ankò, zye pete klere an pa ka konprann anyen ki ap fèt devan l tèlman ke fanatism enfekte tout selil ki nan kò l. An nou fè yon ti gade dèyè pou nou wè fè yo ankò.

Lè Aristide te vrèman nan bezwen, lè rebèl t ap mache pran peyi an nan men l ak yon vitès ke pèsonn pa konprann, konbyen nan Latino yo ki te ba l yon èd ke l bezwen? Poukisa ke se pa Latino yo ti nèg te di vini vit?

Pou jan Castro, Chavez, Lula, ak anpil lòt ankò di ke yo renmen Ayiti, pouki rezon ke yo p at vinn selebre 2004? Malgre ke te genyen envitasyon espesyal lanse ba yo, yo tout te genyen bagay ki pi enpòtan pou yo te fè jou sa a. Pa bay tèt nou manti, repons la senp: Pa genyen moun ki te vle parèt twò kole ak rejim sanginè lavalas lan. Bay nòt pou laprès ak pote sekou lojistik ak fizik pou Aristide se te 2 bagay diferan.

Anpil nan nou bliye ke se Brezil ki komande kontenjan Minista a. E se Brezil ki te kraze bounda gang lavalas ki t ap fè operasyon bagdad pou chèf yo ka tounen.

Zafè demokrasuuuuuu ke w ap pale an, kite l pou fanatik yo dijere. Pa genyen oken moun ki lisid ki pral kwè ak yon absidite konsa.
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Message  Joel Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 11:43

GRIJI;PETE ;

FANATIK?Se oumenm ki fanatik ;divalyeris fachis!

Enfòme w;ou pa wè sa k ap diskite lan WIKILEAKS semenn sa a kote yo di PREZIDAN FERNANDEZ DI BREZIL KE SE GI FILIP KI TOUYE JENERAL BACELAR

Mwen mete atik FOLHA a sou sit lan kote yo di ke LULA t ap voye yon emisè ann AFRIK DI SID pou l al rankontre ARISTIDE depi an 2005.
Y o di GI FILIP touye BACELAR paske misye te vin kont represyon lan katye popilè yo ;misye te fè LULA konnen sa y ap di l lan ;pwopagann y ap fè an se pa t sa vre.

Yo genyen pou yo mete nou an ba kòd ;rèy manti nou an genyen pou l fini.FACHIS tankou nou ,se ann AYITI ak petèt ONDIRAS yo gen pouvwa toujou.
SE YON KESYON DE TAN.
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Ala ti nonm genyen taktik ak grenn se Ti Guy Ah! Ah ! Ah!. Misye rantre jis nan yon otèl kote yon jeneral Brezilyen ap dòmi, li touye l, pa genyen moun ki wè l. Misye se yon nonm ke tout sèvis entèlijans ta dwe ap fè konpetisyon pou yo genyen. Misye se yon master nan taktik militè ak "stealth". Konsa ke mwen genyen yon gwo pon nan Brooklyn pou m vann, kou di Roseau (lol).

Wou toujou pa reponn kesyon kisa ki fè ke Lula pat bay sanginè w lan èd lojistik ke li te bezwen yo. Nou pa janm konprann lè moun ap pase nou nan betiz ak lè moun avèk nou vre.

W ap rele moun fachis, san dout wou pa menm ka defini fachism lan. Nou chita ap vòlò, touye moun, fè demagoji, epi kou moun denonse non oubyen kouri dèyè nou. Oh wi! moun se fachis, alò kisa pou tout moun te fè? Kwaze bra yo epi kite nou fini ak ti rès lan? Pa genyen sa pyès, piyay lan fini. N ap mete bon jan kout fizi nan kòtòf tout sanzave ki konprann ke tout moun dwe sèvi yo restavèk.
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 14:06

Haitilibre fè konnen sou Kestyon titid ta vle tounen preval reponn

Préval said "this does not depend of my decision"
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T-NEG a écrit:Haitilibre fè konnen sou Kestyon titid ta vle tounen preval reponn

Préval said "this does not depend of my decision"

Preval frustre e se pou sa li vle di jodia tout vie desizyon li te pran yo se blan ki te oblije fè sa....

Sa pap ka sèvi yon ekskiz pou li devan yon tribunal....
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T-Neg di:Haitilibre fè konnen sou Kestyon titid ta vle tounen preval reponn
Préval said "this does not depend of my decision"
Wi! Preval gen rezon!

Aristide pa bezwen aprobasyon gouvenman Preval la pou'l tounnen! Se yon kestion de protokol ki baze sou negosiation e lojistik e li pa bezwen paspo pou sa! Ayisyen pa bezwen yon paspo pou'l rantre lakay li!

Prezidan Afrik di Sid la Zuma te fe yon chita pale ak Castro pou we si Aristide kap vinn Cuba pou zafe zye'l la le pli vit possib avan hiver la an juin 2011.
Li pa fe sans pou yo blocke yon moun pou rezon medikal!

Memm assasin Libyen ki te mete bomb nan avion ki te exploze e touye anpil moun. Yo lague'l de prizon pou yon zafe prostate cancer ki pemet li tounnen an Liby.
An nou serye sou zafe serye! Fok nou pa kite blan ameriken, Franse, ak Kanadyen politize yon rezon medikal!!
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Prezidan Afrik di Sid la Zuma te fe yon chita pale ak Castro pou we si Aristide kap vinn Cuba pou zafe zye'l la le pli vit possib avan hiver la an juin 2011.
Li pa fe sans pou yo blocke yon moun pou rezon medikal!

Eske Aristide vle di se sèl Cuba ki gen doktè pou je li???

Eske Aristide vle di doktè afriken yo pa bon???

Si vrèman se sèl doktè Cubain ki ka soigne mouche, mwen twouve li ta pi fasil ke doktè cubain yo al fè operasyon sa a pou mouche an Afrik di Sid....
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Message  revelation Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 15:21

Colo di: Eske Aristide vle di se sèl Cuba ki gen doktè pou je li???
Eske Aristide vle di doktè afriken yo pa bon???
Si vrèman se sèl doktè Cubain ki ka soigne mouche, mwen twouve li ta pi fasil ke doktè cubain yo al fè operasyon sa a pou mouche an Afrik di Sid....
Prezidan Aristide fe eloj Dr. Sid Afriken yo pou expertiz yo e konnesan yo nan zafe zyé!
Se Dr. sa yo memm ki rekomande'l pou'l al viv nan yon peyi chô ki pa gen fredi!
Paske fredi a aji negativeman son guerizon je'l.
Dr. Cubain yo fo nan zafe zye e Cuba se yon peyi cho donk jan w habityé di a se yon solisyon gagnan gagnan!
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 15:43

revelation a écrit:Prezidan Aristide fe eloj Dr. Sid Afriken yo pou expertiz yo e konnesan yo nan zafe zyé!
Se Dr. sa yo memm ki rekomande'l pou'l al viv nan yon peyi chô ki pa gen fredi!
Paske fredi a aji negativeman son guerizon je'l.
Dr. Cubain yo fo nan zafe zye e Cuba se yon peyi cho donk jan w habityé di a se yon solisyon gagnan gagnan!

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Se kob mouche genyen ki fè lap peye gwo avoka meriken fè lobbye e avanse kondisyon medikal pou li ka rantre an Ayiti...

Suiv bien...

Kilès kite avoka Baby Doc avan??? Blan fransè, pa vre???

E lè kob la fini??? Renold Georges, ak kè lot Ayisien....


Ansien prezidan nou yo toujou renmen gaspiye kob konsa...

Lè kob ki nan men mouche a fini, li pa ka peye gwo avoka blan sa yo anko, Je Li Ap Klè....

Lap debake rantre an Ayiti san siyal...

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Colo di: Rev,
Se kob mouche genyen ki fè lap peye gwo avoka meriken fè lobbye e avanse kondisyon medikal pou li ka rantre an Ayiti...
Le yon dokte bay yon preskripsyon ou byen evalye yon kondisyon medikal, li pa bezwen avoka pou pousse koz la.

Memm jan tou si yon dokte bay w yon papye ki di ke w vinn intatad ou byen "disable" w pakab travay anko, avek papye medikal sa w gen dwa al reklame e touche lajan disabiliti w e tout lot benefis san grate tet devan lwa sosyal!

Se pa politisyen ki pou di ke kondisyon medikal JBA se menti ni se bluff.
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Colo di: Rev,
Se kob mouche genyen ki fè lap peye gwo avoka meriken fè lobbye e avanse kondisyon medikal pou li ka rantre an Ayiti...
Le yon dokte bay yon preskripsyon ou byen evalye yon kondisyon medikal, li pa bezwen avoka pou pousse koz la.

Memm jan tou si yon dokte bay w yon papye ki di ke w vinn intatad ou byen "disable" w pakab travay anko, avek papye medikal sa w gen dwa al reklame e touche lajan disabiliti w e tout lot benefis san grate tet devan lwa sosyal!

Se pa politisyen ki pou di ke kondisyon medikal JBA se menti ni se bluff.

Mwen dako ak ou e mwen ta renmen tande yon 2e opinion sou zafè je mouche a....

Sa vle di, si doktè meriken ou blan fransè ta konfime rezon medikal sa a, li tap bon anpil....

Ayiti tro frajil pou nou ta kite kok kalite lavalas sa a desann anba a e kraze li anko...
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Colo,
Madam ak piti Aristide se sitwayen Ameriken!
Lap pi fasil pou Aristide rantre o ZetaZini avek yon green card ou byen vinn sitwayen Ameriken!
Konsa li kap al viv nan yon zonn chô kankou Floride ou byen nan yon nan Virgin Islands yo pou bay problem je a yon soulajman..
Nou kap prezante'l option saa, men nou konnen l'homme!
Siman, li pap vlé hypoteké ambition politik li pou yon green card!
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 17:10

revelation a écrit:Colo,
Madam ak piti Aristide se sitwayen Ameriken!
Lap pi fasil pou Aristide rantre o ZetaZini avek yon green card ou byen vinn sitwayen Ameriken!
Konsa li kap al viv nan yon zonn chô kankou Floride ou byen nan yon nan Virgin Islands yo pou bay problem je a yon soulajman..
Nou kap prezante'l option saa, men nou konnen l'homme!
Siman, li pap vlé hypoteké ambition politik li pou yon green card!

Rèv,

Bèl rale e mwen damou pwopozisyon sa a...

Mwen ta swete mouche pran li....
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Message  revelation Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 17:50

Colo di: Bèl rale e mwen damou pwopozisyon sa a...
Mwen ta swete mouche pran li....
Nou ta souwete sa tou Colo!

Sa tap yon viktwa anraje pou gouvenman Ameriken ki ta pral itilize Aristide kom yon " poster boy" repantans.
Anpil aktivist fanatik antikolonyalist, imperialist tap vexe e desi si li fe sa.
Men fok Aristide panse ak santé'l e fanmi'l....pa gen wont ak sa.
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 18:48

Colo mpa fin swiv ou, ou make Ideologie: Jean-bertrand Aristide men sou fowom la, ou di misieu son kriminel,sanzave etc,etc
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 18:50

T-NEG a écrit:Colo mpa fin swiv ou, ou make Ideologie: Jean-bertrand Aristide men sou fowom la, ou di misieu son kriminel,sanzave etc,etc

Ki bo mwen di sa???
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:07

Ayiti pap gen moyen pou kontwole yon prizonie danjere tankou Titid....

Pa bliye "Capacité de destruction" Jean Bertrand Aristide pa gen limit....

Titid ka gen pwoblem si li tounen lè nou konsidere kontra ke nou genyen ak blan meriken pou mare drog dilè yo....

Afrik di SId pa gen kontra sa a ak meriken....

Donk, antanke fanatik titid, nou rete kwè Titid pi bon kote li ye a koulie a....

Preval ak Aristide volè anpil kob e mafia ede yo sere kob sa yo, men Preval ak Titid yo pa touye anpil moun ke sa, sou rytm nou ye la a, nap bliye 2 vakabon sa yo paske Volè Leta pa Krim Kont Limanite....

Wi Calibus merite pann...
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Message  Invité Dim 23 Jan 2011 - 19:17

T-NEG a écrit:
Ayiti pap gen moyen pou kontwole yon prizonie danjere tankou Titid....

Pa bliye "Capacité de destruction" Jean Bertrand Aristide pa gen limit....

Titid ka gen pwoblem si li tounen lè nou konsidere kontra ke nou genyen ak blan meriken pou mare drog dilè yo....

Afrik di SId pa gen kontra sa a ak meriken....

Donk, antanke fanatik titid, nou rete kwè Titid pi bon kote li ye a koulie a....

Preval ak Aristide volè anpil kob e mafia ede yo sere kob sa yo, men Preval ak Titid yo pa touye anpil moun ke sa, sou rytm nou ye la a, nap bliye 2 vakabon sa yo paske Volè Leta pa Krim Kont Limanite....

Wi Calibus merite pann...

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