Pwodiktè blan pa vle finanse fim "Tousen Louvèti" a

Sunday July 27, 2008 10:18 AM ET

Toussaint Louverture, No White Hero, No Movie?

What? The Hero is Black?
The Hero is Haitian?

Look up in the sky!
It's a bird!
It's a plane!

Oh No! It's Toussaint! Toussaint Breda!

Some call him Toussaint L'Ouverture, others call him The Black Napoleon.

It's Toussaint, the little self educated black Haitian slave with no military experience who beat the living crap out of the white Emperor of the French, the white King of Italy, the white mediator of the Swiss Confederation, The white protector of the Confederation of the Rhine, The great and white Napoleon Bonaparte!

What the hero is a Black man? Hell No!

"It's a nice project, a great project... but... where are the white heroes?"

This is what the producers are asking American actor Danny Glover who is planning to shoot an epic black movie next year about the great Toussaint L'Ouverture.

"Toussaint," scheduled to be shot in Venezuela early next year, will star Don Cheadle, Mos Def, Wesley Snipes and Angela Bassett.

"The first question you get," Danny says to the press in Paris " is 'Is it a black film?' All of them agree, it's not going to do good in Europe, it's not going to do good in Japan... Somebody has to prove that to be a lie! Maybe I'll have the chance to prove it."

Apparently, this time the hero is a black man,

"Toussaint" is about Francois Dominique Toussaint Louverture (1743-1803), the Haitian slave who defeated Napoleon Bonaparte.

What? The Hero Is Black?

Toussaint Louverture, the first black leader in the western Hemisphere, is a former Haitian slave and one of the fathers of Haiti's independence from France in 1804, making it the first black nation to throw off imperial rule and become a republic.

This is Danny Glover's first project as a movie director and it is not a tiny movie, it is an epic film. An epic film is among the most expensive of films to produce.

When the hero is a White Man!

A good example of an epic war movie is Troy, an epic movie about the Trojan war. The only difference is the hero is Achilles, a white man, played by Brad Pitt.

Troy was nominated for an Oscar, it won 3 awards including the ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards, and was nominated 17 more awards including the Awards of the Japanese Academy.

Now the hero is a Black man, Can they dig it!

Haiti has been, for a long time, paying the price for standing up for liberty.

Haiti has been, for a long time, ignored and isolated for forcing the white man to lay down his whip and learn to respect the black man.

Haiti has been, for a long time, a threat to the world order for allowing the black man to stare at the white man in the eye as his equal.

Out of Haiti, the black Mecca, the single place on earth that every black man should visit at least once in their lifetime, which has for a long time been misrepresented and stereotyped as "The Poorest," a negative ad campaign set up to associate "BLACK" with "POOREST", was born a hero and the greatest black story ever told.

Now the question is: Can white movie goers sit in a movie theater and watch the black hero defeat the one of the greatest French generals who ever lived?

This is not science fiction, it is a true story.

The producers say "no way, not without a white hero!" This is the status quo, this is the world order, but NOT according to Haitian history books!

What do you say?

Mr. Danny Glover, go for it, do it, this great Haitian story has been buried for too long.

It would be a shame for millions of haitians ,afro americans, and africans all over the world for a black movie producer to ask a white man's approval to produce a movie that shows the determination fo an ex slave to free his people.Who are we?Mr. Danny Glover does not need a white audience for this film.We ,the people of african ascendant should finance the movie even if it does not realize any profit.

Did the white men ask for our approval to produce Spartacus?Why then do we have to ask for the approval of the Europeans to produce a movie that shows the courage of an almost illeterate slave who was determined to free his people by all means necessary,and who was arrested by the french ,the people who claim to be the inspirators of the human rights declarations and the french revolution which was the path for freedom, equality and brotherhood for all men and women.

Mr. Glover should ask all the actors to help him produce this movie.I am sure Miss Oprah Winfrey,Sidney Poitier , Harry belafonte, Bill Crosby, will not hesistate to contribute for its production.Haitans should contribute also for the realisation of this movie.Come on people,no white man will write our history for us.Isn't it time we start writing our own history?I beg Mr. Glover to do all that is possible to produce this movie.We do not need white men to finance this movie.

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Je ne suis pas riche ,mais je suis pret à cotiser dans la mesure de mes moyens pour les causes nobles.Je trouve indecent qu'un noir sollicite l'aide des blancs pour une entreprise d'une telle envergure,Se pa sel pale anpil mwen fè,lè tout moun vle mete men a la patte map toujou reponn presan wi depi se pou youn bagy serye.

:elephant:

pwojè saa regade tout nwa ke se sa ki an afirk, ke se sa ki nan karayib la ,ke se sa ki an erop ,nan amerik latinn ,amerik di Nor ,ou an amerik di sid .se tout dyapora a net ki pou fè men anpil chaj pa lou pou ba danny Glover bourad.Yè map gade youn ti dokimantè swa karl ou byen colo te mete pou montre kote la Nubie situye e ki sa pharaon nwa yo te reyalise. fok ekriven nou yo , sineyast, istoryen nou yo ,ekri ,montre ki sa ke lafrik te ye anvan,se pa pou nou kite se blan rasis selman ki apekri istwa nou pou nou ;montre ke se sida ,la fen ki ap devore tout moun an afrik. ke nou pa janm reyalise anyen.

mwen sonje youn fwa mal fè youn chek up nan youn klinik , genyen youn miss blanche ki ap pale ak youn jenn doktè koreyen ,mwen fè komsi mwen pap koute konversatyon a ;doktè koreyen mande misss la men ki sa youn janm fè pou yo vle moun respekte yo.Alor se iyorans sa yo pou nou konbat ,pou nou montre te genyen youn sivilisatyon an afrik kote te genyen universite e modernite anvan negrye yo te rantre al antreprann vye komers sal saa ke yo rele esklavaj.se yo kom barbar ki pou wont se pa nou.

Revelasyon,

Sispann deraye.
De kisa wa p akize m lè w di sa pa etone w mwen pa di vre rezon?

Lè yon nèg poste yon atik, se sa l fè selmèn. Li pa oblije bay yon opinyon.
Se lot moun ki li atik la ki pou fè komantè si yo vle.

Oumenm, si w pa gen yon komantè valid, pa di anyen, paske wa p pèdi kredibilite lè wa p voye monte.

Mwen menm mwen pa fouti konprann sa de nèg vle di.
Tankou ,gen yon seri denèg lan gè Toussaint kont Rigaud an ,petèt se Rigaud yo ta prefere ki genyen e nan ka sa a ,ti nèg ta rantre lan 20yèm syèk lan kòm esklav;e ke yo paka konprann ke Napoleon pa t nan zafè nèg nwa ak milat limenm;li pa t lan zafè moun lib ak esklav.

Si Napoleon te genyen gè an ,ou te mèt milat (quarteron tankou yo di) ou byen nwa koulè digo ;yo t ap mete tout moun lan esklavay.

E moun ki ap di ke Tousen se te jeneral franse li te ye ,se pa paske blan franse jounen jodi an ap di sa ke se sa se vre.

Napoleon te pran yon dekrè enperyal an fevriye 1802 ki espesifye ke si ou se yon nwa ou byen ke ou gen san nwa lan venn ou ,ou pa ka sitwayen franse.
Misye te pran dekrè sa a espesifikman pou l kraze bagay nwa lib ak milat lib lan ;pou l te sa remete tout moun lan esklavay.
Se sa li te fè lan Guadeloupe ak Matinik apre li te kraze rebelyon lan zile sa a .Apre yo fin masakre gason ,timoun ak fanm;misye remete tout moun lan esklavay!

TOUSSAINT LOUVERTURE pa t mouri sitwayen franse!

Yon lòt bagay gen anpil nèg ki ap kritike DANNY GLOVER ,mwen tande Lisifè yo rele STANLEY LUCAS fè l,se pou 2 rezon ,se paske Danny Glover te pwòch de Aristide e tou sè ke gouvènman Venezuela dèyè pou l finanse film lan!

Revelatyon

lè w di youn moun di youn bagay ki absurd fok ou te konprann sa li di ya byen pou sa w di ya ta gen valè.Finanse yo entrepriz konsa pa vle di ke mwen di moun pral fè pwofi,ou di youn moun tankoum ki konn valè lajan pat dwe di youn bagay konsa e mwen byen di menm si film lan pa reyalize oken pwofi se devwa diaspora et tout neg an jeneral ,pa wou evidemman ,ke nou ede Danny Glover reyalise youn film ki rakonte vi Toussaint Louverture ki se premye moun ki te komanse lite pou liberte esklav yo an ayiti.Petet men jan ak doub la ki vle mwen di ke Dessalines se youn vagabon ou vle ke mwen denigre Toussaint tou?

mwen pa kwè genyen youn ameriken ki li blan ke li nwa ki ta kont youn prodiktè ki ta vle pale de Georges washington.Se bagay saa ke jean Ertich ap pale ya :hair tiens.e se sa Jude te ekri ya;L'origine de la haine est la haine de ses origines.Tonnè de Dye pafwa nou fout degoutan vre wi.

Malis,

HBO te pwodwi yon epik sou GEORGE WASHINGTON.Se chèn HBO an sèlman ki te montre l isit OZETAZINI e yo te vann li bay televizyon Ewopeyen yo.

Ke yon moun di m si yo te wè anyen negatif ki te di sou Washington lan pwodiksyon sa a.Antouka mwen pa t wè anyen de sa.

Se tout tan ya p montre pwodiksyon sou vi Napoleon.Mwen garanti w ou pa p jwenn anpil bagay ditou negatif sou vi misye lan pwodiksyon sa yo.
Si yo ta montre misye sou tout aspè pozitif oubyen negatif li,mwen garanti w franse yo t ap mande anraje!

Joel

Lè wap li sa de twa ayisyen ekri wap mande si yo te apresye "Root" epik ke ABC te montre nan television ke Alex Haley te ekri e pwodwi ya.Wap mande si yo te janm wè ;"The color purple."

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Je ti neg yo telman bouche yo pa we ke se sevi ke mesye sa yo ap sevi ak hero ayisyen nou yo pou yo fe propaganda anti-imperialist.

Men si ke mwen pa dako avek opinion nou, men sepandan mwen respekte ‘l.
Opinyon pam seke se pa Danny Glover, ni Hollywood, ni Weslley Snipe, ni Eddy Murphy ke mwen ta remen we nan zafe Toussaint sa. Safe cowboy ak indien, nwa kont blan etc,
mwen pa fe Hollywood konfyans pou rakonte istwa hero nou.
Sa ke mwen ta remen we se yon bel expozisyon sou la vie de Toussaint L’Ouverture nan Smithsothian nan Washington, DC.
Mwen ta remen we konferans e dokimante kote anpil historyen, libreryen, recherche, anpil artifak sou Toussaint kote tout moun ayisyen kou etranje ki konnen epoq sa pou pale de sa.
Mwen ta remen ke libreri la frans, anglete, espanyol, library of Congress ameriken e tout lot peyi yo ki gen artifak sou la vie de Toussaint pou yo vide dokiman sayo sou nou .

Mwen ta remen we yon bon dokimante sou la vie roi Henry Christophe.
Ki kote ke li fet, si li te vremen patisipe nan batay Savannah,
Ki l’age ke li te genyen le sa.
Le li te kourone tet li roi, ki architek ki te dessine Citadel Laferriere e palais San Sousi ak 365 pot ladan.
Konbyen tan sa te pran poul bati, konbyen moun ki mouri.
Pou kisa se toujou empire avek rwayum ki vinn nan tet yo olye de republik.
Gen anpil bel bagay ke mwen ta remen we sou peyi’m men se pa nan cinema.
Men zafe cinema son Toussaint e lot hero nou yo, mwen pap menm bay $10.00 pou’l entre algade film.

Gouvenman Venezuelyen Chavez la nan fe propaganda bay Dannie Glover $18 million dolla pou zafe film sa e pep venezuelyen mande anraje sou zafe sa e yo ta remen ke plis ke mwatye lajan pou film nan depanse o Venezuela e fet avek akte venezuelyen.

Gen moun ki remen al nan museum ak tehat, gen lot se yon bon film ki fe yo plezi.
Chak moun we bagay yo dapre nivo d’espri yo, e dapre intere yo. Joure, di betiz, e etake moun pap menen nou oken kote.

Revelasyon

Ou pa ta renmen se Alex haley ki pwodwi e ekri"Root"tou ou ta pito se youn blan je vert ki ba w bonkou manti.Ou pa dwe renmen ke se oprah Winfrey ki mete The Color Purple nan teyat sou Broadway. fè youn kout pye al wè cho saa si li ap pase washington konsa wa konprann demarch Danny Glover la pi byen.Lè Chavez ap ba nou ed epi li ap finanse pwogramm saa se rekonesans li genyen anver ero nou yo. li se youn nonm ki konn istwa peyi li.Nou fout kritike menm moun ki ap fè nou byen.

Aloske, poukisa pou pwodikte blan yo ta finanse fim Tousen Louveti ya? Daye, neg sa yo se lajan yo y'ap defann. Epi, depi kile blan te konn niche bounda neg. Pami tout milyone Ayisyen ki gen dan lemond, pami tout neg nwa ki milti milyone ki ekziste, poukisa se blan yo ki ta pou finanse 'Lom nwa di 19 syek"
Nou blye lan ki kondisyon ke Spike Lee te fini fim MALCOLM X la?

Chavez se pa pale selman li pale li mete lajan l kote bouch li ye.Li pa bay nan youn men e pran lajan an nan lot men.depi youn moun ap ede pov lakay li nou toujou rayi yo.kouri sere deyè youn fo patriyotism pou nou kache enn nou.menm jan mwen renmen Bill gates ,Warren buffet , ted Turner ,Georges Soros ,Bill Clinton se konsa mwen renmen Chavez tou.montre m sa Dick Cheney fè pou limanite.kestyon kominis ,kapitalis mwen pa kwè nan oken isme .mwen kwè nan solidarite ant tout moun, mwen kwè nan charite, nan konpasyon pou sa ki ap soufri.

Ed428 di:

Aloske, poukisa pou pwodikte blan yo ta finanse fim Tousen Louveti ya? Daye, neg sa yo se lajan yo y'ap defann. Epi, depi kile blan te konn niche bounda neg. Pami tout milyone Ayisyen ki gen dan lemond, pami tout neg nwa ki milti milyone ki ekziste, poukisa se blan yo ki ta pou finanse 'Lom nwa di 19 syek"
Nou blye lan ki kondisyon ke Spike Lee te fini fim MALCOLM X la?

Ed428 tout se bel questyon ke w poze la.
Malerezman, anpil lot neg sou Forum nan pa poze tet yo kestyon sa yo.
Yo vle se blan ki pou finanse film Toussaint an.
blan di ke li pap pran chans investi nan produksyon Toussaint sa paske Danny Glover se yon akte li ye se premye fwa ke li pral chita komm direkte pou dirije film sa.

Si Danny te vle jwe rol Toussaint an film nan te kap gen plis kredibilite paske Danny se yon bon akte ki pran anpil prix e Oscar..

Deziemman, sikse film nan an grandparti fet pou repoze sou karakte e personalite personnaj Toussaint e visyon ke li te gennyen pou avni ras nwa nan Amerik la.
Men Danny ak Chavez e lot liberalist yo vle profite de film sa pou yo represente Toussaint komm yo karakte chef nwa kap touye blan. Yon robin Hood nwa, yon neg kap proteje defavorize kont malfini anraje.

Men nou men Ayisyen, se pa sa nou vle nan plin 21th siekl sa kote Barrack Obama represente yon espwa pou l’himanite e pou tout ras an general.
Nou ta remen we yon bon dokimante sou la vi Toussaint ki montre vre visaj li depi ke li piti jiskaske li mouri. E apre dokimante sa anpil istoryen e libreryen bay opinyon yo e benefis karakte Toussaint dans le mond.

Paske si nou gade byen Toussaint c’est du deja vue » car les grands leaders de ce monde comme Jules Caesar, Alexandre le grand, Zaka Zoulou, Kenyatta, Nelson Mandela, Spartacus, Toussaint se réincarnent et prennent naissance un peu partout dans le monde quelque soit la couleur de leur peau.
Se pa koule Toussaint pou nou glorifye, men se karakte neg la.
Sispand fe politik kan nap di ke pagen blan hero nan film nan se sak fe ke blan pavle finanse film nan. Se pa vre ditou. Investisman se investisman!! Fe la charit se fe la charit!!
Si sete vre a 100 pou 100 pou kisa kontinan l’Afrik la pa bay Danny yon ti kichoy ??
Sam di yo pa jamb a 100 pou 100 vre, men fok nou poze tet nou anpil kestyon avan ke nou pote yon jijman sou yon sije konsa.

Revelasyon

:elephant:

Revelasyon,

Pale sa w konnen.
Pa pale sa w pa konnen.
Si w bezwen konnen, mande enfomasyon.

Jan w pale a se komsi ou konnen senaryo fim nan: Kijan w fè konnen ke fim nan pa baze sou karaktè Tousen men se sou koule li fim nan baze?

Ki kote w jwenn pawol Grover ak Chavez vle sèvi ak fim nan pou reprezente Tousen kom chef nwa ka p touye blan an?

Ki kote w wè ke pwodiktè blan yo di ke Danny Grover pa kalifye pou li pwoduy yon fim e se sak fè yo pavle finanse l?

Kilès ki di w se premye fim nèg la pwoduy?

Eske w konnen ke finansman fim fèt pa yon seri de pwodiktè, devlopè, envestisè.
Se pa yon kestyon de blan sèlman, men se Danny Grover menm ki di yo mande l kote ero blan yo?
Menmjan blan pat vle rekonèt endepandans Ayiti pou yo pa bay nèg kredi pou yon viktwa kont blan epi pou yo pa bay nèg ki anba yo movèz ekzanp.

Tousen merite glorifye lan tout nivo, sitou se pou ayisyen glorifye li kom ayisyen dabo epi kom gran nèg inivesel.

Gen lot ero sou planèt la, men pa genyen youn ki kapab konpare avek Tousen.

Danny Glover's Haiti Film Postponed

Caracas, Aug 12 (Prensa Latina) Venezuela has postponed for 2009 the shooting of a film on Haitian independence hero Toussaint-Louverture, which is to be directed by American actor Danny Glover.


According to Villa del Cine chairwoman Lorena Almarza there is prejudice by US and European producers, who have not contributed the money.



Venezuela would contribute 3.8 million dollars, which were approved by the National Assembly.



In statements to the Bolivarian News Agency, Almarza pointed out that the script remains unchanged, as well as production agreements in the country, with participation of 50 percent of Venezuelan professional, technical or artistic personnel.



The agreement says that 30 percent of the cast and 100 percent of the extras will be Venezuelan.



Almarza added that big producers are not interested in producing a film dealing with an anti-slavery movement.



Glover himself admitted he is having problems to raise funds, because big producers are complaining about "Toussaint" being "a black film."



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Mezanmi mwen pa sineast ,ni metè an sènn men poukisa youn film ki montre vi e zev Toussaint beswen finansman blan pou li realize?Mwen pa konnen konbyen lajan Danny Glover beswen ,men mezanmi si nwa te genyen tet ansanb poukisa menm se lajan ki pou anpeche fim saa reyalise.se bagay saa ke nou genyen lakay nou ki fè lot moun meprise nou ,nou manke amou e self esteem pou sa ki pa nou.e tou tan nou pa chanje mantalite saa blan ap toujou meprise nou.

ki jan fè Spike lee pwodwi:" Malcom X,Do the right things " ak Danzel Washington.Danzell li menm pwodwi American Gangsters. li sot pwodwi The great debaters epi pou Danny Glover li menm pa ka pwodwi Toussain louverture?Sim ka kotise pou kanpay Obama ak tout zev charite pouki sa si Danny Glover mete youn site sou enternet la mwen pa ka voye menm 10 dola ba li poul pwodwi film saa .se sa Arsitide tap pale ya :"men anpil chaj pa lou".fok nou konprann se konbit pou nou fè pou nou soti nan kalite malsite saa.mwen non selman mwen pral wè film lan lè li soti men si Danny vle map voye youn ti kotizatyon pam ba li.se pou nou mete lajan nou kote bouch nou ye tou.Se pa pale e ekri franseuuu anpil selman non.manyè fout trouse manch chemiz nou pou nou kreye byen ak servis pa nou konsa moun ap respekte nou.

Avan yè map tande Georges Bush ki ap fè eloj chinwa yo kote li di:" fok Ameriken respekte la chinn se youn gran peyi".men li fout :"God bless the child who has his own." se youn verite eternel ,moun pa respekte moun ki ap mande tou tan.Se pa Mao ki te vinn visite Nixon ;se Nixon ki te soti lakay li al rankontre l ak Chou En lai .Bush di li sezi wè transformatyon ki fet an chinn nan 20 lane.se travay moun travay pou genyen mye zet pou afè w chanje.moun respekte Castro paske li pap mande personn charite.kiben viv selon moyen yo ;yo pap achte machinn 60000 dola ba depite ak direkte jeneral antrepriz kiben.