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Message  OBSERVER KEEN Mar 12 Fév 2008 - 12:28

there is the myth that hillary has been challenged by serious republican candidates in elections before. that is just a myth. when she won her senate seat in new york where she was hand-picked by the late beloved patrick moyehan( whose seat she will eventually get), she did not win against pataki, guliani or any other strong new york republican. she won against two candidates who could not raise money or gain enough media coverage.
so, the idea that she has prevailed against republicans before in elections is a myth because i live in new york , the state she represents honorably in the senate.
i respect hillary clinton and recognize her intellect, and passion, but she is the wrong person to get that passion materialized into this partisan atmosphere.
she will alienate the republicans in congress in another failed aggressive attempt to get things done.

the best vp for obama is sebelius, the female governor of kansas!
why? she has been politically accomplished by her own efforts. she did not get there due to a very powerful husband; so her success is very appealing to feminists. so, women will vote for such a ticket on the basis of pride if that happens to be one of the factors. but she will do more than that. as a governor in a red state where she is extremely popular, she can deliver kansas for us; and another thing, her father was a very popular governor of ohio where she was born. so, she can deliver three very important things as we have just seen.
but hillary can only bring what obama would get in her own absence. the people that voted for hillary are reliable democrats who would not vote republican in most cases.
hillary needs obama more than obama needs hillary on a ticket.
the blue-collar democrats are not going to be upset because hillary was not chosen as vp because they are not that excited about hillary in the first place. if they were, they would have taken the time to make a difference for her in the caucus states. the students spent time away from classes to caucus for obama, but the blue-collar democratic women did no similar thing for clinton. you see, hillary has been the preferred candidate for the blue collar women by default, not by inspiration.

KEEP IN MIND THAT THROUGHOUT THE PRIMARY SEASON, CLINTON HAS NEVER BEEN AHEAD IN TERMS OF EARNED DELEGATES. HER LEAD HAS BEEN A PSEUDO-LEAD BECAUSE IT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION SUPERGELEGATES WHO ARE NOT YET PART OF THE PROCESS. SUPERDELAGES WERE INVENTED TO BREAK A TIE, BUT THERE IS NO SUCH TIE YET, SO COUNTING SUPERDELAGATES IS QUITE PREMATURE AND MISLEADING.


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Total Delegates11441138
Pledged Delegates1004925
National RCP Average43.945.0
Virginia55.037.3
Maryland55.032.7
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Total Delegates724234
National RCP Average49.327.2
General ElectionDemocratsRepublicans
Obama vs. McCainObama 47.4McCain 43.7
Clinton vs. McCainClinton 45.6McCain 46.6
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 12 Fév 2008 - 15:02

It is a tradition in the United Sates that the candidate who ranks second in a party during an election year becomes the Vice President.Or the party can choose a candidate that most likely will help the ticket .What politician is most likely to help the democratic ticket other than these two?One must remember that Hillary Clinton won in California ,New York , Florida.,Massachusetts.She has a good chance to win Pensyvania and Texas.The most populated states are in Senator Clinton's camp.So I think it will be a mistake to deny her the VP role ; I would stay home if the VP is not offered to Obama if he finishes second in the primaries.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 12 Fév 2008 - 17:30

I want for the education of our young readers cite some paragrafs of a column written by Robert Novak ,a Syndicated Columnist.The title of the piece is :"Gauging the Bradley Effect."

First of all ,let me say that Tom Bradley was a Black Mayor of the City of Los Angeles who was a candidate for Governor in California in 1982.This is what Novak wrote :

"Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley,an african-American Democrat ,in 1982 unexpectedly lost his "candidacy" for Governor of california.His defeat followed voters telling pollsters they prefer a black candidate and then voting the other way.

In california's primary last Tuesday ,Obama lost by a landslide 10 percentage points after late surveys showed him ahead by 10 and 13 points.

was this supeprised 20 points reversal caused by the bradley Effect,which has worried Democrats leader about Obama since he became an obstacle to Hillary Clinton's majectic procession to the Oval office?"

Since the beginning of the primaries I was intrigued by these polls.The California primary confrims my apprehension.The demcrats should not give credence to polls showing that Mr Obama will beat Mr Mac Cain.Whoever wins the nomination democrats should stay together to vote in great numbers to defeat the Republicans.
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