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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 0:49

Bagay yo pwal gate ! Se mwen
Kenge !





Par Jean Erich René





erich@mondenet.com





Tem kase moso mete lan zorey
nou. Preval al koute flatè ki dil jete Alexis.






Men konye ya li pa fouti
jwen-n yon Premye minis. Tout jwè vole kite tab la. Doub sis vle mouri lan men
Preval. Yo youn pa wè kouman yo pwal fè pou kenbe kiyè fè cho sa-a lan men yo,
menm pou yon ti moman. Gen 3 bagay ki fè yo pè. An nou kómanse pa pi gro wa






1.- Pwoblèm dwóg la





Nou pata sipoze sa, Peyi
Dayiti blanch kon koton ak poud.Poud anba kaban-n.






Poud lan komisarya polis.
Poud andedan presbitè. Poud ki pa rete ak poud!






Lan semen-n grangou sa-a
men-m se pi rèd. Tout gro barak dwòg yo se andedan la polis la menm yo chita.
Se yo ki gen zam, se yo ki tire. Tolki wolki yo lan dyòl yo yap farinen.
Lapolis ak yo, 2-tan 3 mouvman tout baba, amèn. Se sak fè yo pa fouti arete Guy
Philippe. Lòt jou lè yo desann Pestel anvan yo rive Ti Guy te gentan jis Lekòbera.
Sak kapab al pran-l. Avyon paka desan-n la, ni elikopte ni bato. Leta lan dwòg
la, komesan ladan-l tou. Sak ka fimen siga limen lan 2 bout sa-a.






Tout kout tanbou ou tande
kat bal la-a tout se kaka chat dèyè bwèt. Se 2 moun-Preval anvi mete Premye
Minis: Paul Denis ak Ericq Pierre. Atansyon pa blie Ericq Pierre di non-l gen
yon q ladan-l. Sa fèl 2-q. Pa okipe-n de sousou bèkè kap graje la. Yo pa tabak
lan pip la. Ericq 2-q se yon vye biwokrat rat ki nan tout enstisyon
entènasyonal e nan tout leta. Se yon nèg ki chaje ak konpleks li pa ka lidè li
pa gen lidèchip.






Mouche Paul Denis Chèf OPL,
premye pitit gason Mao, Ti frè Poutine, ki pa manje anyen ki frèt, li move kon
konn morèl, rale kò-l lan kous pou Primati ya. Li di li pa wè tèt li lan
salmanaza sa-a Kouman li pwal fè chita Vila Dakèy poul kite vagabon san zave,
san zazil ap paweze dwòg lan peyi ya, ou byen pou li kite atoufè, san manman
Aristide yo kontinye ap kraze brize ak fè zak malonnèt. Dwòg dilè yo di Paul
Denis:






- Depizopa, mò rèd, wet sa
lan san-w. Grate kote-k grate-w. Retire ko-w al kanpe byen lwen. Si-w leve menm
nap fout kreve je-w. Paul Denis vole gagè.






2.- Pwoblèm idantite





Tèt Eric Pierre cho kon vè
lanp. Epa jodiya ya, lap fè la viron-n dede poul chita lan Primati ya. Premye
fwa-a, yo voye-l tounen pou pwoblèm Batistè-l ke li te korije. Se yon batiste
PEYIZAN li te genyen. Li te fèt lan yon seksyon riral yo rele Sasye, Bass
Ginode. Li te korije non gran papa-l tou ki te rele Aselóm. Li pat vle yo te
griyen dan sou li. Konplèks sa-a ap minen yon pakèt moun lan peyi ya. Gen menm
gro militè ki te rive General, se ak batistè ti frè yo , yo te enskri lan
akademi militè. Isit lan Kanada gen yon gro doktè lè lap fè fèt lakay li, li
sere manman-l lan yon chanm, paske li pa kon-n pale franse. Se dilere sa-a! Gen
lòt kandida ki gen doub nasyonalite. Yo bayo kanè, yo renmèt yo bay paran yo.A
la traka papa, tankou Profesè Manigat ta di. Ou kwè peyi sa-a ap chape? Pwoblèm
sou pwoblèm. Ka sou Ka.






3.- Pwoblèm diri





Tonnè krakra-m, izèdeze,
diri ya se yon bwa pa manyen li ye. Men Preval konpran-n diri se drapo la-l
desan-n li lan Palè Nasyonal a 6 zè di swa. Demen maten a 8 tè li monte pi rèd.
Machan-n yo di moun ki vin-n achte yo:






-Tann diri 43 goud prezidan
Preval la, sa nou gen lan men nou la, se 51 goud li ye. Fout demaske-n devan-m
lan. Ban-n tafyate, se sou nou fout sou! Preval fout kon-n fè diri poul bay pri
diri ya. Li gen jaden diri lan Palè ya. Talè-m pa di nou ansan-m ak tout Preval
nou wan sa Kasayòl te di bèf la.






Premye Minis tonbe pou diri
men pri diri pa tonbe. Kilès ki toro wa? Se diri! Pwoblèm diri ya kanpe tchèl.
Li pa brinding kò-l. Jou vanse bare Preval. Men-m Premye Minis li pa ka lonmen.
Men pèp la deja arimen kò yo pou yo pran la ri ankò.






Mèkredi moun gran Savan-n
lan Okay te sonnen kò-n lan bi rasanbleman pou yo di Preval yo pa bliye-l. Se
lan yon ti twou yo rete yap gade-l pou yo wè sa lap fè ak yo.






Kite ko, pran ka, vièj pete
je-m Preval pa wè anyen lan zafè diri ya, e li pap fout fè anyen tou. Malèt li
deja fèt , se bon jan van lap tan-pou-l monte Mamlad. Dayè depi 2 avril lè
vagabon yo te kraze baryè Palè ya pou yo te al pase pran-l, pitit fi li ki te
ansent, tap fè jouda lan fenèt la, te espante, li sot tonbe de pye long. Li fè
avotman. Li pèdi pitit la-a. Depi lè sa-a Preval dekouraje. Li te vle vire dol
pou-l ale se Anbasadè La Frans, Brezil, Etazini ak chèf Minuchta-a ki bat do-l
kidi-l li paka fè yon bagay konsa. Sa-a se yon jwèt ti moun. Se pa sèl Ayiti ki
gen pwoblèm grangou ak la vi chè. Malgre tou Preval pa wè li pa tande li pa gen
anyen ki kenbe-l lan Palè Nasyonnal. Se ale pou-l ale. Se lè lap fè. Pèp
ayisyen pran lan 3 wa :






- Wa gentan konnen (si
Preval gen solisyon grangou)






- Wa kite sòt (dèske nou te
vote Tonton Nwè-l)






- Wa yan (diri, pa gen pri
kap desan-n)






Bagay yo pwal gate! Se mwen menm
Kenge ki di sa. Fout mwen yon kalòt si-m manti.
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Message  Joel Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 7:33

ERICH RENE vle chanbadman.Pou li menm depi bagay yo gate mesye ekstrèm dwat tokay li yo ap gen yon chans.
Men tou,se kan l ap pran l ap konnen.Se posib ke misye gen dwa konprann se Azizwèl parèy li yo ki ap tounen epitou se son konsèy revolisyonè ki gen alatèt li yon nonm tankou RENE CIVIL (se jis yon egzanp) ki pran pouvwa a ,e deside regle yon fwa poutout sitiyasyon anòmal ki ekziste nan peyi an ,depi kò asasinay ki te fèt sou Anperè an 17 Oktòb 1806.

Mesye,sispann bat kò nou tande,Preval se dènye espwa nou,sitiyasyon entènasyonal lan p ap evolye an favè nou.Kalma nou,se sèl konsèy mwen ta bannou
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 8:46

Sise pou youn konsey revolutyonè pran pouvwa mwen ta di preval degaje w bat zel ou.Paske se sa ki merite fet vre.Pwoblem ke pep ayisyen a ap konfronte jodya se zev politisyen tradityonel yo ki genyen bouda ron e ki vle pete kare.Youn moun pa beswen maton nan ekonomi pou konprann pwoblem peyi ya se fè youn kout je nan bidjè ya e wa konprann tout vye pwomes politisyen ap fè se bobinn.Pye yo mare tankou krab san se pa ed enternatyonal la menm gouvenman an pa ka fonktyone ,nan kondityon saa kote yo pral jwen lajan pou yo envesti nan lagrikilti pou yo ba pep sa manje ?

Se sak fè mwen te di kisa Preval te fè anvan ki fè li merite youn lot manda ankò men li depi plis pase 2 zan li ap gouvène peyi ya se kriz sou kriz.koulyè ya menm pitit li ap peye po kase ya.Nonm lan te nan repo li byen pwop ou tou malad sa w tal chache foure kò w nan traka ankò?ou konnen byen ou pat ka fè san soti nan woch pouki sa ou pat rete trankil ;kite moun ki genyen kouraj pou fè sak merite fet la pran mayet la.Se iresponsable si Preval ta nomen youn lot premye Minis ni fè elektyon grimas pou ranplase 12 aryen a fè yo nan Senaa ,kob saa ka ba 2 zou 3 ti moun manje nan kantinn lekol yo.Si genyen kek senatè ak depite ki vrèman patriyot ki ka bay demisyon yo sa ta pi bon pou pov ki ap manje biskwit labou yo.Mesye anbasadè ki ap vanje la ras ,fè youn jes patriyotik di Presidan non mon chè nou pa ka chita ap grate santi epi pep la ap manje biskwit labou.Pran lajan wap peye nou an ak tout chofè, loyer , sekretè ,konseye, eletrisite ,dlo etc mete l nan edikatyon ak agrikilti konsa petet anvan wale wa ka mete kek magasen leta kote pep la ka achte manjé a youn pri ki afordab.Preval ka pran desisyon sa yo pou kont li san li pa beswen youn premye Minis pou vinn anmegde moun.Se fout iresponsab pou youn moun al pran youn job kote w konnen byen ou pa ka fè anyen ak li.Se pou tout ayisyen konsyan rete lwen job saa. ayiti pa beswen li.Depi youn moun pran l map rele aba li.Fok politiysne ayisyen pran responsabilite yo devan desas saa.mache ya two pitit pou tout kolektè sa yo .ba pep la youn souf bann san konsyans.Aba Premye Minis ,aba Senatè, aba depite , aba tout anbasadè, konsil ,manb CEP,Minis initil .kite lajan peyi ba pep la manje.Tonnè nou pa fout genyen wont.
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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 8:51

Bali Malis!!!

Wap vini Wi!!!

Sé sak fè mwen pap Dékourajé avè w!!!

Map bawoul a ti-kiyè

S'il le faut

men map bawoul ka-menm!!!
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 9:07

depi se youn bon Ti zann ki pou fè mwen fè bon dijestyon de sa wap pale yo map pran youn vè kan menm ;men tou ou pap banm bwè oken gwog magog komsi ou vle dim se preval ak Aristide ki responsab desas saa.Si sete Pitit tig la nou ta nan eldorado jodya, se gwog saa mwen pa vle ou fè m vale l.Apre sa depi se bon jan ti zann wap ba pep la map toujou felisite w.
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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 9:19

Si sete Pitit tig la nou ta nan eldorado jodya,
se gwog saa mwen pa vle ou fè m vale l.Apre sa depi se bon jan ti zann
wap ba pep la map toujou felisite w.

- Malis Hummm!!!
Bien kémwen té gen Mounmwen ki pat two lwen pouvwa jankodisla
Mwen tébay pitit tig la sal mérité tou wi avant 86.

Sempman Mwen DI: RAYI CHEN DI DANL BLANC

-Tonè krakam mwen régrèt, mwen pran nan pa konpran.
Mwen tap kouri pou la pli mwen tonbé lan riviè.
Epi pa nimpot riviè non, paské gen riviè wou janbé
woupa mouyé,wou ka menm benyen wou bwè dlo sous ladan
wou rétiré rad wou ou bien mouté janm pantalon w.

- Bon kité priè pran kantik
mwen pat janm nan kan ti pèya
men nan zafè défacto yo
Menm ti pè ya dwé m..
mwen pran nan pa konpran anko
2 fwa sé twopp ato


Riviè nou tonbé ya wou konen non-li
Sak sal la, sak broté labou a , sak vidé
kay pay ti maléré, ak broté zanimo pèp la
sakap simen latérè grangou klorox la



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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 9:31

Men yon nouvèl Reginal Péan lague sou Nèt la Tanpri al konfirmen sa-a sanblé ak yon tripotay

Serge Giles est désigné comme Premier Ministre ?



Trompés
par le matraquage publicitaire, par "tim tim boi seche", par "blan
meriken se satan" et par "boujoisi patri poche", de nombreux
intellectuels et étudiants, jadis, en étaient venus à croire que Haiti
aurait pu échapper à la misère, au sous-développement, à l'insécurité,
... grâce à Jean-Bertrand Aristide et à la Gauche-Socialisme.




Les
preuves nombreuses et évidentes ont indiqué que l’objectif principal
de la Gauche était surtout de bercer de belles paroles les oreilles de
la jeunesse naive et celles des diplomates de Amérique latine et de
l'Europe pour briguer le pouvoir, plutôt que de donner des
instructions claires et d'aider les gens auxquels ils se tenaient à
acquérir la détermination et les capacités nécessaires pour résoudre
leurs difficultés. Des promesses intenables et irréalistes avaient
toujours l’avantage sur des projets modestes mais faisables. Il faut se
souvenir des discours volcaniques que Jean-Bertrand Aristide prononçait
avant 1990 à l'enceinte de l'église St Jean-Bosco tout le voyant
brûler le drapeau américain qu’il appelait le grand satan.




[size=141]Quelle confiance pouvons-nous avoir dans les actions de la Gauche-socialisme composée de René Preval, Serge Giles, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, Paul Denis, Victor Benoit, Evans Paul, Micha Gaillard etc...
ayant déchiré le voile du civisme, de la sentimentalité , de la
fraternité, de la fierté qui recouvrait les relations de familles
haïtiennes, et aujourd'hui les a réduites à n'être que de simples
rapports d'argent ? [/size]




Qui instaurera une nouvelle Haiti
où la société ne sera plus déchirée par les querelles entre les "ti
legliz et gro legliz", le noirs et les mulâtres, les ouvriers et les
patrons ni paralysée par la violence des chimères, où la vraie
éducation sera abondante, où les paysans communément appelés "Neg nan
bwa" tendront vers l'émancipation et l'alphabétisation, où les jeunes
cultivés ne seront plus contraints de vendre leurs poils en échange
d'un emploi?




[size=141]Est-ce Serge Giles, celui qui avait livré les poils pubiens de l'une de ses filles à l'ambassadeur de France, en 1990, en vue de soutirer un poste sénatorial ? [/size]



Est-ce Serge Giles,
en compagnie d' Evans Paul, soit le 12 janvier 2003, celui qui avait
trahi ses camarades de la Convergence en rencontrant secrètement
Jean-Bertrand Aristide à la Nonciature en échange d'un maudite poste
de Premier Ministre, dont le secret était dévoilé presque
instantanément?




Aujourd'hui
plus que jamais, le peuple haïtien a fondamentalement besoin d'être
dirigé, mais pas par n'importe qui. Même dans un foyer, le père doit
être à la hauteur de sa responsabilité de chef de famille pour que sa
femme et ses enfants soient heureux. Vous montrer digne d'une telle
confiance est une lourde responsabilité , n'est-ce pas vrais Serge Giles?




Et quand nous examinons les qualités des chefs ou politiciens classiques, nous apercevons que Serge Giles,
surpasse de loin ce que le monde civilisé attend du dirigeant idéal.
C'est un cambrioleur qui sévit en plein jour et qui devrait être
proscrit de tout citoyen se voulant moral. C'est un loups en vêtement
de brebis, un précieux outil de complot, un traître qui cache aux gens
ses intentions et ses desseins. Il est l'un des sous-hommes les plus
manipulables qui soient en Haiti. René Preval et Jean-Bertrand Aristide le manipuleront et il s’y soumettra.




Quels changements apporterait- Serge Giles à
la nation haïtienne en qualité de Premier Ministre dont ses actes et
ses agissements n'ont rien à voir avec la pureté et la blancheur de
l'hostie, donc du sacré ? Pa fem pale!




Serge Giles, donnez-nous vos parcours et bilan ?





Reginald Pean

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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 9:48

Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:depi se youn bon Ti zann ki pou fè mwen fè bon dijestyon de sa wap pale yo map pran youn vè kan menm ;men tou ou pap banm bwè oken gwog magog komsi ou vle dim se preval ak Aristide ki responsab desas saa.Si sete Pitit tig la nou ta nan eldorado jodya, se gwog saa mwen pa vle ou fè m vale l.Apre sa depi se bon jan ti zann wap ba pep la map toujou felisite w.

Malis kom wou ginlè pi mathon nan lang blan an, poudat wou bay talon w sou tè Ayiti Tonma Dessalines nan.
Nan ti lèt fin blan an KINBÉ SA-A POU WOU TOUJOU PISKÉ WOU PA PRAN PAWOL DOUB LA POU PO PATAT. MWEN KWÈ SÉ MOUN OKAP WOU YÉ TOU..SÉ LA-A RO DI KAP_AVAN PRAN PRAN BARIÈ BOUTEY_APRÈW PASSÉ VERTIÈRES_LOMBRIK_LA_ANTÉRÉ.

30 Years Ago Haiti Grew All the Rice It Needed. What Happened?

The U.S. Role in Haiti’s Food Riots

By BILL QUIGLEY



Riots in Haiti over explosive rises in food costs have claimed the lives of six people. There have also been food riots world-wide in Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cote d’Ivorie, Egypt, Guinea, Mauritania, Mexico, Morocco, Senegal, Uzbekistan and Yemen.



The Economist, which calls the current crisis the silent tsunami, reports that last year wheat prices rose 77% and rice 16%, but since January rice prices have risen 141%. The reasons include rising fuel costs, weather problems, increased demand in China and India , as well as the push to create bio fuels from cereal crops.

Hermite Joseph, a mother working in the markets of Port au Prince, told journalist Nick Whalen that her two kids are “like toothpicks” they’ re not getting enough nourishment. Before, if you had a dollar twenty-five cents, you could buy vegetables, some rice, 10 cents of charcoal and a little cooking oil. Right now, a little can of rice alone costs 65 cents, and is not good rice at all. Oil is 25 cents. Charcoal is 25 cents. With a dollar twenty-five, you can't even make a plate of rice for one child.”



The St. Claire’s Church Food program, in the Tiplas Kazo neighborhood of Port au Prince, serves 1000 free meals a day, almost all to hungry children -- five times a week in partnership with the What If Foundation. Children from Cite Soleil have been known to walk the five miles to the church for a meal. The cost of rice, beans, vegetables, a little meat, spices, cooking oil, propane for the stoves, have gone up dramatically. Because of the rise in the cost of food, the portions are now smaller. But hunger is on the rise and more and more children come for the free meal. Hungry adults used to be allowed to eat the leftovers once all the children were fed, but now there are few leftovers.



The New York Times lectured Haiti on April 18 that “ Haiti , its agriculture industry in shambles, needs to better feed itself.” Unfortunately, the article did not talk at all about one of the main causes of the shortages -- the fact that the U.S. and other international financial bodies destroyed Haitian rice farmers to create a major market for the heavily subsidized rice from U.S. farmers. This is not the only cause of hunger in Haiti and other poor countries, but it is a major force.

Thirty years ago, Haiti raised nearly all the rice it needed. What happened?

In 1986, after the expulsion of Haitian dictator Jean Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier the International Monetary Fund (IMF) loaned Haiti $24.6 million in desperately needed funds (Baby Doc had raided the treasury on the way out). But, in order to get the IMF loan, Haiti was required to reduce tariff protections for their Haitian rice and other agricultural products and some industries to open up the country’s markets to competition from outside countries. The U.S. has by far the largest voice in decisions of the IMF.



Doctor Paul Farmer was in Haiti then and saw what happened.Within less than two years, it became impossible for Haitian farmers to compete with what they called ‘ Miami rice.’ The whole local rice market in Haiti fell apart as cheap, U.S. subsidized rice, some of it in the form of ‘food aid,’ flooded the market. There was violence, ‘rice wars,’ and lives were lost.”



“American rice invaded the country,” recalled Charles Suffrard, a leading rice grower in Haiti in an interview with the Washington Post in 2000. By 1987 and 1988, there was so much rice coming into the country that many stopped working the land.

Fr. Gerard Jean-Juste, a Haitian priest who has been the pastor at St. Claire and an outspoken human rights advocate, agrees. “In the 1980s, imported rice poured into Haiti , below the cost of what our farmers could produce it. Farmers lost their businesses. People from the countryside started losing their jobs and moving to the cities. After a few years of cheap imported rice, local production went way down.”

Still the international business community was not satisfied. In 1994, as a condition for U.S. assistance in returning to Haiti to resume his elected Presidency, Jean-Bertrand Aristide was forced by the U.S. , the IMF, and the World Bank to open up the markets in Haiti even more.



But, Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere, what reason could the U.S. have in destroying the rice market of this tiny country?



Haiti is definitely poor. The U.S. Agency for International Development reports the annual per capita income is less than $400. The United Nations reports life expectancy in Haiti is 59, while in the US it is 78. Over 78% of Haitians live on less than $2 a day, more than half live on less than $1 a day.



Yet Haiti has become one of the very top importers of rice from the U.S. The U.S. Department of Agriculture 2008 numbers show Haiti is the third largest importer of US rice - at over 240,000 metric tons of rice. (One metric ton is 2200 pounds).

Rice is a heavily subsidized business in the U.S. Rice subsidies in the U.S. totaled $11 billion from 1995 to 2006. One producer alone, Riceland Foods Inc of Stuttgart Arkansas , received over $500 million dollars in rice subsidies between 1995 and 2006.



The Cato Institute recently reported that rice is one of the most heavily supported commodities in the U.S. -- with three different subsidies together averaging over $1 billion a year since 1998 and projected to average over $700 million a year through 2015. The result? “Tens of millions of rice farmers in poor countries find it hard to lift their families out of poverty because of the lower, more volatile prices caused by the interventionist policies of other countries.”




In addition to three different subsidies for rice farmers in the U.S., there are also direct tariff barriers of 3 to 24 percent
, reports Daniel Griswold of the Cato Institute -- the exact same type of protections, though much higher, that the U.S. and the IMF required Haiti to eliminate in the 1980s and 1990s.



U.S. protection for rice farmers goes even further. A 2006 story in the Washington Post found that the federal government has paid at least $1.3 billion in subsidies for rice and other crops since 2000 to individuals who do no farming at all; including $490,000 to a Houston surgeon who owned land near Houston that once grew rice.

And it is not only the Haitian rice farmers who have been hurt.



Paul Farmer saw it happen to the sugar growers as well.Haiti , once the world's largest exporter of sugar and other tropical produce to Europe, began importing even sugar-- from U.S. controlled sugar production in the Dominican Republic and Florida . It was terrible to see Haitian farmers put out of work. All this sped up the downward spiral that led to this month's food riots.”



After the riots and protests, President Rene Preval of Haiti agreed to reduce the price of rice, which was selling for $51 for a 110 pound bag, to $43 dollars for the next month. No one thinks a one month fix will do anything but delay the severe hunger pains a few weeks.



Haiti is far from alone in this crisis. The Economist reports a billion people worldwide live on $1 a day. The US-backed Voice of America reports about 850 million people were suffering from hunger worldwide before the latest round of price increases.

Thirty three countries are at risk of social upheaval because of rising food prices, World Bank President Robert Zoellick told the Wall Street Journal. When countries have many people who spend half to three-quarters of their daily income on food, “there is no margin of survival.”



In the U.S. , people are feeling the world-wide problems at the gas pump and in the grocery. Middle class people may cut back on extra trips or on high price cuts of meat. The number of people on food stamps in the US is at an all-time high. But in poor countries, where malnutrition and hunger were widespread before the rise in prices, there is nothing to cut back on except eating. That leads to hunger riots.

In the short term, the world community is sending bags of rice to Haiti . Venezuela sent 350 tons of food. The US just pledged $200 million extra for worldwide hunger relief. The UN is committed to distributing more food.



What can be done in the medium term? The US provides much of the world’s food aid, but does it in such a way that only half of the dollars spent actually reach hungry people. US law requires that food aid be purchased from US farmers, processed and bagged in the US and shipped on US vessels -- which cost 50% of the money allocated. A simple change in US law to allow some local purchase of commodities would feed many more people and support local farm markets.



In the long run, what is to be done? The President of Brazil, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who visited Haiti last week, said “Rich countries need to reduce farms subsidies and trade barriers to allow poor countries to generate income with food exports. Either the world solves the unfair trade system, or every time there's unrest like in Haiti , we adopt emergency measures and send a little bit of food to temporarily ease hunger."



Citizens of the USA know very little about the role of their government in helping create the hunger problems in Haiti or other countries. But there is much that individuals can do. People can donate to help feed individual hungry people and participate with advocacy organizations like Bread for the World or Oxfam to help change the U.S. and global rules which favor the rich countries. This advocacy can help countries have a better chance to feed themselves.



Meanwhile, Merisma Jean-Claudel, a young high school graduate in Port-au-Prince told journalist Wadner Pierre "...people can't buy food. Gasoline prices are going up. It is very hard for us over here. The cost of living is the biggest worry for us, no peace in stomach means no peace in the mind. I wonder if others will be able to survive the days ahead because things are very, very hard."



“On the ground, people are very hungry,” reported Fr. Jean-Juste. “Our country must immediately open emergency canteens to feed the hungry until we can get them jobs. For the long run, we need to invest in irrigation, transportation, and other assistance for our farmers and workers.”



In Port au Prince, some rice arrived in the last few days. A school in Fr. Jean-Juste’s parish received several bags of rice. They had raw rice for 1000 children, but the principal still had to come to Father Jean-Juste asking for help. There was no money for charcoal, or oil.



Jervais Rodman, an unemployed carpenter with three children, stood in a long line Saturday in Port au Prince to get UN donated rice and beans. When Rodman got the small bags, he told Ben Fox of the Associated Press, “The beans might last four days. The rice will be gone as soon as I get home.”



Bill Quigley is a human rights lawyer and law professor at Loyola University New Orleans . He can be reached at quigley77@gmail.com People interested in donating to feed children in Haiti should go to http://www.whatiffoundation.org/

People who want to help change U.S. policy on agriculture to help combat world-wide hunger should go to:
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/ or http://www.bread.org/


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Bon gen lè mwen twonpe moun ke mwen te kwè ki te pran pseudo Doub -Sossis la gen lè se pa li paske mwen konnen li se fanatik Serge Gilles.Anmweeeee a ba tout kandida pou pos Premye minis ki vle fè youn kout volò tou. An 46 pep la te genyen youn ti chante ki te di :Salnave kandida tout volò yo kandida.Anmweeeee ab tout kanida pou pos Senatè nou pa beswen tout Senatè sa yo.bann san wont mnayè al travay la tè, al fè elevaj ,la pech pou nou ba pep la manje pou grangou klorox pa ekstermine yo tout. Fout moun repo yo ak vye pos initil A ba Serge Gilles depi komanse jodya. li fout konnen byen li pa ka fè anyen pou soulaje misè pep la.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 10:44

To blame the U.S. government for the hunger that is killing the people of the third world countries because it helps its rice grower so they can feed the citizens of the U.S. is ,in my opinion, a hypocrisy;for the role of any government is to secure the necessary ressources to provide a decent living for its people.There is a little country in the carribean that does not confront the same problem;Why?Its leaders do not receive any instructions from the IMF and the World bank.They do what is necessary for their people to live decently .

If one buys a bad car from a dishonest used car dealer you are to blame particularly if you were mislead before.The united states govenrment did not put a gun in the head of President Aristide to sign the treaty with the IMF.why could they not ask Castro to do the same?

It was not only the importation of rice from the United states that destroy the haitians growers ;one has to consider with the explosion of the population the haitian growers could not statisfy the demand because the government did not help them.The poiticians prefered to divide the countries in 10 departments in order to create more jobs for politicians instead of insvesting in agricultural production.Anybody with common sense could understand that the land wich is ruined by deforestation could not feed 8.5 millyon people without a massive regeneration plan ,an enrgy policy and agricultural reform.

In 1980 the population of haiti was not 8.5 milion people.The country was not a desert yet.the massive exodus of the peasants toward the ghettos of the cities started long before .One has to remember the exodus of the haitian peasants toward Cuba and the Dominican republic in the 30's.Today these peasants who stay in Cuba do not have to suffer the hunger pranks of the members of their families who stay in haiti;Why?

I am tired of blaming the United Sates for the bad policies of the haitians and third world coutries politicians.The role of the U.S. government is to defend the interests of its people.why can't the haitian politicians say" we're not accepting the policies of the IMF and the World bank because they are not in our interests.If they are so corrupt that they accept any proposition in order to obtain funds that they can send to their bank accounts overseas; whereas the people are starving to death one can not blame the United states government for that.These pliticians have to be put on trial so they can restitute the money they stole from the treasury of their countries.Corruption, bad policies ,instability are the main causes of this disaster.

Blaming the United States government instead of the politicians who adhered to these contracts with the IMF and the World bank one is working to perpetuate the same conditions that is so detrimental to the well- being of the majority of the people of these countries.
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Malis nan tout saw dila nan lang blan an sé yon sèl bagay ki kanpé sou dé pié militèl men li:

''The united states govenrment did not put a gun
in the head of President Aristide to sign the treaty with the IMF.why
could they not ask Castro to do the same? (Malis)''

-Zafè tout péyi gen dwa sibvantioné agrikilti lakay li sé vré.
Sempman gen dè ako intenasional ki fèt pou réspékté,
gen yon jan poul fèt, oupanka ap simen grangou klorox..
Touyé moun...Pou DAN RI

Men loské sé yon séri dé gwo lobby
kap pawézé pou simen grangou klorox
Épi yo jwen tinèg ak sô YaYa granjipon
ap kassé plim poul nan zorey César
pou bayo jarrèt
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Message  Joel Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 12:10

Yon sèl bagay mwen pa fin dakò sou bagay sa a ,se zafè ke yo pa t mete yon kouto sou gagann Aristide pou l te aksepte kondisyon yo.

Dapre NOAM CHOMSKY,yon nonm ki ka konnen plis pase tout lòt moun kouman politik etranjè meriken fonksyone ,misye di te gen yon sòt de kouto yo te mete anba gòj Aristide pou li aksepte kondisyon yo.

Misye te di e sete depi anvan Aristide tounen ;represyon FRAPH LAN,KE CIA te òganize se te pou mete Aristide anba mi an.
Se pou te di l ,ke ouswa li aksepte kondisyon ou byen represyon kont òganizasyon popilè yo ap kontinye e si li pa ta aksepte ,represyon FRAPH lan ap kontinye e toutotan li ta refize ,demantèlman òganizasyon popilè yo ap kontinye.
Yo menm di nèg ki te an chay CIA pou Ayiti an,yon nèg ki te rele DEMEJIAN te menm di "repression works".
Sa vle di moun ki prese pou yo te kondane Aristide yo,pa prese,paske si misye pa t aksepte sèten kondisyon ;se pa 3 mil ou byen 5 mil moun ki t ap mouri;se ta k ap 30 mil ou 50 mil e nou te ka vin gen yon peyi tankou Guatemala kote Lame an ap klas dominant lan ap dirije peyi an anba,anba ;menm si gen lòt moun ki eli sou pouvwa a.
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Doub-Sossis,

Il était question que vous alliez reproduire le style de Maurice Sixto. Mais, en reproduisant le style de Bicha et Papa Piè, l'art devient grotesque et l'humour n'y est plus.

Bref! Revenons à nos moutons.

Le FMI est-il le problème?

RD n'arrive-t-elle pas à se débrouiller en dépit des contraintes de la FMI?
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Message  Doub-Sossis Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 12:32

Colo sé pa fot mwen si w pa kon between wou?

mwen rémaké sé toujou an fransé
wap téké bo ron nan
siw pa kanzo pran ti natte wou mon frè

batwèl ki lan men Èzili-jé rouj-la
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Message  Invité Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 12:44

Doub-Sossis a écrit:Colo sé pa fot mwen si w pa kon between wou?

mwen rémaké sé toujou an fransé
wap téké bo ron nan
siw pa kanzo pran ti natte wou mon frè

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Li ka lave rad Loulou tou..
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L'haitien a le droit de s'exprimer dans l'une des 2 langues officielles du pays et moi je choisis le francais. Comme un grand admirateur de Maurice Sixto qui a surtout écrit en créole, je n'ai rien contre cette langue. D'ailleurs, je vous ai vivement applaudis quand vous avez fait choix d'imiter ce grand humouriste de notre littérature.

Mais j'ai profité aussi pour faire ressortir la différence entre ce dernier et des ratés comme Bicha ou autres.

Pour finir, il faut retenir que ce n'est pas une langue qui va définir un grand orateur et écrivain. Si tel était le cas, Aristide, s'exprimant surtout en créole, n'aurait pas une plus grande audience que les Manigats qui sont très habiles en francais.
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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 27 Avr 2008 - 12:57

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Ou konnen byen pase mwen ke se pa nan premye peyi ke CIA ki se youn eta nan leta peye mèsenè pou destabilize gouvenman pwogresis yo. Se pa selman pran pouvwa ki enpotan fok ou organize w de fason pou ka konserve pouvwa la si w vle fè refom ki enpotan yo.Se pa Jodya yap organise mouvman pou yo ranverse castro poukisa yo pa reyisi?Youn moun pa dwe chache pouvwa selman fok ou kapab fè youn bagay ak pouvwa la.fok ou ka defann enterè peyi w.nanpren moun ki ap banm de gouden jodya epi pou rann mwen esklav demen poum aksepte l menm si grangou ap pete fyel mwen.la vi san diyite pou mwen pa genyen oken valè.

Se sak fè mwen di mwen pa ka blame ameriken pou tout vye bagay ke politisyen ayisyen fè.ameriken mete enstitutyon nan peyi li ki pou pwoteje enterè li se devwa lot gouvenman lot peyi pou yo fè plan pou yo pwoteje enterè pa yo pou demen nou pap di se pa nou se yo.fok timid moun san GNB yo manyè rete lakay yo.sak merite fet an ayiti si youn moun pa genyen youn kalbas nan mitan janm ou se rete lakay ou.

colo poze youn bel kestyon ki jan fè repiblik dominiken li menm pap konfronte menm pwoblem la malgre kontrent FMI?mwen sonje ke yo di jis balager tap mouri se youn vye chevrolet ki genyen plis pase di zan ke li tap servi,tandis ke latortue pat pase men 2 zan o pouvwa li te vle se 2 lexus pou gouvenman an te achte pou li poul te gaye banda nan florida. chak direktè jeneral ayisyen se machinn 50000 dola yap kouri san kote sa ki o servis madanm yo.Alò se koriptyon sa yo ki fè mwen di mwen pa ka ba meriken responsabilite move zak ke politisyen ayisyen ap komet kont peyi yo.Aristide se kay youn milyon dola li tap achte pou Premye Minis.

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