Campagne presidentielle financee par fonds Petrocaribe
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Campagne presidentielle financee par fonds Petrocaribe
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Mwen pa si bet ke sa lè m te konn ap di ke nan yon peyi pov tankou ayiti se yon stipidite pou nou ap gaspiye lajan chak 2 zan pou nou fè elektyon malatchyong ki lwen de kreye stabilite nan peyi ya se okasyon de krim ,de diskord e de koriptyon.Men politiysen sankoutya pa janm gade reyalite beswen peyi ya ki te mele yo si pep la pa ka domi ni lan nwit ni la jounen anba tant yo.nan tou peyi kote genyen moun ki ap panse ratyonelman bagay saa te dwe chanje lontan.Yon peyi kote gouvenman an pa ka ranmase fatra nan la ri;se dominiken ki ap fè nou kado yon iniversite ki rele iniversite men fout fok yo depanse millions pou yo fè elektyon chak 2 zan.Alò se menm moun sa yo pou yon moun ta dim ki pou kontinye ap dirije peyi ya?Tonnè de dye.yo pa konn wont?
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Epi sa ki pi mal lan, lajan ke y ap depanse pou fè kanpay sa yo se vòlò ke yo vòlò yo. Alò, kijan pou peyi an fè genyen yon balans vre? Tout sa ki sou pouvwa, se foure men pran, pandan ke lòt kandida pa genyen aksè ak lajan sa yo?
Li lè pou nou amande lwa yo nan peyi an, moun ki vòlò lajan leta ta dwe fiziye sou plas piblik.
Alò, nou ta nayif anpil si nou konprann ke ti nèg pral depanse tout lajan saa, menm si se lajan vòlò, pou yo vin sesi oubyen sela jis pou ede peyi an sòti nan malsite, tout milyon nou tande ki pral depanse la yo, se "envèstisman". Yo genyen pou yo tire tout lajan sa yo ak benefis, epi ki moun ki pral peye po kase an? ...Pèp la.
Li lè pou nou amande lwa yo nan peyi an, moun ki vòlò lajan leta ta dwe fiziye sou plas piblik.
Alò, nou ta nayif anpil si nou konprann ke ti nèg pral depanse tout lajan saa, menm si se lajan vòlò, pou yo vin sesi oubyen sela jis pou ede peyi an sòti nan malsite, tout milyon nou tande ki pral depanse la yo, se "envèstisman". Yo genyen pou yo tire tout lajan sa yo ak benefis, epi ki moun ki pral peye po kase an? ...Pèp la.
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Mon chè genyen yon bagay ou di la :"moun ki volè lajan leta te dwe fisye sou plas piblik" se vrè solutyon kont koryptyon an.Chinwa yo pa genyen pwoblem konsa lakay yo paske depi tribinal pep la finn jije w e kondane w yo kondwi w tou dwat al pran sa w merite.Yon anploye leta ki ap touche tout kob sa yo nan yon peyi pov tankou ayiti e ki genyen dwet long nanpren jan w ka reyabilite yon moun konsa nan prison;dayè yo konnen ak lajan yo yo pap dire anpil nan prison an. .Doktè volè ki te nan CEp sim te chef an ayiti mwen tap komanse trase yon ekzanp sou li.depi se moun ki Minis ke kou siperye kont lan jwen ou te volo lajan se mete yo nan poto ;apre ke w fisye 10 konsa wa wè si koryptyon pa tap fini an ayiti.nanpren omlet ki fet san kase ze.fok yo retabli penn de mò an ayiti pou moun genyen repo despri ak volò, ak kriminel kidnapè.se lè saa moun a vinn envesti lajan yo nan peyi ya.Volè a chemiz blanch ak kravat nan kou yo a la pi kiriminel ke ti volè patat yo.
Yon zanmim banm yon blag: anvan Aristide te presidan genyen yon anploye teleko ki te pran 500 dola nan men yon kliyan poul te ba li telefonn.jou Aristide eli presidan anploye teleco pote lajan an remet kliyan an.Lè kliyan mande l poukisa ou fè m saa jan mwen beswen telefonn lan ki sa mwen pral fè.Anploye teleko reponn li :gen lè w pa byen nan tet w ou pa tande ki moun ki presidan.ou vle pou mwen al pran prison pou 500 dola.mwen site ekzanp saa pou montre ke koryptyon se pa yon pwoblem ki pa ka resoud si moun ki a la tet peyi ya pat korompi yo menm.zafè grese pat mwen pou m ba w sèvis saa toutan li pa sispann e byen yap toujou site non ayiti pami peyi ki pi korompi.e se bagay sa yo ki fè map pale de yon revolutyon kiltirel an ayiti.fok genyen yon chanjman ki fet nan mantalite ayisyen anvan pou peyi saa ka fè yon pa an avan.Presidan ap volè, minis ap volè pi piti anploye leta ap volè: yal fè odit nan magasen Misye Goldenberg depi anvan yo komanse fè travay yo yap mande met magasen yan pou li voye achte yon lè malte ak yon hamburger pou yo.ki jan pou vle yon peyi mache ak yon tel koruptyon.
Yon zanmim banm yon blag: anvan Aristide te presidan genyen yon anploye teleko ki te pran 500 dola nan men yon kliyan poul te ba li telefonn.jou Aristide eli presidan anploye teleco pote lajan an remet kliyan an.Lè kliyan mande l poukisa ou fè m saa jan mwen beswen telefonn lan ki sa mwen pral fè.Anploye teleko reponn li :gen lè w pa byen nan tet w ou pa tande ki moun ki presidan.ou vle pou mwen al pran prison pou 500 dola.mwen site ekzanp saa pou montre ke koryptyon se pa yon pwoblem ki pa ka resoud si moun ki a la tet peyi ya pat korompi yo menm.zafè grese pat mwen pou m ba w sèvis saa toutan li pa sispann e byen yap toujou site non ayiti pami peyi ki pi korompi.e se bagay sa yo ki fè map pale de yon revolutyon kiltirel an ayiti.fok genyen yon chanjman ki fet nan mantalite ayisyen anvan pou peyi saa ka fè yon pa an avan.Presidan ap volè, minis ap volè pi piti anploye leta ap volè: yal fè odit nan magasen Misye Goldenberg depi anvan yo komanse fè travay yo yap mande met magasen yan pou li voye achte yon lè malte ak yon hamburger pou yo.ki jan pou vle yon peyi mache ak yon tel koruptyon.
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Yon zanmim ap ba w yon blag anvan Aristide te presidan genyen yon anploye teleko ki te pran 500 dola nan men yon kliyan poul te ba li telefonn.jou Aristide li presidan anploye teleco pote lajan remet kliyan an.Lè kliyan mande l poukisa ou fè m saa jan mwen beswen telefonn lan ki sa mwen pral fè.Anploye teleko reponn li :gen lè w pa byen nan tet w ou pa tande ki moun ki presidan.ou vle pou mwen al pran prison pou 500 dola.mwen site ekzanp saa piou montre ke koryptyon se pa yon pwoblem ki pa ka resoud
LOL... Aristide ki pa tolere voler? lol. Se vraiman le ka de "Makou ap veye mimi, chat ap veye lèt..." LOL.....
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Kami
Li byen sam ekri ya se anvan Aristide te presidan premye fwa wi.nanpren moun ki ta ka panse ke yon jou non Aristide ta site nan koriptyon.e se yonn nan rezon ki fè mwen ta vote pou li sim te an ayiti an 1990.paske mwen te kwè li se yon moun onet, humble,charitab ,pragmatic , dynamik e ki genyen kouraj.
Li byen sam ekri ya se anvan Aristide te presidan premye fwa wi.nanpren moun ki ta ka panse ke yon jou non Aristide ta site nan koriptyon.e se yonn nan rezon ki fè mwen ta vote pou li sim te an ayiti an 1990.paske mwen te kwè li se yon moun onet, humble,charitab ,pragmatic , dynamik e ki genyen kouraj.
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J'ai posé cette question sur facebook.com:
"Is the presidency an overrated function?In other words can a President deliver his campaign promises if the people who control the means of production can buy the votes of members of Congress.Why do some members of the Congress of the United states refuse to pass the law that limits the amount of money a corporation can contribute to a politician's campaign funds?
Que pensez-vous?Cette question s'adresse aussi aux citoyens haitiens.
"Is the presidency an overrated function?In other words can a President deliver his campaign promises if the people who control the means of production can buy the votes of members of Congress.Why do some members of the Congress of the United states refuse to pass the law that limits the amount of money a corporation can contribute to a politician's campaign funds?
Que pensez-vous?Cette question s'adresse aussi aux citoyens haitiens.
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Le gros roseau a écrit:J'ai posé cette question sur facebook.com:
"Is the presidency an overrated function?In other words can a President deliver his campaign promises if the people who control the means of production can buy the votes of members of Congress.
Why do some members of the Congress of the United states refuse to pass the law that limits the amount of money a corporation can contribute to a politician's campaign funds?
Que pensez-vous?Cette question s'adresse aussi aux citoyens haitiens.
Premye kestyon-an eske se yon kestyon ou yon afimasyon? kisa ou vle konen, ki sa ou vle di an som?
Pou dezyem kestyon an: Paske se repiblikin yo ye, yo panse ke se nan avantaj yo ruling nan te pase. Min pa bliye ke yon corporation ak yon labor toujour kontribye nan tou les de gran pati yo, demokrat e repiblikin, yo roule 2 bo. Par kont majorite demokrat pa renmin ruling supreme court lan. Prezidan Obama te eksploze ler sa te fet.
The law prohibits contributions from corporations and labor unions. This prohibition applies to any incorporated organization, profit or nonprofit. For example, the owner of an incorporated "mom and pop" grocery store is not permitted to use a business account to make contributions. Instead, the owner would have to use a personal account. A corporate employee may make contributions through a nonrepayable corporate drawing account, which allows the individual to draw personal funds against salary, profits or other compensation. Contribution Limits
In Landmark Campaign Finance Ruling, Supreme Court Removes Limits on Corporate Campaign Spending
In a landmark decision, the Supreme Court rules corporations can spend unlimited amounts of money to elect and defeat candidates. One lawmaker describes it as the worst Supreme Court decision since the Dred Scott case justifying slavery. We speak with constitutional law professor, Jamin Raskin. [includes rush transcript]
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kami a écrit:
Premye kestyon-an eske se yon kestyon ou yon afimasyon? kisa ou vle konen, ki sa ou vle di an som?
Roseau,
I also have difficulties to understand your question, could you rephrase it for us?
Kami,
Savane Désolée est entre l'Estère et Gonaives, 15 mn en voiture pour etre plus précis.
On pourrait utiliser le port de Sedren.
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Colo,
You don't understand the word overrated?The verb rate means to be considered as worthy, of value.If I put the prefixe over in front of it ;the meaning should be clear.In other words: is the presidency a function that is overvalued in regard to its capability to transform a society;I don't think the word function is misued in this question.
Not long ago The Supreme Court of the United States decided not to limit the amount of contributions that a corporation can give to a politician's campaign;I am refering to the decision cited in the last paragraph of Kami's commentary.I remember President Obama was very critical of this ruling.He said:from now on the corporations will have more influences over certain politicians;was he wrong?We know how certain corporations hire many lobbysts to influence certains votes in the U.S.Congress.Thus my question;if a President, in a democracy, doesn't have the cooperation of the Congress. ,and the people who control the means of production of the economy can he implement his promises or his agenda?
I don't think anybody can doubt the will of President Obama to change the way the government functions;look at all the barriers that the republicans are putting in place to prevent him to be successful despite the fact that the democratic party has the majority in both chambers of Congress.I am afraid that Presidnet Obama will be a one term president because of the high rate of unemployement and the way the economy is performed. yet he has done all he can to improve the economic climate despite the fact that the economy was in a free fall even before he took the oath of office.
Look at all the presidents that we had in haiti during the two hundred years of independance ;not all of them were corrupt ,incompetent ignoramuses.Where are the benefits to the people ?an underdeveloped country that depens on foreign aid to survive;a country that can not even feed its people.Therefore I reiterate my question:Is the presidency an overrated function?
You don't understand the word overrated?The verb rate means to be considered as worthy, of value.If I put the prefixe over in front of it ;the meaning should be clear.In other words: is the presidency a function that is overvalued in regard to its capability to transform a society;I don't think the word function is misued in this question.
Not long ago The Supreme Court of the United States decided not to limit the amount of contributions that a corporation can give to a politician's campaign;I am refering to the decision cited in the last paragraph of Kami's commentary.I remember President Obama was very critical of this ruling.He said:from now on the corporations will have more influences over certain politicians;was he wrong?We know how certain corporations hire many lobbysts to influence certains votes in the U.S.Congress.Thus my question;if a President, in a democracy, doesn't have the cooperation of the Congress. ,and the people who control the means of production of the economy can he implement his promises or his agenda?
I don't think anybody can doubt the will of President Obama to change the way the government functions;look at all the barriers that the republicans are putting in place to prevent him to be successful despite the fact that the democratic party has the majority in both chambers of Congress.I am afraid that Presidnet Obama will be a one term president because of the high rate of unemployement and the way the economy is performed. yet he has done all he can to improve the economic climate despite the fact that the economy was in a free fall even before he took the oath of office.
Look at all the presidents that we had in haiti during the two hundred years of independance ;not all of them were corrupt ,incompetent ignoramuses.Where are the benefits to the people ?an underdeveloped country that depens on foreign aid to survive;a country that can not even feed its people.Therefore I reiterate my question:Is the presidency an overrated function?
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Maitre Roseau,
Wouyyyyyy! profeser a ap fe evaluasyon manb yo an angle ak franse. Sak pase ak promosyon lang kreyol lan?
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Wouyyyyyy! profeser a ap fe evaluasyon manb yo an angle ak franse. Sak pase ak promosyon lang kreyol lan?
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mwen ak Colo nou itilize lang nou vle.si nou itilize angle pa genyen mal paske genyen plis ayisyen ki pale angle jodya ke sak pale franseuuu.mwen te pose kestyon an angle paske li te genyen plis rapò ak sa ki ap pase o Zeta zuni jodya. Colo te mandem pou mwen te repose kestyon yon lot jan mwen mandel poukisa.
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