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Imaginons déjà la formation du cabinet Biden -Harris


Mac Connell peut-il empêcher la formation du gouvernement en bloquant la nomination de certains secrétaires ou autres fonctionnaires ? Si oui , que pourrait faire Biden pour neutraliser Mac Connell ?

Biden pourrait toujours travailler avec quelques senateurs R comme Suzanne Collins , Rommey , l'autre dame de l'Alaska pour faire passer ses lois .

Biden aurait besoin seulement 2 sénateurs alliés pour éviter le blocage de Mitch Mac Connell .

Joel pourriez-vous m'enseigner un peu sur le senat us . Il parait qu'il aura probablement un second tour pour deux sénateurs en janvier 21 . Biden pourrait-il faire des gains , soit de remporter ces deux sieges ?


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Il y a 50 LOIS ELECTORALES pour les 50 ETATS,beaucoup sont similaires ,quelques uns sont differents.

L'etat de GEORGIA requiert un second tour pour elire un SENATEUR qui n'a pas recu la majorite absolue au premier tour.
Deux DEMOCRATES pourraient aller au second tour en GEORGIA.
On continue de compter.

Quant a COLLINS et ROMNEY,je doute qu'ils voteront avec BIDEN ,si BIDEN EST ELU president.

Ces deux personnages n'aimaient pas TRUMP,a un certain degre.

Quand a SUSAN COLLINS ,c'etait une surprise qu'elle avait ete reelu si facilement;presque tous les SENATEURS du NORD EST sont des Democrates.
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MARC;
Comme je le disais,MC CONNELL CONTINUERA de controller le SENAT et rendra la vie impossible aux DEMOCRATES.

Il y a un deuxieme tour en GEORGIA cet ETAT CONSERVATEUR et les REPUBLICAINS sont favoris pour capturer ces deux sieges.
Par miracle,les DEMOCRATES pourraient capturer les deux sieges ,ce qui donnerait un SENAT 50-50 et qui donnerait controle aux DEMOCRATES car le VICE-PRESIDENT (presumee KAMALA HARRIS en cas de EX AEQUO a un vote pour departager-knock on wood)

Voici ce que predit PAUL KRUGMAN ,LE PRIX NOBEL EN ECONOMIE,qui fait fremir.
Quand a la nomination des MINISTRES,MC CONNELL peut les bloquer mais c'est dans des cas majeurs:

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Is America Becoming a Failed State?
Mitch McConnell may make the nation ungovernable.

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As I write this, it seems extremely likely that Joe Biden has won the presidency. And he clearly received millions more votes than his opponent. He can and should claim that he has been given a strong mandate to govern the nation.

But there are real questions about whether he will, in fact, be able to govern. At the moment, it seems likely that the Senate — which is wildly unrepresentative of the American people — will remain in the hands of an extremist party that will sabotage Biden in every way it can.

Before I get into the problems this confrontation is likely to cause, let’s talk about just how unrepresentative the Senate is.

Every state, of course, has two senators — which means that Wyoming’s 579,000 residents have as much weight as California’s 39 million. The overweighted states tend to be much less urbanized than the nation as a whole. And given the growing political divide between metropolitan and rural areas, this gives the Senate a strong rightward tilt.

An analysis by the website FiveThirtyEight.com found that the Senate in effect represents an electorate almost seven percentage points more Republican than the average voter. Cases like Susan Collins, who held on in a Democratic state, are exceptions; the underlying right-wing skew of the Senate is the main reason the G.O.P. will probably retain control despite a substantial Democratic victory in the presidential popular vote.

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But, you may ask, why is divided control of government such a problem? After all, Republicans controlled one or both chambers of Congress for three-quarters of Barack Obama’s presidency, and we survived, didn’t we?

Yes, but.

In fact, G.O.P. obstruction did a lot of damage even during the Obama years. Republicans used hardball tactics, including threats to cause a default on the national debt, to force a premature withdrawal of fiscal support that slowed the pace of economic recovery. I’ve estimated that without this de facto sabotage, the unemployment rate in 2014 might have been about two percentage points lower than it actually was.

And the need for more spending is even more acute now than it was in 2011, when Republicans took control of the House.

Most immediately, the coronavirus is running wild, with new cases exceeding 100,000 a day and rising rapidly. This is going to hit the economy hard, even if state and local governments don’t impose new lockdowns.

We desperately need a new round of federal spending on health care, aid to the unemployed and businesses, and support for strapped state and local governments. Reasonable estimates suggest that we should spend $200 billion or more each month until a vaccine brings the pandemic to an end. I’d be shocked if a Senate still controlled by Mitch McConnell would agree to anything like this.

Even after the pandemic is over, we’re likely to face both persistent economic weakness and a desperate need for more public investment. But McConnell effectively blocked infrastructure spending even with Donald Trump in the White House. Why would he become more amenable with Biden in office?

Now, spending isn’t the only form of policy. Normally, there are many things a president can achieve for good (Obama) or evil (Trump) through executive action. In fact, during the summer a Democratic task force identified hundreds of things a President Biden could do without having to go through Congress.

But here’s where I worry about the role of a heavily partisan Supreme Court — a court shaped by McConnell’s norm-breaking behavior, including the rushed confirmation of Amy Coney Barrett just days before the election.

Six of nine justices were chosen by a party that has won the popular vote only once in the past eight elections. And I think there’s a substantial chance that this court may behave like the Supreme Court in the 1930s, which kept blocking New Deal programs until F.D.R. threatened to add seats — something Biden wouldn’t be able to do with a Republican-controlled Senate.

So we are in big trouble. Trump’s defeat would mean that we have, for the moment, avoided a plunge into authoritarianism — and yes, the stakes are that high, not just because of who Trump is, but also because the modern G.O.P. is so extremist and anti-democratic. But our skewed electoral system means that Trump’s party is still in a position to hobble, perhaps cripple, the next president’s ability to deal with the huge epidemiological, economic and environmental problems we face.

Put it this way: If we were looking at a foreign country with America’s level of political dysfunction, we would probably consider it on the edge of becoming a failed state — that is, a state whose government is no longer able to exert effective control.

Runoff elections in Georgia may yet give Democrats Senate control; barring that, Biden might be able to find a few reasonable Republicans willing to pull us back from that brink. But despite his apparent victory, the Republic remains in great danger.

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Paul Krugman has been an Opinion columnist since 2000 and is also a Distinguished Professor at the City University of New York Graduate Center. He won the 2008 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his work on international trade and economic geography. @PaulKrugman

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Oui Joel

Il faut croire que l’électorat   Georgia va  devoir   donner la majorité du Senat au président . De toute façon , les démocrates  vont devoir   investir
toute leur énergie , argent , ressources dans ce second tour . Les démocrates doivent prendre ces deux sièges pour le bon fonctionnement du pays .

Tres belle analyse  de l'auteur . Il faut repenser ce pays après ce que nous venons d'assister  avec Trump .

PAr ailleurs Joel , j,ai lu que Biden a une bonne relation avec Mc connell. On verra

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Bonne relation avec MC CONNELL ne veut rien dire.
MC CONNELL est impitoyable.Il est le digne ou indigne heritier des SENATEURS du SUD d'avant 1860 qui ont provoque la GUERRE CIVILE.

Je vous assure que le deuxieme tour du SENAT en GEORGIA sera parmi les plus "chers" des campagnes senatoriales de l'HISTOIRE des ETATS UNIS;beaucoup plus que 100 MILLIONS de DOLLARS de part et d'autre.

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Joel,

Il devrait y avoir un moyen de réduire les excès de MC Connell , surtout lorsqu'on sait que Joe Biden a une forte majorité de l’électorat dont un mandat clair pour gouverner . Nancy Pelosi vient de confirmer tout cela . A suivre

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Marc,je ne sais pas ,avec MC CONNELL.

BIDEN voudrait amener les ETATS UNIS au 21eme siecle pour faire la competition avec leur "chief competitor" ,la CHINE.

J'ai lu certains des PAPIERS;MC CONNELL est sur le CHEMIN.

NANCY PELOSI est "hard nose" ;j'espere qu'elle montrera le chemin pour neutraliser MC CONNELL.

Pour le vote populaire ,BIDEN a deja plus que 4 MILLIONS de votes de plus que TRUMP.
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On attend , on attend comme on dit en anglais : wait and see

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Je n'ai aucune confiance en MC CONNELL "to do the right thing".

En ce qui concerne HAITI ,MARCO RUBIO continuera d'avoir une certaine influence dans un SENAT REPUBLICAIN.

Oui:

"Let's wait and see"
Je suis curieux de voir qui BIDEN nommera comme SECRETAIRE D'ETAT,apres que le vote est certifie.












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Je ne pense pas que MC Connell approuvera  la nomination de  Rice  comme secrétaire d'État . De plus , si Biden gagne Georgia , Stacey devrait intégrer le gouvernement .

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Je ne fais pas trop confiance a SUSAN RICE,pas pour les memes raisons que MC CONNELL.

Quant a STACEY ABRAMS ,elle veut etre GOUVERNEURE de GEORGIA dans 2 ans ce qui lui donnerait un tremplin pour la PRESIDENCE.Elle est encore dans sa quarantaine.

Il faut remarquer que STACEY ABRAMS a fait un "fantastic job" dans GEORGIA pour basculer cet ETAT du SUD traditionellement REPUBLICAIN ,possiblement dans le CAMP DEMOCRATE.

Et puis ,tout n'est pas encore perdu pour le controle du SENAT,n'oublions pas le deuxieme tour en GEORGIA .Les CANDIDATS DEMOCRATES sont des "underdog" pour le RUNOFF,mais s'ils gagnent MC CONNELL perdra le CONTROLE du SENAT.

L'election senatoriale en GEORGIA ,lapremiere semaine du mois de JANVIER coutera au moins 100 MILLIONS de DOLLARS en plus ,d'apres les previsions.

Senate Majority in Balance as Perdue Re-election Race Goes to Runoff in Georgia
Mr. Perdue, a first-term Republican, narrowly failed to clear 50 percent of the vote, sending the race to a January runoff that, along with another runoff contest, will probably determine which party controls the Senate.


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Control of the Senate hung in the balance on Friday in Georgia after Senator David Perdue, a Republican, fell just short of the majority of votes he needed to win re-election, setting the stage for a second January runoff in the rapidly changing state.

With the Senate narrowly divided between Republicans and Democrats, the twin rematches scheduled for just two weeks before Inauguration Day will almost certainly determine which party comes away with the power to shape the fate of Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s agenda if he prevails to win the White House, as expected.

Facing such extraordinarily high stakes, both parties were quickly positioning themselves for a nine-week, year-end sprint that could cost another $100 million and amount to a referendum on the outcome of the presidential election. The runoffs promised to thrust a quickly evolving Georgia into the center of the nation’s political fray and test the extent of Democrats’ emerging strength in what was once a Republican stronghold in the Deep South.

Georgia’s special Senate election has been destined for a runoff since Tuesday, when the Rev. Dr. Raphael Warnock, a Democrat, and Senator Kelly Loeffler, a Republican, emerged as the top two vote getters in a crowded field vying to replace the retired senator Johnny Isakson.

But Republicans had hoped they could stave off a second such contest in Mr. Perdue’s case. By the time his race was called Friday night after a protracted count, though, Mr. Perdue had a razor-thin lead over Jon Ossoff, his Democratic challenger, and neither candidate claimed the majority of votes required under Georgia law to avoid a rematch.

Two other Senate races, in North Carolina and in Alaska, had not yet been called on Friday night. But Republicans were leading in both and expected to win, which would put them at 50 seats to the Democrats’ 48.

If Democrats took both of Georgia’s seats, they would draw the Senate to a 50-50 tie, effectively taking control of the chamber if Mr. Biden won the presidency, given the vice president’s power to cast tiebreaking votes. But that was a tall order in a state with deep conservative roots, and Republicans felt reasonably confident they could hang onto at least one of the seats needed to deny Democrats the majority, especially if January turnout slumps.

For Democrats, who have struggled in the past to turn out voters in runoffs, it will be a bank-shot attempt to harness total control of Washington after a spate of otherwise disappointing congressional elections. They were already so preoccupied with the task that in Washington, Speaker Nancy Pelosi urged Democratic lawmakers in a private call on Thursday to mind their messaging in the weeks ahead or risk alienating swing voters in Georgia.

Should Mr. Biden win, as appeared increasingly likely on Friday, Republicans will be motivated to deny him the majority, holding onto considerable power to shape at least the first two years of his term and thwarting liberal ambitions. A super PAC associated with Susan B. Anthony List, the anti-abortion group, already pledged on Thursday to spend $4 million for Mr. Perdue and Ms. Loeffler.

Regardless of the eventual outcome, the runoffs were a clear sign of Democrats’ growing power in Georgia. After years of predictions, the mobilization of Black voters and movement toward Democrats by educated white women in Atlanta’s suburbs signaled that Georgia’s status as a true battleground state might have finally arrived.

“Change has come to Georgia,” Mr. Ossoff predicated at a rally on Friday, “and Georgia is a part of the change coming to America.”

Mr. Perdue’s campaign made clear immediately that he would seek to nationalize the race, saying that a vote for Mr. Ossoff would be “a vote to hand power to Chuck Schumer and the radical Democrats in Washington.” Republicans were ready to try to harness the grievance among President Trump’s most ardent supporters, hoping that the president’s baseless claims of fraud and a backlash to his likely loss could power them to a win in January.

With Mr. Trump defying the election results, it was hard to predict how involved he might be in the Senate races. But early Friday morning, he insinuated in a tweet that Democrats were still trying to claim power through nefarious means so they could reverse Republican policies.

“Would End the Filibuster, ‘Life’, 2A, and would Pack and Rotate the Court. Presidency becomes even more important,” he wrote. “We will win!”

Ms. Loeffler, for one, rushed to court the president, repeatedly tweeting support for him and donating to his cause.

“Praying for four more years of @realDonaldTrump!” she wrote in one tweet.

For all of the national overtones, the races could also be a defining moment for Georgia, a battle between the New South represented by Atlanta and its increasingly diverse suburbs and the Old South dominated by rural and business conservatives.

Mr. Perdue, 70, a former chief executive of Reebok and Dollar General who beat his Democratic opponent by eight points in 2014, was initially expected to have an easy road to re-election.

But he was weighed down by voters’ displeasure with Mr. Trump’s coronavirus response — and by his own missteps. He faced accusations of anti-Semitism after running a Facebook advertisement that enlarged the nose of Mr. Ossoff, who is Jewish, a move his campaign blamed on a vendor. He struggled to keep up with Mr. Ossoff’s prodigious fund-raising, which exploded in mid-October after Mr. Perdue publicly mocked the first name of Senator Kamala Harris, his colleague in the Senate for nearly four years and the Democrats’ nominee for vice president.

“Kah-MAH-lah or KAH-mah-lah or Kamamboamamla — I don’t know,” he said at a rally for Mr. Trump in Macon, Ga. Mr. Perdue’s campaign said he had “simply mispronounced” the first name of Ms. Harris, a Black woman of Indian and Jamaican descent. Mr. Ossoff called it bullying and suggested it was racially insensitive.

As in his 2014 race, Mr. Perdue ran as a Washington outsider, campaigning in a denim jacket rather than the expensive tailored suits he wears in the Senate. The case was harder to make this time given his six-year record there. But he tied his campaign closely to another onetime outsider, Mr. Trump, and pushed ahead.

Mr. Perdue pounded Mr. Ossoff as too extreme for the state, distorting many of the Democrat’s positions on policing, health care and a range of other issues to try to scare moderate voters to his side. He praised Republicans’ tax and regulatory cuts, as well as the popular programs Congress approved to help unemployed Americans and small businesses weather the pandemic.

In a good sign for Republicans approaching the runoff, Mr. Perdue outperformed Mr. Trump in Tuesday’s voting, and Mr. Ossoff trailed Mr. Biden.

Mr. Ossoff, 33, tried to portray Mr. Perdue as a flunky for special interests who failed Georgia in a time of crisis and was putting people’s health care at risk by pressing to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Citing reports that Mr. Perdue was trading stocks early in the pandemic, Mr. Ossoff accused the senator of having been more interested in his own financial success than that of Georgians.

“Retirement is coming for Senator David Perdue,” Mr. Ossoff said on Friday. “A senator who saw fit to continue to attack our health care in the midst of a pandemic. A senator who told us that this disease that has taken a quarter of a million lives was no deadlier than the ordinary flu while he looked out for himself.”

The special election has followed a similar course thematically, but pits two very different candidates against each other. Dr. Warnock, 51, who emerged as the front-runner after Tuesday’s voting, is the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church, which the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once led.

Ms. Loeffler, 49, is a businesswoman and the richest member of the Senate. She overcame a stiff challenge from Representative Doug Collins, a fellow Republican. She poured more than $20 million of her own fortune into the race and had the backing of the state’s Republican governor and Senate Republicans’ campaign apparatus, who believed Ms. Loeffler’s record as a businesswoman could win back independent suburban voters, particularly women.

But the fight to edge out Mr. Collins turned bitter and personal, driving Ms. Loeffler to the hard right. She courted the support of Marjorie Taylor Greene, a QAnon conspiracy theorist who won a House seat on Tuesday in Georgia, and took other positions that could be hard to walk back in January even as she tries to reorient the campaign around her success as a businesswoman and record in Washington dealing with the coronavirus crisis.

On Thursday, she had already begun attacking Dr. Warnock, giving a glimpse of a playbook that will try to mine his messaging from years on the pulpit and liberal policy positions to portray him as a pastor in the mold of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., the former pastor of former President Barack Obama, whose “God damn America” sermon was used to attack the former president.

But Republicans are getting a late start. Consumed for much of the year with holding off Mr. Collins, Ms. Loeffler left Dr. Warnock largely untouched as he introduced himself to voters on purely positive terms as a pastor and healer.

Anticipating a barrage, Dr. Warnock used his first advertisement of the runoff, a spoof of a campaign-style attack ad released on Thursday, to try to prime voters for what was ahead.

“Get ready, Georgia, the negative ads are coming,” he says. “Kelly Loeffler doesn’t want to talk about why she’s for getting rid of health care in the middle of a pandemic, so she’s going to try and scare you with lies about me.”

Nicholas Fandos is a national reporter based in the Washington bureau. He has covered Congress since 2017 and is part of a team of reporters who have chronicled investigations by the Justice Department and Congress into President Trump and his administration. @npfandos

A version of this article appears in print on Nov. 7, 2020, Section A, Page 1 of the New York edition with the headline: Runoffs for Two Georgia Seats Put Control of Senate in Play. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe


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MARC;

J'ai entendu sur MSNBC que SUSAN RICE est le "front runner" pour etre SECRETAIRE D'ETAT.

On doute que MC CONNELL pourrait la bloquer.

Elle est NOIRE,une FEMME avec beaucoup d'EXPERIENCE ,elle est aussi surement a gauche d'une HILLARY CLINTON.

Pour dire ce sera un grand changement compare MIKE POMPEO.

Elle etait l'une des principales initiatrices du rapprochement avec CUBA comme CONSEILLERE A LA SECURITE NATIONALE d'OBAMA.

On aurait prefere quelqu'un plus a gauche ,mais si elle est nommee ,ce serait une tres grande difference comparee a L'ARCH CONSERVATEUR nomme MIKE POMPEO
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