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Message  alex jacques Mar 18 Sep 2007 - 6:31

Rappel du premier message :

I am neither a Dem nor a GOP fan, but this guy just energizes me.

I would do all that I can, like Oprah said to put him in the oval

Office. I am one of the millions of people who believe that Barack Obama

Is the most suitable candidate to carry out that heavy task in this

Particular moment.


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Message  OBSERVER KEEN Lun 24 Sep 2007 - 23:41

joel, you are preaching to the choir. i do not believe that europeans are biologically exceptional; but i do believe that some cultural traits have helped them and served them well.
denying that would be dishonest.


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Message  alex jacques Mar 25 Sep 2007 - 9:47

And the Winner Is...

Yahoo! News | September 24, 2007
By Kevin Sites
Every time a Presidential debate ends it seems the real contest begins, as candidates elbow their way to the nearest television camera to spin their own performance into a tale of triumph.
But in Yahoo's Democratic Candidate Mashup - the first "online only" debate - it was the viewers who made the call, just like they would in a real election.
And who did they decide mastered the mashup? By a 4% margin they picked Illinois Senator Barack Obama, who edged out New York Senator Hillary Clinton with 35% of the vote to her 31%.
Yahoo! News asked users who they would vote for after seeing the
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 25 Sep 2007 - 18:52

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Will you be ready to sing :"happy days are here again "with president Obama?Wish you luck.(lol)By the way,I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale ;would you buy it?(lol)
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Message  alex jacques Mer 26 Sep 2007 - 14:17

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In the News

For general, Obama's character befits a commander in chief


The Concord Monitor | September 25, 2007
By SHIRA SCHOENBERG
A former U.S. Air Force chief of staff told New Hampshire voters yesterday that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has the judgment and life experience to be commander in chief.
"He's not self-centered, he's reasonable, he's not trying to prove he's tougher than his daddy," Gen. Tony McPeak told a dozen people at the Unitarian-Universalist Congregation in Franklin. "He's a guy in the Oval Office that senior military can respect and salute in a way that we've seen lacking previously."
In an election where military and foreign policy are central issues, Obama, like many presidential candidates, has no military experience. As a first-term U.S. senator, he also has little formal experience in foreign policy, although he has lived abroad, spending part of his childhood in Indonesia.
McPeak, who spent 37 years in the Air Force,
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 26 Sep 2007 - 14:30

I am not considering Senator Obama's inexperience as a reason for my doubt of his chances to win the general election if he were the nominee for the democratic party.As he said in one of the debates:nobody has more experience than Dick cheney and the former Secretary of defense,I forget his name.On the contrary, sometimes what we call experience is a lack of ability to recongnize the changes that occured during our life.

Harry Truman did not have any militray experience; yet he was president during a very trouble period in the history of the United states.The President of the united States is not the same as other presidents in other countries.He has a staff of experts in different fields to help him.I am sure that Senator Obama could be a very effective President;but does he have any chance to win the election?I hope he does.

By the way, this is an old tactic in politic to praise the weakest link in the chain of candidates of the opposite party in order to entice his nomination so they can trounce him at the election.During the survey a lot of white people will say:I will vote for Obama to show that they are not racist,but wait when they are voting you'll see a different choice.
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Message  alex jacques Sam 29 Sep 2007 - 13:10

Obama speaks to 24k in park

The Washington Square News | September 28, 2007
Emma Davis and Rachel Smith
As presidential hopeful Barack Obama spoke, a voice in the crowd declared love for him. Obama interrupted himself mid-sentence: "I love you back."
Sen. Obama (D-Ill.) spoke for about 45 minutes yesterday in Washington Square Park, running through his campaign promises, bantering with the crowd and emphasizing that he, too, was once a college student in New York.
"I used to hang out in Washington Square Park," he said, only seconds after striding on stage to the tune of Kanye West's "Touch the Sky" and opening with, "What's up New York?"
Standing before the arch, Obama said, "I know a little something about Greenwich Village," joking that he used to go to bars here but his campaign team didn't want him to tell anyone.
Obama spoke extensively about his campaign promises, clearly focusing on ones that impact college students, like financial aid. The crowd included about 24,000 people, according to Obama's campaign, and they cheered or jeered as he spoke, particularly when he mentioned "Bush," "Iraq" and "cost of college."
"Don't you think it's time we make college more affordable and accessible
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Sam 29 Sep 2007 - 17:55

There is no doubt that he is a good speaker who articulates well the issues,but can he win?This is the one million dollars question that intelligent democrats should answer honestly.We know very well he could be a very good president ,particularly for minorities,but we have to be realistic.

Articulate an issue and being able to implement a policy are two different concepts.For Senator Obama to implement the change that he is proposing he should show that he has the skills in the Senate to unite republicans and democrats alike ;has he done that yet?yes ,I know Senator Clinton has not done any better ;granted ,but given the mentality of the majority of the american people ,who has a better chance to unify the party ;Hilary or Obama?It is not a question of race or gender it is a question of pragmatism:We have to face reality.
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Message  alex jacques Jeu 4 Oct 2007 - 12:02

Obama to Urge Elimination of World's Nuclear Weapons

The New York Times | October 02, 2007
By Jeff Zeleny
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Jeu 4 Oct 2007 - 12:30

It's about time people know where Senator Obama stands on issues that are important, not only to the people of Illinois,but to the people of the world .

Have you seen the latest poll?The gap is getting bigger every day between Hilary and Obama.I wish Senator Obama had a better chance,but unfortunately the country is not ready yet to elect a black man President of the United States.Am I too pessimistic or am I a pragmatic who tells it like it is?The democrats should be very careful;Romney could be a formidable adversary for Hilary Clinton.Thank God that Georges Bush is the president of the United States;he will continue to veto bill for health care insurance for children whereas he is spending billion of dollars on the war in Iraq.With a friend like Georges Bush the Republicans do not need any enemy.(lol)
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Clinton says she'd negotiate with Iran



By HOLLY RAMER, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 11, 10:57 PM ET


CANTERBURY, N.H. - Hillary Rodham Clinton called Barack Obama naive when he said he'd meet with the leaders of Iran without precondition. Now she says she'd do the same thing, too.

During a Democratic presidential debate in July, Obama said he would be willing to meet without precondition in the first year of his presidency with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.
Standing with him on stage, Clinton said she would first send envoys to test the waters and called Obama's position irresponsible and naive.
But asked about it Thursday by a voter, the New York senator said twice that she, too, would negotiate with Iran "with no conditions."
"I would engage in negotiations with Iran, with no conditions, because we don't really understand how Iran works. We think we do, from the outside, but I think that is misleading," she said at an apple orchard.
She characterized her recent vote to label Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist organization as a way to gain leverage for those negotiations.
Obama and other rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination have been criticizing Clinton's vote late last month in favor of the resolution, comparing it to her 2002 vote authorizing the war in Iraq.
They have suggested that the Iran vote was the first step toward a military invasion there.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Sam 13 Oct 2007 - 15:30

To tell you the truth I am wondering if President Bush is not right when he said:'Any republican candidate will beat Hilary Clinton.This morning there was an article on the net about the dilemma of black women in choosing between Obama and Hilary.

As far as I am concerned it will be a mistake for the democratic party to assume that Senator hilary Clinton is the best candidate .I think the best choice is Vice president Albert Gore ;it would be really unfortunate for the country if Mr.Gore is not a candidate.I do not think it's too late, I do not think Seantor Clinton's campaign will have the same momentum next year. Hilary Clinton will be reminded of her vote authorizing the invasion fo Iraq in a debate against Thompson or Rudolphe Giullianni.The democrats should be careful :if the economy improves next year and the troops start to come home then Senator Clinton will really be in trouble.I will vote for her if she wins the nomination ,but my preference is Albert Gore.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 14 Oct 2007 - 19:54

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Avez-vous entendu les dernières accusations qui circulent contre le Senateur Obama.Ces temps-ci il serait preferable qu'on l'accuse d'etre un disciple de Lucifer au lieu d'etre un Muslim.

Voila que l'epouse du Sénateur Obama accuse Senateur Clinton d'etre la cause de la division qui existe au sein du parti democrate.Ces accusations m'inquiètent,meme si elles sont aussi commises parmi les republicains qui sont plus homogènes.Une mesentente entre Hilary et Obama peut diminuer les chances des democrates aux elections presidentielles l'année prochaine.

J'adhere au mouvement :Draft Vice president Gore for the presidency.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Ven 19 Oct 2007 - 8:48

If the advisers around Sen. Barack Obama want to continue to delude themselves into thinking they have lots of time for black voters to get around to figuring out their candidate's record on issues they care about, then the latest CNN poll surely must be the kind of slap in the face to bring them back to reality.


Martin says Obama must address issues important to black voters if he hopes to succeed in South Carolina.

There was a general assumption when Obama announced for the presidency that he was going to garner a lion's share of the black vote. In a normal presidential race, sure. But with Sen. Hillary Clinton in the race, the reality of the affection -- real and perceived -- that black folks have for the Clintons is clearly what has her storming out to a strong lead over Obama.

According to the CNN poll, Clinton leads Obama among black registered Democrats, 57 percent to 33 percent. Black women are backing Clinton to the tune of 68 percent compared with 25 percent for Obama. Black men favor Obama 46 percent to 42 percent for Clinton. The poll has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 6.5 percent.

On multiple occasions when I've interviewed him, Obama has reassured folks that his track record speaks for itself. He says with Clinton being on the national stage for 15 years, she has longevity. But he said he's confident black voters will come around the more they know about what he has done. That's nice and sounds good, but what the Obama campaign has clearly refused to recognize is that black voters are emotional, and you must speak to their core in order to reach them.

Obama has at times spoken passionately about issues blacks care about -- the war, education, civil rights, social justice issues -- but all too often he has avoided engaging in a way that touches the consciousness of black voters. Voters have told me that he's sometimes sterile and not offering the kind of passion they desire.

But there are other reasons why black voters have been ambivalent about an Obama candidacy, and it's clearly having an affect on him being able to build momentum to challenge Clinton.

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Reason number one: The belief that white voters will not accept Obama so a vote for him will be a waste. Forget the fact that there are thousands of black elected officials in the country. African Americans running for the White House are not the norm, especially one with his credentials. This is a real concern, and one that can't be overlooked and dismissed easily.

Reason number two: Obama will be "taken out" if he wins. The New York Times had a piece over the weekend where a black woman essentially said her way of protecting Obama from harm is by not voting for him. Sounds nutty, but again, it's real, and it's been said many times. I've heard this "fear factor" time and time again, and it speaks to the deep concern blacks have that America has not advanced enough to be comfortable with a black man in the White House.

The third reason: Obama the policy wonk doesn't mesh with black voters. This is not to suggest that black voters don't care about issues -- they do. But Obama has a certain emotional detachment that has turned off many of them. You can't find one major "moment" where black voters have embraced him and showered him with love. I was highly critical of his performance at the June debate at Howard University because that was his crowd. But he failed to ignite the room. One HUGE Obama supporter told me that his daughter went to the event backing him, and came out loving Clinton.

So what now, pack or go home?

No. He has an opportunity to make a move, but it must be done now.

First, the campaign must stop being afraid to put Michelle Obama on the road and let her rip. She has to be his major weapon in appealing to black women.

Second, having Oprah Winfrey's endorsement is one thing, but they must get her on the road. It will also help if Obama touts other black women who are backing him. Recently, former "Young and the Restless" star Victoria Rowell was stumping for Clinton in South Carolina, and other high-profile black women have been out front supporting her.

Obama did just pick up the endorsement of Deval Patrick, governor of Massachusetts, and only the second elected black governor in history. Yes, he's a former top Clinton administration official. But his state has a small black population, so that really doesn't help Obama with black voters.

Lastly, Obama must forget the national polls and focus solely on South Carolina. Nearly 50 percent of the Democratic Party primary voters there are black, and research shows that 40 percent of black women haven't made up their minds in the state. Even though research conducted by the Clinton campaign reveals that Obama's message isn't resonating with blacks, research done by the Obama camp shows that when black women have met and been engaged by Obama, he's been able to convert them into supporters.

Bottom line: Low black support means Obama is toast.

If his campaign keeps playing it safe, hoping not to alienate white voters, he'll likely be on the campaign trail next fall.

But he'll be stumping for Clinton.

Roland S. Martin is a nationally award-winning journalist and CNN contributor. Martin is studying to receive his master's degree in Christian communications at Louisiana Baptist University, and he is the author of "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith." You can read more of his columns at www.rolandsmartin.com.

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Message  alex jacques Mar 6 Nov 2007 - 15:28

Obama's Red State Appeal
By JAY NEWTON-SMALL/OMAHA Tue Nov 6, 7:15 AM ET


Dave Filipi, a 48-year-old family doctor, made his way to the back room of McKenna's Blues Bar near the University of Nebraska's Omaha campus. Nervously smoothing his suit, he lingered in the doorway. "To be honest, I'm a Republican," Filipi sheepishly said as two dozen curious faces swinging around toward him.

"Trust me, you're not the only one here," Solomon Kleinsmith, the head of the group "Nebraskans for Obama" and himself a lifelong Republican, replied with a chuckle. "Come, sit down."

Political organizing for Democrats in red states like Nebraska can often feel a bit like leading AA meetings. But that hasn't deterred more than 300 Nebraskans from forming a dozen groups for Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign, and they aren't the only ones. On Monday, the Obama campaign announced that over 300 Iowa and New Hampshire Republicans had decided to cross party lines to support Obama. At Obama events in Oklahoma, Kentucky, Virginia and Georgia, a good 20% of audiences routinely raise their hands when emcees ask for Republicans in the crowd. A "Republicans for Obama" website has 11 state chapters with 146 members. An August University of Iowa even found Obama running third in the state among Republican candidates, behind Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani but ahead of both Fred Thompson and John McCain. And a national Gallup poll this month also found that nearly as many Republicans like Obama - 39% - than the 43% that dislike him, compared with the 78% of Republicans who held an unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton.

It seems a lot of Republicans took to heart Obama's statement in his rousing speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention that "there is not a liberal America and a conservative America - there is the United States of America." And with polls showing Obama still trailing Clinton and supporters urging him to become more aggressive in attacking the frontrunner, his non-partisan appeal could be a useful rallying cry as Iowa and New Hampshire fast approach. Already, the campaign uses his electability as a defense when things don't go their way. Last Wednesday, when the former first lady won the endorsement of the powerful Association of Federal, State and Municipal Employees Union - which has more than 30,000 members in Iowa - Obama campaign manager David Plouffe responded with this: "It is a bit surprising that the union probably most concerned with state and local election results would support the candidate with the likeliest least appeal in red states. When Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, he will not only win the presidency but his appeal to Republicans and Independents will lift down-ballot candidates all across the country."

Even some former Bush supporters and advisers are Obama converts. Three former major fundraisers for the President have given money to Obama. One of them, James Canning, a Chicago financier, is openly supporting Obama after he grew tired of what he calls the GOP's "Neanderthal positions on things like stem cell research and global warming." Mark McKinnon, Bush's chief media consultant during both of his presidential campaigns, has warned his clients - including Senator John McCain - that if Obama wins the Democratic nomination McKinnon won't work against him in the general election. And Matthew Dowd, Bush's former top political strategist, told the New York Times that the only candidate that appeals to him this cycle in either party is Obama.

"I don't think Oklahoma has seen this kind of enthusiasm for a Democrat since Bobby Kennedy,'' marveled Lisa Pryor, chairwoman of the Oklahoma Democratic Party, who is not endorsing a candidate, after an Obama rally in Oklahoma City in March that drew more than 1,000 people - each of whom paid $25 to get in, and handed over their contact information. "He could be the first Democrat to win Oklahoma since LBJ."

The demand for Obama in conservative states is a testament to his rock star status, a term he loathes for its implication that he's all style and no substance. But it may be the very fact that many voters don't yet know that much about the specifics of his politics that is sustaining his level of cross-party support. "I'm not seeing any pretty clear matches for me in the Republican crop," said Filipi, a lifelong Republican who founded "Nebraskans for Obama" on the Internet. "The last few years I've really had to settle on who I've voted for. I haven't been inspired. I'm not sure Obama's that person either but he's the closest I've come to getting inspired in years."

In fact, Obama's voting record is the most liberal of any candidate, according to a National Journal analysis. Obama's score of 84.3% in the Journal's ratings formula, tops even that of Representative Dennis Kucinich, who was considered the most liberal Democratic presidential candidate in 2004.

Republicans and Independents are a vital demographic for Obama, who needs to draw in new voters in order to compete with Clinton and Edwards in Iowa, the all-important first test of presidential politics. The three are essentially tied in polls in Iowa, where anyone, regardless of party identification, can show up and caucus provided they sign a (non-binding) letter saying they intend to change their registration. And while 76% of Edwards supporters caucused in 2004, only 55% of Obama's supporters took the time four years ago, according to another University of Iowa poll out this week. "For Obama, getting people who are less likely to caucus out the door in January will be critical," said David Redlawsk, the poll's director and an associate professor of political science.

And just in case Iowa Republicans and Independents aren't yet sold on Obama, Kleinsmith and his group of Nebraskans for Obama are working across the border in Iowa to convince them. "My big fear is: if he doesn't win Iowa that's it for him," Kleinsmith told his group. As well, he would surely argue, as it would be for the Democrats' already slim chances in a state like Nebraska.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 6 Nov 2007 - 23:50

Are they truly crossing the lines or are they using deceived tactics to exploit Senator Obama's candidacy?I hope they were sincere.However ,knowing very well how deceitful politicians are;we ,democrats, should be careful in choosing the right candidate for the coming Presidential elections.

This election could be the most important for the survival of civilisation;it is incumbent to all citizens of this country to cast their vote accordingly.We should not be robot that are manipulated by the press or polls.The next president of the United States will be very impoprtant in transforming the world that is in danger of inondation ,famine,wars etc.

I remember during the primaries in 2000 Senator Lieberman said :"Goerges Bush is not ready to be President of the United States." We know now how profound his evaluation of the President was.I sincerly hope that the republicans who are crossing the line to embrace the candidacy of Senator Obama are doing it for the progress of their country and humanity.However one should not vote against Georges Bush ;one should vote for the person who is the most qualified to lead the world.No matter what we think ;we're all in the same boat.The rise of the sea will not only affect the people living in Florida or in new York it will be a calamity all over the world.Therefore we should vote for a candidate who thinks about this environmental problems.The fiasco of the aftermath of Katrina and the war in iraq should teach us the importance of our votes.
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Message  alex jacques Sam 10 Nov 2007 - 14:42

Obama says he'll fight for middle class

The Nashua Telegraph | November 08, 2007
By Kevin Landrigan
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Wednesday he would take on banking, insurance and corporate interests to give the struggling middle class relief from predatory lenders and restrictive bankruptcy laws and would also give more time off to employees to care for themselves or loved ones.
Obama's proposal includes a $1.5 billion fund to encourage states to offer paid family leave, extending the unpaid leave mandate to include employers with 25-50 workers and allowing employees to use unpaid time off for non-emergency care for elders or school meetings for parents.
"One of the things we want to do is to make sure that medical and family leave applies to more people, and we also think it's important that we support efforts to provide paid family leave,'' Obama said during a telephone interview.
The Illinois senator would also mandate employers give all employees at least 10 sick days and automatically enroll them in retirement savings plans.
Workers could decide to opt out of the program, but studies show more than 75 percent who sign up in this manner keep saving, Obama said.
To reduce predatory lending, Obama would create a federally-regulated rating system on the charges and consumer practices for each credit card and ban companies from charging interest on existing debt or collecting interest on late fees.
"Americans need to pay what they owe, but they should pay what's fair,'' Obama said during a speech Wednesday in Bettendorf, Iowa.
- He also proposed that families get a $4,000 tax credit for college expenses. The credit is offered for students to attend a two- or four-year program at a private or public school, Obama said.
Obama refuted the claim of primary rival former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards that he lacks the fight to win the presidency and can't bring about change through compromise with entrenched interests in Washington.
Obama said as a state and U.S. senator he fought for campaign finance and ethics reform while Edwards had no similar accomplishments during his six years in the Senate.
"For all the talk in this campaign, he doesn't have that same track record of working on those issues. Those are not issues he worked on when he had the chance to,'' Obama said.
Edwards has led by example throughout his career by refusing to take money from Washington lobbyists or political action committees, a spokeswoman countered.
"He was a co-sponsor of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill in the Senate, and he put his money where his mouth is and accepted public financing this year to do his part to curb the influence of cash in this race,'' Kate Bedingfield said.
A new, independent poll puts Obama within 10 points of the lead with front-runner New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton at 34 percent, Obama at 24 percent and 15 percent for Edwards.
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson got 8 percent from the poll of Rasmussen Reports taken on Nov. 5 among 772 likely Democratic primary voters.
"We're making progress. We are pleased about that and believe we'll continue to make more progress in the weeks ahead,'' Obama said.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Sam 10 Nov 2007 - 14:56

I am glad to hear that Senator Obama is talking about the issues that concerned the american people ;for lots of people do not know really what he stands for;maybe the people of Illinois know Obama ,But since his election in the senate ,I did not recall any bill that he proposed to alleviate the problems he mentionned in this speech.

Let's wait and see after the Ohio and New Hamshire primaries before we hop on a train that is going nowhere.This election is too important for us to be guided by promises and emotions.We need someone with experiences and guts to deliver the reforms that are needed to spare the world the kind of disasters that we're witnessing under the leadership of an apprentice like Geroges Bush.He should have been fired during the last election.
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Message  alex jacques Lun 12 Nov 2007 - 14:50

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/reclaimaday?source=20071112_RAD1_1_C_G

have you heard this folks?
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Message  alex jacques Ven 4 Jan 2008 - 2:30

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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Ven 4 Jan 2008 - 7:46

Is it true we're witnessing a profound change in american politics or are we dupe of a strategy of the republican party;I hope the former hypothesis is correct.

Although I have doubt about the electability of Senator Obama ,I must admit his victory in a State like Ohio is indeed a significant sign that americans want change in their government . Now the Clntons ,if their agenda is really to change the way this country is governed ,better stop their negative campaign right now.Last night I heard Senator Clinton spoke about electability.Analizing Sanator Obama's victory last night one must conclude that Senator Clinton is not more eligible than Senator Obama; particularly when the female and blacks vote are included in the equation.If in a State like Ohio Mrs Clinton is not even the second choice ,then one must wonder if Senator Obama is not a better choice.

Now that the white vote is less diluted because of Senators Dodd and Biden withdraw from the race ;let us wait for next Tuesday.Is this young generation of americans ready to elect a black man President of the United States.It sounds too good to be true.Let us pray for God's guidance and his protection of this courageous young man..

At any rate ,the Ohio vote is just a battle ;there will be more battles during the long electoral process.Let us wait how the candidates perform in February before we hop on a train that has no destination.
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Message  alex jacques Ven 4 Jan 2008 - 8:52

I don't think it's a republican strategy. I think it's more the young people who this time devote to not only admire but act.
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Message  alex jacques Ven 29 Aoû 2008 - 6:59

We were fired up in 2006, we are still fired until Nov 4.
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Message  alex jacques Jeu 6 Nov 2008 - 13:24

Merci Forumhaiti d'avoir sauvegarder les messages. Je suis heureux de trouver mon premier message sur Obama datant du 23 Aout 2006. Je pense le premier sur Obama sur Forumhaiti

Quand j' ai poste le message, j' ai du croiser mes doigts attandant les reponses de Sans Malice qui est un realiste. J' etais sur que San Malice allait dire que je revait et a vrai dire il avait raison de penser ainsi.

Mais en fin de compte, ce qui apparait impossible en 2006 devient un fait accompli. Obama gagne 9 etats republicains Indiana, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Mexico, North Caroline, Colorado, Virginia, Ohio, Florida.

Obama gagne plus de vote populaire que tous les autres presidents americains

Obama rentre dans le livre des records de " landslide" en totalisant 364 electoral votes.

Sans mentionner qu'il est le premier noir a etre elu president.

NB: Administrateurs de Forumhaiti, avez vous une archives independantes du site pour sauvegarder les articles des membres? Ce serait genial, je me souvient qu'apres la fermeture du premier forum, tous nos messages sont perdus.
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Message  Marc-Henry Jeu 6 Nov 2008 - 13:38

Je suis aussi surpris que toi mon ami Alex de retrouver ton premier article. Je sais que l'on en a perdu bcp d'articles intéressants c'est pourquoi nous travaillons sur un nouveau site pour complementer celui-ci.

Bravo et le temps t'a enfin donné raison ... Un ancien president Américain disait au peuple américain :n'ayez pas peur de la peur. Obama dirait aujourd'hui gardons toujours espoir - yes we can.

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