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Vendredi, 23 mars 2007 14:16
Amnisty International dénonce les violations des droits des haïtiens en République Dominicaine
Dans un document titré "la république Dominicaine viole les droits fondamentaux des haïtiens", Amnisty International critique le comportement des autorités dominicaines qui ne respectent pas les droits des migrants haïtiens. Selon le document, les migrants et migrantes haïtiens, sont victimes de discrimination par rapport à l’origine ethnique, la nationalité et la langue.
Entre 20 000 et 30 000 Haïtiens sont expulsés de la République Dominicaine, chaque année, rappelle Amnisty International, et dans la plupart des cas, ces expulsions se font en dehors de tout cadre juridique. Amnisty précise que des dominicains au teint foncé sont également arrêtés et conduits à la frontière, parce qu’ils sont pris pour des Haïtiens.
Environ 500 000 haïtiens vivent en République Dominicaine, où ils travaillent essentiellement dans les secteurs de la construction et de l’agriculture.
Dans le communiqué Amnisty International rappelle que les autorités dominicaines refusent de délivrer des certificats de naissance aux enfants des descendants d’haïtiens. Sans le certificat de naissance, ces enfants ne peuvent avoir accès aux écoles et ne pourront réclamer la nationalité dominicaine à l’age de 18 ans souligne Amnisty International.
Les parents de ces enfants qui sont sans papier ne peuvent avoir accès au marché du travail, voter ou inscrire leurs enfants à un établissement scolaire selon Amnisty précisant que cette situation a créé des milliers d’apatrides, et perpétue le cycle de violation des droits de la personne.
Notons que les présidents haïtiens René Préval et dominicain, Leonel Fernandez avaient, la semaine dernière, signé un accord pour la réactivation de la commission mixte haitiano-dominicaine chargée de traiter les questions migratoires et commerciales. Lors de sa visite le chef de l’état avait appelé au renforcement de la coopération entre les deux pays.
Plusieurs organisations de défense des droits humains dont le Groupe d’Appui aux Réfugiés et Rapatriés (GARR) avaient dénoncé les conditions de rapatriement des immigrants illégaux haïtiens par les autorités dominicaines.
Amnisty International dénonce les violations des droits des haïtiens en République Dominicaine
Dans un document titré "la république Dominicaine viole les droits fondamentaux des haïtiens", Amnisty International critique le comportement des autorités dominicaines qui ne respectent pas les droits des migrants haïtiens. Selon le document, les migrants et migrantes haïtiens, sont victimes de discrimination par rapport à l’origine ethnique, la nationalité et la langue.
Entre 20 000 et 30 000 Haïtiens sont expulsés de la République Dominicaine, chaque année, rappelle Amnisty International, et dans la plupart des cas, ces expulsions se font en dehors de tout cadre juridique. Amnisty précise que des dominicains au teint foncé sont également arrêtés et conduits à la frontière, parce qu’ils sont pris pour des Haïtiens.
Environ 500 000 haïtiens vivent en République Dominicaine, où ils travaillent essentiellement dans les secteurs de la construction et de l’agriculture.
Dans le communiqué Amnisty International rappelle que les autorités dominicaines refusent de délivrer des certificats de naissance aux enfants des descendants d’haïtiens. Sans le certificat de naissance, ces enfants ne peuvent avoir accès aux écoles et ne pourront réclamer la nationalité dominicaine à l’age de 18 ans souligne Amnisty International.
Les parents de ces enfants qui sont sans papier ne peuvent avoir accès au marché du travail, voter ou inscrire leurs enfants à un établissement scolaire selon Amnisty précisant que cette situation a créé des milliers d’apatrides, et perpétue le cycle de violation des droits de la personne.
Notons que les présidents haïtiens René Préval et dominicain, Leonel Fernandez avaient, la semaine dernière, signé un accord pour la réactivation de la commission mixte haitiano-dominicaine chargée de traiter les questions migratoires et commerciales. Lors de sa visite le chef de l’état avait appelé au renforcement de la coopération entre les deux pays.
Plusieurs organisations de défense des droits humains dont le Groupe d’Appui aux Réfugiés et Rapatriés (GARR) avaient dénoncé les conditions de rapatriement des immigrants illégaux haïtiens par les autorités dominicaines.
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Yo pito bouché nen yo pou yo bwè dlo santi menm si genyen yon vè nan dlo a.Menachem Beginn te di yon bagay ke mwen toujou sonje li di genyen bagay nan la vi ki pi shè ke la vi menm.se pa pou ayisyen ;yo di yo pito led yo la.fok nou pa plenyen lè dominiken pa respekte nou ;yo meprise nou.Sa ayisyen ap fè an dominikani?Konbyen fwa pou yo krashe nan figi yo anvan pou yo konnen se pa kote pou yo ale.Sa etidyan ayisyen ki konn listwa peyi ya ap fè al etidye an dominikani ,poukisa yo pa ale Venezuela ou byen kiba.
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San Malis, mwen kwè ke nou pa kapab ap gade sa kap pase an Dominikani epi nou fè kom si nou pa wè.
Nou pa kapab mande Ayisyien ki deja la, pou yo tounen tout swit en Ayiti. Se pa pratik. Men se pou nou sansibilize Ayisyen pou pesonn pa al an Dominikani, kelke swa rezon an.
Nou kapab fè presyion sou gouvènman Ayisyien an pou li mande Fènandez ak moun li yo DE KI PREVYEN. E si yo pa chanje sa kap pase a nou ka depote Dominiken en Ayiti yo tou. Se pou nou ranmase karakte n. Nou pa bezwen Dominiken. Yo pi bezwen travayè nou yo pou ekonomi yo mache.
Poukisa se etranje tankou Amnesti entenasyional, OEA epi depatman d'eta Meriken ki ap denonse move tretman Ayisyien ap sibi lan peyi saa.
E noumenm? kisa nou ka fè?
Pou komense nou ka boykote pwodui Dominiken an Ayiti e lan lot peyi tou. Ayisyen lan Florid, pa ashte kasav e lot bagay Dominiken vann.
Pa al vizite ni al an vakans lan peyi saa.
Chak dola ki rantre lan peyi saa fè yo vinn pi frekan ak Ayisyien.
Nou pa kapab mande Ayisyien ki deja la, pou yo tounen tout swit en Ayiti. Se pa pratik. Men se pou nou sansibilize Ayisyen pou pesonn pa al an Dominikani, kelke swa rezon an.
Nou kapab fè presyion sou gouvènman Ayisyien an pou li mande Fènandez ak moun li yo DE KI PREVYEN. E si yo pa chanje sa kap pase a nou ka depote Dominiken en Ayiti yo tou. Se pou nou ranmase karakte n. Nou pa bezwen Dominiken. Yo pi bezwen travayè nou yo pou ekonomi yo mache.
Poukisa se etranje tankou Amnesti entenasyional, OEA epi depatman d'eta Meriken ki ap denonse move tretman Ayisyien ap sibi lan peyi saa.
E noumenm? kisa nou ka fè?
Pou komense nou ka boykote pwodui Dominiken an Ayiti e lan lot peyi tou. Ayisyen lan Florid, pa ashte kasav e lot bagay Dominiken vann.
Pa al vizite ni al an vakans lan peyi saa.
Chak dola ki rantre lan peyi saa fè yo vinn pi frekan ak Ayisyien.
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Se pa nou ki ap mande yo pou yo tounen tout swit se dominiken ki ap pake yo tankou zannimo voye yo tounnen.E la anko fok mwen di se yon dwa yo genyen pou refoule moun ki lakay yo ilegal paske la tè divise an peyi .Fok nou di tou ke dominiken pa rete an ayiti definitivman ,mwen pa konnen pou koulyè ya.Yo vinn vann sa yo genyen pou vann epi yo al pote lajan an lakay yo.Mwen pa kwè dominiken tap tann nou depote yo pou yo te retounen lakay yo.
Mwen pa kondane ayisyen ki san sekou ki o zabwa ki pito al fè esklav an dominikani o lye ke yo rete nan lanfer ke ayisyen fè ayiti tounnen pou pwop frè ak sè yo, se mal pou wont, sankoutya ki malgre yap krashe nan figi yo chak jou e ki a pral pase vakans an dominikani ou byen ki nan tete lang ak Fernandez.Ki pral etidye an dominikani epi apre yap rele di yo ap depote yo.Se lelit repiyan ki pa genyen oken plan pou peyisan ayisyen travay la tè lakay yo.Ki jan fè yo jwen travay an dominikani ,Nassau ki yon ti gwoup zile,Martinique, guadelopup, St martin etc epi yo pa ka rete lakay yo pou yo pwodwi manje, travay nan konstruktyon pou bati site, lekol, lopital, dispansè tout kote nan peyi ya.?
Yo pap janm ka rete pase mazet apranti pale mentè nou yo pa wè yo nan gwo liv la.Yo pito ap peye prim pou parese ki ap grate santi nan anbasad yo, fè apranti palmantè ap kouri machinn tou nef ak chofè san yo pa menm vinn travay.Yo pito ap gonfle administratyon piblik de sineki, de Premye minis ,de minis de la kondition maskilinn, de la kondityon femininn , epi ou genyen yon depatman afè sosyal, ou genyen yon depatman de la sante et de la population.Men yo pito ap mande pou yo boukle yon bidjè ke gouvenman an selman pran tout lajan ,nanpren yon nan yo ki ap chita pou di sa pa fè sans nou pa kapab ap mande etranje charite pou nou boukle bidjè peyi ya an nou redwi depans yo konsa na jwen lajan pou nou envesti nan pwojè ki pou soulaje misè pep la.
Se pa dominiken non map blame se sankoutya lakay nou yo ki san pidè , san wont.san santiman.ki pito vann ayisyen tankou esklav pou yo fè gwo lajan nan anboshaj ,Se moun sayo ke pou pep ayisyen fè yon revolityon pou se yon lot gwoup ayisyen ki pou dirije peyi ya anvan ayisyen a bouke al fè yo imilye yo an dominikani.Tou tan se ti apranti ,ti mazet ki pa konn abc nan administratyon piblik ki ap dirije ayiti e byen dominiken pap janm respekte ayisyen,yo pa konn respekte esklav, si esklav yo akspete yo bat ,imilye yo tou tan.Si w beswen moun respekte w se pou respekte tet ou dabo.Si yon moun di w li pa vle ke ou vinn lakay li epi malgre sa ou ale lakay li e byen ou pa ka plenyen sil voye yon bokit pise nan figi w.
Mwen pa kondane ayisyen ki san sekou ki o zabwa ki pito al fè esklav an dominikani o lye ke yo rete nan lanfer ke ayisyen fè ayiti tounnen pou pwop frè ak sè yo, se mal pou wont, sankoutya ki malgre yap krashe nan figi yo chak jou e ki a pral pase vakans an dominikani ou byen ki nan tete lang ak Fernandez.Ki pral etidye an dominikani epi apre yap rele di yo ap depote yo.Se lelit repiyan ki pa genyen oken plan pou peyisan ayisyen travay la tè lakay yo.Ki jan fè yo jwen travay an dominikani ,Nassau ki yon ti gwoup zile,Martinique, guadelopup, St martin etc epi yo pa ka rete lakay yo pou yo pwodwi manje, travay nan konstruktyon pou bati site, lekol, lopital, dispansè tout kote nan peyi ya.?
Yo pap janm ka rete pase mazet apranti pale mentè nou yo pa wè yo nan gwo liv la.Yo pito ap peye prim pou parese ki ap grate santi nan anbasad yo, fè apranti palmantè ap kouri machinn tou nef ak chofè san yo pa menm vinn travay.Yo pito ap gonfle administratyon piblik de sineki, de Premye minis ,de minis de la kondition maskilinn, de la kondityon femininn , epi ou genyen yon depatman afè sosyal, ou genyen yon depatman de la sante et de la population.Men yo pito ap mande pou yo boukle yon bidjè ke gouvenman an selman pran tout lajan ,nanpren yon nan yo ki ap chita pou di sa pa fè sans nou pa kapab ap mande etranje charite pou nou boukle bidjè peyi ya an nou redwi depans yo konsa na jwen lajan pou nou envesti nan pwojè ki pou soulaje misè pep la.
Se pa dominiken non map blame se sankoutya lakay nou yo ki san pidè , san wont.san santiman.ki pito vann ayisyen tankou esklav pou yo fè gwo lajan nan anboshaj ,Se moun sayo ke pou pep ayisyen fè yon revolityon pou se yon lot gwoup ayisyen ki pou dirije peyi ya anvan ayisyen a bouke al fè yo imilye yo an dominikani.Tou tan se ti apranti ,ti mazet ki pa konn abc nan administratyon piblik ki ap dirije ayiti e byen dominiken pap janm respekte ayisyen,yo pa konn respekte esklav, si esklav yo akspete yo bat ,imilye yo tou tan.Si w beswen moun respekte w se pou respekte tet ou dabo.Si yon moun di w li pa vle ke ou vinn lakay li epi malgre sa ou ale lakay li e byen ou pa ka plenyen sil voye yon bokit pise nan figi w.
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Une étude dominicaine suggère que des Haïtiens seraient responsables de la résurgence d'un ensemble de maladies en République dominicaine --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Santo-domingo, le 21 mars 2007 (AHP)-
Une étude préparée par le conseil national dominicain des frontières et présentée mercredi à Santo-Domingo, suggère qu'en raison de l'absence de conditions sanitaires adéquates en Haïti, les dominicains courent de graves risques de contracter des maladies endémiques ncontrôlées en Haïti.
L'étude baptisée "politique de contrôle sanitaire sur les humains, les animaux et les végétaux", cite au nombre de ces maladies le sida, la tuberculose, la lèpre et la rage humaine.
Selon ladite étude, la population dominicaine souffre aujourd'hui d'un ensemble de maladies qui auraient dejà été éradiquées.
Elle cite entre autres "la filariose qui affecterait 30% de la population haïtienne et la malaria qui n'existait presque pas dans les provinces de Bahoruco et d'Independencia, mais qui se propage aujourd'hui à Samana, Moca, Santo-Domingo et dans les pôles touristiques".
L'enquête recomande aux autorités sanitaires dominicaine de se tenir en alerte et de renforcer les contrôles à la frontière afin d'empêcher l'entrée au pays de gens contaminés.
AHP 22 mars 2007 12:40 PM
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Sa m ta di lan sa?
Eske se Ayisyen sèlman ki voyaje ale en Dominikani?
Tout peyi a se yon Bordèl li ye, paske touris soti lan tout lot peyi pou yo al couche ak fanm ak gason Dominiken. Tourism Dominiken avan tout se yon tourism seksuel.
Yo gen repitasyion kote fanm bon mache, e yo jwenn yo lan tout lari ak hotel St Domingue, Puerto Plata e tout rezo touristik yo.
Nenpot chofè taxi kapab fè yo jwenn sa yo vle.
Gen menm piyay la pou masisi ki soti sitou an Almay.
Se pou yo chèche sida lan activite sa yo tou.
Kom mwen di n deja, menm jan Dominiken voye fanm yo, pitit fi yo, manman yo vinn fè bouzen en Ayiti, yo voye yo anpil lot kote, tankou: Hollande, Almay, Curaçao, Costa Rica, Panama.
Lè moun sa yo retounen lakay yo, yo pa pote maladi?
Se Ayisyen sèlman ki kontamine?
Mwen di ke yo gen dwa pwoteje popilasyon yo kont maladi, men yo pa dwe fout sèvi ak sa pou ranfose kanpay anti-Ayisyenn yo a.
Santo-domingo, le 21 mars 2007 (AHP)-
Une étude préparée par le conseil national dominicain des frontières et présentée mercredi à Santo-Domingo, suggère qu'en raison de l'absence de conditions sanitaires adéquates en Haïti, les dominicains courent de graves risques de contracter des maladies endémiques ncontrôlées en Haïti.
L'étude baptisée "politique de contrôle sanitaire sur les humains, les animaux et les végétaux", cite au nombre de ces maladies le sida, la tuberculose, la lèpre et la rage humaine.
Selon ladite étude, la population dominicaine souffre aujourd'hui d'un ensemble de maladies qui auraient dejà été éradiquées.
Elle cite entre autres "la filariose qui affecterait 30% de la population haïtienne et la malaria qui n'existait presque pas dans les provinces de Bahoruco et d'Independencia, mais qui se propage aujourd'hui à Samana, Moca, Santo-Domingo et dans les pôles touristiques".
L'enquête recomande aux autorités sanitaires dominicaine de se tenir en alerte et de renforcer les contrôles à la frontière afin d'empêcher l'entrée au pays de gens contaminés.
AHP 22 mars 2007 12:40 PM
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Sa m ta di lan sa?
Eske se Ayisyen sèlman ki voyaje ale en Dominikani?
Tout peyi a se yon Bordèl li ye, paske touris soti lan tout lot peyi pou yo al couche ak fanm ak gason Dominiken. Tourism Dominiken avan tout se yon tourism seksuel.
Yo gen repitasyion kote fanm bon mache, e yo jwenn yo lan tout lari ak hotel St Domingue, Puerto Plata e tout rezo touristik yo.
Nenpot chofè taxi kapab fè yo jwenn sa yo vle.
Gen menm piyay la pou masisi ki soti sitou an Almay.
Se pou yo chèche sida lan activite sa yo tou.
Kom mwen di n deja, menm jan Dominiken voye fanm yo, pitit fi yo, manman yo vinn fè bouzen en Ayiti, yo voye yo anpil lot kote, tankou: Hollande, Almay, Curaçao, Costa Rica, Panama.
Lè moun sa yo retounen lakay yo, yo pa pote maladi?
Se Ayisyen sèlman ki kontamine?
Mwen di ke yo gen dwa pwoteje popilasyon yo kont maladi, men yo pa dwe fout sèvi ak sa pou ranfose kanpay anti-Ayisyenn yo a.
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Poursuite de la campagne anti-Haitienne en Dominicanie.
Pour votre information, Jean Michel Caroit est aussi le correspondant de Radio Metropole, en Dominicanie. Hummm !!!
Ce sujet ne suscite pas beaucoup de reactions, alors qu'il devrait etre considere comme la source ou l'ebauche d'un complot contre notre pays.
Ils sont en train de classer Haiti comme une crise internationale et ainsi preparer le terrain pour un controle plus serre de notre pays.
Local - Dominican Today
March, 26 - 2:01 PM
Dominican defense against Haitian allegations is weak, experts say.
SANTO DOMINGO.- The deputy Pelegrín Castillo and the French journalist Jean Michel Caroit
agreed yesterday in affirming that Dominican Republic has not assumed a correct defense
against the groups of human rights who "unjustly" accuse it of practicing xenophobia
and racism against the Haitians resident here.
Both agreed, in addition, that in the same measure that those types of accusations against
the country have increased internationally, the common border is increasingly vulnerable to
the traffic of undocumented Haitians.
They criticized that the country has not implemented a new Immigration Law and the
absence of a repatriations policy with the international agreements that it has signed in
that regard, with which it could confront the organisms and the international community with a
greater weight.
However, they marked his differences as to the reasons behind the information such as the one
by Amnesty International, because while Caroit states that it doesn’t obey to a campaign of
disrepute against the country, Castillo said that they are based on a perspective of
“reductionism, false and superficial which in objective terms lends itself to the
machinations and manipulations of other interests, other agendas."
Castillo said that the country’s defensive attitude is unacceptable because “if there is a
country which is being victimized from an international crisis it’s Dominican Republic."
Caroit, Caribbean correspondent of the French newspaper Le Monde, interviewed by Manuel
Jiménez on Channel 27, feels that that report in fact doesn’t involve an accusation against
the Dominican Republic, instead a focus on the situation of the Haitians in the country,
regarding repatriations and the problem of the children of Haitians born in the country who
don’t have legal existence.
"I believe that the Dominican Republic doesn’t know how to defend itself and I also believe
that those human rights organizations unjustly accuse this country of racial discrimination.
How he can have racial discrimination in this country that is probably the world’s most
mulatto," the French journalist said.
Castillo again criticized the fact that great powers like United States, France and Canada
have been irresponsible with Haiti and that instead of contributing to rebuild the
neighboring country they try to use the Dominican Republic as a "pivot State" for a
solution to those problems.
The official warned that Haiti has become an "insolvent State" and suffers from the entire
hemisphere’s most serious problems ranging from an ecological disaster to being controlled
by the international underworld.
He added that the Haitian case isn’t merely humanitarian problem, "but an international
crisis.”
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Examples de commentaires de citoyens Dominicains qui vont dans le meme sens.
Written by Chugo Javez
Santo Domingo, 2:20 PM
"I believe
that the Dominican Republic doesn’t know
how to defend itself and I also believe that
those human rights organizations unjustly accuse this country of racial discrimination. How he can have racial discrimination in this country that is probably the world’s most mulatto," the French
journalist said.
Spoken like
a true foreigner with little knowledge of Dominican culture. His characterization of Dominican demographics is accurate but he doesn't realize that few Dominicans agree.
Written by Ignacio A. Livent
Bronx, New York, 6:59 PM
Every Dominican should defend the country's reputation. We must tell the truth about our society. To those who speak of slavery and
apartheid in our country, they are telling you that they do not know what those two aberration of human history was as an inhumane political system.
There is class discrimination in DR. There is also, racial discrimination in DR. What you do not have is a government policy of racial and class discrimination. Guess what? That is also what you have in the U.S.
Written by nico
., 7:11 PM
The Dominican Republic's defence of its national interests in general is weak. No real nation should let a foreign force or organization dictate them. The DR needs leadership. I hope that
Pelegrin Castillo becomes president one day, he has what it takes.
Pour votre information, Jean Michel Caroit est aussi le correspondant de Radio Metropole, en Dominicanie. Hummm !!!
Ce sujet ne suscite pas beaucoup de reactions, alors qu'il devrait etre considere comme la source ou l'ebauche d'un complot contre notre pays.
Ils sont en train de classer Haiti comme une crise internationale et ainsi preparer le terrain pour un controle plus serre de notre pays.
Local - Dominican Today
March, 26 - 2:01 PM
Dominican defense against Haitian allegations is weak, experts say.
SANTO DOMINGO.- The deputy Pelegrín Castillo and the French journalist Jean Michel Caroit
agreed yesterday in affirming that Dominican Republic has not assumed a correct defense
against the groups of human rights who "unjustly" accuse it of practicing xenophobia
and racism against the Haitians resident here.
Both agreed, in addition, that in the same measure that those types of accusations against
the country have increased internationally, the common border is increasingly vulnerable to
the traffic of undocumented Haitians.
They criticized that the country has not implemented a new Immigration Law and the
absence of a repatriations policy with the international agreements that it has signed in
that regard, with which it could confront the organisms and the international community with a
greater weight.
However, they marked his differences as to the reasons behind the information such as the one
by Amnesty International, because while Caroit states that it doesn’t obey to a campaign of
disrepute against the country, Castillo said that they are based on a perspective of
“reductionism, false and superficial which in objective terms lends itself to the
machinations and manipulations of other interests, other agendas."
Castillo said that the country’s defensive attitude is unacceptable because “if there is a
country which is being victimized from an international crisis it’s Dominican Republic."
Caroit, Caribbean correspondent of the French newspaper Le Monde, interviewed by Manuel
Jiménez on Channel 27, feels that that report in fact doesn’t involve an accusation against
the Dominican Republic, instead a focus on the situation of the Haitians in the country,
regarding repatriations and the problem of the children of Haitians born in the country who
don’t have legal existence.
"I believe that the Dominican Republic doesn’t know how to defend itself and I also believe
that those human rights organizations unjustly accuse this country of racial discrimination.
How he can have racial discrimination in this country that is probably the world’s most
mulatto," the French journalist said.
Castillo again criticized the fact that great powers like United States, France and Canada
have been irresponsible with Haiti and that instead of contributing to rebuild the
neighboring country they try to use the Dominican Republic as a "pivot State" for a
solution to those problems.
The official warned that Haiti has become an "insolvent State" and suffers from the entire
hemisphere’s most serious problems ranging from an ecological disaster to being controlled
by the international underworld.
He added that the Haitian case isn’t merely humanitarian problem, "but an international
crisis.”
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Examples de commentaires de citoyens Dominicains qui vont dans le meme sens.
Written by Chugo Javez
Santo Domingo, 2:20 PM
"I believe
that the Dominican Republic doesn’t know
how to defend itself and I also believe that
those human rights organizations unjustly accuse this country of racial discrimination. How he can have racial discrimination in this country that is probably the world’s most mulatto," the French
journalist said.
Spoken like
a true foreigner with little knowledge of Dominican culture. His characterization of Dominican demographics is accurate but he doesn't realize that few Dominicans agree.
Written by Ignacio A. Livent
Bronx, New York, 6:59 PM
Every Dominican should defend the country's reputation. We must tell the truth about our society. To those who speak of slavery and
apartheid in our country, they are telling you that they do not know what those two aberration of human history was as an inhumane political system.
There is class discrimination in DR. There is also, racial discrimination in DR. What you do not have is a government policy of racial and class discrimination. Guess what? That is also what you have in the U.S.
Written by nico
., 7:11 PM
The Dominican Republic's defence of its national interests in general is weak. No real nation should let a foreign force or organization dictate them. The DR needs leadership. I hope that
Pelegrin Castillo becomes president one day, he has what it takes.
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Date d'inscription : 02/03/2007
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
mwen se lan mè mwen pa ka sere krass. Se vre ke dominiken pa renmen ayisyen men tou nou pa ka kondane yo net.paske si frè ak sè w pa renmen ou pa ka mande etranje pou yo renmen w.Wi yo te dwe genyen plis charité anver pov yo ii ap chache pen kotidyen yo ke yo pa ka jwen lakay yo ,men lè yon moun ap tande kombyen ayisyen ki ap soufri ak sida ak tiiberkilos epi yon gouvenman ap ashte machinn pou depite bay anbasadè bonus epi se yon sel lopital ki genyen nan peyi pou trete tiberkile yo eske ayisyen yo pa sanse yon risk vre pou tout rejyon an ?Nou ka mande poukisa yo te vinn chache peyisan yo pou koupe kann lakay yo,eske yo pat konen ke anpil an yo pa tap vle retounen depi yon jwen m oyen pou yo travay la nou genyen reson ,men mwen mete m nan plas dominiken yo tou.Vye pwopagann ki te fet kont ayisyen konsernan se yo ki ap pwopaje sida a ka enfliyanse jijman anpil dominiken iyoran.Kom dabitid prejije se nan iyorans li pran rasinn li.Kom mwen di si w vle moun respekte se wou ki pou fè respè tet ou dabor
Dominiken pap jan m wè ke anpil nan yo ilegal o Zeta zuni e Porto Rico. o pwen genyen anpil Porto ricain tou ki pa vle wè dominiken ,mwen te genyen yon vwasen mwen nan bronx byen ke madanm li se dominkenn men Porto Ricain sa pa vle wè dominiken li di yo se volè.Yon jou mwen mande l eske madanm li se volè ;li move.Li dim mwen pa konnen sa Portoriken ap pase anba dominiken Porto Rico.Se tout moun ki ap plenyen pou kont imigran ilegal yo.Se pa fot yo se pè yo pè pou ayisyen yo pa vinn retire job nan men yo ou byen pou lot rezon.
kom dominiken yan di ya genyen prejije de klass e de koulè o Zeta zuni vre e genyen l menm an ayiti.Eske ayisyen pat konn ba moun ki fet andeyo yon batistè ki di ke yo se peyisan.Si dominiken ap meprise ayisyen jodya se lelit ayisyen iresponsab la ki lakoz sa.Si yo pa okipe yo de sor peyisan ki menm lakay yo an ayiti yo maltrete yo yo ap viv tankou zannimo yo pa ka repwoshe dominiken si yo pa trete ayisyen byen se yo ki te konn vann ayisyen pou yo al koupe kann an dominikani.Epi tou fok ayisyen genyen nen nan figi yo.Se pou yo rete lakay yo pou yo lite pou genyen yon chanjman radikal nan peyi dayiti.Yon moun a di ke mwen mal plase pou m pale konsa e li ap genyen rezon .men li te rive yon moman mwen pat ka sipote anko. mwen te reyalise tankou doktè Silvernale yon doktè ameriken ki te la gonave te di mwen pati se pa solityon an .Si nou tout leve pati ki les ki ap fè chanjman ke peyi ya beswen.mwen ka te manke kouraj poum gade piti mwen ki te ap pral soufri menm jan ak mwen ;se pousa mwen toujou konseye jenn gason ak jenn fi anvan nou pran responsabilite mete moun sou tè a fok nou konnen byen nou ka pran responsabilite yo.paske kote ou ka soufri pou kont ou men lè wap gade pitit ou ki ap kriye pase manman yo pa monte shodyè se bagay ki ka fè w perdi tet ou.se kouri wan vi leve kouri pou pa wè ti moun sa ki pat mande w pou fè li e ki ap soufri a koz de wou.
Dominiken pap jan m wè ke anpil nan yo ilegal o Zeta zuni e Porto Rico. o pwen genyen anpil Porto ricain tou ki pa vle wè dominiken ,mwen te genyen yon vwasen mwen nan bronx byen ke madanm li se dominkenn men Porto Ricain sa pa vle wè dominiken li di yo se volè.Yon jou mwen mande l eske madanm li se volè ;li move.Li dim mwen pa konnen sa Portoriken ap pase anba dominiken Porto Rico.Se tout moun ki ap plenyen pou kont imigran ilegal yo.Se pa fot yo se pè yo pè pou ayisyen yo pa vinn retire job nan men yo ou byen pou lot rezon.
kom dominiken yan di ya genyen prejije de klass e de koulè o Zeta zuni vre e genyen l menm an ayiti.Eske ayisyen pat konn ba moun ki fet andeyo yon batistè ki di ke yo se peyisan.Si dominiken ap meprise ayisyen jodya se lelit ayisyen iresponsab la ki lakoz sa.Si yo pa okipe yo de sor peyisan ki menm lakay yo an ayiti yo maltrete yo yo ap viv tankou zannimo yo pa ka repwoshe dominiken si yo pa trete ayisyen byen se yo ki te konn vann ayisyen pou yo al koupe kann an dominikani.Epi tou fok ayisyen genyen nen nan figi yo.Se pou yo rete lakay yo pou yo lite pou genyen yon chanjman radikal nan peyi dayiti.Yon moun a di ke mwen mal plase pou m pale konsa e li ap genyen rezon .men li te rive yon moman mwen pat ka sipote anko. mwen te reyalise tankou doktè Silvernale yon doktè ameriken ki te la gonave te di mwen pati se pa solityon an .Si nou tout leve pati ki les ki ap fè chanjman ke peyi ya beswen.mwen ka te manke kouraj poum gade piti mwen ki te ap pral soufri menm jan ak mwen ;se pousa mwen toujou konseye jenn gason ak jenn fi anvan nou pran responsabilite mete moun sou tè a fok nou konnen byen nou ka pran responsabilite yo.paske kote ou ka soufri pou kont ou men lè wap gade pitit ou ki ap kriye pase manman yo pa monte shodyè se bagay ki ka fè w perdi tet ou.se kouri wan vi leve kouri pou pa wè ti moun sa ki pat mande w pou fè li e ki ap soufri a koz de wou.
Rodlam Sans Malice- Super Star
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Mwen kondane Dominiken nèt, pou move tretman yo bay Ayisyen.
Lan pwen okenn ekskiz ke Ayisyen parèy yo maltrete yo tou.
Se pa charite moun ap mande, se dwa tout pèp ki fèt pou respekte tout kote.
Mem jan mwen kondane politik meriken kont ayisyen.
Men lè w gade byen, Dominikani al pi lwen pase tout lot peyi: paske yo gen yon pwoblem idantite kap kraze yo.
Ayisyen gen pwoblèm lan tout peyi: Amerik di No, Antyi, Guiyann, Erop. Men sak ap pase an Dominikani pi mal.
Gouvenman ayisyen avèk tout Ayisyen pa denonse bagay sa yo ase. Lot moun: Amnisty intènasyonal, OEA, ONU, menm depatman deta meriken, you tout denonse abi Dominiken ap fè sou Ayisyen. Nou menm, nap gade.
Afè sida ak tiberkiloz se bagay ki afekte tout moun, yo paka bay Ayisyen pote tout chay la. Eske ou konnen konbyen lopital pou tibekiloz Dominiken genyen?
Dominiken paka di yo pa gen anpil sida lè moun konnen prostitisyon se yon indistri intènasyonal li ye pou yo.
Li ta byen si Ayisyen te kapab rete lakay yo pou regle pwoblem peyi a e kreye yon anvironman ki pèmèt yo viv lan desans.
Men tout tan sa poko rive, genyen ki pral pati, al chèche travay. Mem jan Dominiken yo menm pati pou menm rezon an.
Ou konnen byen ke menm si ou pase 50 an lan peyi moun, wap toujou yon etranje.Se yon trajedi ke moun blije kite peyi ou pou al viv kay moun.
Sa pa vle di paske yon moun tap soufri lakay li, se pou lot moun kontinye fè li soufri.
Gen moun ki al lan SPCA pou yo adopte yon chen. SPCA di yo pran chen saa paske mèt li t ap maltrete l.
Eske a koz de sa, ou pral maltrete chen an tou?
Lan pwen okenn ekskiz ke Ayisyen parèy yo maltrete yo tou.
Se pa charite moun ap mande, se dwa tout pèp ki fèt pou respekte tout kote.
Mem jan mwen kondane politik meriken kont ayisyen.
Men lè w gade byen, Dominikani al pi lwen pase tout lot peyi: paske yo gen yon pwoblem idantite kap kraze yo.
Ayisyen gen pwoblèm lan tout peyi: Amerik di No, Antyi, Guiyann, Erop. Men sak ap pase an Dominikani pi mal.
Gouvenman ayisyen avèk tout Ayisyen pa denonse bagay sa yo ase. Lot moun: Amnisty intènasyonal, OEA, ONU, menm depatman deta meriken, you tout denonse abi Dominiken ap fè sou Ayisyen. Nou menm, nap gade.
Afè sida ak tiberkiloz se bagay ki afekte tout moun, yo paka bay Ayisyen pote tout chay la. Eske ou konnen konbyen lopital pou tibekiloz Dominiken genyen?
Dominiken paka di yo pa gen anpil sida lè moun konnen prostitisyon se yon indistri intènasyonal li ye pou yo.
Li ta byen si Ayisyen te kapab rete lakay yo pou regle pwoblem peyi a e kreye yon anvironman ki pèmèt yo viv lan desans.
Men tout tan sa poko rive, genyen ki pral pati, al chèche travay. Mem jan Dominiken yo menm pati pou menm rezon an.
Ou konnen byen ke menm si ou pase 50 an lan peyi moun, wap toujou yon etranje.Se yon trajedi ke moun blije kite peyi ou pou al viv kay moun.
Sa pa vle di paske yon moun tap soufri lakay li, se pou lot moun kontinye fè li soufri.
Gen moun ki al lan SPCA pou yo adopte yon chen. SPCA di yo pran chen saa paske mèt li t ap maltrete l.
Eske a koz de sa, ou pral maltrete chen an tou?
Sasaye- Super Star
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Kounyelaa, bann sendenden yo ap atake Sonia Pierre ki pi gran defensè dwa Ayisyen an Dominikani.
Sonia fèt an Dominikani, men fanmi l se Ayisyen. Li gen paspo dominiken l menm jan ak tout dominiken.
Paske li rekonèt entenasyonaleman kom defensè des dwa zimen, Fondasyon Kenedi pou dwa zimen bali yon pri ane saa. Gouvènman dominiken an te proteste dèske Sonia recevwa pri saa.
Yo soti pou yo anile sitwayènte fanm vayan saa.
Nou fèt pou pwoteste kont aksyon dominiken yo.
Gouvenman Ayisyen dwe di yon bagay lan sa.
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[AlterPresse :: Haiti] Haiti – Rép. Dominicaine : Des organisations sociales expriment leur solidarité avec Sonia Pierre
Jeudi, 5 avril 2007
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> Documents >
Haiti – Rép. Dominicaine : Des organisations sociales expriment leur
solidarité avec Sonia Pierre
mercredi 4 avril 2007
Communiqué de soutien à Sonia Pierre
Soumis à AlterPresse le 4 avril 2007
Le Réseau d’Echanges Dominico-Haïtien Jacques Viau composé de 16 organisations de la société civile dominicaine, de concert avec le Comité Dominicain des Droits Humains, la Pastorale Evangélique des Droits Humains, le Réseau National d’Organisations Populaires, la Centrale Générale des Paysans, l’organisation des Jeunes pour un Progrès Solidaire et le Mouvement Jeunesse Saine, voulons exprimer notre appui
inconditionnel et notre solidarité à notre camarade Solain Pie (Sonia), directrice du Mouvement des Femmes Dominico-Haïtiennes (MUDHA), en même temps que nous rejetons énergiquement les attaques que l’agitation nationaliste entreprend contre elle et des membres de sa famille, depuis le début de l’ année.
Ce collectif entend exprimer sa reconnaissance aux médias et
personnalités publiques qui se sont solidarisés avec Mme Sonia Pierre, face aux attaques impitoyables dont elle a été l’objet par un groupe de pseudos-nationalistes dirigés par Monsieur Pelegrin Castillo Seman, en vue de questionner sa nationalité sous prétexte que des irrégularités auraient été commises au moment de sa déclaration de naissance. Il importe de signaler que le questionnement sur la nationalité de la camarade Sonia, n’est que le commencement d’un complot ourdi par ce groupe pour enlever leurs documents d’identité à des milliers de Dominicains-Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne qui se retrouvent dans la même situation que la camarade Sonia Pierre.
Pour cette raison, nous tenons à alerter les autorités sur ce complot afin qu’elles le déjouent sans tarder, étant donné le tort irréparable qu’elles-mêmes sont en train de causer aux Dominicains et Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne.
Il est clair pour nous que Sonia représente seulement le premier maillon d’une chaîne de violations contre les Dominicains/Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne à qui on enlève actes de naissance, cédulas, passeports, etc.
Dans sa phase actuelle, cette campagne contre les Dominicains-es d’origine haïtienne, recherche, entre autres objectifs, à consolider la négation des droits acquis, et de ce fait, les autorités violent les principes élémentaires du droit constitutionnel dominicain et les normes fondamentales des droits humains universels.
La République Dominicaine est un pays qui accueille divers groupes de nationaux, descendants directs d’étrangers, lesquels à la différence de ceux nés de parents haïtiens, recoivent et jouissent sans aucun inconvénient, de toutes les prérogatives attachées à leur condition de Dominicains.
Malgré le fait incontestable de notre contribution au développement national, des porte-parole de l’agitation pseudos-nationaliste, ont réussi à manipuler contre nous, des secteurs importants de la société dominicaine.
Font également partie de ce chapelet d’attaques et de violations des droits fondamentaux des Dominicains-Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne, les prétendues investigations réalisées par le Département National d’Investigation (DNI) qui avance qu’un million d’immigrants haïtiens ont été irrégulièrement documentés.
Le Livre Rose ou livre des étrangers, que prétend adopter la Junte Centrale Electorale (JCE), pour enregistrer les Dominicains/Dominicaines d’origine haïtienne, est une violation flagrante de l’article 100 de la Constitution dominicaine, qui consacre l’égalité entre les Dominicains.
Nous voulons aviser la Junte Centrale Electorale à s’abstenir de mettre en vigueur ledit registre, étant donné qu’une telle décision ne peut être effective que suite à une loi spéciale axée sur la Constitution.
Santo Domingo, 3 avril 2007
Signataires :
Red de Encuetro Dominico-Haitiano Jaques Viau (Le Réseau d’Echanges Dominico-Haïtien Jacques Viau)
Comité Dominicano de los Derechos Humanos (Le Comité Dominicain des Droits Humains)
Pastoral Evangelica de Derechos Humanos (La Pastorale Evangélique des Droits Humains,)
Red Nacional de Organizaciones Populares (Le Réseau National d’Organisations Populaires)
Central General Campesina (Centrale Générale des Paysans)
Juventud de Avanzada Solidaria (Jeunesse pour un Progrès Solidaire)
Movimiento de Juventud Sana. (Mouvement Jeunesse Saine)
Traduit par le Groupe d’Appui aux Rapatriés et Réfugiés (GARR)
Sonia fèt an Dominikani, men fanmi l se Ayisyen. Li gen paspo dominiken l menm jan ak tout dominiken.
Paske li rekonèt entenasyonaleman kom defensè des dwa zimen, Fondasyon Kenedi pou dwa zimen bali yon pri ane saa. Gouvènman dominiken an te proteste dèske Sonia recevwa pri saa.
Yo soti pou yo anile sitwayènte fanm vayan saa.
Nou fèt pou pwoteste kont aksyon dominiken yo.
Gouvenman Ayisyen dwe di yon bagay lan sa.
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[AlterPresse :: Haiti] Haiti – Rép. Dominicaine : Des organisations sociales expriment leur solidarité avec Sonia Pierre
Jeudi, 5 avril 2007
(www.alterpresse.org)
> Documents >
Haiti – Rép. Dominicaine : Des organisations sociales expriment leur
solidarité avec Sonia Pierre
mercredi 4 avril 2007
Communiqué de soutien à Sonia Pierre
Soumis à AlterPresse le 4 avril 2007
Le Réseau d’Echanges Dominico-Haïtien Jacques Viau composé de 16 organisations de la société civile dominicaine, de concert avec le Comité Dominicain des Droits Humains, la Pastorale Evangélique des Droits Humains, le Réseau National d’Organisations Populaires, la Centrale Générale des Paysans, l’organisation des Jeunes pour un Progrès Solidaire et le Mouvement Jeunesse Saine, voulons exprimer notre appui
inconditionnel et notre solidarité à notre camarade Solain Pie (Sonia), directrice du Mouvement des Femmes Dominico-Haïtiennes (MUDHA), en même temps que nous rejetons énergiquement les attaques que l’agitation nationaliste entreprend contre elle et des membres de sa famille, depuis le début de l’ année.
Ce collectif entend exprimer sa reconnaissance aux médias et
personnalités publiques qui se sont solidarisés avec Mme Sonia Pierre, face aux attaques impitoyables dont elle a été l’objet par un groupe de pseudos-nationalistes dirigés par Monsieur Pelegrin Castillo Seman, en vue de questionner sa nationalité sous prétexte que des irrégularités auraient été commises au moment de sa déclaration de naissance. Il importe de signaler que le questionnement sur la nationalité de la camarade Sonia, n’est que le commencement d’un complot ourdi par ce groupe pour enlever leurs documents d’identité à des milliers de Dominicains-Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne qui se retrouvent dans la même situation que la camarade Sonia Pierre.
Pour cette raison, nous tenons à alerter les autorités sur ce complot afin qu’elles le déjouent sans tarder, étant donné le tort irréparable qu’elles-mêmes sont en train de causer aux Dominicains et Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne.
Il est clair pour nous que Sonia représente seulement le premier maillon d’une chaîne de violations contre les Dominicains/Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne à qui on enlève actes de naissance, cédulas, passeports, etc.
Dans sa phase actuelle, cette campagne contre les Dominicains-es d’origine haïtienne, recherche, entre autres objectifs, à consolider la négation des droits acquis, et de ce fait, les autorités violent les principes élémentaires du droit constitutionnel dominicain et les normes fondamentales des droits humains universels.
La République Dominicaine est un pays qui accueille divers groupes de nationaux, descendants directs d’étrangers, lesquels à la différence de ceux nés de parents haïtiens, recoivent et jouissent sans aucun inconvénient, de toutes les prérogatives attachées à leur condition de Dominicains.
Malgré le fait incontestable de notre contribution au développement national, des porte-parole de l’agitation pseudos-nationaliste, ont réussi à manipuler contre nous, des secteurs importants de la société dominicaine.
Font également partie de ce chapelet d’attaques et de violations des droits fondamentaux des Dominicains-Dominicaines d’ascendance haïtienne, les prétendues investigations réalisées par le Département National d’Investigation (DNI) qui avance qu’un million d’immigrants haïtiens ont été irrégulièrement documentés.
Le Livre Rose ou livre des étrangers, que prétend adopter la Junte Centrale Electorale (JCE), pour enregistrer les Dominicains/Dominicaines d’origine haïtienne, est une violation flagrante de l’article 100 de la Constitution dominicaine, qui consacre l’égalité entre les Dominicains.
Nous voulons aviser la Junte Centrale Electorale à s’abstenir de mettre en vigueur ledit registre, étant donné qu’une telle décision ne peut être effective que suite à une loi spéciale axée sur la Constitution.
Santo Domingo, 3 avril 2007
Signataires :
Red de Encuetro Dominico-Haitiano Jaques Viau (Le Réseau d’Echanges Dominico-Haïtien Jacques Viau)
Comité Dominicano de los Derechos Humanos (Le Comité Dominicain des Droits Humains)
Pastoral Evangelica de Derechos Humanos (La Pastorale Evangélique des Droits Humains,)
Red Nacional de Organizaciones Populares (Le Réseau National d’Organisations Populaires)
Central General Campesina (Centrale Générale des Paysans)
Juventud de Avanzada Solidaria (Jeunesse pour un Progrès Solidaire)
Movimiento de Juventud Sana. (Mouvement Jeunesse Saine)
Traduit par le Groupe d’Appui aux Rapatriés et Réfugiés (GARR)
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Mèsi SOFA.
Kilè gouvènman Ayisyen pwal rekonèt travay Sonia Pierre ap fè pou Ayisyen parèy nou yo?
Kilè yap fè yon aksyon pou sipote fanm vanyan saa?
Ayiti : SOFA kondane pèsekisyon otorite Repiblik Dominikèn yo kont Sonia Pierre
13 avril 2007
Kominike Solidarite Fanm Ayisyen (SOFA)
Dokiman sa a vin jwenn AlterPresse 12 avril 2007
Solidarite Fanm Ayisyen – SOFA estomake e gen gwo tèt chage lè li aprann Jent Santral Elektoral Repiblik Dominikèn lage pèsekisyon nan kò Sonia PIERRE, sou pretèks yo vle fè kontwòl Batistè li, apre yon dirijan ekstrèm dwat Pelegrin CASTILLO te mande otorite dominikani yo pou yo mennen ankèt sou nasyonalite SONIA.
Devan sitiyasyon sa a ki sanble tèt koupe ak yon manèv diskriminasyon ak entimidasyon, n ap poze kesyon sa a yo :
• Kouman fè se nan lane 2007 la, Jent Elektoral la deside fè travay sa a, alòske Sonia PIERRE pitit Ayisyen, men ki se natif natal peyi Dominikani gen batistè li depi plis pase 40 lane menm otorite sa yo te ba li. Se sou baz sitwayèn total kapital peyi Dominikani Sonia PIERRE ap batay depi plizyè lane kòm militant MUDAH, epi ap defann dwa travayè ak travayèz ayisyen nan batey dominikani, menm jan l’ap defann dwa pèp nèg ak nègès, an Repiblik Dominikèn tankou nan divès peyi etranje…
• Kouman fè atak kont Sonia PIERRE rekòmanse nan moman Otorite Dominikèn yo anonse yo pral mennen envestigasyon sou pase 1 milyon Ayisyen ak Ayisyèn sou pretèks papye yo pa bon.
• Kouman fè tou se apre Sonia PIERRE, resevwa yon pri entènasyonal Fondasyon Kennedy ki vin bali yon rekonesans anplis nan lit l ap mennen pou defann kòz travayè ak travayèz ayisyen an Repiblik Dominikèn yo, atak sa vini.
Li parèt aklè Sonia PIERRE, akòz tout batay sa yo reprezante jodi a, yon gwo senbòl kont sistèm neyokolonyal batey la an Repiblik Dominikèn, kote batay li mete gwo enterè an danje.
Apati atak kont militant MUDAH a, sektè pwogresis an Ayiti tankou an Repiblik Dominikèn dwe rete vijilan pou konplo rasis ladwat Dominiken kont konpatriyòt Ayisyen ak Ayisyèn yo pa pase menm jan ak masak ‘’Perejil’’ la, kote an 1937 rejim diktati Raphaël Leonidas TRUJILLIO te asasinen plis pase 30 mil frè ak sè nou.
SOFA, yon lòt fwa ankò ap salye kouraj fanm vanyan sa a, l’ap ankouraje chenn solidarite tout gwoup an Dominikani tankou an Ayiti vle fè pou fòse Jent Santral Elekoral Dominikèn nan fè bak sou pèsekisyon rasis sa a kont Sonia PIERRE.
SE NAN SOLIDARITE AK VIJILANS ANT MAS YO NA RIVE KONSTWI YON LÒT IMANITE SAN DISKRIMINASYON, SAN RASIS.
MENM JAN NA RIVE KONSTWI YON LÒT KARAYIB KOTE JISTIS SOSYAL, RAPÒ EGALEGO ANT FANM AK GASON A POSIB.
NA RIVE VIV TOU, NAN YON ZILE KOTE 2 PÈP YO AP KAPAB VIV SAN MANÈV GWOUP KAPTALIS-EKSTRÈM-DWAT YO KI GEN ENTERÈ DIVIZE YO.
Pou SOFA
Carole P.P.JACOB, Kòdonatris Biwo Egzekitif
Olga BENOIT, Kòdonatris Jeneral Pwovizwa
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Kilè gouvènman Ayisyen pwal rekonèt travay Sonia Pierre ap fè pou Ayisyen parèy nou yo?
Kilè yap fè yon aksyon pou sipote fanm vanyan saa?
Ayiti : SOFA kondane pèsekisyon otorite Repiblik Dominikèn yo kont Sonia Pierre
13 avril 2007
Kominike Solidarite Fanm Ayisyen (SOFA)
Dokiman sa a vin jwenn AlterPresse 12 avril 2007
Solidarite Fanm Ayisyen – SOFA estomake e gen gwo tèt chage lè li aprann Jent Santral Elektoral Repiblik Dominikèn lage pèsekisyon nan kò Sonia PIERRE, sou pretèks yo vle fè kontwòl Batistè li, apre yon dirijan ekstrèm dwat Pelegrin CASTILLO te mande otorite dominikani yo pou yo mennen ankèt sou nasyonalite SONIA.
Devan sitiyasyon sa a ki sanble tèt koupe ak yon manèv diskriminasyon ak entimidasyon, n ap poze kesyon sa a yo :
• Kouman fè se nan lane 2007 la, Jent Elektoral la deside fè travay sa a, alòske Sonia PIERRE pitit Ayisyen, men ki se natif natal peyi Dominikani gen batistè li depi plis pase 40 lane menm otorite sa yo te ba li. Se sou baz sitwayèn total kapital peyi Dominikani Sonia PIERRE ap batay depi plizyè lane kòm militant MUDAH, epi ap defann dwa travayè ak travayèz ayisyen nan batey dominikani, menm jan l’ap defann dwa pèp nèg ak nègès, an Repiblik Dominikèn tankou nan divès peyi etranje…
• Kouman fè atak kont Sonia PIERRE rekòmanse nan moman Otorite Dominikèn yo anonse yo pral mennen envestigasyon sou pase 1 milyon Ayisyen ak Ayisyèn sou pretèks papye yo pa bon.
• Kouman fè tou se apre Sonia PIERRE, resevwa yon pri entènasyonal Fondasyon Kennedy ki vin bali yon rekonesans anplis nan lit l ap mennen pou defann kòz travayè ak travayèz ayisyen an Repiblik Dominikèn yo, atak sa vini.
Li parèt aklè Sonia PIERRE, akòz tout batay sa yo reprezante jodi a, yon gwo senbòl kont sistèm neyokolonyal batey la an Repiblik Dominikèn, kote batay li mete gwo enterè an danje.
Apati atak kont militant MUDAH a, sektè pwogresis an Ayiti tankou an Repiblik Dominikèn dwe rete vijilan pou konplo rasis ladwat Dominiken kont konpatriyòt Ayisyen ak Ayisyèn yo pa pase menm jan ak masak ‘’Perejil’’ la, kote an 1937 rejim diktati Raphaël Leonidas TRUJILLIO te asasinen plis pase 30 mil frè ak sè nou.
SOFA, yon lòt fwa ankò ap salye kouraj fanm vanyan sa a, l’ap ankouraje chenn solidarite tout gwoup an Dominikani tankou an Ayiti vle fè pou fòse Jent Santral Elekoral Dominikèn nan fè bak sou pèsekisyon rasis sa a kont Sonia PIERRE.
SE NAN SOLIDARITE AK VIJILANS ANT MAS YO NA RIVE KONSTWI YON LÒT IMANITE SAN DISKRIMINASYON, SAN RASIS.
MENM JAN NA RIVE KONSTWI YON LÒT KARAYIB KOTE JISTIS SOSYAL, RAPÒ EGALEGO ANT FANM AK GASON A POSIB.
NA RIVE VIV TOU, NAN YON ZILE KOTE 2 PÈP YO AP KAPAB VIV SAN MANÈV GWOUP KAPTALIS-EKSTRÈM-DWAT YO KI GEN ENTERÈ DIVIZE YO.
Pou SOFA
Carole P.P.JACOB, Kòdonatris Biwo Egzekitif
Olga BENOIT, Kòdonatris Jeneral Pwovizwa
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Sasaye- Super Star
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Nombre de messages : 8252
Localisation : Canada
Opinion politique : Indépendance totale
Loisirs : Arts et Musique, Pale Ayisien
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2007
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Fok nou rann omaj genyen yon kalite fanm sou la tè se pa pou bel twal yo pote jip yo.Lè yon moun konnen ki rayisman ayisyen genyen nan peyi saa pou yon fanm vanyan konsa pran batay malere sa yo pou li e byen se pa pri ke yo te ba li ya nan kennedy center selman li merite.Mwen mete chapo ba devan kouraj fanm saa.
E si se vre Rene Preval se yon pwogressis se pou li soutni travay fanm saa ap fè an dominikani pase si genyen yon anbasadè ayisyen vre an Dominikani se fanm saa.
E si se vre Rene Preval se yon pwogressis se pou li soutni travay fanm saa ap fè an dominikani pase si genyen yon anbasadè ayisyen vre an Dominikani se fanm saa.
Rodlam Sans Malice- Super Star
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Nombre de messages : 11114
Localisation : USA
Loisirs : Lecture et Internet
Date d'inscription : 21/08/2006
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Mezammi koze mise Ayisyen nan kay Dominiken la lontan men nou pa genyen yon lavi miyo lakay ki pou empeche ke Ayisyen ale kay Dominiken an, pwoblem sa gen sous nan 1821 le prezidan Boyer te envahi peyi Dominiken kote te genyen anpil mechante ke Ayisyen te fe dou Dominiken jiska 1844 bay kou bliye pote mak sonje se pou sa Dominiken toujou kwe ke Ayisyen se yon mechan e li toujou ap tire revange alo nou bezwen encadre Ayisyen lakay pou fe agrilti lakay o lye ale kay Dominiken e nou dwe resevwa san ki vini yo ak ke kontan pran soin yo pou yo pa retounen.
ginou- animatrice
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Nombre de messages : 315
Age : 93
Localisation : USA
Loisirs : Internet et lecture
Date d'inscription : 06/02/2007
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
République Dominicaine - Haïti : L’ex-vice-présidente dominicaine Milagros Ortiz Bosch prête à adopter Sonia Pierre comme sa fille
La dirigeante du Parti Révolutionnaire Dominicain, qui a surpris plus d’un, met en garde contre les conséquences de l’offensive visant la militante
L’ancienne vice-présidente dominicaine et membre de l’Etat-Major du Parti Révolutionnaire Dominicain (PRD, social-démocrate)), Milagros Ortiz Bosch, a créé une surprise de taille en proposant à la militante dominico-haïtienne Sonia Pierre, menacée de perdre sa nationalité, de devenir sa mère adoptive.
Selon le quotidien dominicain El Nuevo Diario, Mme Bosch, qui craint que la dirigeante du Mouvement des femmes dominico-haïtiennes (MUDHA) ne soit déclarée apatride sous la pression de la Junte Centrale Electorale (JCE), a exigé la fin des persécutions contre sa compatriote. Elle a averti que "ces actions peuvent avoir de très graves conséquences pour la République Dominicaine parce qu’elle pourrait projeter l’image d’un pays résolument hostile aux haïtiens".
http://www.caraibeexpress.com/spip.php?article831
La dirigeante du Parti Révolutionnaire Dominicain, qui a surpris plus d’un, met en garde contre les conséquences de l’offensive visant la militante
L’ancienne vice-présidente dominicaine et membre de l’Etat-Major du Parti Révolutionnaire Dominicain (PRD, social-démocrate)), Milagros Ortiz Bosch, a créé une surprise de taille en proposant à la militante dominico-haïtienne Sonia Pierre, menacée de perdre sa nationalité, de devenir sa mère adoptive.
Selon le quotidien dominicain El Nuevo Diario, Mme Bosch, qui craint que la dirigeante du Mouvement des femmes dominico-haïtiennes (MUDHA) ne soit déclarée apatride sous la pression de la Junte Centrale Electorale (JCE), a exigé la fin des persécutions contre sa compatriote. Elle a averti que "ces actions peuvent avoir de très graves conséquences pour la République Dominicaine parce qu’elle pourrait projeter l’image d’un pays résolument hostile aux haïtiens".
http://www.caraibeexpress.com/spip.php?article831
veye yo- Senior
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Nombre de messages : 27
Date d'inscription : 22/10/2006
Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Veye yo.
Se jwe rat, soufle pou mode.
Le chancelier dominicain fait l'éloge d'Haïti et de ses dirigeants à la conférence du groupe de Rio/UE: des sources proches des organisations de droits de l'homme appellent à la méfiance
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Port-au-Prince, le 23 avril 2007 &endash;(AHP)- Le chancelier dominicain Carlos Morales Troncoso, a surpris les analystes des relations haïtiano-dominicaines dans son discours à la 13è réunion du Groupe de Rio et de l'Union Européenne à Santo-Domingo où il est apparu comme quelqu'un qui voulait faire son mea culpa à Haïti pour les différentes déclarations qu'il a tenues dans le passé contre ce pays et ses dirigeants.
A Madrid, en novembre dernier, Troncoso, sous prétexte de promouvoir le dévelopement socio-économique d'Haïti, avait réaffirmé la position officielle de son gouvernemengt à savoir qu'Haïti est un pays en faillite, incapable de se prendre en main.
Ces déclarations avaient provoqué de vives réactions de la part du premier ministre Jacques Edouard Alexis.
Toutefois, à la réunion du Groupe de Rio, à laquelle le chancelier haïtien Jean Rénald Clérismé, a confirmé sa participation en dernière minute, Troncoso a tenu des propos différents considérés comme faisant partie d'une opération de charme à l'endroit des autorités haïtiennes notamment le président René Préval dont il a fait l'éloge.
Il a vanté l'action des autorités haïtiennes sur les plans politique, social et économique. Le chancelier a dit reconnaitre également la contribution historique d'Haïti sur la scène internationale.
Toutefois, des sources proches des organisations de droits de l'homme estiment qu'il faudrait se méfier des propos élogieux de Troncoso qui pourraient participer d'une manoeuvre visant à handicaper les autorités haïtiennes dans la gestion du dossier migratoire.
AHP 23 avril 2007 12:10 PM
Se jwe rat, soufle pou mode.
Le chancelier dominicain fait l'éloge d'Haïti et de ses dirigeants à la conférence du groupe de Rio/UE: des sources proches des organisations de droits de l'homme appellent à la méfiance
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Port-au-Prince, le 23 avril 2007 &endash;(AHP)- Le chancelier dominicain Carlos Morales Troncoso, a surpris les analystes des relations haïtiano-dominicaines dans son discours à la 13è réunion du Groupe de Rio et de l'Union Européenne à Santo-Domingo où il est apparu comme quelqu'un qui voulait faire son mea culpa à Haïti pour les différentes déclarations qu'il a tenues dans le passé contre ce pays et ses dirigeants.
A Madrid, en novembre dernier, Troncoso, sous prétexte de promouvoir le dévelopement socio-économique d'Haïti, avait réaffirmé la position officielle de son gouvernemengt à savoir qu'Haïti est un pays en faillite, incapable de se prendre en main.
Ces déclarations avaient provoqué de vives réactions de la part du premier ministre Jacques Edouard Alexis.
Toutefois, à la réunion du Groupe de Rio, à laquelle le chancelier haïtien Jean Rénald Clérismé, a confirmé sa participation en dernière minute, Troncoso a tenu des propos différents considérés comme faisant partie d'une opération de charme à l'endroit des autorités haïtiennes notamment le président René Préval dont il a fait l'éloge.
Il a vanté l'action des autorités haïtiennes sur les plans politique, social et économique. Le chancelier a dit reconnaitre également la contribution historique d'Haïti sur la scène internationale.
Toutefois, des sources proches des organisations de droits de l'homme estiment qu'il faudrait se méfier des propos élogieux de Troncoso qui pourraient participer d'une manoeuvre visant à handicaper les autorités haïtiennes dans la gestion du dossier migratoire.
AHP 23 avril 2007 12:10 PM
Sasaye- Super Star
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Nombre de messages : 8252
Localisation : Canada
Opinion politique : Indépendance totale
Loisirs : Arts et Musique, Pale Ayisien
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2007
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Mezanmi,
Alors que nous, Ayisyens du pays et de la Diaspora, paraissons insensibles aux traitements reserves a nos compatriotes et preferons excuser les Dominicains en blamant les victimes et notre gouvernement. Il y a des gens qui ne sont pas Ayisyens et qui supportent et defendent nos freres.
La strategie est tres effective, vu la reaction des Dominicains de l'industrie sucriere et du tourisme.
Extrait de: Dominican Today
May, 11 - 10:51 AM
Documentary urges Europeans to boycott Dominican tourism, sugar
SANTO DOMINGO. - The documentary which depicts Dominican Republic as a country where Haitians are treated as slaves, urges Europeans to boycott its tourism and sugar.
The Dominican sugar producer Vicini Group served notice on the producers of the film "The Price of Sugar" to abstain from showing the documentary, which it said is libelous against them and the country, or otherwise will take the producer to court.
Executives of the Caei sugar mill, owned by the Vicinis, said the documentary produced by the American Bill Haney proposes the boycott of Dominican sugar exports to United States and that
European tourists not travel to Dominican Republic.
Tourism in fact is the country’s main hard currency source and boycott by European tourists would severely harm an industry that generates thousands of jobs.
"The Price of Sugar" will be shown May 17 in Paris, as part of a cultural event where speakers will also speak about the alleged mistreatment that Haitian workers receive in Dominican
Republic.
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Pour voir des extraits du film, cliquez sur le lien suivant:
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
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Ci-joint, des commentaires Dominicains:
Written by Ed Gonzalez-Acosta
Cabrera, M.T.S., 8:01 AM
This should mobilize the DR gov. to change its policies towards Dominican of Haitians decent
and Haitian migrants. I'm sure the Nationalist Party in South Africa thought it was unfair for
the Int'l community to criticize them fro Apartheid, but Thank God that Int'l sanctions and
criticism was a factor in dismantling Apartheid. I hope this int'l criticism can have a similar
affect on the DR and its discriminatory practices towards people of darkskin and the poor.
Written by Dominicano
Europa, 8:24 AM
The government needs to regulate working conditions and pension schemes/ health insurance for
people working in agricultural sector and in tourism. DOminican Republic should also continue
to deport all haitians to their country and make those workplaces free for dominicans to work
in (the sugarmills and other agriculture, and in tourism). The sugar companies need to modernize
and use less hand labour, and more machines! The time has come for DR to improve working
conditions of its own people!
Written by Cesar Manzanillo
Dominican Republic, 10:35 AM
I think that this documentary is a desperated actuation from the people that wants to see the
desaparition of Dominican state, In Dominican Republic Haitians are treated as well as all the
people. In my opinion it is not how they say.. People !! open your eyes , International
organization only want Dominican republic desaparition by saying incorrect information.
We have lwas to fallow and the rigth to say who is Dominican by applying our law.
Written by Rosa
Santiago, DR, 10:43 AM
Well, it's no secret that unfortunately Haitians offer cheap labor not only in agriculture but
in construction also. The Dominican gov't tries to deport them but they always find a way back.
It would be nice like Dominicano said that by deportation it will free jobs for Dominicans but
the reality is another, some Dominicans don't like to work in that area and prefer paying someone
else and cheaper too.
Written by Carloman
Brooklyn, New York, 12:53 PM
If a decent salary rate were establish along with health insurance, The DR goverment, would not
need haitians to cut sugar cane or work in construction. Work on sugar and construction would not
stop, it would actually force companies and the goverment to raise the salaries for Dominican
nationals. We mustn't give in to external pressures, Our country identity is at stake.
Written by Samuel
Florida, 2:55 PM
Good. It's about time.
Written by JD
Washington DC, 6:04 PM
This only tells us what we already know that ..the RD is a very corrupt society which starts with
the many officials in power.
I used to question why we see the same drugs dealers in my friends barrio in Santiago but the
police or DNCD never stop it? CORRUPTION. I have such deep love for the RD but strong hatred for
corruption.
I am sending a brief clip of the movie to Senators, Oprah and other new celeberties
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
juan_de_eeuu@hotmail.co
Written by Billy H. Adams
Santiago, Santiago, 8:58 PM
Instead of merely making negative comments about theongoing problem os illegal immigration and
it's economic and social impact locally, theDR Government would be wise to invest, or encourage
the private sector to do so, in a "Counter Documentary" about how theillegal immigration is
affecting their citizens in thebottom economic category.
There is a lot of meat to be cooked and eaten on the subject and rhetoric alone isn't going to
solve a problem that has taken on a life of it's own.
Written by Bob
Orlando, 10:19 PM
let's admit it.. america has the mexicans.. the dominican republic has the haitians.. americans
are afraid and won't do certain work. the haitians..are replacing the lazy dominicans who don't
want to work.. thats all there is too it..america can't do without the mexicans and dominican
republic couldnt do it without the haitians...
Written by nico
., 10:22 PM
Modernize!
Written by M. Velazquez
Orange County, 5:31 PM
There will always be a need for cheap labor. If the DR modernizes who do you think will run the
machines at a cheaper salary; Haitians. Wake up people. If you think this will go away I've got
a Bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. The need to treat people will respect and dignity can
happen a lot sooner. Dominicans complain about being mistreated in PR but do far worse to
haitians. Deportation isn't the answer.Maybe the US should start deporting all Latinos to see
what would happen.
Written by Richard
Montreal Canada , 12:03 PM
I learned about salary differences.between the salary paid between Haitians and Dominicans.
At the time i had a haitian working for me.I had given him the same salary.Equal work,equal pay
is how i see it. That little Haitian had shown guts,and a willingness to work and he did this
along me in bad conditions.For his courage he got good money that day.Good workers should have
a good pay period.That day,i had made a decision of treating people like people and give them
equal pay.
i sleep well ..
Written by CHRIS
new york, 4:17 PM
MRS- SONIA YOU ARE A HERO FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY..YOU SHOULD BE NOMINATED FOR THE
NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.THE KENNEDY FOUNDATION WAS RIGHT TO GRANT YOU WITH THE PRICE.
KEEP FIGHTING, YOU ALSO FIGHTING FOR THE DOMINICAN PEOPLE
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
Alors que nous, Ayisyens du pays et de la Diaspora, paraissons insensibles aux traitements reserves a nos compatriotes et preferons excuser les Dominicains en blamant les victimes et notre gouvernement. Il y a des gens qui ne sont pas Ayisyens et qui supportent et defendent nos freres.
La strategie est tres effective, vu la reaction des Dominicains de l'industrie sucriere et du tourisme.
Extrait de: Dominican Today
May, 11 - 10:51 AM
Documentary urges Europeans to boycott Dominican tourism, sugar
SANTO DOMINGO. - The documentary which depicts Dominican Republic as a country where Haitians are treated as slaves, urges Europeans to boycott its tourism and sugar.
The Dominican sugar producer Vicini Group served notice on the producers of the film "The Price of Sugar" to abstain from showing the documentary, which it said is libelous against them and the country, or otherwise will take the producer to court.
Executives of the Caei sugar mill, owned by the Vicinis, said the documentary produced by the American Bill Haney proposes the boycott of Dominican sugar exports to United States and that
European tourists not travel to Dominican Republic.
Tourism in fact is the country’s main hard currency source and boycott by European tourists would severely harm an industry that generates thousands of jobs.
"The Price of Sugar" will be shown May 17 in Paris, as part of a cultural event where speakers will also speak about the alleged mistreatment that Haitian workers receive in Dominican
Republic.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pour voir des extraits du film, cliquez sur le lien suivant:
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ci-joint, des commentaires Dominicains:
Written by Ed Gonzalez-Acosta
Cabrera, M.T.S., 8:01 AM
This should mobilize the DR gov. to change its policies towards Dominican of Haitians decent
and Haitian migrants. I'm sure the Nationalist Party in South Africa thought it was unfair for
the Int'l community to criticize them fro Apartheid, but Thank God that Int'l sanctions and
criticism was a factor in dismantling Apartheid. I hope this int'l criticism can have a similar
affect on the DR and its discriminatory practices towards people of darkskin and the poor.
Written by Dominicano
Europa, 8:24 AM
The government needs to regulate working conditions and pension schemes/ health insurance for
people working in agricultural sector and in tourism. DOminican Republic should also continue
to deport all haitians to their country and make those workplaces free for dominicans to work
in (the sugarmills and other agriculture, and in tourism). The sugar companies need to modernize
and use less hand labour, and more machines! The time has come for DR to improve working
conditions of its own people!
Written by Cesar Manzanillo
Dominican Republic, 10:35 AM
I think that this documentary is a desperated actuation from the people that wants to see the
desaparition of Dominican state, In Dominican Republic Haitians are treated as well as all the
people. In my opinion it is not how they say.. People !! open your eyes , International
organization only want Dominican republic desaparition by saying incorrect information.
We have lwas to fallow and the rigth to say who is Dominican by applying our law.
Written by Rosa
Santiago, DR, 10:43 AM
Well, it's no secret that unfortunately Haitians offer cheap labor not only in agriculture but
in construction also. The Dominican gov't tries to deport them but they always find a way back.
It would be nice like Dominicano said that by deportation it will free jobs for Dominicans but
the reality is another, some Dominicans don't like to work in that area and prefer paying someone
else and cheaper too.
Written by Carloman
Brooklyn, New York, 12:53 PM
If a decent salary rate were establish along with health insurance, The DR goverment, would not
need haitians to cut sugar cane or work in construction. Work on sugar and construction would not
stop, it would actually force companies and the goverment to raise the salaries for Dominican
nationals. We mustn't give in to external pressures, Our country identity is at stake.
Written by Samuel
Florida, 2:55 PM
Good. It's about time.
Written by JD
Washington DC, 6:04 PM
This only tells us what we already know that ..the RD is a very corrupt society which starts with
the many officials in power.
I used to question why we see the same drugs dealers in my friends barrio in Santiago but the
police or DNCD never stop it? CORRUPTION. I have such deep love for the RD but strong hatred for
corruption.
I am sending a brief clip of the movie to Senators, Oprah and other new celeberties
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
juan_de_eeuu@hotmail.co
Written by Billy H. Adams
Santiago, Santiago, 8:58 PM
Instead of merely making negative comments about theongoing problem os illegal immigration and
it's economic and social impact locally, theDR Government would be wise to invest, or encourage
the private sector to do so, in a "Counter Documentary" about how theillegal immigration is
affecting their citizens in thebottom economic category.
There is a lot of meat to be cooked and eaten on the subject and rhetoric alone isn't going to
solve a problem that has taken on a life of it's own.
Written by Bob
Orlando, 10:19 PM
let's admit it.. america has the mexicans.. the dominican republic has the haitians.. americans
are afraid and won't do certain work. the haitians..are replacing the lazy dominicans who don't
want to work.. thats all there is too it..america can't do without the mexicans and dominican
republic couldnt do it without the haitians...
Written by nico
., 10:22 PM
Modernize!
Written by M. Velazquez
Orange County, 5:31 PM
There will always be a need for cheap labor. If the DR modernizes who do you think will run the
machines at a cheaper salary; Haitians. Wake up people. If you think this will go away I've got
a Bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. The need to treat people will respect and dignity can
happen a lot sooner. Dominicans complain about being mistreated in PR but do far worse to
haitians. Deportation isn't the answer.Maybe the US should start deporting all Latinos to see
what would happen.
Written by Richard
Montreal Canada , 12:03 PM
I learned about salary differences.between the salary paid between Haitians and Dominicans.
At the time i had a haitian working for me.I had given him the same salary.Equal work,equal pay
is how i see it. That little Haitian had shown guts,and a willingness to work and he did this
along me in bad conditions.For his courage he got good money that day.Good workers should have
a good pay period.That day,i had made a decision of treating people like people and give them
equal pay.
i sleep well ..
Written by CHRIS
new york, 4:17 PM
MRS- SONIA YOU ARE A HERO FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY..YOU SHOULD BE NOMINATED FOR THE
NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.THE KENNEDY FOUNDATION WAS RIGHT TO GRANT YOU WITH THE PRICE.
KEEP FIGHTING, YOU ALSO FIGHTING FOR THE DOMINICAN PEOPLE
http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/trailer.shtml
Sasaye- Super Star
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Nombre de messages : 8252
Localisation : Canada
Opinion politique : Indépendance totale
Loisirs : Arts et Musique, Pale Ayisien
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2007
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HAITI/DOMINICAN REPUBLIC: Exhibit Reveals a Bitter Harvest
Inter Press Service News AgencyTuesday, June 05, 2007 02:26 GMT
HAITI/DOMINICAN REPUBLIC:
Exhibit Reveals a Bitter Harvest
Michael Deibert
PARIS, Mar 13 (IPS) - A month-long programme in this spring hopes to shine a spotlight on the working conditions of Haitians labouring in the sugarcane fields of the Dominican Republic, a state of affairs which human rights groups have charged in recent years is little better than
slavery.
"Esclaves au Paradis: L'esclavage contemporain en
République Dominicaine" (Slaves in Paradise:
Contemporary Slavery in the Dominican Republic) will take place this May under the sponsorship of host of local and international institutions, including Amnesty International, the office of Paris mayor Bertrand Delanoe and the artistic
group Collectif 2004 Images.
The event comes at a time when the Dominican Republic is under growing criticism for its treatment of the estimated one million Haitians living within its borders, as well as Dominican citizens of Haitian descent. In addition to
criticisms of labour practices and working conditions, local and international human rights groups have charged that the Dominican government has sought to deprive such individuals of due process under Dominican and international law, and conducted sweeps and expulsions of suspected illegals with unnecessary brutality and means of
questionable legality.
For its part, the Dominican government has said that its country cannot handle the waves of immigrants continually arriving within its borders from neighbouring Haiti, a country that has been beset by decades of often-bloody political unrest and economic stagnation.
In making its point, Esclaves au Paradis will include among its offerings an exhibit of photos taken in the bateys, as the camps where sugarcane workers are known, by the French-Peruvian photographer Céline Anaya Gautier, as well as screenings of films tackling the subject of the
Dominican sugar industry and the workers toiling away in it.
A historical colloquium including such noted international and local commentators as Camille Chalmers (director of Haiti's Plateforme haïtienne de Plaidoyer pour un Développement Alternatif or PAPDA), the Groupe d'Appui aux Rapatries et Refugies (GARR) director Colette Lespinasse, Amnesty International's Geneviève Sevrin and
Dominican anthropologist Soraya Aracena will also be held.
Wherever there are people being exploited, who have no rights, it is important to speak out when we have the opportunity," says Anne Lescot, the coordinator of the cinema portion of the agenda.
"We're very aware that this question is subtle and complex and that only showing the pictures could lead to some misunderstanding, so we also wanted to explain what's behind the pictures, and that's why we organised this colloquium, as an occasion to truly understand the whole process of how, for 200 years now, Haiti and the Dominican Republic have been in a relationship of love and hate."
Haitian-Dominican relations have often been tense because of economic and cultural differences between the two countries, which share the island of Hispaniola. Although they are close in population, with 8.1 million Haitians and nine million Dominicans, Haiti is 95 percent black, and 80 percent of the population lives in poverty. The Dominican population is 89 percent white or mixed,
with 25 percent impoverished.
In the fall of 1937, the Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo, motivated by factors that have never been fully explained, instigated a pogrom in which Dominican soldiers and police massacred 15,000 to 20,000 Haitians throughout the country.
At a recent press conference announcing the Esclaves au Paradis colloquium at the Hotel de Ville in Paris, one of the subjects of a film to be screened seemed to agree about the pressing need to inform the public about conditions in the bateys.
"When I arrived (in the Dominican Republic), I knew absolutely nothing about nationality or race problems, about the sugarcane fields or the sugar industry," says Father Christopher Hartley, a Catholic priest and the main protagonist of the film "The Price of Sugar".
Hartley, born of a Spanish mother and a British father, arrived in the Dominican Republic parish of San Jose de Los Lanos in September 1997 after spending a decade ministering to congregations in the South Bronx and Soho areas of New York City. The parish encompasses the Batey dos Hermanos sugar-growing territory controlled by the wealthy Vicini family.
I was absolutely ignorant of everything I was going to confront, and I was not sent to try to help or solve or denounce these issues, but just to be a regular parish priest," Hartley says. "It was a gradual realisation of the living and working conditions of my parishioners, going about my regular pastoral duties, that made me aware."
Hartley was forced to leave the Dominican Republic under what he says was pressure from the Dominican government and the politically powerful Vicinis in late 2006. Another priest who had advocated on behalf of Haitian workers in the country, the Belgian Father Pedro Ruquoy, fled after death threats were leveled against him in November 2005. Hartley and Ruquoy have not been alone in their critiques. Human rights groups say that the
situation in the Dominican Republic has grown more dire since the May 2005 expulsion of an estimated 3,500 people at the border towns of Dajabon-Ounaminthe along the northern frontier, an episode which resulted in a formal protest to the Dominican government by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
In a May 2006 open letter to Dominian President Leonel Fernandez, Amnesty International Secretary General Irene Khan wrote that "since May 2005 Haitian and Dominicans of Haitian descent have been subjected to collective and arbitrary expulsions by the Dominican authorities in
violation of the Dominican Republic's obligations
under international standards including the American Convention on Human Rights and the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights."
Amnesty's statement was echoed in an October 2006
release by the British-based charity Christian Aid, which wrote of Dominican deportation practices that "numerous cases have been documented in which immigration officials have broken into homes and forced people at gunpoint
onto buses giving them no chance to collect documents or inform relatives. When they reach the Haitian side of the border, many have been able to prove that they were in the Dominican Republic legally."
Previously, a September 2005 decision by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights of the Organization of American States (OAS) found that, in denying Dominican citizenship to two girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico Cofi, born within the territory of the Dominican Republic, the
Dominican state had violated the right to nationality and the right to equality before the law, as well as articles 3, 5, 19, 20 and 24 of the American Convention on Human Right Pact of San Jose.
The Fernandez government has repeatedly denied that any policy of human rights abuses exists with regards to Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian-descent within the country.
Recently, the Dominican Republic's foreign minister, Carlos Morales Troncoso, bitterly lashed out at the U.S.-based Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Centre for Human Rights for recognising Dominican-Haitian activist Sonia Pierre for her work with Haitian migrants in the country, saying that those bestowing the prize were "divorced from the realities on the island of Hispaniola."
Pierre, who grew up in a migrant worker camp much like those depicted in the exhibition, has fought on behalf of Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian decent for three decades.
As if to underline the importance of the sugar industry in Dominican politics, Foreign Minister Morales Troncoso himself has a long-standing relationship as an executive and major shareholder of the Central Romana sugar concern, along with Cuban-American sugar barons Alfonso and Pepe Fanjul.
Three-quarters of the Dominican Republic's agricultural exports go to the United States, and the country has a U.S. sugar quota of 180,000 tonnes, the largest of any U.S. trading partner.
Michael Deibert is the author of "Notes from the Last Testament: The Struggle for Haiti" (Seven Stories Press). (END/2007)
Inter Press Service News AgencyTuesday, June 05, 2007 02:26 GMT
HAITI/DOMINICAN REPUBLIC:
Exhibit Reveals a Bitter Harvest
Michael Deibert
PARIS, Mar 13 (IPS) - A month-long programme in this spring hopes to shine a spotlight on the working conditions of Haitians labouring in the sugarcane fields of the Dominican Republic, a state of affairs which human rights groups have charged in recent years is little better than
slavery.
"Esclaves au Paradis: L'esclavage contemporain en
République Dominicaine" (Slaves in Paradise:
Contemporary Slavery in the Dominican Republic) will take place this May under the sponsorship of host of local and international institutions, including Amnesty International, the office of Paris mayor Bertrand Delanoe and the artistic
group Collectif 2004 Images.
The event comes at a time when the Dominican Republic is under growing criticism for its treatment of the estimated one million Haitians living within its borders, as well as Dominican citizens of Haitian descent. In addition to
criticisms of labour practices and working conditions, local and international human rights groups have charged that the Dominican government has sought to deprive such individuals of due process under Dominican and international law, and conducted sweeps and expulsions of suspected illegals with unnecessary brutality and means of
questionable legality.
For its part, the Dominican government has said that its country cannot handle the waves of immigrants continually arriving within its borders from neighbouring Haiti, a country that has been beset by decades of often-bloody political unrest and economic stagnation.
In making its point, Esclaves au Paradis will include among its offerings an exhibit of photos taken in the bateys, as the camps where sugarcane workers are known, by the French-Peruvian photographer Céline Anaya Gautier, as well as screenings of films tackling the subject of the
Dominican sugar industry and the workers toiling away in it.
A historical colloquium including such noted international and local commentators as Camille Chalmers (director of Haiti's Plateforme haïtienne de Plaidoyer pour un Développement Alternatif or PAPDA), the Groupe d'Appui aux Rapatries et Refugies (GARR) director Colette Lespinasse, Amnesty International's Geneviève Sevrin and
Dominican anthropologist Soraya Aracena will also be held.
Wherever there are people being exploited, who have no rights, it is important to speak out when we have the opportunity," says Anne Lescot, the coordinator of the cinema portion of the agenda.
"We're very aware that this question is subtle and complex and that only showing the pictures could lead to some misunderstanding, so we also wanted to explain what's behind the pictures, and that's why we organised this colloquium, as an occasion to truly understand the whole process of how, for 200 years now, Haiti and the Dominican Republic have been in a relationship of love and hate."
Haitian-Dominican relations have often been tense because of economic and cultural differences between the two countries, which share the island of Hispaniola. Although they are close in population, with 8.1 million Haitians and nine million Dominicans, Haiti is 95 percent black, and 80 percent of the population lives in poverty. The Dominican population is 89 percent white or mixed,
with 25 percent impoverished.
In the fall of 1937, the Dominican dictator Rafael Trujillo, motivated by factors that have never been fully explained, instigated a pogrom in which Dominican soldiers and police massacred 15,000 to 20,000 Haitians throughout the country.
At a recent press conference announcing the Esclaves au Paradis colloquium at the Hotel de Ville in Paris, one of the subjects of a film to be screened seemed to agree about the pressing need to inform the public about conditions in the bateys.
"When I arrived (in the Dominican Republic), I knew absolutely nothing about nationality or race problems, about the sugarcane fields or the sugar industry," says Father Christopher Hartley, a Catholic priest and the main protagonist of the film "The Price of Sugar".
Hartley, born of a Spanish mother and a British father, arrived in the Dominican Republic parish of San Jose de Los Lanos in September 1997 after spending a decade ministering to congregations in the South Bronx and Soho areas of New York City. The parish encompasses the Batey dos Hermanos sugar-growing territory controlled by the wealthy Vicini family.
I was absolutely ignorant of everything I was going to confront, and I was not sent to try to help or solve or denounce these issues, but just to be a regular parish priest," Hartley says. "It was a gradual realisation of the living and working conditions of my parishioners, going about my regular pastoral duties, that made me aware."
Hartley was forced to leave the Dominican Republic under what he says was pressure from the Dominican government and the politically powerful Vicinis in late 2006. Another priest who had advocated on behalf of Haitian workers in the country, the Belgian Father Pedro Ruquoy, fled after death threats were leveled against him in November 2005. Hartley and Ruquoy have not been alone in their critiques. Human rights groups say that the
situation in the Dominican Republic has grown more dire since the May 2005 expulsion of an estimated 3,500 people at the border towns of Dajabon-Ounaminthe along the northern frontier, an episode which resulted in a formal protest to the Dominican government by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.
In a May 2006 open letter to Dominian President Leonel Fernandez, Amnesty International Secretary General Irene Khan wrote that "since May 2005 Haitian and Dominicans of Haitian descent have been subjected to collective and arbitrary expulsions by the Dominican authorities in
violation of the Dominican Republic's obligations
under international standards including the American Convention on Human Rights and the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights."
Amnesty's statement was echoed in an October 2006
release by the British-based charity Christian Aid, which wrote of Dominican deportation practices that "numerous cases have been documented in which immigration officials have broken into homes and forced people at gunpoint
onto buses giving them no chance to collect documents or inform relatives. When they reach the Haitian side of the border, many have been able to prove that they were in the Dominican Republic legally."
Previously, a September 2005 decision by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights of the Organization of American States (OAS) found that, in denying Dominican citizenship to two girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico Cofi, born within the territory of the Dominican Republic, the
Dominican state had violated the right to nationality and the right to equality before the law, as well as articles 3, 5, 19, 20 and 24 of the American Convention on Human Right Pact of San Jose.
The Fernandez government has repeatedly denied that any policy of human rights abuses exists with regards to Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian-descent within the country.
Recently, the Dominican Republic's foreign minister, Carlos Morales Troncoso, bitterly lashed out at the U.S.-based Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Centre for Human Rights for recognising Dominican-Haitian activist Sonia Pierre for her work with Haitian migrants in the country, saying that those bestowing the prize were "divorced from the realities on the island of Hispaniola."
Pierre, who grew up in a migrant worker camp much like those depicted in the exhibition, has fought on behalf of Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian decent for three decades.
As if to underline the importance of the sugar industry in Dominican politics, Foreign Minister Morales Troncoso himself has a long-standing relationship as an executive and major shareholder of the Central Romana sugar concern, along with Cuban-American sugar barons Alfonso and Pepe Fanjul.
Three-quarters of the Dominican Republic's agricultural exports go to the United States, and the country has a U.S. sugar quota of 180,000 tonnes, the largest of any U.S. trading partner.
Michael Deibert is the author of "Notes from the Last Testament: The Struggle for Haiti" (Seven Stories Press). (END/2007)
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Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Kesyon sa fok nou ta pose prezidan li wi. Mwen pa konprann poukisa mon président que j'aime beaucoup ap pede visite officiellement yon peyi ki pa respecte ayiti et ayisien. Mwen panse ke prezidan ayisien an fe twop visit lan peyi voisin sa. e pi voisin sa ap expilsé ayisien tankou bet an ayiti. fok au moins pa respect pou prezidan ayisien , prezidan Fernandez ta fe bagay yo yon lot jan.Comme on dit ; Qui veut un ami doit se conduire en ami. Je constate que le président Préval veut un ami mais le président Fernandez ne veut pas necessaire un ami. C'est triste de constater que c'est une relation à sens unique.
Sa fe mwen mal anpil le mwen we prezidan nou an ap pran avion pou ale visite yon presidan ki pa respecte ayisien. Cela me frustre et c'est frustrant de voir tout cela.
PS: Dernière nouvelle; le président Haitien sera encore le 11 juillet à Saint Domingue en visite officielle.
Kesyon sa fok nou ta pose prezidan li wi. Mwen pa konprann poukisa mon président que j'aime beaucoup ap pede visite officiellement yon peyi ki pa respecte ayiti et ayisien. Mwen panse ke prezidan ayisien an fe twop visit lan peyi voisin sa. e pi voisin sa ap expilsé ayisien tankou bet an ayiti. fok au moins pa respect pou prezidan ayisien , prezidan Fernandez ta fe bagay yo yon lot jan.Comme on dit ; Qui veut un ami doit se conduire en ami. Je constate que le président Préval veut un ami mais le président Fernandez ne veut pas necessaire un ami. C'est triste de constater que c'est une relation à sens unique.
Sa fe mwen mal anpil le mwen we prezidan nou an ap pran avion pou ale visite yon presidan ki pa respecte ayisien. Cela me frustre et c'est frustrant de voir tout cela.
PS: Dernière nouvelle; le président Haitien sera encore le 11 juillet à Saint Domingue en visite officielle.
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SANBLE W BLYE TI TANPERAMAN AN SE NAN PREVAL LIYE MENM.
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Pipo,
Nous allons éviter d'attaquer à la personnalité des chefs d'état haitien. Essayons plutôt de comprendre pourquoi nous en sommes rendus là à achete figu yon ti peyi povre tankou voisin nou an.
Tu sais mon ami Pipo, souvent nous voyons des choses que les gens en Haiti ne perçoivent pas , peut-être parce que nous , ne sommes pas sur le terrain. Par exemple, quand je suis à port-au-Prince , je vois des fatras partout dans tout. Je vois des cochons dans les rues. Je vois des gens faire pipi dans les coins de rue, même des femmes font pipi dans les rues mais eux qui y vivent ,ne voient pas ce que je vois. N'est-ce pas étrange !
Je me pose la question, le président Voit-il que le pays voisin est en train de se moquer d'Haiti ? Je ne sais pas . Je pose la question tout simplement. Par exemple, le président a déjà effectué plus de 5 visites dans ce pays limitrophe en 1 an contre o visite du président Fernandez en ayiti. Pourquoi ?
Nous allons éviter d'attaquer à la personnalité des chefs d'état haitien. Essayons plutôt de comprendre pourquoi nous en sommes rendus là à achete figu yon ti peyi povre tankou voisin nou an.
Tu sais mon ami Pipo, souvent nous voyons des choses que les gens en Haiti ne perçoivent pas , peut-être parce que nous , ne sommes pas sur le terrain. Par exemple, quand je suis à port-au-Prince , je vois des fatras partout dans tout. Je vois des cochons dans les rues. Je vois des gens faire pipi dans les coins de rue, même des femmes font pipi dans les rues mais eux qui y vivent ,ne voient pas ce que je vois. N'est-ce pas étrange !
Je me pose la question, le président Voit-il que le pays voisin est en train de se moquer d'Haiti ? Je ne sais pas . Je pose la question tout simplement. Par exemple, le président a déjà effectué plus de 5 visites dans ce pays limitrophe en 1 an contre o visite du président Fernandez en ayiti. Pourquoi ?
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Un extrait de l'alterpresse sur un événement qui a lieu en ce moment a Paris sur la situation des Haitiens en RD.
""Nous ne sommes plus en 1938, lorsque Jacques Roumain fut arrêté à Paris à la demande des autorités dominicaines pour avoir dénoncé les responsabilités et complicités des chefs d’Etats dominicains et haïtiens dans le massacre de 15 000 haïtiens dans les campagnes dominicaines (1)... Nous sommes en 2007 et le 09 mai de cette année, le président français Jacques Chirac rappelait encore que la France devait "se mobiliser contre cette [la traite d’êtres humains] infamie". Une traite qui implique aussi bien les services de migration et des personnalités dominicains, des propriétaires de sucreries, des diplomates haïtiens et auteurs passeurs " buscones", dans un trafic de travailleurs transportés clandestinement dans des bus pour touristes aux vitres fumées, selon Espacinsular du 26 mai 2006".
Tiens , tiens on va celebrer en république Dominicaine le centième anniversaire de naissance de l'auteur haitien le 11 juillet 2007. Je ne comprends plus rien.
Je voudrais poser une question à Rodlam et à Joel, l'état dominicain a-t-il condamné le massacre des haitiens en 1938 ? Une réponse serait grande appréciée.
""Nous ne sommes plus en 1938, lorsque Jacques Roumain fut arrêté à Paris à la demande des autorités dominicaines pour avoir dénoncé les responsabilités et complicités des chefs d’Etats dominicains et haïtiens dans le massacre de 15 000 haïtiens dans les campagnes dominicaines (1)... Nous sommes en 2007 et le 09 mai de cette année, le président français Jacques Chirac rappelait encore que la France devait "se mobiliser contre cette [la traite d’êtres humains] infamie". Une traite qui implique aussi bien les services de migration et des personnalités dominicains, des propriétaires de sucreries, des diplomates haïtiens et auteurs passeurs " buscones", dans un trafic de travailleurs transportés clandestinement dans des bus pour touristes aux vitres fumées, selon Espacinsular du 26 mai 2006".
Tiens , tiens on va celebrer en république Dominicaine le centième anniversaire de naissance de l'auteur haitien le 11 juillet 2007. Je ne comprends plus rien.
Je voudrais poser une question à Rodlam et à Joel, l'état dominicain a-t-il condamné le massacre des haitiens en 1938 ? Une réponse serait grande appréciée.
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Wi Pipiroko, an gade sitiasyion an byen.
Nou pa kapab rann Preval responsab de move tretman ayisyen ap sibi lan men dominiken.
Mwen toujou kenbe dosye saa ouvri paske mwen remake ke Ayisyen sou forom saa epi an jeneral pa janm kritike e blame dominiken pou move zak li.
Mwen sitou wè yo blame ayisyen ki ap sibi yo e gouvenman ayisyen an.
Mwen ta renmen wè ke nou defann koz konpatryot nou yo e blame ni popilation ni govenman dominiken an.
Se pa yon kestyon de ayisyen ilegal ki ap pale laa.
Pami ayisyen ke yo depote, lè yo rive an Ayiti, gen anpil moun ki gen papye legal pou yo viv an Dominikani, epi gen anpil dominiken nwa tou ke yo depote paske yo nwa.
Pwoblèm dominiken an se yon pwoblem rasyal. Li pa vle tout moun nwa sa yo lan peyi yo paske yo vle bliye san nwa ke yo genyen.
Nou sonje Trujillo te aksepte yon bann alman nazi ke tout lot peyi te refize, pou l te klèsi ras dominiken yo.
Dominiken sèvi ak ayisyen pou ranpli quota sik yo genyen ak Meriken.
San yo, yo pa t ap kapab pwodui tout sik yo bezwen ekspote pou peyi yo mache.
Noumenm, se pou nou sispann achte pwodui dominiken e sitou sik dominiken, paske endistryel ayisyen mete ak yo pou kraze indistri sik ayisyen, pou yo inpote sik dominiken.
Se pa sèvis ni charite nap mande dominiken: sa n mande yo se respekte dwa Ayisyen.
Nou pa kapab rann Preval responsab de move tretman ayisyen ap sibi lan men dominiken.
Mwen toujou kenbe dosye saa ouvri paske mwen remake ke Ayisyen sou forom saa epi an jeneral pa janm kritike e blame dominiken pou move zak li.
Mwen sitou wè yo blame ayisyen ki ap sibi yo e gouvenman ayisyen an.
Mwen ta renmen wè ke nou defann koz konpatryot nou yo e blame ni popilation ni govenman dominiken an.
Se pa yon kestyon de ayisyen ilegal ki ap pale laa.
Pami ayisyen ke yo depote, lè yo rive an Ayiti, gen anpil moun ki gen papye legal pou yo viv an Dominikani, epi gen anpil dominiken nwa tou ke yo depote paske yo nwa.
Pwoblèm dominiken an se yon pwoblem rasyal. Li pa vle tout moun nwa sa yo lan peyi yo paske yo vle bliye san nwa ke yo genyen.
Nou sonje Trujillo te aksepte yon bann alman nazi ke tout lot peyi te refize, pou l te klèsi ras dominiken yo.
Dominiken sèvi ak ayisyen pou ranpli quota sik yo genyen ak Meriken.
San yo, yo pa t ap kapab pwodui tout sik yo bezwen ekspote pou peyi yo mache.
Noumenm, se pou nou sispann achte pwodui dominiken e sitou sik dominiken, paske endistryel ayisyen mete ak yo pou kraze indistri sik ayisyen, pou yo inpote sik dominiken.
Se pa sèvis ni charite nap mande dominiken: sa n mande yo se respekte dwa Ayisyen.
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Non Marc, la Dominicanie n'a jamais reconnu le massacre, ni exprimé des regrets ou apologies.
Au contraire, le dictateur Trujillo, après le massacre, a défié le president Vincent, pour son absence de couilles, en disant qu'il jeta le gant et les Haitiens ne l'ont pas relevé.
A ce point de vue, on ne peut pas etre fier d'etre Haitiens.
Jusqu'à maintenant, je le répète, je n'ai jamais vu ou entendu un haitien critiquer ouvertement ou sévèrement la Dominicanie et son peuple pour les violations flagrantes et documentées que des organisations étrangères sont en train de dénoncer.
Au lieu de supporter ces défenseurs de nos congénères, nous trouvons des excuses pour les perpétrateurs.
Quel est notre problème?
Au contraire, le dictateur Trujillo, après le massacre, a défié le president Vincent, pour son absence de couilles, en disant qu'il jeta le gant et les Haitiens ne l'ont pas relevé.
A ce point de vue, on ne peut pas etre fier d'etre Haitiens.
Jusqu'à maintenant, je le répète, je n'ai jamais vu ou entendu un haitien critiquer ouvertement ou sévèrement la Dominicanie et son peuple pour les violations flagrantes et documentées que des organisations étrangères sont en train de dénoncer.
Au lieu de supporter ces défenseurs de nos congénères, nous trouvons des excuses pour les perpétrateurs.
Quel est notre problème?
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MARC HENRY,
TE SOUVIENS-TU LORS DE LA DERNIERE VISITE DE FERNANDEZ DANS LE PAYS SOUS LE REGIME DE BONIFACE/LATORTUE?AU PLUS FORT MOMENT DES PROTESTATIONS,LE PRESIDENT PREVAL ETAIT PARMI LES INVITES DU MANDATAIRE DOMINICAIN.ON PEUT AVOIR TOUTES LES PROBLEMES AVEC LE MERCENAIRE GUY PHILLIPE MAIS ,IL ETAIT AVEC LES MANIFESTANTS QUI PROTESTAIENT CONTRE LES TRAITEMENTS INFLIGES A NOS COMPATRIOTES EN TERRITOIRE VOISIN.TU TE RAPELLES DE L'EMOI CAUSE EN HAITI QUAND IL APPUYAIT L'ETAT DOMINICAIN DANS SES ENTREPRISES.IL AVAIT DU RECTIFIE LE TIR.
ON DIRAIT SE PREVAL KAP ACHTE FIGI FERNANDEZ .POURKOI?RAISON D'ETAT?
S'AGISSANT DU MASSACRE DE 1930,CETE QUESTION N'A JAMAIS ETE POSEE PAR AUCUN GOUVERNEMENT SUCCESSIF.TU PEUX COMPTER AUSSI SUR LES DOIGTS COMBIEN D'OUVRAGES ONT ETE ECRITS SUR CE SUJET.MEME GUY ALEXANDRE,DUMAYRIC CHARLIER .SUZIE CASTOR ONT OBSERVE UN SILENCE RADIO.A MA CONNAISSANCE,L'ETAT DOMINICAIN N'A JAMAIS PIPE MOT.D'AILLEURS ,IL (PAR LE BIAIS DE LEONIDAS TRUJILLO) AVAIT PAYE 20,000 DOLLARS AMERICAIS AUX DIRIGEANTS DE L'EPOQUE.ET PUIS,LES DIRIGEANTS DE L'ILE ONT ONT TOUJOURS PRIVILEGIE LEURS INTERETS AU DETRIMENT DE CEUX DE LEUR COMPATRIOTE.MEME S'IL Y A EU DES ACCROCS COMME LE PRESIDENT ULYSSE HEREAUX AVAIENT LIVRE SYLVAIN SALNAVE A SES ENNEMIS POUR ETRE FUSILLE,L'ARRESTATION DE TOUS LES EXILES POLITIQUES HAITIENS EN TERRITOIRE DOMINICAIN POUR ETRE REMIS A DUVALIER SOUS BALAGUER.ILS FINISSAIENT DANS LES GEOLES DE FORT -DIMANCHE.NAMPHY ,MANIGAT ONT TROUVE ASILE LA-BAS.PLUS PRES DE NOUS,LES DOMINICAINS ONT FERME LES YEUX SUR LES MERCENAIRES HAITIENS POUR "RENVERSER" UN PRESIDENT DEMOCRATIQUEMENT ELU.
TE SOUVIENS-TU LORS DE LA DERNIERE VISITE DE FERNANDEZ DANS LE PAYS SOUS LE REGIME DE BONIFACE/LATORTUE?AU PLUS FORT MOMENT DES PROTESTATIONS,LE PRESIDENT PREVAL ETAIT PARMI LES INVITES DU MANDATAIRE DOMINICAIN.ON PEUT AVOIR TOUTES LES PROBLEMES AVEC LE MERCENAIRE GUY PHILLIPE MAIS ,IL ETAIT AVEC LES MANIFESTANTS QUI PROTESTAIENT CONTRE LES TRAITEMENTS INFLIGES A NOS COMPATRIOTES EN TERRITOIRE VOISIN.TU TE RAPELLES DE L'EMOI CAUSE EN HAITI QUAND IL APPUYAIT L'ETAT DOMINICAIN DANS SES ENTREPRISES.IL AVAIT DU RECTIFIE LE TIR.
ON DIRAIT SE PREVAL KAP ACHTE FIGI FERNANDEZ .POURKOI?RAISON D'ETAT?
S'AGISSANT DU MASSACRE DE 1930,CETE QUESTION N'A JAMAIS ETE POSEE PAR AUCUN GOUVERNEMENT SUCCESSIF.TU PEUX COMPTER AUSSI SUR LES DOIGTS COMBIEN D'OUVRAGES ONT ETE ECRITS SUR CE SUJET.MEME GUY ALEXANDRE,DUMAYRIC CHARLIER .SUZIE CASTOR ONT OBSERVE UN SILENCE RADIO.A MA CONNAISSANCE,L'ETAT DOMINICAIN N'A JAMAIS PIPE MOT.D'AILLEURS ,IL (PAR LE BIAIS DE LEONIDAS TRUJILLO) AVAIT PAYE 20,000 DOLLARS AMERICAIS AUX DIRIGEANTS DE L'EPOQUE.ET PUIS,LES DIRIGEANTS DE L'ILE ONT ONT TOUJOURS PRIVILEGIE LEURS INTERETS AU DETRIMENT DE CEUX DE LEUR COMPATRIOTE.MEME S'IL Y A EU DES ACCROCS COMME LE PRESIDENT ULYSSE HEREAUX AVAIENT LIVRE SYLVAIN SALNAVE A SES ENNEMIS POUR ETRE FUSILLE,L'ARRESTATION DE TOUS LES EXILES POLITIQUES HAITIENS EN TERRITOIRE DOMINICAIN POUR ETRE REMIS A DUVALIER SOUS BALAGUER.ILS FINISSAIENT DANS LES GEOLES DE FORT -DIMANCHE.NAMPHY ,MANIGAT ONT TROUVE ASILE LA-BAS.PLUS PRES DE NOUS,LES DOMINICAINS ONT FERME LES YEUX SUR LES MERCENAIRES HAITIENS POUR "RENVERSER" UN PRESIDENT DEMOCRATIQUEMENT ELU.
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Marc,
Un autre article qui démontre que les Dominicains ont un plan bien défini dans leur politique vis-à-vis les Haitiens.
Ils ont toute une batterie de lobbyists et de propagandistes pour défendre leurs actions et pour protéger leur industrie sucrière.
Ils savent que la dénonciation de leurs actes peut affecter leur économie en diminuant leurs transactions.
Nous autres, Haitiens, nous ne défendons ni notre image, ni nos intérets intrinsèques.
Koumanman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Print news - IPS Inter Press Service
Inter Press Service News AgencyTuesday, June 05, 2007 02:23 GMT
HAITI-DOMINICAN REPUBLIC:
Film on Plantations Spurs Backlash
Michael Deibert
NEW YORK, Jun 4 (IPS) - When a man stood up at the Paris screening of director
Amy Serrano's "The Sugar Babies", demanding to know how one of the film's subjects, the Belgian priest Pedro Ruquoy, could afford such a large car on his priestly salary, Ruquoy was nonplussed.
Ruquoy, who had ministered to Haitian workers in the sugarcane fields of the Dominican Republic for 30 years before being driven from the country amidst death threats in 2005, replied that, for the first several years of his time in the country, he rode a mule, and from then on, a motorcycle.
The mysterious protestor was apparently attempting to criticise another film, "The Price of Sugar" by Bill Haney, which traces the similar struggles of the Anglo-Spanish priest Father Christopher Hartley. In the film, Hartley is seen driving a 4x4 over the roads of the eastern Dominican Republic.
Due to technical problems at the Esclaves au Paradis (Slaves in Paradise) conference in Paris, which sought to explore what organisers say are the appalling conditions of Haitian workers in the Dominican Republic, the screening
times of the two films had been reversed under short notice.
"It was strange that the questions were totally unrelated to film we had just screened," says Anne Lescot, the coordinator of the colloquium and its film programmer. "They had obviously been prepared for the other film."
However disjointed, the mysterious man's interjections appeared of a piece with similar interruptions and protests that have greeted events attempting to discuss the ever-more contentious issue of the treatment of the estimated
650,000 to one million undocumented Haitians living in the Dominican Republic, fleeing the political violence and economic stagnation of their often-tumultuous
homeland.
Though these immigrants have traditionally laboured in the sugarcane fields, known as bateys, controlled by individuals such as the Cuban-American sugar
barons Alfonso and Pepe Fanjul, and the wealthy Dominican Vicini family (owners of the Grupo Vicini collection of companies and of the Diario Libre newspaper),
recently Haitians have also taken jobs in such urban endeavors as construction, auto repair and working in the country's booming resorts.
In a recent cease-and-desist order sent to the makers of "The Price of Sugar", the Washington law firm Patton Boggs (which had previously represented the
government of ousted Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide), acting on behalf of the Grupo Vicini -- subjects of scathing criticism in the film -- outlined what it claimed were 45 defamatory statements against the corporation in the
movie. The objections ranged from the Grupo Vicini's contention that its workers were not under armed guard, to allegations that some of those depicted in the
film as living in sub-standard conditions on the bateys were not in fact batey employees.
"I don't know why these people are going after not only the sugar operations of the Vicini family but sugar operations in the Dominican Republic in general,"
Read McCaffrey, the lead counsel at Paton Boggs representing the company, told IPS. "I've gone through the bateys and seen conditions that are significantly
better than those in this documentary. It is unfortunate that the film is being shown as something accurate when it is propaganda."
In response to some of the charges, Father Christopher Hartley, the priest portrayed in the film, produced to IPS over a dozen still photographs from 2003-2004 of armed men that he says were taken in and around Vicini-controlled sugar operations. In many of the photos, the men carrying pump-action shotguns are wearing baseball caps bearing the logo of the Ingenio Cristóbal Colón, a
Grupo Vicini-controlled sugar complex on the outskirts of the Dominican city of San Pedro de Macorís.
"I believe that it is unworthy of the human person to exist in the living and working conditions that were present within the boundaries of my parish," Hartley, who has been the object of great vilification in some quarters of the
Dominican media, told IPS from his home in Spain, where he has lived since being forced out of his community deep in sugar territory on 2006. "It is an intrinsic aspect of my pastoral mission to do the utmost to help these people defend their dignity, and their human rights."
Supporting Hartley's position, a prize-winning reporter for a major South Florida daily newspaper, present during the filming of scenes in "The Price of Sugar" and speaking on the condition of anonymity, has confirmed the general
conditions it depicts of life in the bateys as accurate. Though the reporter feels that certain elements of the film might have been exaggerated for dramatic effect, the reporter said that the abysmal living and working conditions of Haitians working in Grupo Vicini-controlled bateys are largely true.
"Everything (Hartley) said about those conditions, he didn't need to say it," the reporter told IPS. "When you walked around in the bateys, you could see that people were living in bad conditions, were defeated, it was a miserable life.
You didn't need words to explain it, it was there."
"The Price of Sugar" is not the only target of controversy.
To help shape its public image, the Grupo Vicini has also retained the services of Newlink, a Miami-based public relations and consulting firm founded and run by former television journalist Sergio Roitberg. In addition to the Grupo Vicini, Newlink's clients include the Policia National of the Dominican Republic and the Partido de la Liberación Dominicana, (PLD), the political party of Dominican president Leonel Fernández .
At the Paris symposium, several witnesses charge that Roitberg, in addition to vociferously interrupting a question-and-answer session following an address by Father Hartley, used strong language to threaten a French-Peruvian photographer, Céline Anaya Gautier, who spent two years documenting the lives of Haitians in the bateys and whose photographs form a large part of the exhibition.
"We know who you are, we know where you live," Roitberg is alleged to have said to Gautier, an account that she confirms. "Be very careful."
Newlink and Roitberg did not respond to IPS requests for comment.
The road for those agitating on behalf of Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian descent has never been an easy one.
Sonia Pierre, a Dominican of Haitian descent who leads the Movimiento De Mujeres Dominico Haitiana (MUDHA), was part of a legal team that, in September 2005,
successfully argued before the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights that the Dominican Republic was in violation of five articles of the American Convention on Human Rights Pact of San Jose, Costa Rica in denying citizenship to two young girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, born in the Dominican Republic.
That decision reinforced that, in its denial of citizenship to persons born within its borders, the Dominican Republic was in violation of Article 11 of its own constitution, which guarantees Dominican citizenship to the all those born
within its territory save for those "in transit" and the children of foreign diplomats.
For her efforts, Pierre, a 2006 recipient of the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award, has been the subject of attempts by members of the Dominican congress to
revoke her citizenship, despite the fact that she was born and raised in the country.
Dominican Foreign Minister Carlos Morales Troncoso, one of the bitterest critics of the newly-assertive Haitian presence in the Dominican Republic and of Pierre in particular, has a long-standing relationship as an executive and major
shareholder of the Central Romana sugar concern, along with the aforementioned Fanjuls. (FIN/2007)
Copyright © 2007 IPS-Inter Press Service. All rights reserved.
Un autre article qui démontre que les Dominicains ont un plan bien défini dans leur politique vis-à-vis les Haitiens.
Ils ont toute une batterie de lobbyists et de propagandistes pour défendre leurs actions et pour protéger leur industrie sucrière.
Ils savent que la dénonciation de leurs actes peut affecter leur économie en diminuant leurs transactions.
Nous autres, Haitiens, nous ne défendons ni notre image, ni nos intérets intrinsèques.
Koumanman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Print news - IPS Inter Press Service
Inter Press Service News AgencyTuesday, June 05, 2007 02:23 GMT
HAITI-DOMINICAN REPUBLIC:
Film on Plantations Spurs Backlash
Michael Deibert
NEW YORK, Jun 4 (IPS) - When a man stood up at the Paris screening of director
Amy Serrano's "The Sugar Babies", demanding to know how one of the film's subjects, the Belgian priest Pedro Ruquoy, could afford such a large car on his priestly salary, Ruquoy was nonplussed.
Ruquoy, who had ministered to Haitian workers in the sugarcane fields of the Dominican Republic for 30 years before being driven from the country amidst death threats in 2005, replied that, for the first several years of his time in the country, he rode a mule, and from then on, a motorcycle.
The mysterious protestor was apparently attempting to criticise another film, "The Price of Sugar" by Bill Haney, which traces the similar struggles of the Anglo-Spanish priest Father Christopher Hartley. In the film, Hartley is seen driving a 4x4 over the roads of the eastern Dominican Republic.
Due to technical problems at the Esclaves au Paradis (Slaves in Paradise) conference in Paris, which sought to explore what organisers say are the appalling conditions of Haitian workers in the Dominican Republic, the screening
times of the two films had been reversed under short notice.
"It was strange that the questions were totally unrelated to film we had just screened," says Anne Lescot, the coordinator of the colloquium and its film programmer. "They had obviously been prepared for the other film."
However disjointed, the mysterious man's interjections appeared of a piece with similar interruptions and protests that have greeted events attempting to discuss the ever-more contentious issue of the treatment of the estimated
650,000 to one million undocumented Haitians living in the Dominican Republic, fleeing the political violence and economic stagnation of their often-tumultuous
homeland.
Though these immigrants have traditionally laboured in the sugarcane fields, known as bateys, controlled by individuals such as the Cuban-American sugar
barons Alfonso and Pepe Fanjul, and the wealthy Dominican Vicini family (owners of the Grupo Vicini collection of companies and of the Diario Libre newspaper),
recently Haitians have also taken jobs in such urban endeavors as construction, auto repair and working in the country's booming resorts.
In a recent cease-and-desist order sent to the makers of "The Price of Sugar", the Washington law firm Patton Boggs (which had previously represented the
government of ousted Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide), acting on behalf of the Grupo Vicini -- subjects of scathing criticism in the film -- outlined what it claimed were 45 defamatory statements against the corporation in the
movie. The objections ranged from the Grupo Vicini's contention that its workers were not under armed guard, to allegations that some of those depicted in the
film as living in sub-standard conditions on the bateys were not in fact batey employees.
"I don't know why these people are going after not only the sugar operations of the Vicini family but sugar operations in the Dominican Republic in general,"
Read McCaffrey, the lead counsel at Paton Boggs representing the company, told IPS. "I've gone through the bateys and seen conditions that are significantly
better than those in this documentary. It is unfortunate that the film is being shown as something accurate when it is propaganda."
In response to some of the charges, Father Christopher Hartley, the priest portrayed in the film, produced to IPS over a dozen still photographs from 2003-2004 of armed men that he says were taken in and around Vicini-controlled sugar operations. In many of the photos, the men carrying pump-action shotguns are wearing baseball caps bearing the logo of the Ingenio Cristóbal Colón, a
Grupo Vicini-controlled sugar complex on the outskirts of the Dominican city of San Pedro de Macorís.
"I believe that it is unworthy of the human person to exist in the living and working conditions that were present within the boundaries of my parish," Hartley, who has been the object of great vilification in some quarters of the
Dominican media, told IPS from his home in Spain, where he has lived since being forced out of his community deep in sugar territory on 2006. "It is an intrinsic aspect of my pastoral mission to do the utmost to help these people defend their dignity, and their human rights."
Supporting Hartley's position, a prize-winning reporter for a major South Florida daily newspaper, present during the filming of scenes in "The Price of Sugar" and speaking on the condition of anonymity, has confirmed the general
conditions it depicts of life in the bateys as accurate. Though the reporter feels that certain elements of the film might have been exaggerated for dramatic effect, the reporter said that the abysmal living and working conditions of Haitians working in Grupo Vicini-controlled bateys are largely true.
"Everything (Hartley) said about those conditions, he didn't need to say it," the reporter told IPS. "When you walked around in the bateys, you could see that people were living in bad conditions, were defeated, it was a miserable life.
You didn't need words to explain it, it was there."
"The Price of Sugar" is not the only target of controversy.
To help shape its public image, the Grupo Vicini has also retained the services of Newlink, a Miami-based public relations and consulting firm founded and run by former television journalist Sergio Roitberg. In addition to the Grupo Vicini, Newlink's clients include the Policia National of the Dominican Republic and the Partido de la Liberación Dominicana, (PLD), the political party of Dominican president Leonel Fernández .
At the Paris symposium, several witnesses charge that Roitberg, in addition to vociferously interrupting a question-and-answer session following an address by Father Hartley, used strong language to threaten a French-Peruvian photographer, Céline Anaya Gautier, who spent two years documenting the lives of Haitians in the bateys and whose photographs form a large part of the exhibition.
"We know who you are, we know where you live," Roitberg is alleged to have said to Gautier, an account that she confirms. "Be very careful."
Newlink and Roitberg did not respond to IPS requests for comment.
The road for those agitating on behalf of Haitians and Dominicans of Haitian descent has never been an easy one.
Sonia Pierre, a Dominican of Haitian descent who leads the Movimiento De Mujeres Dominico Haitiana (MUDHA), was part of a legal team that, in September 2005,
successfully argued before the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights that the Dominican Republic was in violation of five articles of the American Convention on Human Rights Pact of San Jose, Costa Rica in denying citizenship to two young girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, born in the Dominican Republic.
That decision reinforced that, in its denial of citizenship to persons born within its borders, the Dominican Republic was in violation of Article 11 of its own constitution, which guarantees Dominican citizenship to the all those born
within its territory save for those "in transit" and the children of foreign diplomats.
For her efforts, Pierre, a 2006 recipient of the Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award, has been the subject of attempts by members of the Dominican congress to
revoke her citizenship, despite the fact that she was born and raised in the country.
Dominican Foreign Minister Carlos Morales Troncoso, one of the bitterest critics of the newly-assertive Haitian presence in the Dominican Republic and of Pierre in particular, has a long-standing relationship as an executive and major
shareholder of the Central Romana sugar concern, along with the aforementioned Fanjuls. (FIN/2007)
Copyright © 2007 IPS-Inter Press Service. All rights reserved.
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Opinion politique : Indépendance totale
Loisirs : Arts et Musique, Pale Ayisien
Date d'inscription : 02/03/2007
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Re: Dominiken pa zanmi nou. Ki lè na wè sa?
Mwen pa konprann kouman dominiken ap celebre 100 zan Jacques roumain ke sur la demande des autorités dominicaines en 1938, on a arrêté le jeune intellectuel haitien parce qu'il a été l'un des rares haitiens à denoncer le massacre de ses freres et de ses soeurs en republique dominicaine. ki moun kika dim poukisa ya fete san zan Jacques Roumain dans ce pays et non pas en Haiti. Mwen pansé ke se Fernandez pouki ta vini en ayiti e non prezidan pa nou ki te dwe alé lot bo an. kisa nou pansé de sa.
Entouka mesi Sasaye pou articles sa wou patage ak nou.
Entouka mesi Sasaye pou articles sa wou patage ak nou.
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