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French President Sarkozy Arrives in Haiti
revelation Mer 17 Fév 2010 - 10:22
By MICHELLE FAUL
The Associated Press
Wednesday, February 17, 2010; 9:48 AM
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- France's national anthem blared across the tarmac on Wednesday as Nicolas Sarkozy made the first visit ever by a French president to Haiti, once his nation's richest colony - offering aid to a country prostrate after a catastrophic earthquake.
Sarkozy, who was greeted by Haitian President Rene Preval as a brass band played the Marseillaise, toured a French field hospital in the earthquake-ravaged capital before giving a brief speech at the undamaged French Embassy.
He said his visit had particular resonance given France and Haiti's historical ties and acknowledged that the "wounds of colonization" were perhaps still fresh in the minds of many Haitians, some of whom blame France for the country's troubles.
"We are living a pivotal moment, a moment of truth for Haiti," Sarkozy said.
Sarkozy said Haiti needs a reconstruction plan that bolsters the outlying provinces to help shift people away from Port-au-Prince, the Caribbean's most densely populated capital. He said one reason the death toll was so high was that the city was not built to sustain such a large population.
He also said it is time for Haiti to take control of its destiny and free itself from dependence on foreign aid.
"The Haitian people have been wounded ... The Haitian people are standing," he said, ending the speech by saying "Vive la France, Vive Haiti."
Some Haitians are welcoming France's new interest in their nation as a counterbalance to the United States, which has sent troops there three times in the past 16 years. But Sarkozy's visit is also reviving bitter memories of the crippling costs of Haiti's 1804 independence.
A third of the population was killed in an uprising against exceptionally brutal slavery, an international embargo was imposed to deter slave revolts elsewhere and 90 million pieces of gold were demanded by Paris from the world's first black republic.
The debt hobbled Haiti, it seemed for life.
A country plagued by natural and unnatural calamities was desperately poor and mismanaged even before a magnitude-7 earthquake smashed up the capital Port-au-Prince on Jan. 12, killing more than 200,000 people and leaving more than a million homeless.
Haitian politicians this week diplomatically skirted the question of French reparations - a demand put to Paris by ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004. That suggests Sarkozy's four-hour visit could herald a new era.
French officials say Sarkozy will announce details of "a French plan for the reconstruction of Haiti" - if Haitian officials agree. It differs little from proposals from Haitian, U.S. and U.N. officials to decentralize power away from the devastated capital and boost agriculture and tourism.
The trip brings Sarkozy to an island where, French officials acknowledge, fascination with things French duels with strong, lingering resentments.
One official close to the French presidency, briefing reporters in Paris on condition of anonymity, hinted that France is not deaf to calls for reparations, calling Sarkozy's visit "an occasion to show that France is mobilizing to give Haitians control of their destiny and pay past debts."
France has already said it was canceling all of Haiti's 56 million euro (US$77 million) debt to Paris.
In 1825, crippled by the U.S.-led international embargo that was enforced by French warships, Haiti agreed to pay France 150 million francs in compensation for the lost "property" - including slaves - of French plantation owners.
By comparison, France sold the United States its immensely larger Louisiana Territory in 1803 for just 60 million francs. The amount for Haiti was later lowered to 90 million gold francs.
Haiti did not finish paying the debilitating debt - which was swollen by massive interest payments to French and American banks - until 1947.
But Haiti's wealth already was destroyed. It had been the world's richest colony, providing half the globe's sugar and other exports including coffee, cotton, hardwood and indigo that exceeded the value of everything produced in the United States in 1788.
By the early 1780s, half of Haiti's forests were gone, leading to the devastating erosion and extreme poverty that bedevils the country today.
France's other former colonies in the region - Guadeloupe, Martinique, St. Martin, St. Barts and Guiana (in South America) - all have voted to remain part of France and send legislators to the French parliament.
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Associated Press Writer Elaine Ganley contributed to this report from Paris.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021700998.html
The Associated Press
Wednesday, February 17, 2010; 9:48 AM
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- France's national anthem blared across the tarmac on Wednesday as Nicolas Sarkozy made the first visit ever by a French president to Haiti, once his nation's richest colony - offering aid to a country prostrate after a catastrophic earthquake.
Sarkozy, who was greeted by Haitian President Rene Preval as a brass band played the Marseillaise, toured a French field hospital in the earthquake-ravaged capital before giving a brief speech at the undamaged French Embassy.
He said his visit had particular resonance given France and Haiti's historical ties and acknowledged that the "wounds of colonization" were perhaps still fresh in the minds of many Haitians, some of whom blame France for the country's troubles.
"We are living a pivotal moment, a moment of truth for Haiti," Sarkozy said.
Sarkozy said Haiti needs a reconstruction plan that bolsters the outlying provinces to help shift people away from Port-au-Prince, the Caribbean's most densely populated capital. He said one reason the death toll was so high was that the city was not built to sustain such a large population.
He also said it is time for Haiti to take control of its destiny and free itself from dependence on foreign aid.
"The Haitian people have been wounded ... The Haitian people are standing," he said, ending the speech by saying "Vive la France, Vive Haiti."
Some Haitians are welcoming France's new interest in their nation as a counterbalance to the United States, which has sent troops there three times in the past 16 years. But Sarkozy's visit is also reviving bitter memories of the crippling costs of Haiti's 1804 independence.
A third of the population was killed in an uprising against exceptionally brutal slavery, an international embargo was imposed to deter slave revolts elsewhere and 90 million pieces of gold were demanded by Paris from the world's first black republic.
The debt hobbled Haiti, it seemed for life.
A country plagued by natural and unnatural calamities was desperately poor and mismanaged even before a magnitude-7 earthquake smashed up the capital Port-au-Prince on Jan. 12, killing more than 200,000 people and leaving more than a million homeless.
Haitian politicians this week diplomatically skirted the question of French reparations - a demand put to Paris by ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide in 2004. That suggests Sarkozy's four-hour visit could herald a new era.
French officials say Sarkozy will announce details of "a French plan for the reconstruction of Haiti" - if Haitian officials agree. It differs little from proposals from Haitian, U.S. and U.N. officials to decentralize power away from the devastated capital and boost agriculture and tourism.
The trip brings Sarkozy to an island where, French officials acknowledge, fascination with things French duels with strong, lingering resentments.
One official close to the French presidency, briefing reporters in Paris on condition of anonymity, hinted that France is not deaf to calls for reparations, calling Sarkozy's visit "an occasion to show that France is mobilizing to give Haitians control of their destiny and pay past debts."
France has already said it was canceling all of Haiti's 56 million euro (US$77 million) debt to Paris.
In 1825, crippled by the U.S.-led international embargo that was enforced by French warships, Haiti agreed to pay France 150 million francs in compensation for the lost "property" - including slaves - of French plantation owners.
By comparison, France sold the United States its immensely larger Louisiana Territory in 1803 for just 60 million francs. The amount for Haiti was later lowered to 90 million gold francs.
Haiti did not finish paying the debilitating debt - which was swollen by massive interest payments to French and American banks - until 1947.
But Haiti's wealth already was destroyed. It had been the world's richest colony, providing half the globe's sugar and other exports including coffee, cotton, hardwood and indigo that exceeded the value of everything produced in the United States in 1788.
By the early 1780s, half of Haiti's forests were gone, leading to the devastating erosion and extreme poverty that bedevils the country today.
France's other former colonies in the region - Guadeloupe, Martinique, St. Martin, St. Barts and Guiana (in South America) - all have voted to remain part of France and send legislators to the French parliament.
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Associated Press Writer Elaine Ganley contributed to this report from Paris.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021700998.html
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Re: French President Sarkozy Arrives in Haiti
revelation Mer 17 Fév 2010 - 10:48
Akoz de ambargo ke les USA e la France te mete ansamb sou jeune Repiblik Ayiti a nou te oblije bay la France 150 million franc an or. Aloske les USA te achte gwo eta la Louisianne pou yon ti kwaze lajan de 60 million franc.In 1825, crippled by the U.S.-led international embargo that was enforced by French warships, Haiti agreed to pay France 150 million francs in compensation for the lost "property" - including slaves - of French plantation owners.
By comparison, France sold the United States its immensely larger Louisiana Territory in 1803 for just 60 million francs. The amount for Haiti was later lowered to 90 million gold francs.
Haiti did not finish paying the debilitating debt - which was swollen by massive interest payments to French and American banks - until 1947.
Sou koutaj ke la France e les USA mete ansamb pou fe sou do Ayiti a, avek lajan ke nou peye a nou te kamb achte la Louisianne tou.
Nou kab konkli ke sou kont mal taille sa,
sou patisipasyon direct ambargo e intimidation e duress ke les USA fe sou nou pou peye la France 150 million franc an aloske yo memm peye mwens ke sa pou memm article e pwodui a ki se yon teritwa, yon bout ter, yon terren 3 fwa plis gwo ke siperfisi Ayiti.
Nan deal realstate maltaye sa kote yon achte fe konplo avek yon vender pou vend yon but terren pli cher a yon lot achte pa admisib ditou devan tribinal !!
Nan tribinal jodiya les USA osi koupab ke la France e nou gen dwa mande les USA reparation tou.
Yo[USA-France] konnen tre byen ke yo fe yon kont maltaye sou dô Ayiti!!
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Re: French President Sarkozy Arrives in Haiti
Joel Jeu 18 Fév 2010 - 8:50
USA koupab ,men la Frans pi koupab.
Kanta fasinasyon ke ayisyen genyen pou la Frans lan,gen menm franse ki pa fin konprann fasinasyon sa a.
Genyen zile Karayib Angle yo ki te pran endepandans yo lan men Angletè ,yo pa gen fasinasyon ke nou genyen a la Frans,yomenm pa rapò a Langletè.
Ayè mwen t ap tande yon entèvyou ke GEORGE MICHEL t ap bay Radyo Signal FM.
Misye ap chache dedwane la Frans .Misye t ap bay eksplikasyon si "convoluted" (tankou Ameriken yo di l) ke mwen pa ta ka eseye eksplike bagay sa a sou fowòm lan ,paske se ensilte mwen ta ensilte entelijans fowomè yo.
Misye di ke 90 milyon fran an se pa "dèt lendepandans" ,se reparasyon pou tè ak pwopriyete kolon yo ;paske noumenm Ayisyen nou pa vòlò ,paske si nou pran tè moun ,se pou nou dedomaje yo.
Se pou m rete la ,mwen te di ke mwen pa vle ensilte entelijans nou.
Men tou ,mesye sa yo ,ke y ap bay tèt yo tit istoryen ,se yon danje yo ye pou "psyche" pèp ayisyen an!
Kanta fasinasyon ke ayisyen genyen pou la Frans lan,gen menm franse ki pa fin konprann fasinasyon sa a.
Genyen zile Karayib Angle yo ki te pran endepandans yo lan men Angletè ,yo pa gen fasinasyon ke nou genyen a la Frans,yomenm pa rapò a Langletè.
Ayè mwen t ap tande yon entèvyou ke GEORGE MICHEL t ap bay Radyo Signal FM.
Misye ap chache dedwane la Frans .Misye t ap bay eksplikasyon si "convoluted" (tankou Ameriken yo di l) ke mwen pa ta ka eseye eksplike bagay sa a sou fowòm lan ,paske se ensilte mwen ta ensilte entelijans fowomè yo.
Misye di ke 90 milyon fran an se pa "dèt lendepandans" ,se reparasyon pou tè ak pwopriyete kolon yo ;paske noumenm Ayisyen nou pa vòlò ,paske si nou pran tè moun ,se pou nou dedomaje yo.
Se pou m rete la ,mwen te di ke mwen pa vle ensilte entelijans nou.
Men tou ,mesye sa yo ,ke y ap bay tèt yo tit istoryen ,se yon danje yo ye pou "psyche" pèp ayisyen an!
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Re: French President Sarkozy Arrives in Haiti
revelation Jeu 18 Fév 2010 - 10:44
Joel di: USA koupab ,men la Frans pi koupab.
Nou di ke si le USA pat mete pression 25 annee ambago sa sou Ayiti pandan tout tan sa pou yo te sa kenbe esklavaj la kay yo, Ayiti te kap resiste a demand e extorsyon la Frans la.
A qui a profite ce crime odieux contre l’humanité? Se kestion sa pou yo vinn repond.
Joel di:Kanta fasinasyon ke ayisyen genyen pou la Frans lan,gen menm franse ki pa fin konprann fasinasyon sa a. Genyen zile Karayib Angle yo ki te pran endepandans yo lan men Angletè ,yo pa gen fasinasyon ke nou genyen a la Frans,yomenm pa rapò a Langletè.
Joel se pa yon fasinasyon men yon culture akoz de kolonizasyon fransez la pandan exzistans nou.
Nou fet e grandi nan culture sa!
Map di an passan ke ti zile angle Karayib yo pat pran independans yo, se bayo ke l’anglete te bayo indepandans yo dan le zannee 50, 60 etc e malgre sa anpil nan peyi sa yo fe pati commonwealth britanik la.Menn Kanada ki gwo peyi politikman e sosyalman attache a l’Angleterre.
M’we anpil mesye karayibeyen sa yo avek passpo commonwealth britanik e anpil pale angle memm jan ak william Shakespeare. Yo konseve culture anglez la memm jan tou gen anpil Ayisyen ki konseve yon culture fransez.
Pa gen mal nan sa Joel!
Se yon bagay ki tre “a la mode avant et ces jours ci » !
Joel di: Ayè mwen t ap tande yon entèvyou ke GEORGE MICHEL t ap bay Radyo Signal FM.Misye di ke 90 milyon fran an se pa "dèt lendepandans" ,se reparasyon pou tè ak pwopriyete kolon yo ;paske noumenm Ayisyen nou pa vòlò ,paske si nou pran tè moun ,se pou nou dedomaje yo.
Pou zafe te a, li pat pou ni la France ni pou Ayisyen!
Sak batay pouli a e ki gennyen batay la e plante drapo’l, ke se l’Espagne, Angleterre, Portigues etc se pou yo te a.
Se konsa ke konket ak dappiyant te konn fet lontan.
Ayisyen te vinn genyen batay la sou tout peyi sa yo, Ayiti plante drapo’l e peyi sa yo respekte sa!
Se memm bagay la ke le USA te fe tou nan zonn nan. Se te politik “gwo ponyet”
Pou zafe propriyete kolon yo ki te kwaze a, majorite la dan yo se propriete gwo investisse, bank ak mezon d’assurans donk Ayiti pat gen pou te remet moun sa yo okenn reparation ni dedomajman paske plantasyon sa yo te kouvri pa asirrans.
Mem jan tou si gen dezod politik anba la ville PotoPrins e vitre magazin kwaze, machandis disparet, met magazin sa yo pakab vinn mande gouvenman Ayisyen an reparation ak dedomajman pou pert sa yo paske lwa kommersyal mande pou komessan sa yo gen assirans.
Ayiti gen asse evidans ak prev nan men yo pou la France ak USA dedomaje yo deske nou kokobe ekonomikman e sosyalman konnyen la.
Fok Ayiti mande aid e sipo nan men , professe d’histwa, archiviste, biblioteker etc.. E poze sele sou dossye assirans e banker nan men la Holland, France, angletterre, Portigal e tout peyi kolonist e eklavagist sa yo pou banou jarret nan demand sa.
Si nap kite bagay sa nan men politisyen magouye, mizisyen, aktivist, afrocentrik, fo nationalist ki la pou fe vanjans e insilte kolonist an piblik, pitit zanset nou yo pap jamb jwen anyen ke yo vreman merite.
Fok nou serye sou zafe sa e offisyalize demand sa.
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