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RETRO: MERIKEN FLANKE KOLI ENKONBRAN ARISTIDE AN EGZIL FRANSE DI YO PA LADANN
Le Secrétaire d'Etat US, chargé de démissionner J.-B. Aristide |
Comment Jean-Bertrand Aristide a été poussé par les Etats-Unis à quitter le pouvoir en Haïti |
7 mars 2004 |
"LE MONDE" -- Démission volontaire face à une situation intenable ou "coup d’Etat moderne" fomenté par les Etats-Unis, avec "la complicité de la France", comme l’affirme Jean-Bertrand Aristide depuis son exil centre-africain ? La controverse internationale sur les circonstances exactes du départ du président haïtien n’est pas près de s’arrêter. Plusieurs milliers de ses partisans ont manifesté, vendredi 5 mars au centre de Port-au-Prince, pour exiger son retour. Venus des bidonvilles de Cité-Soleil, de La Saline et de Bel Air, ils scandaient : "Qu’on le veuille ou non, il faut qu’il revienne". "Bush terroriste", criait aussi la foule devant l’ambassade des Etats-Unis protégée par les marines. Les versions de plusieurs protagonistes et témoins du départ, dont certains proches collaborateurs de l’ancien président, confirment qu’il a pris la décision à la suite de fortes pressions internationales. "Si ce soir, c’est ma démission qui peut empêcher un bain de sang, j’accepte de partir avec l’espoir qu’il y aura la vie et non la mort", écrit-il dans la lettre qu’il a signée juste avant de quitter Haïti, le dimanche 29 février à l’aube. Outre la progression des rebelles du Front du Nord l’élément décisif a sans doute été le retrait de la compagnie américaine Steele Foundation, chargée de sa garde rapprochée. "L’affaire a probablement été réglée par un coup de téléphone de Washington à San Francisco -où se trouve le siège de Steele-", suppute un diplomate. Il y a quelques semaines, le président Aristide avait demandé des renforts à la Steele, qui lui avaient été refusés. L’ambassadeur des Etats-Unis, James Foley, avait dit au responsable de cette garde prétorienne de 25 vétérans des forces spéciales américaines que les marines ne viendraient pas à leur secours s’ils étaient débordés par les rebelles. CARGAISON D’ARMES Plusieurs indices indiquent que M. Aristide souhaitait résister mais n’en a pas eu les moyens. Une cargaison d’armes commandée en Afrique du Sud est arrivée trop tard, après son départ. Durant la semaine qui a précédé sa chute, les "chimères", les bandes armées de partisans du président, ont semé la terreur à Port-au-Prince, tandis qu’il appelait la communauté internationale à intervenir devant les caméras de CNN. Le président haïtien espérait que l’intervention de forces internationales désarmerait ses opposants et lui permettrait de rester au pouvoir, conformément au plan présenté par la Communauté des pays des Caraïbes (Caricom). Mais il était déjà trop tard. Trois jours après que la France eut demandé la démission de M. Aristide, les Etats-Unis lui imputèrent à leur tour la responsabilité de la crise. Son sort était désormais scellé. Samedi 28 février, à 19 h 30, l’ambassadeur Foley arrive à la Villa d’accueil, siège des bureaux du premier ministre Yvon Neptune. Fait inhabituel, un marine l’accompagne jusqu’à la porte de M. Neptune. L’entretien dure plus d’une heure. Le chef du gouvernement en ressort l’air très préoccupé. A ses collaborateurs, qui sont à la recherche d’essence, il lâche que "l’affaire est très grave". Un peu plus de deux heures plus tard, à 23 heures, il reçoit un appel de Jean-Bertrand Aristide lui demandant de le rejoindre d’urgence à sa résidence de Tabarre, dans la banlieue de Port-au-Prince. Dans un salon, il y retrouve le ministre des finances, Gustave Faubert, la directrice de la Fondation Aristide, Mirlande Lubérice, et quelques autres proches. Durant plusieurs heures, ils ne verront pas le président et son épouse Mildred, qui sont à l’étage en train de préparer leurs affaires et d’appeler leurs amis lobbyistes aux Etats-Unis. Lorsque M. Aristide apparaît enfin, vers 3 heures du matin dimanche, il leur annonce que tout est fini et qu’un avion l’attend. Peu après 4 heures, Luis Moreno, le numéro deux de l’ambassade des Etats-Unis, arrive avec six agents spéciaux du service de protection diplomatique. M. Moreno connaît bien Haïti, où il a été en poste il y a dix ans, lorsque les troupes américaines ont ramené M. Aristide au palais présidentiel, et les dossiers de la drogue, dont on dit qu’ils ont été utilisés pour faire pression sur le président haïtien, mis en cause par Beaudoin Jacques Kétant, un gros bonnet sous les verrous à Miami. Haïti est devenue une plaque tournante du narcotrafic. Les rumeurs impliquent des autorités locales à tous les niveaux. La fortune accumulée par M. Aristide restant inexpliquée, les supputations vont bon train. Comme pour le général Manuel Noriega au Panama, les Américains détiendraient-ils des éléments compromettants ? "Lorsque nous sommes arrivés, les bagages étaient prêts. J’ai dit "Vous savez pourquoi nous sommes ici". Aristide a répondu "Oui, bien sûr"", a raconté Luis Moreno à deux journalistes du Chicago Tribune et du Washington Post. Le diplomate a demandé à M. Aristide si sa lettre de démission était prête. "Vous avez ma parole", a-t-il répondu. Le couple présidentiel a pris place à bord d’un gros 4x4 de l’ambassade tandis que Luis Moreno et les agents s’engouffraient dans un autre. Il fait encore nuit lorsqu’ils arrivent sur le tarmac de l’aéroport, proche de la résidence présidentielle. Informé de la prochaine arrivée de l’avion affrété par le gouvernement américain, M. Moreno se dirige vers le véhicule où se trouve le président Aristide. Il lui remet sa lettre de démission, rédigée en créole. "Je lui ai serré la main et il est parti." L’avion blanc a décollé vers 6 h 15. M. Aristide ne connaissait pas sa destination. D’après l’un de ses collaborateurs, on lui avait dit que ce serait l’Afrique du Sud. Selon le diplomate américain, les échanges ont été courtois. "Il n’y a eu ni menace, ni pression physique d’aucune sorte. Il ne s’agit certainement pas d’un coup." "Dans la nuit du 28 au 29, j’ai très bien dormi", se rappelle l’ambassadeur de France Thierry Burkard. Il affirme qu’il n’a eu connaissance du départ de Jean-Bertrand Aristide que vers 6 heures du matin, par un appel du responsable de la Croix-Rouge lui annonçant l’annulation d’un convoi. |
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Tout se dezenfòmasyon.
THIERRY BUCKHARDT te trè AKTIF lan KOUDETA a.
Pi AKTIF anpil ke ETAZINI menm.
JEB SPRAGUE ak PETER HALLWARD gen PAJ apre PAJ lan AJISMAN la FRANS lan KOUDETA a.
Depi an 2002 ,la FRANS t ap fè REPETISYON an FÒS lan zile yo rele MARIE GALANTE lan pou l te fè yon ENTÈVANSYON MISKLE si an ka pa ka ;sètadi si ARISTID ta bloke mesye GUY PHILIPPE yo.
Se pa t TWOUP AMERIKEN ou t ap wè ;se t ap TWOUP FRANSE.
Epitou,se pa AMERIKEN yo ki te òganize entèvansyon MINISTA a se te FRANSE yo.
Se te byen SENP ,la FRANS te bay ETAZINI kouvèti ,paske si se ETAZINI ki t al mande pou peyi AMERIK LATIN yo patisipe ,yo pa t ap fè sa ;akòz de MEFYANS yo genyen de ETAZINI an.
Epi ATIK sa a te ekri le 7 MAS 2004 mwen doute ke menm REPÒTÈ sa a t ap ekri l 10ZAN apre apre tout sa ki devwale.
Epi NÈG ap di ke ARISTID t ap mete BÒL BLE l devan FRANSE yo.Pandan 2zyèm ADMINISTRASYON ARISTID lan ,li te KLÈMAN DESIDE pou l mete PYE l lan BOUNDA enperyalis sou pwèl FRANSE yo.
THIERRY BUCKHARDT te trè AKTIF lan KOUDETA a.
Pi AKTIF anpil ke ETAZINI menm.
JEB SPRAGUE ak PETER HALLWARD gen PAJ apre PAJ lan AJISMAN la FRANS lan KOUDETA a.
Depi an 2002 ,la FRANS t ap fè REPETISYON an FÒS lan zile yo rele MARIE GALANTE lan pou l te fè yon ENTÈVANSYON MISKLE si an ka pa ka ;sètadi si ARISTID ta bloke mesye GUY PHILIPPE yo.
Se pa t TWOUP AMERIKEN ou t ap wè ;se t ap TWOUP FRANSE.
Epitou,se pa AMERIKEN yo ki te òganize entèvansyon MINISTA a se te FRANSE yo.
Se te byen SENP ,la FRANS te bay ETAZINI kouvèti ,paske si se ETAZINI ki t al mande pou peyi AMERIK LATIN yo patisipe ,yo pa t ap fè sa ;akòz de MEFYANS yo genyen de ETAZINI an.
Epi ATIK sa a te ekri le 7 MAS 2004 mwen doute ke menm REPÒTÈ sa a t ap ekri l 10ZAN apre apre tout sa ki devwale.
Epi NÈG ap di ke ARISTID t ap mete BÒL BLE l devan FRANSE yo.Pandan 2zyèm ADMINISTRASYON ARISTID lan ,li te KLÈMAN DESIDE pou l mete PYE l lan BOUNDA enperyalis sou pwèl FRANSE yo.
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Wou pran nan pièj se te pou demontre Koman w se yon mantèrrrrr, kap bay move manti
Mezanmiro Meriken se tilezanj, se fot a mechan Franse yo.
Mezanmiro Meriken se tilezanj, se fot a mechan Franse yo.
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Se wou ki pran lan PYÈJ ,paske mwen pa janm di ke MERIKEN ti LÈZANJ.
MERIKEN pa janm di li se ti LEZANJ.
Mwen gen preske 50 an m ap viv OZETAZINI ;mwen konnen yo pa ti LEZANJ.
DIFERANS ant OUMENM ak FRANKOFOU yo ;souvan se MERIKEN yo ki konn premye ap kritike TÈT yo.
Lè mwen di mwen kont ENPERYALIS ;mwen kont tout ENPERYALIS!
Gen MERIKEN de SOUCH ki gen jenerasyon y ap viv OZETAZINI ki kont mene ENPERYALIS MERIKEN an.
MAJISTRA NOUYÒK lan BILL DIBLASIO lè l te JÈN li te ale lan NICARAGUA menm pou l konbat ENPERYALIS MERIKEN an
Se pou ENPERYALIS AMERIKEN yo kite AYITI an REPO;kanta ENPERYALIS FRANSE yo yomenm ,mwen di ABOANNOTCHO lan DENGONN yo.
Se pou yo retire KÒ yo ""RETIRE TOI SATAN"" lan LANG yo;pa menm pwoche ,KANPE LWEN!
Men sa pi gwo JOUNAL MERIKEN an ;pi gwo JOUNAL sou PLANÈT lan ,dapre LE MONDE di sou EVÈNMAN 2004 lan yo.
Nou pa p menm oze pale de bagay sa yo sou JOUNAL ak RADYO ann AYITI:
www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/international/americas/29haiti.html?pagewanted=all
Ou konn li ANGLE;w a wè ke AMERIKEN yo rekonèt kilpabilite yo lan KOUDETA a.Se ANBASADÈ AMERIKEN an BRIAN DEAN CURRAN ki te rekonèt KILPABILITE yo.
BRIAN DEAN CURRAN ke yo te fòse kite PÒS li an 2003 ,te KONT KOUDETA a.
SE POU DI W!
MERIKEN pa janm di li se ti LEZANJ.
Mwen gen preske 50 an m ap viv OZETAZINI ;mwen konnen yo pa ti LEZANJ.
DIFERANS ant OUMENM ak FRANKOFOU yo ;souvan se MERIKEN yo ki konn premye ap kritike TÈT yo.
Lè mwen di mwen kont ENPERYALIS ;mwen kont tout ENPERYALIS!
Gen MERIKEN de SOUCH ki gen jenerasyon y ap viv OZETAZINI ki kont mene ENPERYALIS MERIKEN an.
MAJISTRA NOUYÒK lan BILL DIBLASIO lè l te JÈN li te ale lan NICARAGUA menm pou l konbat ENPERYALIS MERIKEN an
Se pou ENPERYALIS AMERIKEN yo kite AYITI an REPO;kanta ENPERYALIS FRANSE yo yomenm ,mwen di ABOANNOTCHO lan DENGONN yo.
Se pou yo retire KÒ yo ""RETIRE TOI SATAN"" lan LANG yo;pa menm pwoche ,KANPE LWEN!
Men sa pi gwo JOUNAL MERIKEN an ;pi gwo JOUNAL sou PLANÈT lan ,dapre LE MONDE di sou EVÈNMAN 2004 lan yo.
Nou pa p menm oze pale de bagay sa yo sou JOUNAL ak RADYO ann AYITI:
www.nytimes.com/2006/01/29/international/americas/29haiti.html?pagewanted=all
Ou konn li ANGLE;w a wè ke AMERIKEN yo rekonèt kilpabilite yo lan KOUDETA a.Se ANBASADÈ AMERIKEN an BRIAN DEAN CURRAN ki te rekonèt KILPABILITE yo.
BRIAN DEAN CURRAN ke yo te fòse kite PÒS li an 2003 ,te KONT KOUDETA a.
SE POU DI W!
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Se sa meriken tankou ti lezanj deklare se la Frans ki lakoz, ki mande nou fè koudeta.
AYITI CHERURRRR MWEN REGRETE, MANDE W PADON, METE POU MECHAN FRANSE YO.
POS SA RELAKS BON KOMEDI
AYITI CHERURRRR MWEN REGRETE, MANDE W PADON, METE POU MECHAN FRANSE YO.
POS SA RELAKS BON KOMEDI
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Ou toujou bezwen pete KONT alòs ke se yon bagay ki ka diskite TÈT FRÈT.
Si se MERIKEN sèlman yo t ap BLAME ou pa t ap gen PWOBLÈM.
Mwen di w ankò AMERIKEN yo rekonèt wòl yo lan KOUDETA a.
Se youn lan REZON ke AMERIKEN yo ka fè PROGRÈ lan anpil BAGAY.
Pa egzanp ,CLINTON te ale GUATEMALA pou l prezante pèp GUATEMALTÈK lan ESKIZ pou koudeta 1954 kont JACOBO ARBENZ;yon KOUDETA ke GUATEMALA poko janm reprann li apre 60 AN.
MERIKEN yo rekonèt WÒL yo lan KOUDETA 2004 lan.Si w li ATIK lan wa wè yo sòti pou yo BLAME STANLEY LUCAS ak KONPAYÈL li yo lan IRI.
Li ATIK lan BYEN.
FRANSE yo te pi AKTIF lan KOUDETA a.Yo te gen plis KONTAK ak GNBis yo ann AYITI.
Yo te voye THIERRY BUCKHART espesyalman pou sa.
Se pa okenn REVELASYON m ap fè se BAGAY ki KONI.
BUCKHART te di l ap kapote ARISTID.
Lan GONAYIV ak SENMAK Sèvis SEKRÈ FRANSE yo te trè AKTIF an 2003.
Ale mande ki jan AMIOT METAYER te mouri.Li liv JEB SPRAGUE lan ak liv PETER HALLWARD lan ,wa gen yon IDE!
Lan LIV li an ""DAMMING THE FLOOD-HAITI AND THE POLITICS OF CONTAINMENT"" Peter HALLWARD di ke NÈG ki t ap mennen OPERASYON ENTELIJANS pou FRANSE yo de ANBASAD FRANSE an se te yon NÈG yo rele ERIC BOSC.
Peter HALLWARD di ke a pati de SEPTANM 2003 ,misye te PATOU lan peyi an sitou lan GONAYIV.
Si se MERIKEN sèlman yo t ap BLAME ou pa t ap gen PWOBLÈM.
Mwen di w ankò AMERIKEN yo rekonèt wòl yo lan KOUDETA a.
Se youn lan REZON ke AMERIKEN yo ka fè PROGRÈ lan anpil BAGAY.
Pa egzanp ,CLINTON te ale GUATEMALA pou l prezante pèp GUATEMALTÈK lan ESKIZ pou koudeta 1954 kont JACOBO ARBENZ;yon KOUDETA ke GUATEMALA poko janm reprann li apre 60 AN.
MERIKEN yo rekonèt WÒL yo lan KOUDETA 2004 lan.Si w li ATIK lan wa wè yo sòti pou yo BLAME STANLEY LUCAS ak KONPAYÈL li yo lan IRI.
Li ATIK lan BYEN.
FRANSE yo te pi AKTIF lan KOUDETA a.Yo te gen plis KONTAK ak GNBis yo ann AYITI.
Yo te voye THIERRY BUCKHART espesyalman pou sa.
Se pa okenn REVELASYON m ap fè se BAGAY ki KONI.
BUCKHART te di l ap kapote ARISTID.
Lan GONAYIV ak SENMAK Sèvis SEKRÈ FRANSE yo te trè AKTIF an 2003.
Ale mande ki jan AMIOT METAYER te mouri.Li liv JEB SPRAGUE lan ak liv PETER HALLWARD lan ,wa gen yon IDE!
Lan LIV li an ""DAMMING THE FLOOD-HAITI AND THE POLITICS OF CONTAINMENT"" Peter HALLWARD di ke NÈG ki t ap mennen OPERASYON ENTELIJANS pou FRANSE yo de ANBASAD FRANSE an se te yon NÈG yo rele ERIC BOSC.
Peter HALLWARD di ke a pati de SEPTANM 2003 ,misye te PATOU lan peyi an sitou lan GONAYIV.
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Mezanmiro kom gwo jounalis repotè lavalas di
FRANSE yo te pi AKTIF lan KOUDETA.
Wi fout se komsi Franse yo pi vit, pase yon vitès siperyè, yo pase devan Meriken, yo pran kontrol pou flanke Aistide yon pataswèl.
Pandan ke meriken ap pleniche, se fot a Franse yo, se pa nou mezanmi.
Men poukisa bann politisyen 2pik sayo pran moun, A pa forom ti Mak se ti komik kap voye tenten, kap di betiz pou fè tèt yo plezi.
Pa gen anyen ki rete pou fè meriken leve 2 men yo anlè pou lwa lavalas pa manje yo.
Kanta Franse yo sanble yo byen benyen, byen poudre kont lwa lavalas yo
FRANSE yo te pi AKTIF lan KOUDETA.
Wi fout se komsi Franse yo pi vit, pase yon vitès siperyè, yo pase devan Meriken, yo pran kontrol pou flanke Aistide yon pataswèl.
Pandan ke meriken ap pleniche, se fot a Franse yo, se pa nou mezanmi.
Men poukisa bann politisyen 2pik sayo pran moun, A pa forom ti Mak se ti komik kap voye tenten, kap di betiz pou fè tèt yo plezi.
Pa gen anyen ki rete pou fè meriken leve 2 men yo anlè pou lwa lavalas pa manje yo.
Kanta Franse yo sanble yo byen benyen, byen poudre kont lwa lavalas yo
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Se TIPIK jan w wap plede reponn lan.
Se nou ki kòz AYITI lan pwen li ye ap plede admire FO PWOFÈT.
NEW YORK TIMES pa pro LAVALAS ,li se JOUNAL ESTABLISHMENT AMERIKEN.
Si w vle mwen pral lan ACHIV yo pou w wè jan yo te KOUVRI BAGAY ki t ap rive AYITI.
Pa egzanp gen yon NÈG NOTWAMAN anti-LAVALAS ki konn di sou RADYO ke te vin gen MOUVMAN AME ,lè ARISTID pa t vle pale ak OPOZISYON an.
Ou li NEW YORK TIMES depi 2002 e ou wè se pa t vre.
Kanta JOUNAL AMERIKEN yo ,depi JIYÈ 2004 yo te wè MEN AMERIKEN lan KOUDETA a.
HUFFINGTON POST ,trè popilè ISIT OZETAZINI di sa depi JIYÈ 2004.
YO PA LAVALAS.
Kanta la FRANS ,lepandyè kontinye ap bali kanson ,yon pwisans 2zèm RAN jounen jodi an ;m ap repete l ankò li te trè aktif lan KOUDETA a.
A la diferans ke AMERIKEN yo rekonèt WÒL yo e gen ladan yo ki KONDANE WÒL sa a alòs ke ZÒT pa vle rekonèt WÒL NEFAS FRANSE yo te jwe.
FRANSE yo se yon PWISANS MALSEN ;tankou m te di l FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT te rekonèt sa depi an 1944;e la FRANS gen chans ke l te MOURI an 1945.
Nou pa bezwen la FRANS ,Se pou l retire KÒ l ;li ap fè NOU ANPIL PLIS MAL ke BYEN.
Epi m ap di ankò ale chache ki jan AMIOT METAYER mouri,gen anpil DWÈT ki pwente sou la FRANS men se ann ANGLE N ap jwenn sa ki di!
Se nou ki kòz AYITI lan pwen li ye ap plede admire FO PWOFÈT.
NEW YORK TIMES pa pro LAVALAS ,li se JOUNAL ESTABLISHMENT AMERIKEN.
Si w vle mwen pral lan ACHIV yo pou w wè jan yo te KOUVRI BAGAY ki t ap rive AYITI.
Pa egzanp gen yon NÈG NOTWAMAN anti-LAVALAS ki konn di sou RADYO ke te vin gen MOUVMAN AME ,lè ARISTID pa t vle pale ak OPOZISYON an.
Ou li NEW YORK TIMES depi 2002 e ou wè se pa t vre.
Kanta JOUNAL AMERIKEN yo ,depi JIYÈ 2004 yo te wè MEN AMERIKEN lan KOUDETA a.
HUFFINGTON POST ,trè popilè ISIT OZETAZINI di sa depi JIYÈ 2004.
YO PA LAVALAS.
Kanta la FRANS ,lepandyè kontinye ap bali kanson ,yon pwisans 2zèm RAN jounen jodi an ;m ap repete l ankò li te trè aktif lan KOUDETA a.
A la diferans ke AMERIKEN yo rekonèt WÒL yo e gen ladan yo ki KONDANE WÒL sa a alòs ke ZÒT pa vle rekonèt WÒL NEFAS FRANSE yo te jwe.
FRANSE yo se yon PWISANS MALSEN ;tankou m te di l FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT te rekonèt sa depi an 1944;e la FRANS gen chans ke l te MOURI an 1945.
Nou pa bezwen la FRANS ,Se pou l retire KÒ l ;li ap fè NOU ANPIL PLIS MAL ke BYEN.
Epi m ap di ankò ale chache ki jan AMIOT METAYER mouri,gen anpil DWÈT ki pwente sou la FRANS men se ann ANGLE N ap jwenn sa ki di!
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Pase ATIK sa a anba BOUCH ou.
Sa a se yon ENTELEKTYÈL ,yon EKONOMIS AMERIKEN te di lan HUFFINGTON POST ak gran JOUNAL BRITANIK lan THE GUARDIAN!
Espesyalite MARK WEISBROT se AMERIK LATIN.
Misye pa LAVALAS.
Se diferans ant AMERIKEN yo ak FRANSE yo:
U.S. Government Still Not Ready for Democracy in Haiti
Posted: 03/14/2012 1:23 pm EDT Updated: 05/14/2012 5:12 am EDT
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When the "international community" blames Haiti for its political troubles, the underlying concept is usually that Haitians are not ready for democracy. But it is Washington that is not ready for democracy in Haiti.
Haitians have been ready for democracy for many decades. They were ready when they got massacred at polling stations, trying to vote in 1987 after the fall of the murderous Duvalier dictatorship. They were ready again in 1990, when they voted by a two-thirds majority for the leftist Catholic priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide, only to see him overthrown seven months later in a military coup. The coup was later found to be organized by people paid by the United States Central Intelligence Agency.
Haitians were ready again in 2000 when they elected Aristide a second time with 90 percent of the vote. But Washington would not accept the results of that election either, so it organized a cut-off of international aid to the government and poured millions into the opposition. As Paul Farmer (Bill Clinton's Deputy Special Envoy of the UN to Haiti) testified to the U.S. Congress in 2010:
"Choking off assistance for development and for the provision of basic services also choked off oxygen to the government, which was the intention all along: to dislodge the Aristide administration."
In 2004 Aristide was whisked away in one of those planes that the U.S. government has used for "extraordinary rendition," and taken involuntarily to the Central African Republic.
Eight years later, the U.S. government is still not ready for democracy in Haiti. On March 3, the Miami Herald reported that "Former Haiti President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is once again in the cross hairs of the U.S. government, this time for allegedly pocketing millions of dollars in bribes from Miami businesses... "
Everything about these latest allegations smells foul, like the outhouses that haven't been cleaned for months in some of the camps where hundreds of thousands of Haitians displaced by the earthquake still languish.
First, the source: Patrick Joseph was the head of Haiti's national telecommunications company (Teleco) until he was fired by then-President Aristide for corruption in 2003. Fast forward nine years: last month Joseph negotiates a guilty plea with U.S. federal prosecutors for accepting $2.3 million in bribes from U.S. companies. Facing a long prison sentence, he tells them that about half the money was for President Aristide. How convenient. That should knock a few years off his prison time.
Then there is the timing of the new charges. The first indictment in this case, in 2009, doesn't mention Aristide or anyone who could be him. The same is true for the second indictment, in July 2011, which added Patrick Joseph. But the January 2012 indictment mentions an unidentified "Official B" of the Haitian government; and now we are told that "Official B," according to one of the defense attorneys in the case, is Aristide. How does he know? Obviously the U.S. Justice Department, which has no comment on the matter, told him that, so he could tell the press.
Why now? Aristide has been very quiet and has stayed out of politics since his return to Haiti a year ago. He has focused on the University of the Aristide Foundation; closed since the 2004 coup, the medical school was able to reopen this past fall. But he still has the biggest base of any political figure in the country, the only really popular, democratically elected leader that Haiti has ever had. His party, Fanmi Lavalas, is still the most popular political party, and although it was wracked by political divisions while Aristide was in exile, it has reportedly become more unified since he has returned. Demonstrations on the eight-year anniversary of the 2004 coup -- two weeks ago -- drew thousands into the streets.
"The display of popular support for Aristide is very worrisome to the U.S., so indicting Titid [Aristide] before a potential comeback makes perfect sense," Robert Fatton, a Haiti expert at the University of Virginia, told the Miami Herald.
It makes even more sense if you look at what the U.S. government -- in collaboration with UN officials and other allies -- has been doing to Aristide since they organized the 2004 coup against him. A classified U.S. document, leaked by Wikileaks, reports on a meeting between the then top-ranking State Department official for the hemisphere (Thomas Shannon), and the head of the UN military mission in Haiti (Edumnd Mulet), in 2006. It describes their efforts to keep Aristide in exile in South Africa. Mulet also "urged U.S. legal action against Aristide to prevent the former president from gaining more traction with the Haitian population and returning to Haiti."
This latest episode is part of the "legal action" referred to in the document. So, too, were Washington's attempts to go after Aristide with trumped-up charges of involvement in drug trafficking in 2004. These were also reliant on a convicted felon, a drug dealer facing a long prison sentence. That case went nowhere, for the same reasons that this one will go nowhere: no evidence.
In a last-ditch, illegal effort to prevent Aristide from returning to his home country last year, President Obama called South African President Jacob Zuma to persuade him to keep Aristide there. He also lobbied UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, but to no avail.
The U.S. government has spent millions and possibly tens of millions of dollars trying to railroad Haiti's former president. On behalf of U.S. taxpayers, we could use a Congressional inquiry into this abuse of our tax dollars. It also erodes what we have left of an independent judiciary to have federal courts in Florida used as an instrument of foreign policy skullduggery.
In Haiti, these attempts to deny people democratic rights tend to lead to instability. Imagine trying to tell Brazilians that former president Lula da Silva could not participate in politics in Brazil, and threatening to prosecute him in U.S. courts. Or doing the same to Evo Morales in Bolivia, or Rafael Correa, in Ecuador. It would never be tolerated.
Yet because Haitians are poor and black, Washington thinks it can get away trampling on their democratic rights. But too many Haitians have fought and died for these rights, and they will not give them up so easily.
This article was originally published in The Guardian Unlimited (UK) on March 13, 2012.
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U.S. Government Still Not Ready for Democracy in Haiti
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When the "international community" blames Haiti for its political troubles, the underlying concept is usually that Haitians are not ready for democracy. But it is Washington that is not ready for democracy in Haiti.
Haitians have been ready for democracy for many decades. They were ready when they got massacred at polling stations, trying to vote in 1987 after the fall of the murderous Duvalier dictatorship. They were ready again in 1990, when they voted by a two-thirds majority for the leftist Catholic priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide, only to see him overthrown seven months later in a military coup. The coup was later found to be organized by people paid by the United States Central Intelligence Agency.
Haitians were ready again in 2000 when they elected Aristide a second time with 90 percent of the vote. But Washington would not accept the results of that election either, so it organized a cut-off of international aid to the government and poured millions into the opposition. As Paul Farmer (Bill Clinton's Deputy Special Envoy of the UN to Haiti) testified to the U.S. Congress in 2010:
"Choking off assistance for development and for the provision of basic services also choked off oxygen to the government, which was the intention all along: to dislodge the Aristide administration."
In 2004 Aristide was whisked away in one of those planes that the U.S. government has used for "extraordinary rendition," and taken involuntarily to the Central African Republic.
Eight years later, the U.S. government is still not ready for democracy in Haiti. On March 3, the Miami Herald reported that "Former Haiti President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is once again in the cross hairs of the U.S. government, this time for allegedly pocketing millions of dollars in bribes from Miami businesses... "
Everything about these latest allegations smells foul, like the outhouses that haven't been cleaned for months in some of the camps where hundreds of thousands of Haitians displaced by the earthquake still languish.
First, the source: Patrick Joseph was the head of Haiti's national telecommunications company (Teleco) until he was fired by then-President Aristide for corruption in 2003. Fast forward nine years: last month Joseph negotiates a guilty plea with U.S. federal prosecutors for accepting $2.3 million in bribes from U.S. companies. Facing a long prison sentence, he tells them that about half the money was for President Aristide. How convenient. That should knock a few years off his prison time.
Then there is the timing of the new charges. The first indictment in this case, in 2009, doesn't mention Aristide or anyone who could be him. The same is true for the second indictment, in July 2011, which added Patrick Joseph. But the January 2012 indictment mentions an unidentified "Official B" of the Haitian government; and now we are told that "Official B," according to one of the defense attorneys in the case, is Aristide. How does he know? Obviously the U.S. Justice Department, which has no comment on the matter, told him that, so he could tell the press.
Why now? Aristide has been very quiet and has stayed out of politics since his return to Haiti a year ago. He has focused on the University of the Aristide Foundation; closed since the 2004 coup, the medical school was able to reopen this past fall. But he still has the biggest base of any political figure in the country, the only really popular, democratically elected leader that Haiti has ever had. His party, Fanmi Lavalas, is still the most popular political party, and although it was wracked by political divisions while Aristide was in exile, it has reportedly become more unified since he has returned. Demonstrations on the eight-year anniversary of the 2004 coup -- two weeks ago -- drew thousands into the streets.
"The display of popular support for Aristide is very worrisome to the U.S., so indicting Titid [Aristide] before a potential comeback makes perfect sense," Robert Fatton, a Haiti expert at the University of Virginia, told the Miami Herald.
It makes even more sense if you look at what the U.S. government -- in collaboration with UN officials and other allies -- has been doing to Aristide since they organized the 2004 coup against him. A classified U.S. document, leaked by Wikileaks, reports on a meeting between the then top-ranking State Department official for the hemisphere (Thomas Shannon), and the head of the UN military mission in Haiti (Edumnd Mulet), in 2006. It describes their efforts to keep Aristide in exile in South Africa. Mulet also "urged U.S. legal action against Aristide to prevent the former president from gaining more traction with the Haitian population and returning to Haiti."
This latest episode is part of the "legal action" referred to in the document. So, too, were Washington's attempts to go after Aristide with trumped-up charges of involvement in drug trafficking in 2004. These were also reliant on a convicted felon, a drug dealer facing a long prison sentence. That case went nowhere, for the same reasons that this one will go nowhere: no evidence.
In a last-ditch, illegal effort to prevent Aristide from returning to his home country last year, President Obama called South African President Jacob Zuma to persuade him to keep Aristide there. He also lobbied UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, but to no avail.
The U.S. government has spent millions and possibly tens of millions of dollars trying to railroad Haiti's former president. On behalf of U.S. taxpayers, we could use a Congressional inquiry into this abuse of our tax dollars. It also erodes what we have left of an independent judiciary to have federal courts in Florida used as an instrument of foreign policy skullduggery.
In Haiti, these attempts to deny people democratic rights tend to lead to instability. Imagine trying to tell Brazilians that former president Lula da Silva could not participate in politics in Brazil, and threatening to prosecute him in U.S. courts. Or doing the same to Evo Morales in Bolivia, or Rafael Correa, in Ecuador. It would never be tolerated.
Yet because Haitians are poor and black, Washington thinks it can get away trampling on their democratic rights. But too many Haitians have fought and died for these rights, and they will not give them up so easily.
This article was originally published in The Guardian Unlimited (UK) on March 13, 2012.
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Lan ATIK sa a ke l te pibliye an 2012 ;MARK WEISBROT ki prezidan ""think tank"" sa a sou EKONOMI AMERIK LATIN yo ;misye mande pouki sa AMERIKEN fè e kontinye ap fè de bagay ann AYITI ke l paka fè ankò lan BREZIL,EKWATÈ ou BOLIVI.
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MARK WEISBROT mete ARISTID lan LIYE LULA,CORREIA lan EKWATÈ ak EVO MORALES!
Mesye t ap pale de TANTATIV pou ETAZINI te vle mete yon zafè APÈL TELEFONIK ak DWÒG sou do ARISTID.
Yo depanse de MILYON pou sa ,men sa pa t mennen okenn kote.
Yo lage GOMBO an lan men LAMA BETIZÈ ak KONPAYÈL li yo ,paske yo konnen ann AYITI ou pa bezwen respekte NÒM DEMOKRATIK!
Mwen gen dwa ajoute ke AMERIKEN yo te fè KÈK TAN yo t ap eseye kole yon zafè DWÒG sou do prezidan LEOPOLD FERNANDEZ.
Kelke swa sa ou ka repwoche FERNANDEZ ak PLD ,sitou sou zafè DOMINIKEN-AYISYEN an ;mesyedam sa yo pa lan RANS ak ENPERYALIS!
Gen MOUN ki pa konnen ,men apre li te ELI an 2004 ,FERNANDEZ te reklame retou ARISTID.Misye di pa t gen SOLISYON PWOBLÈM ann AYITI yo ,san ARISTID!
Enperyalis yo te MENASE misye; FERNANDEZ pa t ENSISTE paske pou site FIDEL CASTRO ,se pou w chwazi BATAY ou!
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MARK WEISBROT mete ARISTID lan LIYE LULA,CORREIA lan EKWATÈ ak EVO MORALES!
Mesye t ap pale de TANTATIV pou ETAZINI te vle mete yon zafè APÈL TELEFONIK ak DWÒG sou do ARISTID.
Yo depanse de MILYON pou sa ,men sa pa t mennen okenn kote.
Yo lage GOMBO an lan men LAMA BETIZÈ ak KONPAYÈL li yo ,paske yo konnen ann AYITI ou pa bezwen respekte NÒM DEMOKRATIK!
Mwen gen dwa ajoute ke AMERIKEN yo te fè KÈK TAN yo t ap eseye kole yon zafè DWÒG sou do prezidan LEOPOLD FERNANDEZ.
Kelke swa sa ou ka repwoche FERNANDEZ ak PLD ,sitou sou zafè DOMINIKEN-AYISYEN an ;mesyedam sa yo pa lan RANS ak ENPERYALIS!
Gen MOUN ki pa konnen ,men apre li te ELI an 2004 ,FERNANDEZ te reklame retou ARISTID.Misye di pa t gen SOLISYON PWOBLÈM ann AYITI yo ,san ARISTID!
Enperyalis yo te MENASE misye; FERNANDEZ pa t ENSISTE paske pou site FIDEL CASTRO ,se pou w chwazi BATAY ou!
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). Il(ARISTIDE) a la vie sauve grâce à l'intervention de l'ambassadeur de France, Jean-Raphaël Dufour, et se réfugie au Venezuela
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ARISTIDE a la vie sauve grace à l'intervention de l'EMBASSADEUR de FRANCE?
Sa vle di ki sa?
Se paske li te PAPA bonkè li te fè sa?
Se paske CLINTON te papa bon KÈ ,li te kwape POUTCHIS ;ou byen yo te fòse l fè l.
AYITI pa bezwen la FRANS 2014 lan .
Se te menm la FRANS ki te bonbade vil ALJERI ki rele SETIF lan ann AVRIL 1945 ;ki te touye 45 MIL MOUN 2 BWA BALAN.
Se menm la FRANS ki te MASAKRE PRESKE 1 milyon aljeryen ki te vle KWAPE yo ,lan fen lanne 1950s ,kòmansman lanne 1960s yo.
Se menm la FRANS ki te KONPLIS lan JENOSID RWANDA a ki kòz PAUL KAGAME mete PYE lan dengonn lang FRANSE an kòm LANG EDIKASYON
Premye bagay pou yon GOUVÈNMAN PWOGRESIS fè se mete PYE lan DENGONN ENPERYALIS FRANSE yo ,yon ENPERYALIS PARAZIT!
Sa vle di ki sa?
Se paske li te PAPA bonkè li te fè sa?
Se paske CLINTON te papa bon KÈ ,li te kwape POUTCHIS ;ou byen yo te fòse l fè l.
AYITI pa bezwen la FRANS 2014 lan .
Se te menm la FRANS ki te bonbade vil ALJERI ki rele SETIF lan ann AVRIL 1945 ;ki te touye 45 MIL MOUN 2 BWA BALAN.
Se menm la FRANS ki te MASAKRE PRESKE 1 milyon aljeryen ki te vle KWAPE yo ,lan fen lanne 1950s ,kòmansman lanne 1960s yo.
Se menm la FRANS ki te KONPLIS lan JENOSID RWANDA a ki kòz PAUL KAGAME mete PYE lan dengonn lang FRANSE an kòm LANG EDIKASYON
Premye bagay pou yon GOUVÈNMAN PWOGRESIS fè se mete PYE lan DENGONN ENPERYALIS FRANSE yo ,yon ENPERYALIS PARAZIT!
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BANN MALPOUWONT, MOVE ENGRA LAVALAS SAYO NOU PA GEN NEN NAN MACHWÈ NOU.
SONJE BYEN FRANSE TE FÈ POU LIDÈ KINAN NOU.
PA KITE LAME DAYITI KRAZE KANNKÈS ARISTID
SONJE BYEN FRANSE TE FÈ POU LIDÈ KINAN NOU.
PA KITE LAME DAYITI KRAZE KANNKÈS ARISTID
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Tout sa se RANS TCHANS.
ARISTID ak LAVALAS pa dwe FRANSE yo anyen.
Epizòd DUFOUR lan se yon PASAJ lan VI yon MOUN POLITIK ENPÒTAN tankou ARISTID.
Sa pa gen anyen pou l wè ak la FRANS.
Apre sa la FRANS te fè ann AYITI ant 2001 ak 2004 ;ki MOUN ki ta ka sonje sa DUFOUR te fè?
Yo kalkile ke depi l lan POLITIK yo fè omwens 40 ATANTA sou FIDEL CASTRO.
Pou ARISTID menm ou sonje ATANTA FREYCINAU sou ROUT NASYONAL lan ou byen ATANTA lan SEN JAN BOSKO an.
ARISTID ak LAVALAS pa dwe la FRANS anyen.
Mwen pa p ba yo KONSÈY ,dapre mwen yo konn sa y ap fè.
Youn lan premye AK pou yo poze ,se fè tankou PAUL KAGAME.
Mete PYE lan DENGONN lang FRANSE an kòm LANG EDIKASYON.
VIETNAM te fè sa tou.
PAUL KAGAME di ke se lan LEKÒL TIMOUN RWANDA yo aprann FRANSE e te ize l kòm LANG EDIKASYON e li pa wè BENEFIS lan SA!
Se pou NÈG EKSPLIKE FASINASYON sa a yo gen pou la FRANS lan.Mwen paka konprann li.
Sa a se ALJERI an 1961.ALJERI se te la FRANS toujou.
ADYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARISTID ak LAVALAS pa dwe FRANSE yo anyen.
Epizòd DUFOUR lan se yon PASAJ lan VI yon MOUN POLITIK ENPÒTAN tankou ARISTID.
Sa pa gen anyen pou l wè ak la FRANS.
Apre sa la FRANS te fè ann AYITI ant 2001 ak 2004 ;ki MOUN ki ta ka sonje sa DUFOUR te fè?
Yo kalkile ke depi l lan POLITIK yo fè omwens 40 ATANTA sou FIDEL CASTRO.
Pou ARISTID menm ou sonje ATANTA FREYCINAU sou ROUT NASYONAL lan ou byen ATANTA lan SEN JAN BOSKO an.
ARISTID ak LAVALAS pa dwe la FRANS anyen.
Mwen pa p ba yo KONSÈY ,dapre mwen yo konn sa y ap fè.
Youn lan premye AK pou yo poze ,se fè tankou PAUL KAGAME.
Mete PYE lan DENGONN lang FRANSE an kòm LANG EDIKASYON.
VIETNAM te fè sa tou.
PAUL KAGAME di ke se lan LEKÒL TIMOUN RWANDA yo aprann FRANSE e te ize l kòm LANG EDIKASYON e li pa wè BENEFIS lan SA!
Se pou NÈG EKSPLIKE FASINASYON sa a yo gen pou la FRANS lan.Mwen paka konprann li.
Sa a se ALJERI an 1961.ALJERI se te la FRANS toujou.
ADYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kidonk se pou frekan anbasadè Dufour pran kouraj li ak 2 bwa, pran Aristide nan moman militè yo te vle flanke l yon pè lebren.
Antouka voye monte, mete plis POU TOUT PIBLIK KAP KONPRANN KOMAN SE YON BANN SANZAVE, MOUN SAN ZONÈ LAVALAS SAYO, SAN IMANITE, SAN KONPASYON.
Kontinye refize tout bann kalite sayo nou pa genyen pou kenbe menm diskou kont swadizan lennemi nou ki konprannn li pa dwe lese mouri lidè kinan nou kom yon kabrit sovaj.
Antouka voye monte, mete plis POU TOUT PIBLIK KAP KONPRANN KOMAN SE YON BANN SANZAVE, MOUN SAN ZONÈ LAVALAS SAYO, SAN IMANITE, SAN KONPASYON.
Kontinye refize tout bann kalite sayo nou pa genyen pou kenbe menm diskou kont swadizan lennemi nou ki konprannn li pa dwe lese mouri lidè kinan nou kom yon kabrit sovaj.
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