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Message  Sasaye Mar 7 Oct 2008 - 16:53

Posted on Mon, Oct. 06, 2008
Haiti could get gift of portable classrooms from Broward
By JACQUELINE CHARLES
From television interviews in Miami-Dade to a school visit in Broward, Haitian President René Préval raced through South Florida over the weekend seeking additional relief for his storm-ravaged nation.
Préval held private talks in Key Biscayne with Dominican President Leonel Fernández to discuss participation of that neighboring country's private sector in reconstruction projects. And he met Monday with the director of the Port of Miami to discuss how to transport several hundred unusually large items to Gonaives, the city hardest hit by four back-to-back storms last month.

The most promising gift so far from South Florida for Haiti: 600 portable classrooms from Broward to help alleviate a crunch created by damaged schools still serving as shelters for more than 165,000 homeless storm victims.

Storms Fay, Gustav, Hanna and Ike are blamed for more than 700 deaths. They destroyed tens of thousands of homes, wiped out more than 50,000 acres of agricultural fields and delayed the opening of schools by a month.

''This is a project that would have long-term impact in Haiti, especially for our youth and education sector,'' Préval said Monday in between a press conference at the Consulate General of Haiti in downtown Miami and a visit with a group of Broward County Haitian community leaders who have been working with the school district on the portable classrooms donation.

School officials said the portables would likely be dismantled and destroyed if they don't go to Haiti even though the temporary buildings are good for another 20 years.

''There is no need for us to utilize these portables,'' said Benjamin Williams, a member of the Broward School Board. ``It's going to take money to dismantle these portables.''

Préval is scheduled to return to Haiti on Tuesday. He was originally scheduled to go home on Sunday, but he canceled the flight and headed north to Everglades High in Miramar. Arriving at the campus, he sat inside a portable classroom and was immediately impressed.

Williams then explained plans to ask his fellow board members to donate the mobile classrooms.

On the drive back to Miami, Préval said he realized the structures could also help transform education in a country where many students learn in rundown, deteriorating classrooms.

''He's truly energized by this,'' said David Lawrence Jr., a child advocate and former publisher of The Miami Herald to whom Préval has reached out for assistance. ``He's deeply interested in seeing if there are other portables in the other school districts and asked me to see if I can make something larger come to pass.''

Lawrence said the portables are a great idea.

''I am delighted to help,'' he said. ``Haiti needs every bit of help it can get, and it should be the obligation of every fortunate person in Miami to help.''

Préval also met with former Gov. Jeb Bush, various community leaders and officials and U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, D-Miami, who organized a meeting at Miami International Airport where Préval, the Port of Miami director and the owner of a private shipping company discussed transportation.

''I believe there is no greater humanitarian effort that South Florida can engage itself in,'' Meek said. ``In many of the hardest-hit areas, children are sleeping under the stars because their homes have been destroyed. These portables would allow the government to start putting the education system back in place so the children can learn in decent conditions.''

Williams first mentioned the portable idea to board members three weeks ago. He also has been in contact with Walmart, he said.

''They want to give school supplies for this project,'' he said. ``They say they are ready to do this if the Broward school system is going to give them the portables.''

Along with discussing the possibility of acquiring additional portables from the state of Florida, Préval has been trying to create partnerships to raise the funds to transport and assemble the 20-foot by 30-foot structures.

The objective of the project, he said, is to use the portables as the cornerstone of a community center in each of Haiti's 142 counties, which would include classrooms, health clinics and sports facilities for youths.

Préval said that even as Haiti faces many rebuilding needs, his goal is to ``little by little return a sense of normalcy to people's everyday lives.''





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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 7 Oct 2008 - 19:41

Kote Manigat minis ayisyen nan dyaspora pou ki sa li pa fè youn marathon pou ayisyen bay kob pou transpote potable yo?Ki sa ministè sa itil menm?Eske genyen youn moun ki ka dim sa li itil ayiti depi kreyatyon li.Pito Preval kraze ministè saa la jwen lajan poul transpote potable saa ke yo fè l kado.eske youn mou ka voye youn ti kotisatyon ba Presidan Preval ke li mete youn sit sou pye pou moun ka fè sa .Preval pa sanble youn moun dwet long non.
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Message  Marc-Henry Mar 7 Oct 2008 - 19:50

Y a-t-il un ministre des haitiens vivant à l'étranger dans le gvt Préval \ Duvivier ?

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Men wi eske yo pat di se Charles Manigat ki minis ayisyen ki ap viv a letranje.
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Message  Sasaye Mer 8 Oct 2008 - 2:09

Chak chen .......................jan yo konnen.
Jouva jouvyen...................pa linèt
chak koukouj klere pou tou je yo.
Tout jwèt se jwèt men bwa ........makak pa ladann.
Lakata w fè ta w, lan Ginen tande...

Men mwen pa janm tande yon prezidan ayisyen al bat kou yon dyab lan yon benitye pou al chèche sekou pou pèp li ke siklonn finn desounen.

Il fo done a seza se ki è ta seza.

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Message  revelation Ven 10 Oct 2008 - 16:41

Gouvenman Preval la pral resevwa kay potatif gratis nan men leta Floride.
Kay potatif sa yo pral sevi pou fe lekol, clinic, sant de sante, bibliyotek e sant de rekreyation.

Men si gouvenman Preval la pral resevwa kay sa yo gratis, Jan bagay yo ye la sanble menm si yo ba nou kay potatif sayo gratis, n’ap oblije depense anpil lajan pou:

Demonte kay say o pyes pa pyes.
Mete yo sou kamyon pou debake yo sou waft Miami.
Mete yon an bato pou direktion Ayiti.

Reve an Ayiti komyen la se debake yo.
Mete yo sou kamyon pou direction tout provins.
Remonte yo anko nan plasman fix nan lokalite ke leta chwazi yo.

Kom mwen di avan tout trailer kay potatif say o gratis, men se menmen yo vin an Ayiti kap koute lajan. Petet plis ke kay say o vo.

Fok nou fe yon jan pou’m pran yo. Si se pasa, leta floride pral bulldozer yo e kraze yo, sa ap koute leta floride lajan tou.

Pafwa yon kado gratis kap koze plis depans pou sevi ak li.!!

Yon ti not an pasan pou moun ki gen move lang yo:

Kay sa yo pa menm kay mobil avek sa Katrina yo ki nan Nouvelle Orleans yo ke moun ap mache di ke kay sayo bay maladi.
Se pa kay Katrina ke Ayiti nap resevwa, se kay lekol potatif county Broward, ak Dade-county pap sevi avek yo anko.


Se yon moun ou byen yon organization, ou NGO ta remen gen 2 ou 3 kay mobil say o, fe nou konnen, nap fe demach pou jwen kay sayo gratis.
Sepandan, se w ki pou depanse lajan w pou demonte kay transpote kay, mete kay sou bato poul al an Ayiti.

Fok destinasyon final la kay gratis sayo rete an Ayiti!!
Yo pakab al ni Cuba, ni Venezuela.


Haiti to get portable classrooms unused by Broward
JACQUELINE CHARLES
From television interviews in Miami-Dade to a school visit in Broward, Haitian President René Préval raced through South Florida over the weekend seeking additional relief for his storm-ravaged nation.
Préval held private talks in Key Biscayne with Dominican President Leonel Fernández to discuss participation of that neighboring country's private sector in reconstruction projects. And he met Monday with the director of the Port of Miami to discuss how to transport several hundred unusually large items to Gonaives, the city hardest hit by four back-to-back storms last month.

The most promising gift so far from South Florida for Haiti: 600 portable classrooms from Broward to help alleviate a crunch created by damaged schools still serving as shelters for more than 165,000 homeless storm victims.

Storms Fay, Gustav, Hanna and Ike are blamed for more than 700 deaths. They destroyed tens of thousands of homes, wiped out more than 50,000 acres of agricultural fields and delayed the opening of schools by a month.

''This is a project that would have long-term impact in Haiti, especially for our youth and education sector,'' Préval said Monday in between a press conference at the Consulate General of Haiti in downtown Miami and a visit with a group of Broward County Haitian community leaders who have been working with the school district on the portable classrooms donation.

School officials said the portables would likely be dismantled and destroyed if they don't go to Haiti even though the temporary buildings are good for another 20 years.
''There is no need for us to utilize these portables,'' said Benjamin Williams, a member of the Broward School Board. ``It's going to take money to dismantle these portables.''


Préval is scheduled to return to Haiti on Tuesday. He was originally scheduled to go home on Sunday, but he canceled the flight and headed north to Everglades High in Miramar. Arriving at the campus, he sat inside a portable classroom and was immediately impressed.
Williams then explained plans to ask his fellow board members to donate the mobile classrooms.

On the drive back to Miami, Préval said he realized the structures could also help transform education in a country where many students learn in rundown, deteriorating classrooms.

''He's truly energized by this,'' said David Lawrence Jr., a child advocate and former publisher of The Miami Herald to whom Préval has reached out for assistance. ``He's deeply interested in seeing if there are other portables in the other school districts and asked me to see if I can make something larger come to pass.''
Lawrence said the portables are a great idea.

''I am delighted to help,'' he said. ``Haiti needs every bit of help it can get, and it should be the obligation of every fortunate person in Miami to help.''
Préval also met with former Gov. Jeb Bush, various community leaders and officials and U.S. Rep. Kendrick Meek, D-Miami, who organized a meeting at Miami International Airport where Préval, the Port of Miami director and the owner of a private shipping company discussed transportation.

''I believe there is no greater humanitarian effort that South Florida can engage itself in,'' Meek said. ``In many of the hardest-hit areas, children are sleeping under the stars because their homes have been destroyed. These portables would allow the government to start putting the education system back in place so the children can learn in decent conditions.''

Williams first mentioned the portable idea to board members three weeks ago. He also has been in contact with Walmart, he said.
''They want to give school supplies for this project,'' he said. ``They say they are ready to do this if the Broward school system is going to give them the portables.'' Walmart ap bay kontribisyon li an materiel skole'r pou meble e ekipe lekol mobil sa yo


Along with discussing the possibility of acquiring additional portables from the state of Florida, Préval has been trying to create partnerships to raise the funds to transport and assemble the 20-foot by 30-foot structures.

The objective of the project, he said, is to use the portables as the cornerstone of a community center in each of Haiti's 142 counties, which would include classrooms, health clinics and sports facilities for youths.

Préval said that even as Haiti faces many rebuilding needs, his goal is to ``little by little return a sense of normalcy to people's everyday lives.''
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Message  Rico Ven 10 Oct 2008 - 16:58

Adye nou nan tenten. Lè nou konnen se bon kay beton, brik ak roch siman ki reponn a bezwen ti nèg. Pou voye ti estrikti an katon, jiprok, ti tol bayo. An plis bagay ki pral koute plis antretyen.

An plis kote pèp souvren ki pa bon, an difikilte pral fè dapiyan sou lokal sayo. Se konpreyansib yo nan bezwen, pou vinn lage bann lokal sayo nan figi yo. Wouyyyyy papa bon Dye bidonvil pral monte nan peyi sa.

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Message  Sasaye Ven 10 Oct 2008 - 17:37

Revelasyon,

Sak pase?
Ou pa li fowom nan?

Depi kek jou, mwen poste atik saa.
Ou pa reponn li, men kounyea ou vinn poste menm bagay la.

De ki prevyen?

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Message  revelation Mar 14 Oct 2008 - 11:20

Sasaye di :
Revelasyon,

Sak pase?
Ou pa li fowom nan?
Depi kek jou, mwen poste atik saa.
Ou pa reponn li, men kounyea ou vinn poste menm bagay la.
De ki prevyen?
http://forumhaiti.com/politique-haitienne-f3/preval-pa-retounen-ak-men-vid-non-t4864.htm

Mon che’r, se apre ke’m vinn poste deba sa ke’m vinn remake ke w te poste’l déjà.
Kom w se webmaster, SVP retire post sa e mete’l nan deba post pa w la konsa mat jwen tout infomasyon yo yon grenn kote.

Eskize’m nom fre !!

Rico di:
Adye nou nan tenten. Lè nou konnen se bon kay beton, brik ak roch siman ki reponn a bezwen ti nèg. Pou voye ti estrikti an katon, jiprok, ti tol bayo. An plis bagay ki pral koute plis antretyen.

An plis kote pèp souvren ki pa bon, an difikilte pral fè dapiyan sou lokal sayo. Se konpreyansib yo nan bezwen, pou vinn lage bann lokal sayo nan figi yo. Wouyyyyy papa bon Dye bidonvil pral monte nan peyi sa.

Poutan ti malere bezwen ti pyès kay li ak bon beton, byen simante pou siklonn pa pati ak lojman sayo. Bon zafè menm si se pou biro, klinik, bibliyotèk . Se pi mal eske ti lokal sayo mwen konnen kap sèvi an Ayiti. Sa sanble yon kado anpwozonnen ki pral konstitiye plis twoubay ke vreman ede.
Prediksyon ke Rico bay la se yon kochma pou gouvenman si kay potatif sayo ta vinn tombe nan men entreprene malonet.
Gouvenman pa ta remen we ke kay sayo toumen de
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ti mezon kodonye, bank bolette etc.. ki ta simaye toupatou nan tout lakou PotoPrins pou tout moun we.

Bi prinsipal kay potatif sa yo se pou lekol, klinik, bibliyotek ak sant spotif e edikatif.

Si Rico a di a rive vre e kay sa yo tounen propriyete prive e habitation nan bidonville,
sa kap yon kas tet chinwa pou leta pou deguepiye malere sa yo nan kay sa yo.

Leta fet pou fe invante kay sa yo e sezi sa ke yo sevi kom kay prive san konsantman leta.

Jan Rico di a, yon byen kap tounen yon mal si nou pa konnen ki jan pou nou jere’l.

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Message  Sasaye Mar 14 Oct 2008 - 11:51

Ok Revelasyon,
Mwen melanje pos yo.
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Message  revelation Mar 14 Oct 2008 - 12:32

Mesi Sasaye!! e nou ta swete ke sije kay potatif sa yo nan lakou peyi d'Ayiti pran vent nan voile!!

Nou ta swete, tout ingenye, urbanist, sosyolog, vinn bay opinyon yo sou zafe kay potatif sa yo ki pral vide nan peyi d'Ayiti.

26,000 kay potatif pou sevi kom lekol, klinik, bibliyotek, etc.. aloske rest pep la se nan larue ke yap domi.

Problem lojeman e habitation pou malere fet pou yon proje a long term e non yon solisyon a kou-term.

Fok gen yon tax spesyal, yon lwa konstitisyonel pou pemet yon kontinuyte 30 a 40 annee payman pou pemet moun gen dwa a lojeman!
Menm chien gen kay pou yo rete nan peyi blan e lot peyi,

Pou kisa se anba galleri, pil sou pil ke pep la ap oblije domi!!!
E nou ta remen tourist vinn lakay nou pou nou sa fe lajan!

Komanse fe lajan ak pep la!1 Bati 2, 3 ti villaj byen ekipe pou yo rete!!
E ba yo mwayen pou yo sa vinn propriete chenmet chemetress nan 30 a 40 an.

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Message  Rico Mar 14 Oct 2008 - 12:58

revelation a écrit:Mesi Sasaye!! e nou ta swete ke sije kay potatif sa yo nan lakou peyi d'Ayiti pran vent nan voile!!

Nou ta swete, tout ingenye, urbanist, sosyolog, vinn bay opinyon yo sou zafe kay potatif sa yo ki pral vide nan peyi d'Ayiti.

26,000 kay potatif pou sevi kom lekol, klinik, bibliyotek, etc.. aloske rest pep la se nan larue ke yap domi.

Problem lojeman e habitation pou malere fet pou yon proje a long term e non yon solisyon a kou-term.

Fok gen yon tax spesyal, yon lwa konstitisyonel pou pemet yon kontinuyte 30 a 40 annee payman pou pemet moun gen dwa a lojeman!
Menm chien gen kay pou yo rete nan peyi blan e lot peyi,

Pou kisa se anba galleri, pil sou pil ke pep la ap oblije domi!!!
E nou ta remen tourist vinn lakay nou pou nou sa fe lajan!

Komanse fe lajan ak pep la!1 Bati 2, 3 ti villaj byen ekipe pou yo rete!!
E ba yo mwayen pou yo sa vinn propriete chenmet chemetress nan 30 a 40 an.

Revelasyon

Ki koze sa wou pa menm di bayo ti lojman sosyal pou peye ti lwaye pou defreye depans antreyen ak renovasyon. Mezanmiro soti nan move mizere pou vinn pov se etap sa mande. Se pa ditou pov nou genyen se mizè enfra imenn. Moun pov pa nan achte kay ke di moun nan kondsyon ekstrèm mizerab nou dwe travay pou soti ladann.
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Message  revelation Ven 17 Oct 2008 - 13:06

Avan ke Prezidan Preval te ale o Quebec, lite fe yon ti kout pye nan Miami, Florida pou'l te remesye dirijan lekol Florida pou kay potab ke yo te ofri'l yo.
An nou tande sa'l di.

Sa se yon foto prezidan preval avek yon bon zanmi peyi d'Haiti.
Prezidan Ameriken sa George W. Bush, bay Haiti plis ed ke tout lot prezidan Ameriken.

2 gwo Prezidan sa yo eli an 2 fwa nan tet peyi yo!!

Yo antand yo byen e yo pa nan pale mete la!!
Yo kwe nan aktion e nan pran desisyon pou peyi yo!!


Preval pa retounen ak men vid non. 20070508-5_p050807jb-0175a-515h

Se sou Window Media Players pou nou tande messaj de remesiman Prezidan.

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Message  Sasaye Ven 17 Oct 2008 - 13:24

Koumatiboulout !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Revelasyon,
Si w vle mete enfômasyon sou sit la ou met mete yo, men ou pa bezwen fè komantè paske enfomasyon yo pale pou tèt yo.

Ou mande anraje men moun serye paka kwè w.
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Message  Sasaye Sam 18 Oct 2008 - 15:19

Posted on Sat, Oct. 18, 2008
Schools to give Haiti classrooms
By JACQUELINE CHARLES

Two days after Haitian President René Préval made a surprise visit to Miami-Dade County School Board to ask the district to join Broward in providing surplus portable classrooms to the storm-ravaged nation, another two South Florida school districts pledged their support, Haitian officials said Friday.

Haiti's ambassador to the United States, Raymond Joseph, said officials from Martin and Palm Beach counties have joined Miami-Dade and Broward in recovery efforts.

To date, tens of thousands of children have been unable to attend classes because four back-to-back storms this hurricane season that damaged or destroyed at least 700 schools throughout the country.

Joseph flew to Miami Friday morning after Broward Schools Deputy Superintendent Michael Garreston invited him to speak at a meeting in Sunny Isles of school officials from Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Martin counties.

It was Broward officials' offer of 600 portable classrooms earlier this month that gave birth to Préval's plans to rebuild Haiti's education infrastructure, using surplus portables from Florida that would otherwise be destroyed but still have at least a 20-year life span.

Miami-Dade's new Superintendent Alberto Carvalho not only pledged his district's donation of usable portable classrooms on Wednesday, but also promised to help Haiti acquire others from the state.

''What the president did by coming here is open up a whole new discussion about how Haiti and the state of Florida could work together to bring about development in Haiti,'' Joseph said.

In addition to the portables, Haiti has also been promised four garbage trucks, two school buses and school supplies to fill several hundred of the portables once they arrive.



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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Sam 18 Oct 2008 - 16:14

men ki moun ki pral demonte klass potab sa yo ;eske li pa ta bon pou Konsil nan miami ou byen Orlando mande kek volontè pou ede demonte klass sa yo pou nou ekspedye yo an ayiti.Si youn moun te ka bay menm 4 è pa jou ou byen nan week end li ta bon.Si genyen youn mouvman konsa ke yo mete l sou forum lan pou moun ki vle fè voluntarya.menm youn 25 è pa semenn mwen ka bay .
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Message  Invité Dim 19 Oct 2008 - 9:37

Gen yon polka ki di yon bagay sou sijè sa a, se yon bagay ki gen tout sans li.

Ces maisons seront-elles adaptées à la réalité haitienne???

Quel organisme se chargera-t-il de leur gestion???

Pourquoi ne pas importer de préférence le modèle de logements utilisé par les Vénézuéliens dans les zones de bidonvilles???

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Message  Rodlam Sans Malice Dim 19 Oct 2008 - 13:59

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Ce sont des dons.Pourquoi ces salles de calsse ne sont-elles pas appropriées en haiti?Le gouvernement ne les utilisera pas pour loger la population que durant le passage des cyclones.Vu l'etat de delabrement de nos ecoles je pense qu'elles sont tout ce qu'il faut pour le moment ou les ressources sont minces.S'il n'y a pas assez d'elecrticité pour les climatiseurs on peut les modifier facilement pour plus d'aeration.Il faut des salles de classes pour l'ecolage de nos enfants.

je partage votre point de vue sur l'importation des maisons en plastique contruites au Venezuela pour loger les sinistrés.
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Message  Sasaye Mer 22 Oct 2008 - 4:47

Le président René Préval fait état de nouvelles promessses de "pays amis d'Haïti" et annonce l'arrivée de ponts métalliques, d'écoles et de maisons pré-fabriquées

Port-au-Prince, le 21 octobre 2008 – (AHP) – Le président René Préval a indiqué mardi que plusieurs chefs d’Etat étrangers ont renouvelé leurs engagements à participer à la reconstruction du pays, serieusement affecté par le passage successif de quatre ouragans entre mi-août et mi-septembre.

Nous allons bientôt recevoir 10 ponts métalliques qui devraient être installés d’ici la fin de cette année, a fait savoir René Préval.

Le chef de l’Etat a aussi indiqué avoir reçu des promesses pour la construction et la réparation de routes, notamment celle reliant les Cayes (Sud) à la ville de Jérémie (sud-Ouest).

Des maisons et des écoles pré-fabriquées devraient également arriver dans le pays dans un proche avenir, a dit M. Préval.

Le sénateur Yvon Buissereth qui faisait partie de la délégation composée, entre autres, de membres du gouvernement, d’hommes d’affaires et de parlementaires, a fait savoir que le parlement et le gouvernement haïtien doivent continuer à travailler ensemble en vue de consolider la stabilité du pays.

C’est à cette condition qu’on arrivera réellement à attirer les investisseurs étrangers, at-il souligné.

De son côté, le président de la chambre de commerce et d’industrie haitiano-canadienne, Frantz Liautaud, a indiqué que plusieurs entrepreneurs haïtiens et canadiens sont très disposés à venir investir dans le pays, moyennant, dit-il, un climat stable.
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