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Message  Joel Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 16:10

Mwen sezi.GEN BAGAY KI AP RIVE.
New YORK TIMES akize MARTELLY ke li gen ASOSYASYON ak DWOG DILE ak KIDNAPE.

Pa gen BOUCH;le pi gwo JOUNAL SOU PLANET lan ap atake w konsa ;se pa JWET.
Bann MALPWOP lan PRES GNBis lan ki ap pran LAJAN lan men MARTELLY ,se veye ZO NOU:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/americas/haitian-president-tightens-grip-as-scandal-engulfs-circle-of-friends.html

ESKE MATELI ap la koz ke HILLARY CLINTON pa p eli PREZIDAN?

Mezanmi ;li ATIK lan byen .AKIZASYON ke NEW YORK TIMES ap fe yo se AKIZASYON GRAV,AKIZASYON ki pa rete ak AKIZASYON.
NEW YORK TIMES poze kesyon ke eske MATELI abilite pou l dirije peyi an toujou ak AKIZASYON sa yo ,ESKANDAL SA YO.







Haitian President Tightens Grip as Scandal Engulfs Circle of Friends


By FRANCES ROBLESMARCH 16, 2015


 
President Michel Martelly, center, seated beside Prime Minister Evans Paul, left, and the first lady, Sophia Martelly, right. Credit Hector Retamal/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images  




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PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — With a brisk clap of his hands, Michel Martelly summed up the first steps he would take if he ever left the music business and became the president of Haiti.

“First thing, after I establish my power, which would be very strong and necessary, I would close that congress thing,” Mr. Martelly was quoted as saying in 1997, when he was still a hugely popular singer. “Out of my way.”

His words have proven prophetic. A political crisis almost four years into Mr. Martelly’s presidency gave life to the fantasy he once described: He is now running the country without the checks and balances of a parliament.

After Mr. Martelly and his opponents in Parliament could not agree on elections, most legislative terms expired, and the seats remain empty. Only 11 elected officials remain in the entire country, and the president is one of them.

For two months, Mr. Martelly has governed Haiti by executive order, concentrating power in the hands of a man who, his critics say, is a prisoner of his past, surrounded by a network of friends and aides who have been arrested on charges of rape, murder, drug trafficking and kidnapping.

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Workers rebuilding a performance hall in the center of Port-au-Prince. Haiti now has one of the fastest-growing economies in the Caribbean, thanks largely to infrastructure projects, but 24 percent of Haitians still live in extreme poverty. Credit Ian Willms for The New York Times  

As Mr. Martelly strengthens his hold on power, scandals involving those close to him have continued to mount, raising questions about the president’s ability to lead.

One of Mr. Martelly’s senior advisers was jailed for six months during the president’s tenure after being accused of killing a man in a gunfight at the Dominican border. Another friend of the president vanished last year, shortly after being released from jail in a marijuana trafficking case. The prosecutor in that case fled the country fearing retaliation.

Yet another of the president’s associates is in jail, accused of running a kidnapping ring. The authorities are trying to determine whether the man, Woodley Ethéart, who said he worked at the Ministry of Interior, laundered ransom money through a lucrative catering contract at the presidential palace, an investigator familiar with the case said.

One longtime law enforcement official said he stopped going to events at the palace because he kept running into people who had been arrested on charges as serious as murder but were now working at the presidential offices as security guards.

“There they were, in the palace, carrying automatic weapons,” the official said under the condition that his name not be published out of safety concerns.

The Martelly administration’s influence has been criticized most for its effect on the judiciary, where the criminal cases of some people close to the president have stalled or disappeared.

Prosecutors who objected to the administration’s interference were fired or fled, and one judge who complained that the president had meddled in a civil corruption case against the first lady died two days later.

“I would be very concerned of this interconnected web of nefarious characters,” said Robert Maguire, a Haiti scholar at George Washington University. “Martelly has empowered them to do what they do. He has established an environment of corruption, abuse of power and impunity.”

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The president’s office did not respond to several requests for an interview since January. The presidential spokesman, Lucien Jura, did not respond to repeated requests for comment.

Mr. Martelly’s allies defended him, saying that the president could not be blamed for the actions of his friends. Several said that he is loyal to a fault, and that he will stand beside old friends no matter what trouble they find themselves in. The president, aides said, wants the best for Haiti but is easily influenced by relatives known for ties to drug trafficking and friends who abuse their proximity to power.

One of those relatives, the president’s brother-in-law Charles Saint-Rémy, said the president and his family had been victims of a politically motivated campaign to discredit them.

“We have had stability for four years,” said Daniel Edwin Zenny, a senator allied with the president. “We used to have 10,000 to 20,000 people protesting on the streets every day. Now we have 1,500 to 4,000, and while they are protesting, the country is moving forward. This is not a big situation yet.”

Mr. Martelly was elected in 2011 after being placed in a runoff despite coming in third in a disputed election. International organizations, with an assist from Washington, helped Mr. Martelly by documenting his opponents’ widespread voter fraud.

Washington’s role in the election and the American ambassador’s warm relationship with him since has hurt Mr. Martelly’s credibility at home, where the president is considered a member of the conservative elite, disconnected from the poor majority.

Still, he is credited with getting the vast majority of residents who lost their homes to the devastating 2010 earthquake out of tent cities. Solar panels light once-darkened streets, and government ministries and hotels are being built. An anticorruption law was enacted, and the president found creative ways to enroll more children in primary school.

The rubble that marred the streets after the earthquake is gone, and so are most of the tents that 1.5 million Haitians lived in, packing parks, road dividers and other corners of open space.

Haiti now has one of the fastest-growing economies in the Caribbean, thanks largely to infrastructure projects financed by the money Haiti saved by buying oil at preferential terms from Venezuela. But even with that growth, and the billions in international aid, 24 percent of Haitians still live in extreme poverty, according to the World Bank.

“Construction is, like, for certain people — rich people. They built new banks, they built new hotels and government buildings,” said Jean François, 52, a father of six who has lived in a hillside tent here for five years. “The government officials drive by this hill every day, but they don’t see us.”

Now that Mr. Martelly can organize elections without consulting opponents in Parliament, it will soon be voting time again. A movement to oust the president appears to be losing steam. A general strike organized by opposition parties in recent days mostly flopped.

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“A lot of the progress is a little smoke and mirror,” said Nicole Phillips, a lawyer for the Institute for Justice and Democracy in Haiti, arguing that Mr. Martelly’s administration improved infrastructure and built hotels, but also cracked down on rights activists and manipulated the judiciary to benefit the president’s associates. “They have taken one step forward, but mostly taken two steps back.”



Mr. Martelly’s last prime minister, Laurent Lamothe, was seen by many as cracking down on kidnapping and organized crime. But Mr. Lamothe was pushed out in December as the political crisis between the administration and opposition parties reached its peak.

Among those who protested in the streets demanding Mr. Lamothe’s ouster was Mr. Saint-Rémy, the first lady’s brother, who admits that he sold drugs in his youth but now functions as an unofficial adviser to the president. Mr. Saint-Rémy was furious over the arrest of Mr. Ethéart, who operates an expensive French restaurant known to be one of the president’s favorite hangouts — but who has also been identified by the Haitian National Police as being the leader of Galil, a gang of kidnappers.

Mr. Saint-Rémy started calling senior government officials to plead for his friend’s release, three people close to the administration said. Simon Desras, who was president of Haiti’s Senate during the political crisis, said that one of the recipients told him he considered the call more a threat than request.

“In Martelly’s environment, you don’t find all saints,” Mr. Desras said. “You find demons.”

Mr. Saint-Rémy admitted “having discussions” with senior officials about the case, because he remains firmly convinced that his friend is innocent and was set up by the politically ambitious former prime minister, Mr. Lamothe, in an effort to discredit the president.

“Laurent has been playing heavy politics, because he has always wanted to be the only player standing,” Mr. Saint-Rémy said.

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Demonstrators marched through Port-au-Prince in February to demand lower fuel prices. “We used to have 10,000 to 20,000 people protesting on the streets every day," said Daniel Edwin Zenny, a senator allied with the president. "Now we have 1,500 to 4,000, and while they are protesting, the country is moving forward." Credit Hector Retamal/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images  

Mr. Lamothe did not respond to repeated requests for an interview.

Mr. Ethéart was arrested last year in connection with the kidnapping of a businessman by gunmen in police uniforms who demanded $1.2 million.

Telephone records showed that Mr. Ethéart was in contact with the kidnappers and, like the hostage-takers, had turned off his cellphone at the precise time of the abduction, according to a police investigative report. A Ministry of Interior license plate found on a vehicle at Mr. Ethéart’s house had been reported in previous kidnappings, an investigator said.

The police tied the case to 15 other kidnappings involving 17 hostages and one murder, the police said.

But irregularities in the investigation quickly emerged. According to government officials, subpoenas to interview several witnesses stalled for months. When the investigating judge ordered the arrest of Mr. Ethéart’s wife and closed the expensive French restaurant the couple operated, another judge had her released and lifted the judicial seal on the restaurant’s doors.

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Mr. Ethéart has denied wrongdoing, saying his arrest was the result of his “presidential acquaintances.”

“I’m like a big Kleenex,” he said in a radio interview last year. “They used me and then threw me away.”

Two law enforcement officials in Haiti said that Mr. Ethéart had been arrested in the late 1990s with a naked man in his trunk, who led officers to a nearby murder scene. Mr. Ethéart denied the assertions in the radio interview, but acknowledged that at another time he was found with $178,000 in cash — proceeds, he said, from a music festival in Miami.

His lawyer, Claudy Gassant, said that the prosecution’s evidence was flimsy. “No one in the palace intervened or asked the judiciary to release him. No one,” Mr. Gassant said. “To me, his relationship with the president does not matter.”

Evans Paul, who was named prime minister after Mr. Lamothe’s ouster, said the fact that Mr. Ethéart is in jail awaiting trial proved that the country had an independent judiciary.

“We cannot stop someone from choosing his friends, and cannot give hold him responsible for his friend’s actions,” Mr. Paul said of the president. “Only if you can show there is complicity.”

The National Human Rights Defense Network, a leading human rights organization in Haiti, has argued that the president and his cabinet were complicit in protecting drug traffickers in other cases.

The president was widely criticized for the handling of a 2013 drug-trafficking case involving Evinx Daniel, a prominent hotelier and Martelly campaign supporter who owns Dan’s Creek, a beachfront hotel the president is known to frequent.

Mr. Daniel told the authorities that he had found 23 packages of marijuana floating at sea and decided to bring them home. He called the president’s brother-in-law, Mr. Saint-Rémy, who called the United States Drug Enforcement Administration to pick up the load, the brother-in-law said.

A prosecutor, Jean Marie Salomon, doubted the story, suspecting that it was a ruse to cover up a drug deal that local residents had stumbled upon, and arrested Mr. Daniel on drug-trafficking charges. But the prosecutor was nervous, because he knew the hotelier had been active in the president’s campaign.

The suspect was brought into custody and allowed to make a phone call. He called the minister of justice, the prosecutor’s boss, and handed over the telephone.

“He told me, ‘Commissioner, someone wants to talk to you,’” Mr. Salomon recalled in an interview. “He said, ‘The minister is on the phone.’”

Mr. Daniel was released the next day, and Mr. Salomon was suspended for abuse of power and later resigned. The prosecutor’s police bodyguard never showed up for work again, Mr. Salomon said. ​Mr. Salomon said he saw masked gunmen outside the courthouse just as investigators were calling him to discuss Mr. Daniel’s case.

Shortly after, Mr. Salomon said President Martelly went to Port Salut, about 140 miles west of the capital, and stayed at his friend’s hotel.

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“It was not only a provocation from the president, but also a coded message,” Mr. Salomon said. “That day, I understood there was a bounty on me, and my days were numbered.”

Mr. Salomon called the United Nations for help and fled the country, but has since returned.

The hotelier disappeared three months after his release from jail and is widely presumed to be dead.

“Since Martelly arrived in office, state institutions have become weaker than before,” said Pierre Esperance, director of the National Human Rights Defense Network. “We have no rule of law in Haiti.”

Human rights lawyers said the absence of a parliament had left the role of checks and balances to them. A Senate report accused the president of lying about whether he had interfered in a civil corruption case filed against the first lady, but impeachment efforts stalled because of the lack of a quorum in the legislature.
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One human rights lawyer, Samuel Madistin, filed a complaint asking for an investigation into the sudden death of Judge Jean Serge Joseph in 2013, two days after telling Mr. Madistin that the president had attended an illegal meeting to pressure him to dismiss the case against the first lady.

A coroner’s report said that a medical examiner who conducted an autopsy in Quebec lacked the medical files in Haiti needed to be certain how Mr. Joseph had died, but that the death was the result of a cerebral hemorrhage.

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Message  Marc-Henry Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 18:06

Jodia genyen yon moun mwen rankontre , li dim ke Mateli se premye prezidan ki ap soti nan palais national fouke par la police . Genleu se vre .

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Message  Joel Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 19:45

Mwen sezi MAK;

Tout akizasyon OPOZISYON an te konn fe kont MATELI yo ;NEW YORK TIMES relate tout ;EVINX DANIEL ,SONSON LA FAMILIA (WOODLEY ETHEART),REZO KIDNAPING yo.

NEW YORK TIMES ajoute DEKLARSYON ke KOMISE ta fet;tankou gen NEG yo ta arête lan DWOG e li rive lan PALE NASYONAL e li we NEG sa yo ak ZAM ;MATELI ta fe lage yo.

NEW YORK TIMES menm akize MATELI ke l gen ASOSYASYON ak REZO ASASEN.
Mwen pa janm we NEW YORK TIMES fe sot de AKIZASYON sa yo.

GNBis yo te konn akize ARISTID pandan DETABILIZASYON an ;se note NEW YORK TIMES te konn note yo.

NEW YORK TIMES di ke yon MOUN ki gen tout AKIZASYON sa yo sou do l ;eske l ka dirije?
MWEN SEZI MAK!
ESKE MATELI AP KAPAB FE ELEKSYON VRE?
CLINTON yo pral kouri pou MATELI tankou yon RAT ki ap kouri pou CHAT.
WALL STREET JOURNAL te fe akizasyon ,asosyasyon CLINTON yo ak MATELI.
Se pa t enpotan ;diferans lan se ke NEW YORK TIMES se BIB PATI DEMOKRAT lan!

Mwen gen plis ke 40 AN m ap li NEW YORK TIMES ;senseman ,mwen poko janm we yo fe de ATAK sa yo.

Yo di kareman ke MATELI se yon BANDI LEGAL;ILEGAL!

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Message  Antitétanix Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 20:14

Préval a vendu le pays.

Moi aussi à un moment donné, j'ai senti que la terre glissait sous les pieds de Martelly. Mais il ne faut pas négliger l'omniprésente grosse femme du nom de Sonia.

Je ne me rappelle pas avoir entendu les commentateurs protester contre l'irruption de l'ambassadrice américaine dans le Parlement haïtien. A bien y penser, les députés étaient plutôt honorés de la présence de son Insolence Pamela White parmi eux. Question d'aller calmer ce conseil de singes qui oublient qui mènent dans ce pays-là.

J'ai l'impression que les Dominicains voudraient en finir depuis longtemps avec Martelly. Et si c'étaient nous les mauvais voisins dans tous ces conflits? Y avez-vous pensé une minute?
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Message  Joel Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 21:16

SANTRIS DOMINIKEN yo pa vle MESYE sa yo vre.
Se EKSTREM DWAT DOMINIKEN yo ki vle yo.

An 2004,le FERNANDEZ te fet eli ;te gen yon REYINYON lan SANTO DOMINGO ;Fernandez TE PREZAN ;misye te di ke pa gen SOLISYON pwoblem AYITI yo san ARISTID ;li te mande pou ARISTID tounen.

Tout NEG yo te leve lan dengonn LI ;OEA,ONI,PEYI YO RELE PEYI ZANMI yo.
Yo te menm menase misye ;misye pa t ensiste.

ATIK NEW YORK TIMES lan kontinye etone m.
Neg ki pa viv OZETAZINI pa konn pouvwa NEW YORK TIMES.Si w se yon DEMOKRAT ou pa ka eli san APWI NEW YORK TIMES.
Sel eksplikasyon ke m ka bay ;gen yon MOUVMAN lan SANT GOCH PATI DEMOKRAT ki gade HILLARY CLINTON kom two a dwat.
Eske se komansman izaj SWIT MIKI pou yo bloke HILLARY pou l pa pran nominasyon an?

Si w we NEW YORK TIMES ENSISTE ,se ap fen MATELI ak KONPAYEL li yo;pa p gen SENATE ,prezidan DEMOKRAT ki ap ka soutni misye ,ale we yon KANDIDA pou NOMINASYON.

M ap gade seryezman ;si misye ap ka menm eseye FE ELEKSYON ke l vle fe an.

NEW YORK TIMES pa manke pa note ke se ANBASAD AMERIKEN an ki te fe MATELI vin prezidan.Yo pa menm ba li LEGALITE:

Mr. Martelly was elected in 2011 after being placed in a runoff despite coming in third in a disputed election. International organizations, with an assist from Washington, helped Mr. Martelly by documenting his opponents’ widespread voter fraud.

Washington’s role in the election and the American ambassador’s warm relationship with him since has hurt Mr. Martelly’s credibility at home, where the president is considered a member of the conservative elite, disconnected from the poor majority.


ATIK lan di:
"MATELI te eli an 2011 apre misye te lan 2yem TOU ,malgre ke l te fini twazyem lan yon ELEKSYON KONTESTE.
OGANIZASYON ENTENASYONAL ak ASISTANS WASHINGTON ede MARTELLY ;yo di ke MOUN ki te opoze l yo te fwode.

WOL WASHINGTON lan ELEKSYON (NYT KONTINYE) ak RELASYON KOKOT ak FIGARO ke l genyen ak ANBASADE AMERIKEN an retire lan KREDIBILTE misye ak POPILASYON an .
POPILASYON an (NYT kontinye) konsidere MATELI tankou yon MANM elit konsevate an ;ki pa gen okenn koneksyon ak MAJORITE POV lan"

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Message  Le gros roseau Lun 16 Mar 2015 - 22:27

Nanpwen anyen martelly fè ki etone m.Martelly pa janm kache ki sa ki bi l nan la vi :"I want to be filthy rich".Lè l te di Haiti is open for business la nou pat konprann sa l te vle di. Se koulyè ya meriken konnen ki moun ki Martelly ya? sa k fè yo ap l kidnape tankou yo te kidnape Aristide la. li grese pat gwo zotobre se sak fel di :le mandat sera respecté. Fo nou konprann byen pou ki sa Bill Clinotn di martelly se sel presidan ayisyen ki konn sa l vle. tout moun ki sanble toujou nan menm klib.

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Message  Antitétanix Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 0:51

Et Obama? Il a montré peu d'égard envers Haiti. Qui avait-il délégué après le tremblement de terre? Bill Clinton et George Bush. Au moins, s'il voulait poser le geste symbolique d'une visite d'une journée en Haiti avant la fin de son mandat... après le départ de Martelly. C'est un voeu pieux car il est probable qu'Obama débarque un jour à Cuba avant qu'il ne considère en Haiti si jamais il connaît notre place dans l'Histoire.
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Message  Sasaye Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 1:31

Kifè, Ilari rankontre ak Celesten, li lage yon katafal kob lan kòf lestomak
misye pou l kite Mateli pran plas li lan 2èm tou an!
Mwenmenm tou, mwen pa t ka konprann poukisa li al tou dousman
san bri san kont
Kounyea mwen konprann.
Koumanman! nèg yo gen yon kwi lan pòch yo!
Bouzen politik pa tap vinn regle anyen pou Ayiti.

Alò, eske Obama fè Pamela White lage yon katafal kob lan kòf lestomak Lamòt,
Pou l al san bri san kont kite plas li bay restavèk KPlim?
Mwen sispèk Pamela ajoute yon ti dous avèk kòb la tou.

Si se pa sa mwen poko ka konprann kouman Lamòt etenn dife l vit konsa.
Oubyen eske li chita sou yon blòk glas ap tann pou l vin reparèt?
Mwen konnen, li pral reparèt. Sa fè 3 ki an tèt.


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Message  Sasaye Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 1:37

Moro,

Lè Obama monte, mwen te sèl nèg ki te di ke mwen pa eksite paske
yon neg nwa rive Prezidan lan peyi Meriken.

Sa pa fè oken diferans paske nwa ou blan, moun ki lan pòs saa deja
gen liy yo trase pou yo swadizan defann sekirite de leta.
Zafè kwè li ta p montre solidarite ak ayisyen an se te yon move rèv.
Kidonk, Obama pa bezwen vin sou tè Desalin nan.
Je renons!
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Message  Joel Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 6:30

MOREAU;

Mwen garanti w ke OBAMA konn vale AYITI pou tout NWA lan AMERIK.
Ou paka yon NEG NWA ;ki pase HARVARD ,pou w pa konn vale AYITI.

OBAMA se bon ZANMI HENRY LOUIS GATES.
Mwen t ap gade pa two lontan sou PBS ;pwofese HENRY LOUIS GATES ki t ap pale de ENPOTANS AYITI genyen ou dwe genyen pou tout AMERIKEN dorijin AFRIKEN.

Se te 6 e d tan ISTWA MOUN NWA OZETAZINI.GATES di ke w paka pale de ISTWA AFRIKEN AMERIKEN san w pa pale de ISTWA DAYITI.
Mwen te we EPIZOD lan sou YOU TUBE ;men pou yon rezon ou pou yon lot ,mwen pa ka mete l sou SIT lan.

Se "AFRICAN AMERICANS ,MANY RIVERS TO CROSS"
Kanta ke yon PREZIDAN paka chanje LIY POLITIK AMERIKEN an.Pandan GE FRET lan wi ;pa kounye an.Gen anpil ENTERE;men POLITIK AYITI ann AYITI aktyelman se ZEV madan CLINTON ;SEKRETE DETA gen anpil,anpil pou l we ak POLITIK ETRANJE.
Se madan CLINTON ki te ACHITEK KOUDETA lan ONDIRAS lan ,ak EPIZOD MATELI an.
Se diferans madan CLINTON ak JOHN KERRY ki konn AYITI tre byen.Se JOHN KERRY sel SENATE AMERIKEN ki te kanpe an 2004 kont koudeta a ;nou ka we se sou administrsyon li an tou n ap obseve yon bagay ke nou pa t kwe ki POSIB"RAPWOCHMAN ANT ETAZINI ak KIBA"

New York Times ak ATIK li an se k ap anonsyate POLITIK KERRY ki tankou m di l,konn AYITI byen ;li konn AKTE yo BYEN;kom ansyen CHEMAN KOMISYON ZAFE ETRANJE lan SENA a e ansyen SENATE MASACHOUSTETS.

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Message  Joel Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 6:46

ATIK kont MATELI an ,paret AYE ;men gen tan gen 55 KOMANTE.Genyen ki soti POTOPRENS,genyen ki soti OKAP .Sa ki soti OKAP lan sanble se NEG REZO SITADEL lan ;se estil misye.
Mesye ki vle fe KOMANTE PRO MATELI yo telman vle bay manti ;yo tankou GUYLER DELVA ak yon ODYANS ENTENASYONAL.
Gen yon NEG POTOPRENS ;apre kom dabitid li atake ARISTID ,misye ke se paske ke te gen 1 MILYON MOUN lan la RI POTOPRENS ki fe MATELI vin prezidan.
An jeneral KOMANTATE yo fann lan dengonn gouvenman AMERIKEN an ak OLIGACHI an.
Yo rann yo responsab FYASKO MATELI an.
Men yon komante TIPIK:


Paul Allen
Oakland, CA 9 hours ago
Haiti is a democracy like Iran is a democracy. The government excludes all the candidates it doesn't like (look it up before you react, now), then has an election. The U.S. involvement in 2 recent coups d'etat (of Aristide) and the impoverishment of Haiti was well summarized by Jon @ DS.


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Paul Allen
Oakland, CA 7 hours ago
Preval was elected a second time, but not as a member of the Fanmi Lavalas Party (Aristide's party), which was excluded from the election. Aristide was elected twice and overthrown twice by people receiving support from the U.S. The U.S. also orchestrated Aristide's return to finish his first term. Aristide was forcibly exiled during the 2006 election which Preval won. Lavalas was again excluded from the 2011 election which Martelly won.


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Jon
New York 12 hours ago
I suggest you research the following topics:

-- French naval embargo of Haiti--backed by the U.S.--after the Haitian revolution abolished slavery; also, French agreement to end this embargo which was strangling the island nation, in return for a huge sum of money, the historical source of the Haitian national debt;
-- U.S. invasion of Haiti (1915) which began by seizing the assets of Haiti's national bank and physically transferring them to a New York bank;
-- U.S. occupation of Haiti (1915-1937) during which the US created, trained and developed a lasting relationship with the brutal Haitian national army;
-- AID plan for Haiti (1980s) and particularly the forced destruction of the entire Haitian pig population which was the foundation of the Haitian peasant economy;
-- U.S. policy of flooding Haiti with cheap rice in the 90s, which bankrupted the native rice growing sector which was previously the most thriving part of agriculture;
-- Close U.S. relationship and aid to the Duvalier dictatorship (1958-1985), notorious for its savagery;
-- One direct invasion, and one U.S. backed "insurgency" to overthrow the popular Aristide.

After you know something, say something!

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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 8:19

menm si Obama pat ale an ayiti men Michelle te ale apre tranbleman de tè ya. Se pa tout kote Presidan Ameriken yan ka ale pafwa pou rezon sekirite. Si yon moun konsidere sa injenyè Prepetit di yo se gwo chans ou pran lè wal an ayiti.paske yon lot tranbleman de tè ka pase nenpot ki lè an ayiti.

Wi gen danje tout kote men gen kote ki pi danjere ke yon lot.Fok nou pa bliye Pamela White sot di ayisyen rete lakay yo pa vinn an ayiti paske menm yon bon servis anbilans pa genyen.menm mwen menm jodya ,mwen pa pral ayiti. Wi se vre mwen te viv la pandan 29 lane paske mwen pat gen chwa.mwen pa nan chire pit ak pèsonn pou oken bouro men Jacques chirac te rive Santo Domingo li pat ale an ayiti ;lè to te mande l pou ki sa li pa rive an ayiti li te di relatyon la frans ak ayiti se bagay lontan. ki donk li pat ba ayiti oken enpotans.

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Message  Antitétanix Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 8:28

J'ai utilisé une tournure de phrase, de l'ironie même qui suppose qu'Obama ne connaît pas Haiti pour souligner son indifférence depuis le début. D'ailleurs, Kerry n'était pas encore secrétaire d'Etat.

J'avais réagi immédiatement aux incidents en RD pour mettre en garde la population contre des représailles aux actes des Dominicains. Si je ne le cautionne pas je ne condamne pas non plus l'incident du consulat. Là encore, on peut douter de qui était derrière tout ça. Je peux prétendre aussi que les Haïtiens ne sont pas au courant des maux que les Étas-Unis continuent à nous infliger. On ne les voit pas protester près de l'ambassade américaine. De toute façon, on les aurait vite dispersés pour faire place à la ligne quotidienne de demandeurs de visa, soit le grand argument de Roseau le premier des Haïtiano-Américains.

Même le black causus ne se préoccupe pas des violations des droits humains en Haiti par et sous le régime Martelly. Est-ce parce que les membres du BC sont déçus de l'implication des Clinton dans l'anomalie martélienne?

Il est clair que la dette de l'ìndépendance nous a fait mal mais tant bien que mal nous avons accompli de grandes choses et mené le pays au 20ème siècle. Il a fallu que les Américains se dress[ass]ent en croix pour dire qu'il n'est pas question que ce pays de nègres en Amérique devienne une réussite dès que cette dette fut acquittée.

Depuis tout ce temps qu'on publie, des rapports critiquant la politique américaine en Haïti, qu'on dénonce les méfaits des Américains en Haiti, ils continuent à tirer les ficelles sans être dérangés. Depuis plus d'un demi-siècle que des politiciens, des écrivains, des patriotes haïtiens ont dénoncé en détail le grand abus dont Haiti est victime aux mains de Américains, je suis toujours surpris que cela fasse écho chez mes compatriotes plus souvent quand c'est des Américains qui en parlent.
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Message  Joel Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 8:45

Yon lot komante.Sa vle di ke AMERIKEN ki ENFOME yo ;konnen ekzakteman sa ki ap pase ann AYITI.Se AYISYEN ann AYITI yo akoz de PRES GNBis LAN ki pa okouran de sa ki ap pase:


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Here we find the effects of another American supported military intervention, here the removal from the Presidency of Aristide, twice, and the barring of the party of Aristide, Lavelas, from campaigning in recent years. Here we find a tragically crippled economy from the time of Napoleon, never allowed to recover.


Tradiksyon KOMANTE NANCY an

Nou we anko EFE yon lot ENTEVANSYON MILITE AMERIKEN pou yo KAPOTE ARISTID pandan 2 FWA ;san nou pa bliye BANISMAN pou PATI ARISTID lan LAVALAS.
Anpeche PATI an fe KANPAY lan denye lanne yo.
Nou jwenn tou yon EKONOMI ki estwopye depi tan NAPOLEYON e yo pa janm kite rekouvri

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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 15:05

Mwen pa nan chwasi bouro ak oken moun.mwen kritike tout bouro. se pa politik etranje ameriken mwen apwouve  e se mechanste lè yon moun di mwen pa janm krtike politik etranjè ameriken tout kote e tou tan yo interveni nan zafè lot peyi.Mwen se yon moun ki rekonet pa gen yon system ekonomik.politik  iniversel ki dwe aplike tout kote tou tan.

Si m di malgre tout defo system kapitalism lan se li ki pwodwi plis byen ak servis pou limanite ,ki se yon verite, sa pa vle di ke mwen vle se li ke tout peyi adopte. tou tan.Mwen pa janm kache admiration pou Obama e pep ameriken yan. mwen rekonet ke pouvwa Obama limite. e pep ameriken pa yon pep omojenn gen pwogresis ameriken tou. ki pa toujou apwouve sa serten gouvenman fè.

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Message  Joel Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 15:52

Gen de NEG ki toujou PRE pou yo atake AMERIKEN tou;mwen we NEG sa yo pre POU METE ZAPATONN pou yo defann FRANSE yo.

Kite m di nou mesye si nou pa t konnen FRANSE yo te pi CHO devan BANN lan ,lan DENYE KOUDETA kont ARISTID lan a 2004 .
Depi an 2002 ,sa dokimante ke FRANSE t ap fe REPETISYON pou yo entevni ann AYITI.
Gen anpil EVENMAN lan LATIBONIT lan ,se FRANSE yo ki te deye yo.
Nou menm ki ap viv OZETAZINI ,nou kapab konbat ENJERANS AMERIKEN yo lan zafe PEYI NOU e se pa Jodi an ke nou gen ZANMI AMERIKEN ki ap ede nou fe sa.
Ki sa FRANSE yo ap fe lan ZAFE PEYI NOU?
E pinga NEG vin joure kom yo abitye fe l.
Se pou FRANSE yo kanpe LWEN ;yo te pi AKTIF lan denye KOUDETA a ke AMERIKEN yo .
Gen ANPIL PREV

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Message  Marc-Henry Mar 17 Mar 2015 - 20:11

Radio Vrai Tabernacle Jounal New York Times detripe Prezidan Martelly epi met Palè Nasyonal toutouni k'on boutey. Anpil obsèvatè kwè, atik New York times nan se yon BOMB atomik ki tonbe sou tet Prezidan Martelly. Atik byen long sa a fè konnen chef leta a antoure tèt li ak dilè drog, kriminel, kadejakè etc... Se yon kolonn moun anndan kou deyò Palè a ki bay repòtè jounal la tout kalte koze pou salanbe chef leta a. Jounal la di, sete rèv Martelly dirije peyi a kou yon Lwijanboje. Depi 1997, Sweet Micky di kou m rive prezidan, bagay yo rele palman pap egziste, map f..t choute yo... "First thing, after I establish my power, which would be very strong and necessary, I would close that congress thing, Out of my way.” Misye reyalize pwofesi l la paske denpi 2 mwa, li se sèl kòk chante nan peyi Dayiti. Sepandan, se yon veritab gagòt ak lòbey Martelly ap fè nan pouvwa a, li gaspiye lajan petro caribe a san gade dèyè jouk patizan l yo deklare, 4 ane sa a se (BOOM TIMES, FOR SOME) Aloske opozisyon an pa sispann rale zòrey Prezidan an ki pa tande ni HI ni HAN. Jounal la di, yon patizan mouche Martelly touye frèt yon jèn gason, jodi a li se konseye l, men m kote a, yon bon zanmi l ki ta nan poud blanch disparèt k'on kout zèklè... (One of Mr. Martelly’s senior advisers being accused of killing a man in a gunfight at the Dominican border. Another friend of the president vanished last year, shortly after being released from jail in a marijuana trafficking case.) Men m kan w se komisè Lajistis, si w pèmèt ou arete yon patizan Martelly, kafe w ap koul'ak ma men m jan ak Mèt Salomon, ki kraze rak apre Martelly kite Pòtopens al dòmi lakay Evinx Daniel, pou li sete yon mesaj kòde ki montre l klè ke Chef leta a means biznis. yon gwo otorite Lajistis di li pa met pye l nan Palè a paske chak wa li fè arete yon moun pou dwòg ou krim, 2 jou aprè moun sa a ap taye banda nan Palè a ak gwo zam fann fwa..."One longtime law enforcement official said he stopped going to events at the palace because he kept running into people who had been arrested on charges as serious as murder but were now working at the presidential offices as security guards. There they were, in the palace, carrying automatic weapons"... Jounal la pibliye yon kolonn deklarasyon Kiko St-Rémy sou anprizònman zanmi n Woodley Etheart, pouki rezon yo choute Laurent Lamothe, zafè swadizan eleksyon pou lane 2015, min lò nan peyi a elt, Nap retounen sou 2è pati atik sa ki domine aktyalite a. Men, jounal la revele, yo pran tan avan piblikasyon atik la paske yo tap tann Prezidan an, Laurent Lamothe pou reaji. Yo tann jouk yo tounen pwa tann, nada; menm Lucien Jura mawon pou yo. Tout atik la disponib sou web site New York Times nan lang angle, otorite ayisyèn yo pa reaji, black out total kapital nan mitan moun tèt san cheve yo ki ap prepare kandidati Sophia Martelly pou ranplase mari l 7 fevrye 2016. Audio now : (832) 551-5088. a écrit:

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