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Message  revelation Lun 23 Fév 2009 - 16:30

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Haitians facing deportation look to Obama for help

The United States is set to deport more than 30,000 Haitians to their impoverished homeland, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials announced this week.
A protest in response to the decision has been planned for Saturday, Feb. 21 in Broward County, Florida. Haitian activists and immigrants are calling for a halt to the arrests and a suspension of the deportations.

Deportation orders have been processed for 30,299 Haitians and they are starting to be implemented. Hundreds of Haitians have been put in camps awaiting the return home, while others have been put under a form of house arrest and are being monitored with electronic ankle bracelets, the AFP reported.

As the poorest nation in the western hemisphere, Haiti's troubles significantly increased with the passage of four deadly back-to-back storms last fall -- Fay, Gustav, Hanna and Ike -- that killed more than 800 persons and worsened the nation's food crisis. The storms devastated the small, impoverished island nation, washing away roads, bridges and crops. Thousands lost their homes. By some estimates, 80 percent of the country's population had been displaced by wide-ranging flood damage. A joint World Bank, United Nations and European Commission assessment released last November determined that total losses from the storms -- "the largest disaster for Haiti in more than 100 years" -- could equal 15 percent of Haiti's gross national product.

Haitian President René Préval has urged the United States to grant Haitians nationals in the United States temporary protection status as victims of natural disasters, insisting Haiti is still struggling to recover from last year's devastating hurricanes and cannot handle the return of its citizens. Haitian officials even said they will not issue the travel documents needed to process the deportees. But ICE argues that Haiti's resistance will force people to languish longer in crowded detention centers.


The U.S. government did halt deportations to Haiti for three months last year, starting in September. After resuming flights in December, the administration of then President George W. Bush denied Haiti's request for "temporary protected status." Temporary protected status, or TPS, is a special state granted to immigrants of certain nationalities who are unable to return to their countries because of armed conflict, environmental disasters, or other extraordinary and temporary conditions, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The designation would have allowed Haitians living in the United States illegally to stay and work temporarily as their home country recovered from the devastating storm season.

Several Florida lawmakers criticized the Department of Homeland Security's decision to resume deportations last December.
Haitian grassroots activists and immigration advocates have since renewed the call for TPS for Haitian nationals in the United States. Haitian advocates are upset that the new Obama White House seems to be maintaining the same policy of the past administrations -- one that advocates say represents a double-standard in dealing with Haitian immigrants.

Protected status has been granted and extended by the DHS to people from a handful of African and Central American countries because of natural disasters. For instance, Hondurans are still getting TPS from a natural disaster that occurred in 1999. In addition to Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan have temporary protected status through 2010. Yet, Haiti has never been granted such a status.

Over the years, the United States has become notorious for turning away Haitian "boat people" coming into South Florida seeking refuge and asylum from political upheaval and disaster.

The impact of U.S. and multinational policies continue to haunt the country. Over the years, due to harsh policies and pressure from the United States, World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, Haiti was forced to undergo strict structural adjustment policies that had a devastating impact on its local economy.

Critics argue that international lending organizations helped worsen hunger in Haiti by pursuing free market policies that undermined domestic rice production and turned the country into a market for U.S. rice. This food crisis was further compounded by crippling sanctions, political destabilization, and environmental destruction.
Now Haitian advocates are wondering if the Obama era will bring in fair immigration reform or just more of the same.


http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/02/will-obama-help-haitian-immigrants.html


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Desiree Evans wrote this article for Southern Studies.org
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Message  gwotoro Lun 23 Fév 2009 - 16:34

[...]For instance, Hondurans are still getting TPS from a natural disaster that occurred in 1999. In addition to Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan have temporary protected status through 2010. Yet, Haiti has never been granted such a status.[...]

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Message  revelation Lun 23 Fév 2009 - 17:09

Gwotoro said: [...]For instance, Hondurans are still getting TPS from a natural disaster that occurred in 1999. In addition to Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Sudan have temporary protected status through 2010. Yet, Haiti has never been granted such a status.[...]
Pwoblem sa se yon pwoblem Ayisyen!!
Nou ta remen we ke gouvenman Kanada pote sekou'l bay pep ayisyen nan pwoblem sa.

Les Zeta-Zinis pakab pote tout chaj sa sou dô'l. Kanadyen peye tax tou.

Fok Kanada pran 10,000 lakay yo.

La Frans pran 10,000 lakay li

et Les Zeta-Zini rest 10,000+ ki rete yo.

Yo fe magouy ansanb, fok yo pran responsabilite yo ansanb!!

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Message  Nickie Lun 23 Fév 2009 - 19:53

Revelation, mdakô ak opinyonw lan wi, men Kanada gentan pran anpil nan Ayisyen USA ki gen pwoblèm imigrasyon yo. Sa pouw ta di, sé pou yo ta rann yo légal, bayo bout rézidans la, paské sé pa sèten ké tout moun ki pran refij yo ap jwen rézidans. Men sé vré USA, Kanada, Lafrans, sé 3 peyi ki pa wont fè magouy ansanm sou do péyi dayiti, sé pou yo patajé pwoblèm nan tou Very Happy
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Message  revelation Mar 24 Fév 2009 - 12:09

Nickie di: Revelation, mdakô ak opinyonw lan wi, men Kanada gentan pran anpil nan Ayisyen USA ki gen pwoblèm imigrasyon yo. Sa pouw ta di, sé pou yo ta rann yo légal, bayo bout rézidans la, paské sé pa sèten ké tout moun ki pran refij yo ap jwen rézidans. Men sé vré USA, Kanada, Lafrans, sé 3 peyi ki pa wont fè magouy ansanm sou do péyi dayiti, sé pou yo patajé pwoblèm nan tou
Se pa rezidans ke imigran ayisyen yo bezwen konnyen la Nickie. Se sitou travay ke yap chache !!
Si oganizasyon internasyonal yo te kap ouvri biwo travay pou amboche ayisyen pou travay manuel e seazonnye, kankou rekolte tomate, karrot, raisin, zoranj, seriz, peach, mellon, e tout lot legim yo sa ta bon anpil.

Travay manuel sa yo seazonye e machin indistryel pakab fe yo.

Anpil fermye kanadyen ta renmen gen kelke ayisyen pou 6 a 9 mwa rekolt. Apre say o ta retounnen lakay yo avek yon salaire bokou pli siperye ke say o fe an Ayiti. Sa tap pemet yo voye piti yo lekol, achte bef ak kabwit e bati kay.
E chak seazon ta konsa.
Se pa rezidans ki nan tet moun sa yo konnyen la, se travay ke yo bezwen.
Si blan pa pote travay bayo, fok se yo ki pou al chache’l.

MIAMI - The crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Spencer returned 214 Haitian migrants to Cap Haitien, Haiti, Monday Febryary 23, 2009 after the crew of the Coast Guard Cutter Pea Island located a grossly overloaded sail freighter about 23 miles east of Cuba Friday evening.

While on a routine Caribbean Sea law-enforcement patrol, the Pea Island crew spotted the overloaded vessel.
The nearby cutter Spencer arrived on scene early Saturday morning and both crews began efforts to rescue the 187 adults, 16 children and 11 infants from the unsafe vessel.
During the rescue, one migrant fell overboard from the sail freighter and was immediately recovered in good condition by Coast Guard small boat crewmembers.
No migrants or rescuers were injured during the extensive effort to safely disembark the 214 migrants from the vessel.

"The patrol presence of our cutters off the coast of Haiti continues to prevent the potential loss of life that has occurred too many times when grossly overloaded vessels take to the sea in an attempt to illegally migrate to the United States," said Coast Guard Capt. Peter Brown, Seventh District chief of law enforcement.

"Alien Migrant Interdiction Operations are as much humanitarian missions as they are border security missions.

The Coast Guard will continue to rescue Haitian migrants from their peril at sea and will always do so in a professional manner that preserves the dignity of all people."

All migrants were safely transferred to the cutter and provided basic medical care, food, water and shelter from the elements.
The cutter Spencer is a 270-foot medium endurance cutter home ported in Boston.
The cutter Pea Island is a 110-foot patrol boat homeported in Key West, Fla
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Message  Rico Mar 24 Fév 2009 - 13:03

Nickie a écrit:
Revelation, mdakô ak opinyonw lan wi, men Kanada gentan pran anpil nan Ayisyen USA ki gen pwoblèm imigrasyon yo. Sa pouw ta di, sé pou yo ta rann yo légal, bayo bout rézidans la, paské sé pa sèten ké tout moun ki pran refij yo ap jwen rézidans. Men sé vré USA, Kanada, Lafrans, sé 3 peyi ki pa wont fè magouy ansanm sou do péyi dayiti, sé pou yo patajé pwoblèm nan tou Very Happy



Nickie mwen se yon Monreyalè pou rezon pèsonèl mwen pap di ki kote m te travay o nivo fonskyon piblik federal. Dosye sayo mwen konnen yo byen anpil. Zafè travayè sezonye gen yon antant ak Meksik ak Kanada-Kebek ki founi anpil travèyè sezonye sayo.


Gen yon oganis aysyisyen ki te apwoche imigrasyon Kebek ak imigrasyon kanada pou favorize travayè Ayisyen pou boulo latè Kebekwa refize. Premyèman sa pral kout two chè pou Agrikiltè yo peye ale retou pou yon travayè ki bezwen yon tikè ki depase 4 a 6 mwa soti Ayitim pou vinn Okebek.

Parol ki soti nan diskisyon ki pa vreman pale ak entèvenan sayo fèe konnen Ayisyen pap retounen tankou Mèksiken lakay yo apre kontra. Se pwouve se pèp ki pi mawon, ki pa respèkte antant li pran pou anpil rezon nou konnen.

Aktyelman bann Meksiken sayo sou plizyè ale retou nan kilti latè. Se pou di w avan menm Meksiken yo se Ayisyen fanm tankou gason ki pi gwo kliyantèl kap travaj nan jaden Okebek. Saki pase pa gen vreman travay nan tekstil, soulye, manifaktik jwèt ak lot endistri asanblaj , ayisyen sayo ki menm lè yo eskolarize sètoblije tonbe nan jaden.

Si w vle kwè m ale nan tout zonn andeyo tankou St jean sou Richelye, jis nan kanton lès pou wè se Ayisyen ak rezidans e menm kanadyen ki deja nan travay jaden sayo chak ete.
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Message  Rico Mar 24 Fév 2009 - 14:27

Se pa rezidans ke imigran ayisyen yo bezwen konnyen la Nickie. Se sitou travay ke yap chache !!
Si oganizasyon internasyonal yo te kap ouvri biwo travay pou amboche ayisyen pou travay manuel e seazonnye, kankou rekolte tomate, karrot, raisin, zoranj, seriz, peach, mellon, e tout lot legim yo sa ta bon anpil. revelasyon



Mezanmiro ala kote w tande parol. Eske se vreman Ayisyen kap pale. Se sitou travay Ayisyen ap chèche. Non non non mesye dam travay se youn nan pi gwo faktè yo. Men Ayisyen an se yon kote yap cherche pou soti nan move enpas o pwen vi sosyal sitou . Yo pa gen bon lekol ou pa gen ditou , yo pa gen trankilite lespri yo. Yo pa gen jistis se mache pou pa pile sayo pa konnen.


Depi l lese peyi sa an grann pati se yon chape poul, adyos Ayiti. Nou nan manti pi fo, ti nèg pa kontante selman fè lajan, retounen Ayiti se anko yon pongogon .

Tankou nou tout isi ak madanm nou e pitit yo vle menm bagay la, byen layite yo nan yon sosyete nomal. Ayisyen am jeneral se yon egzile fose nan fwi peyi a.


Ale mande yon pov peyizan nan Miyami ki lè retou l pou Ayiti. Se twchwipppe li anvi tchwippe w. Li pa te janm yon moun nan prop peyi l, yo pa bezwen l, alos dekipreyen pou retounen kote yo pa te janm rekonèt li ni aksèpte li. Wi li gen pou retoun fè brodè, demontre se te yon moun tankou tout moun.


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Message  Rico Mar 24 Fév 2009 - 15:02

Mwen di nou dwe twouve lot mwayen pou solisyonen kriz sa. Dayè mobilizasyon sa mwen kontan anpil. Men li mal dirije, annou atake vrè sous pwoblèm lan . Paske sa nap fè nan forom, nan pratik mwen Rico se te yon militan an premye liy ki te kanpe ak defen Pè Dejean, Karl Levèk e latriye nan Kominote Kretyenn dè Zayisyen pou defann anpil ka depotasyon Ayisyen Okebek.

Nou si telman batay durrrr ke gouvenman pwovensyal achte koz nou nan yon kanpay depotasyon premye group ilegal Ayisyen o kebek. Yo te batize mouvman sa an bon franse: ''OPERATION MON PAYS''. Gouvenman Federal ki gen kontrol imigrasyon sètoblije kanpe sou tout depotasyon Ayisyen ki te san papye.

Apre kou sa se toujou menm lit pou yo pa retounen frè nou yo. Map pale koze o debi 72 pou nou rive jouk jounen jodyè a nan menm lit sa.Toujou menm demand konsa. Apre 30 000 mil sayo tann pou tande konbyen apre. Se la mwen di non sispann demonstrasyon sayo ak pèt enèji. Blan yo finn konnen nou. Louvri vann yo pral anvayi anko pi devan..

Se la mwen di nou dwe pi entelijan twouve lot solisyon. Annou dirje lit a lenteryè dAyiti. Annou mande blan yo akonpanye nou pou koresponn ak bann machann peyi, volo ki pa vle anyen pou peyi sa. Se nou Ayisyen ki dwe regle prop zafè nou. Sispann lonje kwi w nou, mande moun yo solisyon dan bonbon. DE PREFERANS ITILIZE YO POU TWOUVE SOLISYON PÈMANANT .
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Message  Nickie Mar 24 Fév 2009 - 16:23

Mwen konprann e mwen kwèw, men sé difisil pou Ayisyen parèy nou yo, sa fèm lapenn anpil, sitou mwen pa ka fè anyen pou édé yo. Ayiti pa ka resevwa tout moun sa yo. Anpil ladan yo te konn soutni fanmi ki pi mal Ayiti, sé ou katastwôf
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