Obama, chanceux d’être Noir ?
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Obama, chanceux d’être Noir ?
Obama, chanceux d’être Noir ?
Au tour d’une alliée de Hillary Clinton d’y aller d’une déclaration controversée. Selon Geraldine Ferraro, ex-colistière de Walter Mondale, Barack Obama est chanceux d’être Noir. Je la cite dans le texte :
If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.
Au tour d’une alliée de Hillary Clinton d’y aller d’une déclaration controversée. Selon Geraldine Ferraro, ex-colistière de Walter Mondale, Barack Obama est chanceux d’être Noir. Je la cite dans le texte :
If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.
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I do not think that Obama's success can only be attributed to his color.He is a vey good speaker and a very intelligent politician who understands the opportunity of the moment and calibers his speeches to attract the different ethnics groups of the country.
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Des démarches sont en cours pour forcer le camp Clinton à sanctionner cette dame qui a tenu des propos inacceptables envers Obama.
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Ferraro défend son commentaire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOIwQSq9y8o
Geraldine Ferraro, alliée de Hillary Clinton, défend dans le clip ci-dessus son commentaire au sujet de Barack Obama, qui ne dominerait pas la course à l’investiture démocrate s’il était Blanc. Le sénateur de l’Illinois a qualifié ce commentaire de «manifestement absurde». Je le cite dans le texte :
“I don’t think that Geraldine Ferraro’s comments have any place in our politics or the Democratic Party. I think they were divisive.”
“I think that anybody who understands the history of this country knows they are patently absurd. I would expect that the same way those comments don’t have a place in my campaign, they shouldn’t have a place in Sen. Clinton’s.”
La sénatrice Clinton s’est dissociée des propos de l’ancienne candidate à la vice-présidence, alors que sa directrice de campagne, Maggie Williams, a accusé Obama d’exploiter le facteur racial en critiquant les propos de Ferraro.
P. S. : Ferraro en remet : «On m’attaque parce que je suis Blanche.»
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOIwQSq9y8o
Geraldine Ferraro, alliée de Hillary Clinton, défend dans le clip ci-dessus son commentaire au sujet de Barack Obama, qui ne dominerait pas la course à l’investiture démocrate s’il était Blanc. Le sénateur de l’Illinois a qualifié ce commentaire de «manifestement absurde». Je le cite dans le texte :
“I don’t think that Geraldine Ferraro’s comments have any place in our politics or the Democratic Party. I think they were divisive.”
“I think that anybody who understands the history of this country knows they are patently absurd. I would expect that the same way those comments don’t have a place in my campaign, they shouldn’t have a place in Sen. Clinton’s.”
La sénatrice Clinton s’est dissociée des propos de l’ancienne candidate à la vice-présidence, alors que sa directrice de campagne, Maggie Williams, a accusé Obama d’exploiter le facteur racial en critiquant les propos de Ferraro.
P. S. : Ferraro en remet : «On m’attaque parce que je suis Blanche.»
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C'est une tactique des Clinton. A l'approche du vote au Mississipi, on fait une telle declaration qui, on le sait, va polariser les votes. Ainsi, dans la Mississipi, la le racisme est a son point le plus eleve aux USA, on va avoir un clivage dans le vote: les noirs voteront en grand nombre pour Obama et les blancs pour Clinton.
On essaie ainsi de rentrer le facteur racial dans les primaires et ainsi presenter Obama (par la concentration des votes au Mississipi) comme le candidat des noirs et jouer sur le subconscient des blancs.
Obama doit rester au-dessus de la melee et ne pas se lancer entrainer dans ce piege qu'on lui tend. On voit deja que le clan Clinton au lieu de s'excuser, essaie de passer pour victime de cette question raciale.
On essaie ainsi de rentrer le facteur racial dans les primaires et ainsi presenter Obama (par la concentration des votes au Mississipi) comme le candidat des noirs et jouer sur le subconscient des blancs.
Obama doit rester au-dessus de la melee et ne pas se lancer entrainer dans ce piege qu'on lui tend. On voit deja que le clan Clinton au lieu de s'excuser, essaie de passer pour victime de cette question raciale.
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I do not understand Geraldine Ferraro's comment.Obama trounces Hillary in Mississipi,one of the red states, and a personn of Mrs Ferraro caliber wants to diminish Senator Obama's political abilty because he is black.Where are her sense of fairness and her honesty?
Senator Obama is not only winning in states where the blacks are in great number ;he is winning also in states where the majority of the people is white.How come Jesse jackson and Al Sharpton did not succeed in those states if the black color were such a tremendous asset?
The more I listen to these so called nothern liberals the more I understand Judge Clarence Thomas repudiation of their political paternalism and hypocrisy.
Senator Obama is not only winning in states where the blacks are in great number ;he is winning also in states where the majority of the people is white.How come Jesse jackson and Al Sharpton did not succeed in those states if the black color were such a tremendous asset?
The more I listen to these so called nothern liberals the more I understand Judge Clarence Thomas repudiation of their political paternalism and hypocrisy.
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I am not really surprised by this new tactic of the Clinton's camp.In my opinion they're like roaches :if they can not eat the whole cake they prefer to spoil it.
Even before Senator Obama's victories were putting Hillary's nomination in jeopardy ,Bill Clinton was promoting Senator Mac Cain's experience as the only criterion to choose him over Senator Obama.
I will bet the farm ,if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee ,the Clintons will vote for Senator Mac Cain in the general election.Hillary is already promoting Senator mac Cain when she said :"Senator Mac cain and I are the 2 candidates who can respond to the phone at 3:00 Am during a national crisis."
For Geraldine Ferraro to say that Mr Obama' succes in this campaign is due to his color is absurd and stupid; after that, to show her arrogance she said that her remark was cited out of context and that she is being blamed because she is white are absurd.She knows exactly what she was doing.This is the kind of paternalism that ignores the merits or the abilities of a black man or a black woman because if they reach a certain position is because of affirmative action.We had witnessed this kind of electronic lynching during the Clarence Thomas and Professor Anita Hill hearings.
I did not think that Hillary Clinton will throw that kind of low blows in order to win the nomination.it is really repugnant.
Even before Senator Obama's victories were putting Hillary's nomination in jeopardy ,Bill Clinton was promoting Senator Mac Cain's experience as the only criterion to choose him over Senator Obama.
I will bet the farm ,if Hillary Clinton is not the nominee ,the Clintons will vote for Senator Mac Cain in the general election.Hillary is already promoting Senator mac Cain when she said :"Senator Mac cain and I are the 2 candidates who can respond to the phone at 3:00 Am during a national crisis."
For Geraldine Ferraro to say that Mr Obama' succes in this campaign is due to his color is absurd and stupid; after that, to show her arrogance she said that her remark was cited out of context and that she is being blamed because she is white are absurd.She knows exactly what she was doing.This is the kind of paternalism that ignores the merits or the abilities of a black man or a black woman because if they reach a certain position is because of affirmative action.We had witnessed this kind of electronic lynching during the Clarence Thomas and Professor Anita Hill hearings.
I did not think that Hillary Clinton will throw that kind of low blows in order to win the nomination.it is really repugnant.
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Ainsi parla Keith Olbermann
L’animateur de l’émission Countdown de MSNBC Keith Olbermann a réservé ce soir un de ses commentaires spéciaux aux déclarations récentes de Geraldine Ferraro à propos de Barack Obama et à la réaction «suicidaire» de Hillary Clinton (voir la vidéo ci-dessus). Je cite un extrait dans le texte :
Senator, as it has reached its apex in their tone-deaf, arrogant, and insensitive reaction to the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro… your own advisors are slowly killing your chances to become President.
Senator, their words, and your own, are now slowly killing the chances for any Democrat to become President.
In your tepid response to this Ferraro disaster, you may sincerely think you are disenthralling an enchanted media, and righting an unfair advance bestowed on Senator Obama.
You may think the matter has closed with Representative Ferraro’s bitter, almost threatening resignation. But in fact, Senator, you are now campaigning, as if Barack Obama were the Democrat, and you… were the Republican.
As Shakespeare wrote, Senator — that way… madness… lies.
L’animateur de l’émission Countdown de MSNBC Keith Olbermann a réservé ce soir un de ses commentaires spéciaux aux déclarations récentes de Geraldine Ferraro à propos de Barack Obama et à la réaction «suicidaire» de Hillary Clinton (voir la vidéo ci-dessus). Je cite un extrait dans le texte :
Senator, as it has reached its apex in their tone-deaf, arrogant, and insensitive reaction to the remarks of Geraldine Ferraro… your own advisors are slowly killing your chances to become President.
Senator, their words, and your own, are now slowly killing the chances for any Democrat to become President.
In your tepid response to this Ferraro disaster, you may sincerely think you are disenthralling an enchanted media, and righting an unfair advance bestowed on Senator Obama.
You may think the matter has closed with Representative Ferraro’s bitter, almost threatening resignation. But in fact, Senator, you are now campaigning, as if Barack Obama were the Democrat, and you… were the Republican.
As Shakespeare wrote, Senator — that way… madness… lies.
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Did you watch Bill Maher tonight?He cited a passage of mrs Clinton's book in regard to her answer to the only emergency in her life when she learned that Bill was having an affair with Monica. To the question she said "I was gasping for her , I was crying "What about that for a person who pretends to be more experienced to answer the phone at 3:00 Am.
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Obama ne devrait-il pas penser à protéger le reste de sa famille vivant en Afrique?
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Lè youn moun ap analyse nonsans ke geraldine ferraro di ya ou rann ou kont genyen youn paket moun ou te kwè ki te genyen entèlijans men ki montre ke se yo ki pat merite plas ke yo tap konvwate yo.Sa sa vle di si Obama te blan li pa tap nan posityon li ye ya. kidonk blan pa janm rive reyini blan ak nwa nan youn kanpay presidantyel ;ki sa li fè de devotyon nwa pou John kennedy,Bobby kennedy ,pou Bill Clinton pou tout lot blan ke nwa konn vote an mass pou yo.petet si Obama te blan,Hillary pa tap menm rive genyen kantite delegue sa yo paske Obama ak talan li tap deja genyen nominatyon an.Ki jan fè John kennnedy te bat Richard Nixon.
Si Obama ki se youn pov konparativman a Clinton yo ka ranmasse tout lajan saa poul fè youn kanpay osi an form e byen se geraldine ferraro selman ki pa ka wè pase li aveg kom RASIS IPOKRIT se talan Obama ki mete li nan posityon saa.
Si Obama ki se youn pov konparativman a Clinton yo ka ranmasse tout lajan saa poul fè youn kanpay osi an form e byen se geraldine ferraro selman ki pa ka wè pase li aveg kom RASIS IPOKRIT se talan Obama ki mete li nan posityon saa.
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Men fanm saa tèlman egri kont nèg ke la p pase yo lan kk.
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Sak fè se nèg ki toujou dèyè kamyonèt la lan peyi saa?
Poukisa yo paka jwenn pibon job lan peyi saa e lè yo jwenn yon job, yo peye yo mwens lajan ke blan kap fè menm travay la.
Poukisa nèg se yon minorite lan popilasyon saa e yo se majorite lan prizon?
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Depi kilè yon nèg Ozetazini gen avantaj paske li se nèg?
Sak fè se nèg ki toujou dèyè kamyonèt la lan peyi saa?
Poukisa yo paka jwenn pibon job lan peyi saa e lè yo jwenn yon job, yo peye yo mwens lajan ke blan kap fè menm travay la.
Poukisa nèg se yon minorite lan popilasyon saa e yo se majorite lan prizon?
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men se youn oxymoron pou nan eta peyi eta zuni ye jodya pou youn moun di ke youn neg chanse paske li nwa.kelke swa kontex ke geraldine ferraro di bagay saa li se youn non sans.Obama chanse paske pep ameriken yan vle youn Presidan nwa koulyè ya alò se sak fè Obama ap make pwen konsa?Gen lè Geraldine Ferraro pèdi la kat?Ou byen ,li vinn antatad.
poukisa li pa ka wè se talan Obama e messaj de chanjman ke li ap prone ki fè anpil moun entelijan ki genyen bon sans apwouve sa li ap di yo.Si Obama reyisi kote Senatè tankou John edwards , Dodd et tout lot ki abandone kanpay la se pa paske li nwa se paske li konn kominike byen e li pwopose chanjman ke anpil moun ap chache depi lontan se paske pep la bouke ak politik "as usual" la.
Mwen tou mwen te doute de kapasite Obama pou li te atire tout blan sa yo nan kan li men rezilta kanpay lan so far montre ke dout mwen yan pat pran an konsideratyon evolutyon ki fet nan peyi ya.mwen pa di ke li ap eli men jan mwen te di ke kandidati li ya se youn eksersis an futilite ,mwen rekonet se pa vre,e Obama menm si li pa reyisi koulyè ya si li travay nan Sena pou fè vote bon jan lwa e byen li ka reparet ankò.Tankou nou di nan kreyol nou an :"premye so pa so."Menm si Obama tonbe se pou li leve kanpe e pou li kontinye lite pou ide li yo.
poukisa li pa ka wè se talan Obama e messaj de chanjman ke li ap prone ki fè anpil moun entelijan ki genyen bon sans apwouve sa li ap di yo.Si Obama reyisi kote Senatè tankou John edwards , Dodd et tout lot ki abandone kanpay la se pa paske li nwa se paske li konn kominike byen e li pwopose chanjman ke anpil moun ap chache depi lontan se paske pep la bouke ak politik "as usual" la.
Mwen tou mwen te doute de kapasite Obama pou li te atire tout blan sa yo nan kan li men rezilta kanpay lan so far montre ke dout mwen yan pat pran an konsideratyon evolutyon ki fet nan peyi ya.mwen pa di ke li ap eli men jan mwen te di ke kandidati li ya se youn eksersis an futilite ,mwen rekonet se pa vre,e Obama menm si li pa reyisi koulyè ya si li travay nan Sena pou fè vote bon jan lwa e byen li ka reparet ankò.Tankou nou di nan kreyol nou an :"premye so pa so."Menm si Obama tonbe se pou li leve kanpe e pou li kontinye lite pou ide li yo.
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