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Message  Sasaye Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 0:08

Haiti's Martelly meets with former President Aristide before planned anti-gov't protest
By The Associated PressSeptember 18, 2013

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - Haitian President Michel Martelly has held a private meeting with his predecessor, two-time President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Radio station Vision 2000 reported Wednesday night that the meeting took place at Aristide's home in the capital of Port-au-Prince.

It was part of a series of meetings between Martelly and the leaders of different political parties as the government faces pressure to hold overdue legislative and local elections.
The radio newscast gave no other details.

The meeting comes more than a week before demonstrators plan anti-government protests as they mark the anniversary of Aristide's first ouster as president in 1991.

Martelly used to perform as a musician and was openly critical of Aristide.

It's the second official meeting between the two.

They first met in 2011, when Martelly took office.


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Message  Sasaye Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 0:21


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TABARRE, Haiti (sentinel.ht) - President Michel Martelly met Wednesday with former President Jean Bertrand Aristide at his home in Tabarre for a meeting of about 60 minutes, according to a source close to Dr. Aristide.


TABARRE, Haiti (sentinel.ht) - President Michel Martelly met Wednesday with former President Jean Bertrand Aristide at his home in Tabarre for a meeting of about 60 minutes, according to a source close to Dr. Aristide.

No information was leaked as to the purpose or content of discussions according to the Haiti Press Network. Throughout history, and especially in the past year, the two had, in somewhat subtle fashion, expressed their distaste for each other.

Martelly continues to claim his administration has done more than his predecessors while Aristide has pointed out the numerous injustices and violations of the Constitution and human rights taking place under the Martelly administration.

In reaction, Martelly recalled many of the state security that were protecting Aristide.

Wednesdays encounter comes at a time when the Martelly Administration is facing an increasingly hostile and growing opposition.

There have been 10 demonstrations throughout Haiti in as many days, a mobilization across many sectors have reacted to the release of a suspected drug trafficker and close friend to the president in Les Cayes
and attempts of the Haitian justice to intimidate members of the press, in particular, Radio Kiskeya.

Meanwhile, it seems less likely that elections in Haiti, overdue since November 2011, will be held at the end of the year, and political parties and organization are becoming restless and have manifested their lack of confidence in the Head of State.

President Martelly also leads a weak majority in Parliament and the opening of the legislative year in 2014 looks to be extremely contentious.



Read more: http://www.sentinel.ht/politics/articles/presidential/5024-haiti-president-martelly-meets-with-former-president-aristide#ixzz2fP3c7Xrc
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Message  Sasaye Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 0:25


Kisa k te gentan gen laa?

Eske se kk Mateli al di Aristid?

Eske se menas la l fè pou demonstrasyon anile?

Eske se padon la l mande?

Wèpawè, lantèman pou 4è.

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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 5:42

Sasaye a écrit:
Kisa k te gentan gen laa?

Eske se kk Mateli al di Aristid?

Eske se menas la l fè pou demonstrasyon anile?

Eske se padon la l mande?

Wèpawè, lantèman pou 4è.



Mesye ;fò k nou konprann ke ARISTID se pa ak MATELI ak lòt GNBis yo li ann afè.
Wete ENPERYALIS lan ;mwen pa gen DOUT ;absoliman okenn DOUT ke ARISTID ka jete MATELI.
Lè MISYE t al lan KONVOKASYON lan TRIBINAL lan ,se te yon DEMONSTRASYON lan la ri AN.

Si ARISTID ta di A BA MATELI ;pou MATELI bay TALON L;Peyi an t ap BLOKE.T ap genyen 200000 MOUN omwens lan LA RI PÒTOPRENS ,OKAY,MIRAGWÀN ;pa bliye OKAP ki se yon BASTYON LAVALAS.
MATELI mande pou l rankontre l;li pa ka refize.
Li pa fè deklarasyon ;si l te fè DEKLARASYON pou l di PATIZAN l yo pa pran LA RI ,le 30 SEPTANM ;se t ap yon lòt BAGAY.
Se pou LAVALAS la RI an sofistike ase pou l rekonèt sa.
Tankou m di l se pa ak MATELI ke ARISTID ap ""deal"" se ak ENPERYALIS yo.
Wete ENPERYALIS yo e yon KONBA ant MATELI ak ARISTID se t ap tankou yon EKIP PREMYÈ DIVIZYON ak yon ekip TWAZYÈM DIVIZYON!

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Message  Thunder Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 6:02

Ala nèg yo optimis konpè... Aristide pa t ka sove tèt li lè kèk rebel nan enpe pick up te pran plis ke mwatye peyi an nan men l nan mwens ke 2 semen an 2004. Men kounyea si li ouvè bouch li, peyi an ap bloke. San dout, Aristide te bèbè an 2004? Kòman lari an te fè pa t bloke?

Oh! Mwen bliye, Enperyalis yo ki te fè sa.
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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:06

Thunder a écrit:Ala nèg yo optimis konpè... Aristide pa t ka sove tèt li lè kèk rebel nan enpe pick up te pran plis ke mwatye peyi an nan men l nan mwens ke 2 semen an 2004. Men kounyea si li ouvè bouch li, peyi an ap bloke. San dout, Aristide te bèbè an 2004? Kòman lari an te fè pa t bloke?

Oh! Mwen bliye, Enperyalis yo ki te fè sa.


Mwen te konnen ou t ap vini ak BAGAY sa a ankò.Bagay ap zafè GRENN REBÈL ou yo lan PICK UP.Bay tèt ou KOURAJ ;paske se pa sa menm NÈG ou yo ak ANBASAD AMERIKEN an te di.
E byen kontinye eseye KONFWONTE L.
Se pa t 50 MOUN sou PICK UP.
Menm MOUN ki t ap pale de 50 MOUN sou PICK UP yo ;se noumenm ki t ap plenyen de OPERASYON BAGDAD.
Kite pa t gen ENTÈVANSYON twoup ETRANJE epi nou ta tande.
sE ZAFÈ w ;kontinye repete RANS.
Mesye w yo lan yon MILYON LANNE pa t ap ka jete ARISTID.
Se yon FÈ ;Se yon REYALITE.
Ou konn sa pou w fè THUNDER;mande pou ENPERYALIS wete kò yo e eseye ak ANSYEN SOLDA w yo ki gen plis ke 50 an pou la plipa ,konfwonte yo.
Chanje DISKOU W lan ,li pa alamòd ankò se lan menm LIY ak ARISTID te SANGINÈ an ;alòs ke se noumenm ki ap touye ki ap krabinen moun ;yon bagay ke nou kapab ke nou gen kapasite pou nou fè de mwenzan mwen.

DWAT AYISYEN AN GENYEN POU L DISPARÈT MENM JAN AK DWAT DOMINIKEN AN


Kite m poze w yon KESYON THUNDER.Pouki sa ke apre CARICOM te mande THABO MBEKI ZAM pou ARISTIDE ke te gen yon BATO ranpli ZAM ke AMERIKEN yo te akselere DEPA ARISTIDE.
Yon lòt KESYON eskè si ENPERYALIS yo pa t la ;zam SA YO pa t ap JWENN POPILASYON an.
Se AMERIKEN yo ki te jete ARISTID ;se pa t meni freten nou ye.
Yo te jete l ;menm jan yo te jete JACOBO ARBENZ,JUAN BOSCH,JUSCELINO KUBITSCHEK,JOAO GOULART;madan PERON,ALLENDE elt..
Se pa menm noumenm;nou te gen KONKOU LAME DOMINIKEN ;LAME DOMINIKEN ak ENPERYALIS yo.
SISPANN RANSE!


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Message  Thunder Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:18

Krèk ti bèt!

Se lè ENPERYALIS lan pa an favè nou ke nou kritike l sèlman, men lè 22,000 pè bòt ENPERYALIS te Mennen nou tounen sou twòn nou, nou te fè fanatic yo rele yo PAPA.

Wi wou genyen rezon ak OPERASYON BAGHDAD yo. Gouvènman Latortue an te twò pridan nan zafè mete sik sou bonbon chimè. Se jis Preval ki te resi bay fe vè an, epi yon sèl maten, tout chimè te fonn kou bè.

Enperyalis lan se nou menm lavalas ke yo te pwoteje, san yo menm nou pa t ap janm oze touye inosan ki pa ame konsa. Se yon bann lach ki nan lavalas lan. Lè rebel ap apse yo rantre nan twou, kou rebel fini pase, yo kouri monte sou popilasyon an.

Nou te konn monte Gonaives ale masakre pèp lan, kou rebel te debake nan vil lan, nou tout te disparèt kou yon kout zeklè, se te menm bagay lan nan Okap, Nahoum Marcelus te oblije highjack yon ti avyon pou l te sove pou l li. Se dan pouri nou ye, se sèl sou bannann mi ke nou genyen fòs.
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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:26

Aa wi.Se sa k fè nou te BOURE MOUN lan KONTENÈ e al lage yo LANMÈ OKAP.
Kite m retounen mo ILIZYON an ba ou.DWAT LAN PA P SIVIV ANN AYITI.LI PAKA SIVIV.
Menm ENPERYALIS lan ap wè pa gen BENEFIS pou yo siviv.
Y ap lage yo menm jan yo te LAGE DWAT lan DOMIONIKANI an.

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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:30

Sasaye a écrit:
Kisa k te gentan gen laa?

Eske se kk Mateli al di Aristid?

Eske se menas la l fè pou demonstrasyon anile?

Eske se padon la l mande?

Wèpawè, lantèman pou 4è.

[b]

SASAYE;

MARYSE NARCISSE di MATEN an sou MELODIE FM.
MANIFESTASYON 30 SEPTANM ""TÈT KALE""
FANMI LAVALAS AP PRAN LA RI
Li ESPESIFIK ;yo pral manifeste kont GRANGOU ROZ;MIZÈ RÒZ (se ekspresyon l) e rele GRAS LA MIZERIKÒD pou tout MOUN zòt TE BLAYI lan 2 KOUDETA yo/b]


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Message  Thunder Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:35

Yo te lage kontenè plen ak moun nan Okap? Mezanmi! ala moun yo kapab se lavalas. Kote kontenè saa Joel? Pa genyen moun ki ka repeche l? Pou yo ta lage yon kontenè sou warf lan plen ak moun, epi pou se ak kontantman ke yo te resevwa mesye sa yo tout kote yo te rive? Mesye ban m van tande, defè imilyan saa te frappe nou fò vre.
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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 8:49

Wi yo te resevwa byen tout kote yo te rive.
Manifestasyon 18 ME 2004 lan se aplodisman yo t ap fè pou yo ou byen ala PÈP chanje LIDE vit.
Menm anvan sa ;MOUN sa yo se a 2 BRA LOUVRI yo te resevwa yo?
ADYE WI WA!

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Message  Thunder Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 9:01

Se byen domaj ke moun sa yo peye pou petèt sa yo pa konnen. Se se ak Souverain pou yo te an afè, se li ki te chef nan represyon sanginè kont manb opozisyon an nan depatman Sant nan jou e apre 17 Desanm 2001 an. Inosan pa dwe peye pou koupab.
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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 9:27

Thunder a écrit:Se byen domaj ke moun sa yo peye pou petèt sa yo pa konnen. Se se ak Souverain pou yo te an afè, se li ki te chef nan represyon sanginè kont manb opozisyon an nan depatman Sant nan jou e apre 17 Desanm 2001 an. Inosan pa dwe peye pou koupab.


MWEN BA W LEGEN!
Se kontinyasyon bagay ke ""ENTÈL AP VOYE MOUN OU BYEN PATIZAN L A LA BOUCHRI.
M ap mande m kisa n ap fè ,lè nou pa kontwole radyo yo ankò

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Message  Thunder Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 9:46

Se legen pou w bay Joel paske ka w ap defann nan pèdi deja. Zafè kontwole radio wou toujou ap repete an se radòt. Se pa mirwa a pou nou kraze, se figi nou pou nou lave.
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Message  Sasaye Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 11:12


Pou retounen a no mouton:

Kisa Tètmato ta l chèche kay Aristid?
Eske se kk li ta l di doktè a?
Paske li fô lan joure manman moun.




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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 12:17

Thunder a écrit:Se legen pou w bay Joel paske ka w ap defann nan pèdi deja. Zafè kontwole radio wou toujou ap repete an se radòt. Se pa mirwa a pou nou kraze, se figi nou pou nou lave.


Mwen ba w legen lan PALE TENTEN.
San KONTWÒL RADYO yo ;nou t al BWA CHAT deja.Se RADYO yo ki fè nou ap pran GABÈL toujou.Si MATELI te ateri nou t ap ka siviv.
Men sa JEB SPRAGUE ,BLAN (lol) ou pa renmen an di lan :
WYNTER ETIENNE has made clear that THE FLRN VIEWED THE MEDIA AS A MAJOR PART OF THEIR STRATEGY.When asked what he needed to lead his movement to triumpn,ETIENNE responded ""GIVE US OUR MEDIA"".
The newspaper.....observed that ""it was not so much PHILIPPE's troops that determined the political battle but the media campaign,the blitzkrieg in which......... participated.

.....recalls ""Local radio stations such as ....also acted as an intelligence service for the paramilitary,describing in detail real time movements and number of reinforcements sent by the government""


Kote mwen mete pwen yo (dot yo) JEB SPRAGUE mete NON.
Mwen chwazi pa fè sa ;nou gen dwa al konsilte LIV lan.

Lè m ap pale de PRÈS lan THUNDER ;NÈG gen dwa di sa yo vle ;men se pou ta ka gen youn ou 2 stasyon radyo ki ka bay lòt son klòch lan tou.
OZETAZINI gen FOX TV men gen MSNBC tou .
Ann AYITI ,se FOX TV sèlman ki genyen!

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Message  ainsi ne soit-il Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 17:34

Sasaye a écrit:
Pou retounen a no mouton:

Kisa Tètmato ta l chèche kay Aristid?
Eske se kk li ta l di doktè a?
Paske li fô lan joure manman moun.
Misye pa p fe sa ankor. L'al pran gwo bet lan main ti-Doc. (lol)

Sa fe kelk jou, Sweet Mickey rekonet fos li devan lot la. Se sa ki fe neg tankou Thunder, Aljebris, elatrey, mande anraje konsa wi. Nou t'ap tande Madan Manigat te al rankontre Aristid, Tet Pyas la (LOL) te reaji kontr Madan Manigat. Sa vle di anpil bagay paske se sel ti doz la gen baz elekte'l e ke li se yon fos lan peyi a. E se pa jodi a. Ki prezidan nou janm tande ki pran 2 koudeta konsa. Poukisa on seri de ti yason chita ap repete vye manti. Men yo gen pou yo aprand anpil de politik. Daye yo te dwe wont le y'ap tande SM pwal we JBA. Yo pa konn de ki sa neg yo pale. Yo te dwe pran leson lan soti Aristid te fe. Li pa t kritike direkteman SM, men li te di ke moun ap kreve de faim, se te yon mesaj pou gouvenman a. Sa Ayisyen yo pa konprand, se ke Tet Kale gen dwa chef d'Eta men li pa gouvenman a. Si w se chef d'Eta, wol ou se verifye itou sa gouvenman ap fe. Se pa chita ap pran kredi pou pye dyondyon k'ap pouse, se bati konsansis pou ka dire. Dotanpliske moman a pi favorabl pou li fini manda'l. Aristid pa t jwenn chans sa yo.

Han! Sasaye, neg la gen madichon, e li konen ke se pawol tre deplase ke li te prononse le li te joure manman lot la lan mikrofon'. Mwen seten ki li eskize'l an prive, e pui, Aristid kom pretr e sitou kom moun ak plis desans pa sipoze fe konen ke misye te mande'l eskiz. Sa te komanse ak Guy Philippe ki te mande padon piblikman men misye Guy se yon pariah. Lan sans sa a, Sweet Mickey fe yon pwen sou Guy Philippe.

Thunder sipoze chanje pesepsyon'l si vreman li pou jistis lan peyi a. Nou pa ka pase yon vi ap reflechi an vagabon e pi se le n'pwal mouri n'ap di nou regret. Le w seye yon bagay plizye fwa li pa reyisi, w sipoze chanje lide w, gad bagay yo sou yon lot fast. Nou pa ka pase 25 ane ap seye asasine karater yon nonm. Sa se yon fwa w fe'l e si sa pa mache w p'ap janm ka reyisi men avek koudeta. JBA kanpe la, li pa gen okin aksyon an jistis k'ap pand sou tet li. JBA se yon irediktibl.

Gen de bagay m'ap tande y'ap di de Aristid, sa vreman chokan. Mwen bije di men kouman neg fe ap repete bagay sa yo, eske yo fe ekspre ou byen eske yo kwe se vre tou d bon.

Poupoupoul li menm, se bay'l yon bwat alimet ak yon boutey gaz vityel pou li mete dife ak tchoul Rico. Anmwey!

Mon konpe li-menm gen ti-problem setansi. L'hiver s'en vient. Il fera tres froid, cette annee. Anmwey!
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Message  Joel Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 18:18

Sa a se vre.
Pa janm gen yon politisyen AYISYEN ki janm sibi yon MATRAKAJ tankou NÈG TABA a.
Se pa jodi an NON.
SE DEPI 2000 ou anvan.JEB SPRAGUE di se yon ""BLITZKRIEG"" MEDYATIK.Pou moun ki pa konnen BLITZKRIEG se te fòm ATAK ,HITLER te konn anplwaye lè li t ap konkeri EWÒP.
Ak fòm ATAK sa a ;menm yon peyi tankou la FRANS ki te gen youn lan pi gwo LAME sou PLANÈT lan ,an 1940 ,te tonbe an 3 SEMÈN.HITLER te atake w ak AVIYASYON ,TANK ak ENFANTRI an menm tan.

Bonòm lan REMAKAB ;menm AMERIKEN yo ki t ap jete l an 2004 te rekonèt sa.Anbasadè AMERIKEN an di ke misye chanje MAS yo a jamè ;si politisyen ki ap vini yo ,pa rekonèt sa ;y ap manje gwo pous.

KANTA MEETING ANT MATELI AK ARISTID LAN E SITOU ""TIMING"" li ;pa gen anyen misterye ladan l.Tou senpman mesye Black Caucus ap reyini semèn sa a.Gen SENATÈ AYISYEN ki envite ;de moun tankou MOYIZ JANCHAL ,MATELI voye DANIEL SUPPLICE.
Pi fò mesye BLACK CAUCUS yo ,se KAVALYE POLKA ARISTID ;anpil ladan yo te konn vizite l ann ekzil lan AFRIK DI SID.Se rezon VIZIT TABA a ,pou montre mesye yo ke l ap pale ak ARISTID.
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Message  ainsi ne soit-il Ven 20 Sep 2013 - 23:29

Mon che mesi pou ekleraj sa sou BC la. Misye konen ke gen 2 blok politik solidaire lan mond la k'ap tand yo. Jes al we Aristid pou dore blazon'l pa p rapote'l plis ke sa si li kontinye lan entansyon retrograd autoritaire li a. Mwen kwe ke ak ANC e BC peyi a ka konte sou resous oganizasyon pou li debloke. Ayiti lan CARICOM, tout je sou bouzen panyol...

Ti mesye yo mande anraje sou forum la paske bato negrye a ap pran dlo. Mwen gen espwa ke Ayiti ap fini pa rezoud ti klik commandeurs ak konde (sa se moun yo bay kondui zombie) sa yo.
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Message  Joel Lun 23 Sep 2013 - 9:01

Bato NEGRIYE an pran DLO ;sa a se vre.
Bagay lan depase DWAT AYISYEN RETROGRAD KÒLÒWÒCH ak tout sa ki ap defann yo.
Nou t ap fè yon diskisyon sou MAL pwotestan FONDAMANTALIS yo ap fè ann AYITI.Sitou MALPWOPTE ki ap apiye travay DWAT AMERIKEN REYAKSYONÈ yo ap fè ak ALYE PWOTESTAN  yo.
Petèt ak PAP sa a ,ak deklarsyon ke misye ap fè ki ap mete LATWOUBLAY lan TÈT DWAT AMERIKEN an ,petèt KATOLIK AYISYEN ;si y ap swiv direksyon CHÈF yo;ka chanje ;men danje an se lan PWOTESTAN FONDAMANTALIS INYORAN an ke li ye.

Men sa yon NÈG ,ki pase anpil tan ann AYITI ;Yon NÈG (BLAN ,LOL) di lan DOMAJ li wè ke PWOTESTAN MISYONÈ AMERIKEN yo ap fè.
PAOLO WOODS di li tande yon MISYONÈ di ke KOLERA ki ap ravaje AYITI an ,ap epaye MOUN ki AKSEPTE JEZI kòm SOVÈ.
WOODS di ke de deklarasyon konsa se MALFEZANS.Misye rele sa VYOLANS PSIKOLOJIK.
Men ki sa misye di repòtè NOUYÒK TIMES lan travay TERIB ke MISYONÈ PWOTESTAN AMERIKEN yo ap fè:

There is such an amount of psychological violence in this.They have the neocolonialist mentality of freeing people from evil.It creates an enormous amount of problems because these MISSIONARIES HAVE SCHOOLS AND MONEY AND MAKE PEOPLE DEPENDENT  
Kanta pou MANBO MARIE LOURDES JN PIERRE.
AYIBOBO pou wou.AYITI ap libere anba MALFRA sa yo ak MOUN tankou w:

www.lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/a-haitian-state-of-mind/?hp

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Message  Thunder Mar 24 Sep 2013 - 8:27

Mwen pa etone pou anpil nan jan de reyaksyon sa yo, yo tipikman Titidis. Titidis yo pa abitye ak jan de bagay sa yo, se ak represyon sistematik kont opozan yo ke yo abitye sèlman. An 1991, premye sa ke Aristide te fè se te mete Ertha Trouillot nan prizon ilegalman, se jis apre koudeta a, si m raple m byen, ke manmzèl te lage. En 2001 menm, se te tou pa ansyen prezidan Avril. Aristide pa janm prezidan pou l pa genyen omwen yon ansyen prezidan nan kalòj li. Alò, se nòmal pou moun ki apiye l yo ap poze tèt yo kesyon sou yon fenomèn ke yo jije ki vrèman anòmal. Pou yo menm, "zak" saa ke Martelly fè an se yon "achèt figi". Okontrè mezanmi, se jèn pou sèten nan nou ta montre paske se yon ansyen "NINJA" k ap bay swadizan "demon-ak-rat" yo leson demokrasuuuuuu.
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Message  Thunder Mar 24 Sep 2013 - 8:54

Joel a écrit:
Thunder a écrit:Se legen pou w bay Joel paske ka w ap defann nan pèdi deja. Zafè kontwole radio wou toujou ap repete an se radòt. Se pa mirwa a pou nou kraze, se figi nou pou nou lave.


Mwen ba w legen lan PALE TENTEN.
San KONTWÒL RADYO yo ;nou t al BWA CHAT deja.Se RADYO yo ki fè nou ap pran GABÈL toujou.Si MATELI te ateri nou t ap ka siviv.
Men sa JEB SPRAGUE ,BLAN (lol) ou pa renmen an di lan :
WYNTER ETIENNE  has made clear that THE FLRN VIEWED THE MEDIA AS A MAJOR PART OF THEIR STRATEGY.When asked what he needed to lead his movement to triumpn,ETIENNE responded ""GIVE US OUR MEDIA"".
The newspaper.....observed that ""it was not so much PHILIPPE's troops that determined the political battle but the media campaign,the blitzkrieg in which......... participated.

.....recalls ""Local radio stations such as ....also acted as an intelligence service for the paramilitary,describing in detail real time movements and number of reinforcements sent by the government""


Kote mwen mete pwen yo (dot yo) JEB SPRAGUE mete NON.
Mwen chwazi pa fè sa ;nou gen dwa al konsilte LIV lan.

Lè m ap pale de PRÈS lan THUNDER ;NÈG gen dwa di sa yo vle ;men se pou ta ka gen youn ou 2 stasyon radyo ki ka bay lòt son klòch lan tou.
OZETAZINI gen FOX TV men gen MSNBC tou .
Ann AYITI ,se FOX TV sèlman ki genyen!
Radòt Joel.

Duvalier te genyen pratrikman monopoli radio nan peyi an, kote l te fè an 1986? Lavalas fè omwen 10 lane konsekitif sou pouvwa a, e yo te genyen anpil medya k ap travay pou yo, san konte tout medya leta yo. Youn pa t ka sove l.

Li lè pou nou sispann lonje dwèt sou moun tout jounen. Pifò medya ak journalist sa yo te toujou senpatize ak lavalas, men lè na p kraponnen yo, voye yo an ekzil, bat yo, touye yo paske yo t ap fè ekzakteman sa ke wou menm ap mande an, kise bay lòt moun bay yon lòt son klòch. Mwen di w ankò, se pa mirwa a pou nou kraze, se figi nou pou n lave.

Pou enfòmasyon, Sprague pa kredib. Donk sa li di, toutotan ke omwen 3 lòt endepandan sous pa konfime l, li pa vo anyen.
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Message  Joel Mar 24 Sep 2013 - 15:04

Se enfòmasyon w bay ki kredib ;paske w te toujou la ,lè bagay t ap fèt.

THUNDER;

Pou yon fwa ;yon sèl fwa di m JOUNALIS ke mesye LAVALAS yo te touye ;pa vin di m BRIGNOL LINDOR ou byen JEAN DOMINIQUE non?
Zèl ZWAZO sa a kase ,mwen pa kwè li ka vole ankò.

Kanta JEB SPRAGUE menm ;ou pa kwè l ,mwen menm mwen kwè l ;paske m ap di l ankò ,misye bay PRÈV ;pi fò enfòmasyon li bay se lan DEPÈCH ANBASAD AMERIKEN ak mesye w yo ki ouvè VANT yo bali.

Mwen di w ankò bagay sa yo AKADEMIK tankou AMERIKEN yo di ;lè tout bagay ka diskite lan PEYI an ;mesye w yo pa p gen anyen diferan pou yo fè se KRAZE RAK.
Nou genyen pou nou DISPARÈT menm jan ak DWAT DOMINIKEN an.
TRUJILLO te mouri ,BALAGUER ak FACHIS li yo te pran la RELÈV ,men lè ENPERYALIS lan LAGE yo ouvètman an 1996 ou pa tande yo ankò!

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Message  Joel Mar 24 Sep 2013 - 15:59

Bon THUNDER;
Kòm se SPRAGUE ou pa vle kwè kite m di w sa PETER HALLWARD yon BRITANIK di lan LIV li an ""DAMMING THE FLOOD-HAITI AND THE POLITICS OF CONTAIMENT"".
Misye nonmen STASYON RADYO yo ;ki lès ki mèt yo ou byen KONEKSYON yo.
Misye bay eksplikasyon DETAYE.
Lan PAJ 109 ,misye kontinye pou l di.

[b]Towards the end of 2003 notes ISABEL MC DONALD ""The ANMH publicly announced that it had banned the PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF HAITI from its members stsations airwaves.Mc DONALD has interviewed many o the leading figures in the HAITIAN MEDIA[ and the anti-ARISTIDE opposition and demonstrated the quite remarkable integration of the one with the other.
Back in the days when the ARBENZ government was destabilized in GUATEMALA ....remembers opposition had to organize their own radio to poison the mind of the people .Now they can count on all those radio stations that belong to the HAITIAN BOURGEOISIE to do the job for them"".
Their job was made infinitely easier when one of the country's only genuinely independent journalists JEAN DOMINIQUE was mysteriously murdered in APRIL 2000,a few weeks before the decisive legislative elections in MAY /b]

THUNDER ;
Menm yon OGANIZASYON SANTRIS tankou INTER AMERICAN DIALOGUE te wè e kritike WÒL PRÈS lan e yo pa t pro ARISTIDE ""BY ANY MEANS"".
Ou pa kwè JEB SPRAGUE ,ou pa kwè PETER HALLWARD non plis;ou pa kwè INTERAMERICAN DIALOGUE ou byen COHA ou byen.....
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Message  Thunder Jeu 26 Sep 2013 - 0:54

Joel a écrit:THUNDER;

Pou yon fwa ;yon sèl fwa di m JOUNALIS ke mesye LAVALAS yo te touye ;pa vin di m BRIGNOL LINDOR ou byen JEAN DOMINIQUE non?
Zèl ZWAZO sa a kase ,mwen pa kwè li ka vole ankò.
Se sa m konnen Joel. Zèl sa yo kase, men w toujou pare pou w mete foto moun ki te mouri nan zòn fwontyè an pa vre? Zèl sa yo p ap janm kase pou wou.

Si wou ka mande ki jounalis ke lavalas te touye, sa vle di ke 2 asasina jounalis pa t sifi, depi yo pa t gen tan touye tout, pa genyen anyen ki grav:?: Question Question 

Ebyen men yon ti lis pasyèl sa ke nou menm lavalas te konn fè rès ke nou pa t gen tan touye yo pase:

Twelve journalists exiled

Paul Ignace Janvier, of the TV station Télémax, left the country in August 2001 after being badly beaten up by presumed supporters of the ruling Fanmi Lavalas party. Janvier had refused an offer in October 2000 to work at Télé Ti Moun, a TV station funded by the Aristide Foundation for Democracy, and had since been regularly harassed. A job had been offered to several journalists at Télémax.

Ulrick Justin, the correspondent of Radio Vision 2000 in Léogane, left the country on 16 December after several weeks of receiving death threats from local politicians close to Fanmi Lavalas who regarded him as an "enemy of the people," saying that he was working against the government. At the end of October, a meeting was reportedly held at which it was decided to kill him. On 9 November, Justin had covered the lynching by a crowd of demonstrators of Panel Rénélus, arrested the previous day by police, who were suspected of having handed him over to the crowd. Rénélus was being investigated for his alleged role in the murder of radio journalist Jean Dominique.

Ten more journalists left Haiti at the end of December. They were Phares Duverné, Robert Philomé, Midi Pierre Richard and Yves Clausel Alexis, all of Radio Vision 2000, Abel Descollines of Radio Galaxie, Carlo Sainristil (news editor) and Wien-Weibert Arthus (reporter) of Radio Caraïbes FM, Gaston Janvier of the Réseau caribéen de presse (Recap), Garry Bélizaire of the radio station Signal FM and Franceline Léonard, correspondent of Radio Métropole in the southwestern town of Les Cayes. Their departure came after an apparent attempted coup d’etat on December 17, when the regime called several thousand supporters of President Aristide into the streets. Armed with machetes, sticks and guns, they threatened journalists from several radio stations, accusing them of being too critical of the government. Duverné and Philomé were forced to shout "Long live Aristide!" by the demonstrators, who threatened to kill them. In the early hours of 17 December, about 20 armed men attacked the presidential palace in Port-au-Prince. A few hours later, security forces regained control of the building but most of the attackers managed to get away. Several opposition premises were burned down by government supporters.

Thirteen journalists attacked

In late March 2001, Valéry Numa, Jean Sévère, Marc Sony, Yves Clausel Alexis and Robert Philomé, all of Radio Vision 2000, were set upon as they were covering a demonstration in front of an opposition party office. Some of the protesters, who said they supported President Aristide’s Fanmi Lavalas party, attacked the journalists and ordered them to pack up their equipment and leave.

Jean-Marie Mayard, correspondent of Radio Métropole in St Marc (95 km northwest of Port-au-Prince), was attacked on 29 September by members of the Bale Wouze (Clean Sweep) organisation, which is close to Fanmi Lavalas, as he was going home after an Aristide rally. He was insulted and threatened and his tape recorder smashed. "If you keep out putting out news that isn’t pro-Lavalas, you’re a dead man," one of the attackers warned him.

Jean-Robert Delciné, of Radio Haïti Inter, was attacked on 12 October by police in the Port-au-Prince slum of Cité Soleil. He was hit and threatened with death by Insp. Yrvens César and another policeman, who pointed a gun at him and confiscated his tape-recorder. The journalist had come across the two policemen as they were about to summarily execute someone.

Franceline Léonard, correspondent of Radio Métropole in Les Cayes, was beaten while out reporting on 17 November by a local pro-Lavalas leader, Romain Hilaire, who smashed her tape-recorder before passers-by overpowered him. Police who were present did not intervene. Hilaire had threatened and attacked the journalist in February 1999. Léonard, who said she was regularly a target of threats and attacks, said Hilaire accused her of giving unfavourable news coverage of the ruling party.

Evrard Saint-Armand, of Radio Kiskeya, was attacked and taken at gunpoint by a plainclothes policeman to the offices of the Anti-Gang section of the Port-au-Prince police on 25 November. The journalist had just witnessed a dispute which ended in the death of a young man. Police accused him of being responsible and he was hit several times while being questioned. The Haitian Journalists’ Association (AJH) said police "knew perfectly well he was present as a journalist" and accused them of trying to "discredit" the press. Saint-Armand was freed a few hours later after the intervention of the radio’s management and senior police officials. His equipment was smashed, preventing him from being able to broadcast the recording he had made of his arrest.

Ernst Océan of Radio Vision 2000 was attacked and threatened with death by members of a pro-government grassroots organisation on 29 November who fired shots at him and punctured the tyres of his car. They accused him of working for the opposition Convergence Démocratique.

Montigène Sincère, a reporter for the programme "Haïti Focus" broadcast in the United States and a former parliamentary election candidate, and his son Daniel Sincère, of "Haiti Focus" and Voice of America, were arrested by police in the southern town of Petit-Goâve on 12 December and taken to the local police station, where they were beaten, on grounds they had incited people to violence. The following week, Montigène Sincère’s house was burned down by government supporters. A few days later, another of his sons, Elysée Sincère, the correspondent of Radio Vision 2000 in Petit-Goâve, was forced to go into hiding. The town had been in turmoil since the murder the previous week of journalist Brignol Lindor.

Journalists threatened

Paul Raymond and René Civil, leaders of two "popular organisations" close to President Aristide, called on 9 January 2001 for the murder of Liliane Pierre-Paul, programme director and co-owner of Radio Kiskeya, Max Chauvet, managing editor of the daily Le Nouvelliste, and several members of the opposition. The two men accused them of featuring on a list, supposedly drawn up by the opposition, of more than 100 people who, they charged, wanted to set up a parallel government to counter the return to the presidency on 7 February of Jean-Bertrand Aristide. During their press conference, they also accused Pierre-Paul of talking on the air about the "disputed parliament" when referring to the legislature produced by the May 2000 elections, whose results, as announced by Fanmi Lavalas, were questioned by the opposition and the international community. A few hours after the press conference, a can of petrol was thrown into the courtyard of Radio Kiskeya but did not catch fire. In previous weeks, the radio had received anonymous phone threats.

Roosevelt Benjamin, news editor of the Port-au-Prince radio station Signal FM, received phone calls on 9 June warning him that he was "meddling in matters" that did "not concern" him. In the next two days, he got three more such calls. In his programme "Moment Vérité" on 9 June, he had said that a new organisation, Mouvement de la Société Civile Majoritaire (Majority Civil Society Movement), was controlled by people close to senators of the ruling Fanmi Lavalas party. A few weeks earlier, armed men showed up in the neighbourhood where Michel Soukar, another journalist at the station, lived and asked people where his house and car were. In March, during pro-Lavalas demonstrations, unidentified people on motor-cycles came to the radio station and warned Soukar that he should "expect to be attacked soon."

Confident Fedner, a reporter with the Catholic station Radio Sacré-Cœur and correspondent in the southeastern town of Thiotte of Radio Ginen and Radio Express Continental, received death threats on 27 August after denouncing alleged abuses in the Thiotte town administration. He had already been threatened on 17 July by a security agent at the Thiotte town hall. Since then, he has had threats from a grassroots organisation close to the mayor of Thiotte and Fanmi Lavalas.

Jean-Marie Mayard, the correspondent of Radio Métropole in St Marc, received death threats from members of pro-government grassroots organisations during an opposition demonstration on 29 November. He was accused of not broadcasting news favourable to the government and later picked up by police for no reason and briefly detained.

Thony Bélizaire, an Agence France-Presse photographer, Gérin Alexandre and Jean-Elie Moléus, both reporters from Radio Caraïbes FM, and Guyler Delva, president of the Haitian Journalists’ Association (AJH), were stopped in the street in Port-au-Prince on 17 December by emotional and armed Fanmi Lavalas supporters who had come out into the streets to support the government in the wake of an apparent attempted coup d’etat. The crowd wanted to know who the journalists in the street worked for. "We’d’ve killed you if you’d worked for Radio Caraïbes FM," some of them told Maxeau Exil, of the online news agency Haiti Press Network, who they threatened with a gun. Roger Damas, of Radio Ibo, managed to escape after being forced to hand over his press card and cell-phone to demonstrators who accused the radio of backing the opposition. Several journalists stayed at home that day, fearing reprisals. In the provinces, Alix Michel Félix, head of Radio Grand’Anse, and Duc Jonathan Joseph, correspondent of Radio Métropole in Gonaïves, were attacked by government supporters. Over the next few days, at least a dozen journalists were forced to go into hiding.

Thony Jean Ténor, a pro-Lavalas Haitian living in Florida, said on the government-run Radio Nationale on 19 December that journalist Ives-Marie Chanel worked for the opposition party Organisation du Peuple en Lutte (OPL - Organisation of the People in Struggle). Interviewed by the station’s news editor, Jean Th. Pierre-Louis, he said Chanel was one of those "disappointed" by the failure of the 17 December apparent coup attempt. On 18 December, Chanel had been heard on Kafou, a Haitian community radio station in Florida, deploring the dangerous situation in Haiti for journalists. The head of Kafou, Alex Saint-Surin, said that since the broadcast he had been attacked by pro-Lavalas stations in Florida. Chanel is boss of the Sans-Souci FM radio station, programme director for Radio Ibo and correspondent in Haiti for the Inter Press Service (IPS) news agency and Reporters Without Borders.

On 24 December, two provincial organisations, the Association of Journalists of the Southeast and the Gonaives Media Workers’ Association, denounced threats and intimidation by government supporters against journalists in these areas.

Pressure and obstruction

On 17 December 2001, the day of an apparent attempted coup d’etat, four privately-owned radio stations in the capital - Radio Métropole, Radio Vision 2000, Radio Caraïbes FM and Radio Kiskeya - went off the air

for security reasons, while others, such as Radio Galaxie, Signal FM, and Radio Ibo, stopped broadcasting news. Some stations said they had been threatened, while others deplored the general atmosphere of lawlessness with armed Fanmi Lavalas supporters on the streets in support of the government. Some Fanmi Lavalas supporters attacked Radio Caraïbes FM, smashing the windows of cars at the station. Two vehicles, belonging to the TV station Télémax and Radio Métropole, were also damaged near the presidential palace. In the provinces, Radio Maxima, in the northern city of Cap-Haïtien, was forced to go off the air for several days after being threatened by members of pro-government grassroots organisations. The online news agency Haïti Press Network reported that radio stations in the southwestern town of Jérémie faced a similar situation. In subsequent days, the radios gradually resumed their programmes, but Radio Caraïbes FM announced it was suspending its news broadcasts until January 2002.
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