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Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Dim 19 Avr 2009 - 10:37
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From left to right, Haiti's President Rene Preval, Chile's President Michelle Bachelet, President Barack Obama, Trinidad and Tobago's Prime Minister Patrick Manning, Belize's Prime Minister Dean Barrow, during the official dinner of the 5th Summit of the Americas in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Saturday, April 18, 2009.
Ariana Cubillos / AP Photo
Rene Garcia Preval se sel prezidan dan listwa peyi d'Ayiti ki santi ke li a lez, e ki kap voyaje kite peyi a jan li vle, le li vle san ke li pa pe koudeta!! Se yon nan pli gran privilej ke yon prezidan kap gennyen!
Lap tounen jodi dimanch la nan peyi li poul al vote.
Si tout bagay passe byen jan ke yo prevwal la gen yon gran possibilite pou oganizasyon intenational yo aprouve yon lot 5 an Preval back to back!!
Blocked candidates could tarnish Haiti vote
Miami Herald
Posted on Sun, Apr. 19, 2009
By JONATHAN M. KATZ
Associated Press Writer
Haitian President Rene Preval could see his economic projects and constitutional reform emerge as the big winners when long-delayed Senate elections are finally held on Sunday.
A Senate majority for his Lespwa party, which has a candidate running for every seat but one, would help Preval achieve a long sought-after reform of Haiti's 1987 constitution, increasing executive powers and allowing presidents to seek consecutive five-year terms.
It would also build support for Preval's economic programs, meant to relieve poverty in a nation where 80 percent of people live on less than $2 a day.
But Sunday's vote could be more notable for who is not running.
Haiti's provisional electoral council disqualified all candidates from former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's still-popular Fanmi Lavalas party - a fact that may cause unrest or tarnish election results.
Some in Port-au-Prince were worried about their safety on election day, which has long been associated with violence and intimidation in Haiti.
"Today is my last day on the street. I'm going home until Monday," said Jean Rolin, a 35-year-old plumber who did not plan to vote.
Total of 79 candidates will vie for 12 Senate seats. With races involving five to 18 candidates each, most are expected to end in run-offs between the top two vote-getters. Preval's party already holds six of 18 seats in the upper chamber.
Security forces including 9,000 U.N. peacekeepers are prepared for protests by Lavalas supporters and others who have threatened to disrupt voting because their candidates were banned from the ballot.
Both Aristide and his former party still enjoy widespread support, especially among Haiti's urban poor.
Preval, who was prime minister under Aristide, was elected president in 2006 with strong Lavalas backing. But Aristide's supporters now consider Preval a traitor for failing to return the exiled president to Haiti.
Lavalas petitioned the electoral council to allow its candidates to run for Senate, but its case was weakened by a split in the party. Council President Frantz-Gerard Verret said the candidates were disqualified because they failed to produce documents signed by Aristide, the party's leader who was flown to exile in Africa on a U.S. plane during a 2004 rebellion.
"This is essentially a political decision," University of Virginia Haiti expert Robert Fatton Jr. said, referring to the council's ruling. "All the parties who made this decision are essentially united against Lavalas and want to marginalize Lavalas as far as they can."
The electoral council, not the government, had a sole role in approving candidates, Preval said Thursday at a press conference with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
"We are doing everything in our power to ensure that the government is neutral in the running of the elections," Preval said. He plans to return from the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad to vote in person on Sunday.
Clinton praised Haiti's electoral process as free and fair, and called it a model to be emulated by nearby Cuba.
But the U.S. embassy in Port-au-Prince joined Canada and the Organization of American States in voicing concern when Lavalas was excluded from the ballot in February. U.N. Security Council delegates in March praised Lavalas for continuing to contest the decision.
Armed U.N. peacekeepers escorted ballots and voting materials to polling places in the capital on Saturday, and international election monitors fanned out to countryside precincts.
The elections were originally scheduled for late 2007, but canceled after the electoral council was dissolved amid infighting and an alleged assassination attempt on one of its members. Riots then toppled Haiti's government and four successive hurricanes led to nearly 800 deaths last year.
Twelve seats are now vacant after 10 senators' terms expired, one died in a car crash and another resigned.
From left to right, Haiti's President Rene Preval, Chile's President Michelle Bachelet, President Barack Obama, Trinidad and Tobago's Prime Minister Patrick Manning, Belize's Prime Minister Dean Barrow, during the official dinner of the 5th Summit of the Americas in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, Saturday, April 18, 2009.
Ariana Cubillos / AP Photo
Rene Garcia Preval se sel prezidan dan listwa peyi d'Ayiti ki santi ke li a lez, e ki kap voyaje kite peyi a jan li vle, le li vle san ke li pa pe koudeta!! Se yon nan pli gran privilej ke yon prezidan kap gennyen!
Lap tounen jodi dimanch la nan peyi li poul al vote.
Si tout bagay passe byen jan ke yo prevwal la gen yon gran possibilite pou oganizasyon intenational yo aprouve yon lot 5 an Preval back to back!!
Blocked candidates could tarnish Haiti vote
Miami Herald
Posted on Sun, Apr. 19, 2009
By JONATHAN M. KATZ
Associated Press Writer
Haitian President Rene Preval could see his economic projects and constitutional reform emerge as the big winners when long-delayed Senate elections are finally held on Sunday.
A Senate majority for his Lespwa party, which has a candidate running for every seat but one, would help Preval achieve a long sought-after reform of Haiti's 1987 constitution, increasing executive powers and allowing presidents to seek consecutive five-year terms.
It would also build support for Preval's economic programs, meant to relieve poverty in a nation where 80 percent of people live on less than $2 a day.
But Sunday's vote could be more notable for who is not running.
Haiti's provisional electoral council disqualified all candidates from former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide's still-popular Fanmi Lavalas party - a fact that may cause unrest or tarnish election results.
Some in Port-au-Prince were worried about their safety on election day, which has long been associated with violence and intimidation in Haiti.
"Today is my last day on the street. I'm going home until Monday," said Jean Rolin, a 35-year-old plumber who did not plan to vote.
Total of 79 candidates will vie for 12 Senate seats. With races involving five to 18 candidates each, most are expected to end in run-offs between the top two vote-getters. Preval's party already holds six of 18 seats in the upper chamber.
Security forces including 9,000 U.N. peacekeepers are prepared for protests by Lavalas supporters and others who have threatened to disrupt voting because their candidates were banned from the ballot.
Both Aristide and his former party still enjoy widespread support, especially among Haiti's urban poor.
Preval, who was prime minister under Aristide, was elected president in 2006 with strong Lavalas backing. But Aristide's supporters now consider Preval a traitor for failing to return the exiled president to Haiti.
Lavalas petitioned the electoral council to allow its candidates to run for Senate, but its case was weakened by a split in the party. Council President Frantz-Gerard Verret said the candidates were disqualified because they failed to produce documents signed by Aristide, the party's leader who was flown to exile in Africa on a U.S. plane during a 2004 rebellion.
"This is essentially a political decision," University of Virginia Haiti expert Robert Fatton Jr. said, referring to the council's ruling. "All the parties who made this decision are essentially united against Lavalas and want to marginalize Lavalas as far as they can."
The electoral council, not the government, had a sole role in approving candidates, Preval said Thursday at a press conference with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
"We are doing everything in our power to ensure that the government is neutral in the running of the elections," Preval said. He plans to return from the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad to vote in person on Sunday.
Clinton praised Haiti's electoral process as free and fair, and called it a model to be emulated by nearby Cuba.
But the U.S. embassy in Port-au-Prince joined Canada and the Organization of American States in voicing concern when Lavalas was excluded from the ballot in February. U.N. Security Council delegates in March praised Lavalas for continuing to contest the decision.
Armed U.N. peacekeepers escorted ballots and voting materials to polling places in the capital on Saturday, and international election monitors fanned out to countryside precincts.
The elections were originally scheduled for late 2007, but canceled after the electoral council was dissolved amid infighting and an alleged assassination attempt on one of its members. Riots then toppled Haiti's government and four successive hurricanes led to nearly 800 deaths last year.
Twelve seats are now vacant after 10 senators' terms expired, one died in a car crash and another resigned.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Lun 20 Avr 2009 - 23:06
Cubain sa yo pi mal ke Ayisyen !! Yo fe pati tout klass sosyal. Men sak rele desespwa!! Gen ladan yo ki professe, ekriven, atlet, poet, kodonye etc..!! Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit: |
| nanpren moun ki di pa genyen pwogrè ki fet nan serten domenn kiba non.men zafè papa Elyan Gonzales ki te di se kiba poul tounen ak pitit li ya se bagay wap di pou fè ti moun domi. Sil konnen lè li tounen li se yon gwo bwa li pral ye nan kominis pati ya e isit la se travay poul travay di rekomanse nan yopn peyi ke li pa konen ou pa beswen Einstein pou konprann poukisa li te vle retounen kiba.Epi</A> genyen lot</A> bagay tou lè w pa konn yon lot bagay ke sa wap viv depi w fet la li difisil pou apresye yon lot system.Fok ou pa bliye se 50 lane ke castro genyen depi li ap dirije peyi ya e jiska presan si yo mete 4 porte avyon nan la rad kiba e di tout moun ki vle vinn Miami yo met monte kiba pap</A> genyen mwatye moun ki ap rete ladann menm Fidel mande pou sektyon kosilè ameriken ya bay kiben plis visa pouki sa? |
Piporiko di Rod: ou manke evidens wi na sa wp di a.
Ki evidans ke w vle anko Pipo !!
Ke diktati a de goch, ke li te dwat, ke peyi ap dirije pa popilist chovinist narcissist, ou byen inkonpetan se pep la ki toujou soufri!!
Se rejim Castro a wi ki te mete dife nan deye papa Elian Gonzalez pou menen'l tounnen aloske manman timoun mourri nan lanme pou'l chache yon la vi myo pou pitit li.
Revolition Castrist la bel se vre, men fok nou we realite a wi!!
Castro chaje 20% sou transfe lajan ameriken Diaspora cubain yo.
Eske Diaspora Ayisyen en tap aksepte sa????
Castro pran lajan ameriken Diaspora depi aeropo e nan tout mezon transfe e li remet fanmi yo lajan an pesos.
Eske Diaspora ayisyen an tap aksepte sa??
Pagen elektion depi pli ke 50 tan
Eske pep Ayisyen tap aksepte sa??
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
piporiko Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 11:14
Se yon revolisyon ki fet.Yo pa ka kite kek gusano vinn gate konket pe kiben an fe.By the way ,gen anpil kiben kap travay deyo,konbyenn nan yo ki mande azil ou byen ki pa vle tounen.Set istwa wap di yo te fann nan degonn papa elian .Ki evidans ou gengnen.Li te nan paradi ,li te ka rete.sispan ak kliche sa yo.depi se yon bagay ki mete moun anav tout konsiderasyon:nou mande anraje.haiti "gen "tout sa w di pep kiben an pa gengen:rends-moi fou ou saj.Mwen ta pito pep kiben yan wi kote ki pa gen yon elit makak ,sankoutya,sanfigi.gade nan video mwen poste a,gad sa preval fe.Kiba se moun ki gen nen nan kigi pkap dirije.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 12:46
Piporiko di: Se yon revolisyon ki fet.Yo pa ka kite kek gusano vinn gate konket pe kiben an fe.By the way ,gen anpil kiben kap travay deyo,konbyenn nan yo ki mande azil ou byen ki pa vle tounen.Set istwa wap di yo te fann nan degonn papa elian .Ki evidans ou gengnen.Li te nan paradi ,li te ka rete.sispan ak kliche sa yo.depi se yon bagay ki mete moun anav tout konsiderasyon:nou mande anraje.haiti "gen "tout sa w di pep kiben an pa gengen:rends-moi fou ou saj.
Mwen ta pito pep kiben yan wi kote ki pa gen yon elit makak ,sankoutya,sanfigi.gade nan video mwen poste a,gad sa preval fe.Kiba se moun ki gen nen nan kigi pkap dirije.
Piporiko pou nou rete sou zafe Cuba, Revolition kibenn nan ki fet pliske 50 tan de sa se pou granmoun yo!! Se pa pou jeness la!!
Apr eke Soviet Union an finn tombe, jeness kibenn nan bloke, yo pa progresse anko memm jan avan!
Wi se vre ke yo jwen edikasyon, swen medical, etc gratis..
Sa yo bezwen konnyen la se libete, yo bezwen meyo saler, libete pou yo di sayo vle deplase kote yo vle e nome dirijan ke yo vle.
Pou zafe elit ayisyenn nan ke yon ap kwitike a, li pa diferan de rest elit ki nan lot peyi.
tout lelit kwe nan intellijans yo, sou fos kouraj yo, sou vale familial yo e sou aveni peyi yo e edikasyon pitit yo.
Malgre peripesi kap passe nan peyi d'Ayiti, yo la avek pep la. nan fe nwa. Anpil nan lelit la mouri pou peyi yo.
Yo pa chappe sove kite Ayiti pou vinn nan peyi blan, men jan ke nan nou fe a.
Yo vinn etidye e pran konesans apre yo tounnen lakay yo e se yo ki nan l'huile konnyen la!!
Si nou pat chappe sove kite peyi d'Ayiti nou tap an Ayiti konnyen la ap ansegne nan yon inivesite.
Nou tap demode, san fomasyon e san recyclaj e san konesans nouvo.
Nou tap san moral e san vale familial,
Nou tap nan bwe tafya e kouche fanm panyol sou rout kafou.
Nou tap kontante nou viv nan kwas.
Jeness kibenn nan di keyo fatigue viv nan kwas yo pito pran bato e riske vie yo pou yo al chache yon la vie myo.
M’al Cuba an plizye fwa ! e m’pap kache di nou ke si yon moun etranje kou kiben pa gen lajan nan poch li, se chien li ye paske li pap jwen pesonn pou bali la men.
Revolityon an te dous pou granmoun yo ! Pa pou jeness sa!!
Pale sa nou konnen e san hipokrizi avek pep kiben an.
men video ke nou ta renmen ke nou gade.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30281753
Revelasyon
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
piporiko Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 12:50
Si mwen byen konprann lojik ou wa.1804 se pou moun epok la.li pa konsene moun kounye a?Video wap montre pa vle di angnen.Se kom si w ta dim ke Al Capone ap dirije Citibank.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 12:55
Revelation, boss papa, sispann ak sijè sa a.
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 13:51
ColocoloColocolo di: Revelation, boss papa, sispann ak sijè sa a.
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
Poukisa yon aktivist tankou Revelation di Préval make poin aprè yon malonèt konsa?
Eske se honte sa a ki fé Préval te pal konsa sou tab la?
Apre 5th submmit sa, tout je fixe sou Ayiti e se sak pli inpotan pou pep la!
Nou pa gade sou « faux pas » ni sou malhonnet ke yon dirijan pran, ni sou malhonnet ke yo fe’l, men sou kontribisyon pozitif ki li pote pou peyi li.
Preval fe yon bon travay pou Ayiti e li te chita sou tab d’honner avek premye minist Trinidad la!
Sanble ke peson pa we sa, se ti maladres ke yo ap chache, tizin initil !!
Pou ti frekan ke Obama fe a, wont lan se sou li pou mank de diplomasi e se sak fe ke Chavez ki san savoir faire ap passe li nan tintin konsa.
Nou menn Repibliken, nou pap chita pedi tan sou maladress Obama, ni sou faux pas Preval, li fe sa pou’l te fe.
Konnyen la se pou 2011 ke nap travay.
E jan ke nou we bagay yo a l’horizon an, nou kap tounnen ak Preval pou yon lot 5 an anko, e administration Obama ap oblije aksepte'l.
Sak grinyen dent an denye a, se li ki fe la denye!!
Obama genyen pou'l vinn nan inoguirasyon Preval/LESPWA an 2011 e nou pap mete'l chita a te, nap ba'l chey nomalman avek tout honne e respe.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 15:29
colocolo a écrit:Revelation, boss papa, sispann ak sijè sa a.
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
li longe men'l, li pa menm okipe'l
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Joel Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 16:42
Adye ,pati Repibliken an ap goumen pou l siviv,tankou yo di Etazini pa gen 2 Pati,se yon Pati edmi Ki genyen.
Pati Repibliken alòs se sa k ap pase ann Ayiti li ta gede an 2011 alòs ke li anfas efasman an 2010.
Menm pitit Mc Cain ap voye wòch sou Pati Repibliken an e li di li pro OBAMA:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/24/2009-03-24_meghan_mccain_on_larry_king_i_am_proobam.html
Pati Repibliken alòs se sa k ap pase ann Ayiti li ta gede an 2011 alòs ke li anfas efasman an 2010.
Menm pitit Mc Cain ap voye wòch sou Pati Repibliken an e li di li pro OBAMA:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/24/2009-03-24_meghan_mccain_on_larry_king_i_am_proobam.html
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 17:01
Sim ta la toujou Preval ta presidan ankor an 2011 mwen pa tap janm pale ni ekri de politik ayisyen ankor.Nou ta tou met di ke peyi dayiti se yon peyi modi.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 17:44
Si nou gade videotape la byen depi komansman nap we ke Preval te vle introdwi yon neg a linett ak yon catab blan nan men li.
Preval te oblije touche bra Obama pou'l sa atire attention li.
Si nou gade fin tape la nap we ke introdiktion de neg sa a Obama te fet nomalman e Preval tap souri avan ke lite al chita sou tab d'honnerrr la..
Si Obama fe foto ak Chavez ki te di ke Obama se yon ignoran e ki te di Bush se satan, se pa Preval pou'l pa ta bay lanmen.
Al regade tape la depi komansman fe pause ralanti etc si nou vle, men verite a la.
M'voye videotape sa by protocole Obama pou yo di'm si se vre Obama te snob prezidan Ayisyen an ou si se zin ke ti ayisyen fouyapot ki pa gen anyen pou fe ap mete pwoblem kote ki pa genyen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
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Preval te oblije touche bra Obama pou'l sa atire attention li.
Si nou gade fin tape la nap we ke introdiktion de neg sa a Obama te fet nomalman e Preval tap souri avan ke lite al chita sou tab d'honnerrr la..
Si Obama fe foto ak Chavez ki te di ke Obama se yon ignoran e ki te di Bush se satan, se pa Preval pou'l pa ta bay lanmen.
Al regade tape la depi komansman fe pause ralanti etc si nou vle, men verite a la.
M'voye videotape sa by protocole Obama pou yo di'm si se vre Obama te snob prezidan Ayisyen an ou si se zin ke ti ayisyen fouyapot ki pa gen anyen pou fe ap mete pwoblem kote ki pa genyen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 17:51
Mèsi Revelation e nap tann feedback moun Obama yo paske sa ki sote pase la a enkietan anpil.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
piporiko Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 18:46
T-NEG a écrit:colocolo a écrit:Revelation, boss papa, sispann ak sijè sa a.
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
li longe men'l, li pa menm okipe'l
PREVAL POTRE YON TI MOUN YO TE VOYE ACHTE YON FRITAY.MEN GRANMOUN LI AP PALE,LI PA OKIPE'L.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 18:50
piporiko a écrit:T-NEG a écrit:colocolo a écrit:Revelation, boss papa, sispann ak sijè sa a.
Pipo mete yon vidéo kote Barack ap trete Préval pi mal ke yon ti chien:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30293066#30293066
li longe men'l, li pa menm okipe'l
PREVAL POTRE YON TI MOUN YO TE VOYE ACHTE YON FRITAY.MEN GRANMOUN LI AP PALE,LI PA OKIPE'L.
Aluzion sa a bèl anpil.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 20:17
Tout moun konn ap chache demake mandyan.lè yon moun pa ka fè refom nan administratyon lakay w pou viv ak sa w genyen e byen si moun meprise w se wou ki chache sa.Mwen pa di Obama te meprise Preval non,men fok Presidan an manyè chita lakay li viv nan osterite pou l pa blije ap mande charite tou tan.Poukisa Duvalier te pase tou tan saa o pouvwa li pat janm mande personn charite. epi Preval li menm li pa ka pale ak pep ayisyen pou di ke peyi ya pa genyen lajan poul peye tout birokrat initil sa yo.fok konstitutyon chanje pou se pa etranje ki ap bay 60% nan bidjè peyi ya.mandyan pa genyen prestij.
tout moun tande eskandal ki sot pase nan LONA kote sè presidan enplike.Lè yon moun ap tande soufrans pep la epi pou tande konbyen milyon neg sa yo ap sifone nan yon enstitutyon ki jan nou vle pou yo respekte yo.
tout moun tande eskandal ki sot pase nan LONA kote sè presidan enplike.Lè yon moun ap tande soufrans pep la epi pou tande konbyen milyon neg sa yo ap sifone nan yon enstitutyon ki jan nou vle pou yo respekte yo.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 10:41
Pi gwo poin Preval make se afè papie li rive fè Obama bay 30,000 moun sa yo yo ta pral depote nan Miami.
Pou le moman, toutt bèl promès lajan ak bèl foto se detay.
Pou le moman, toutt bèl promès lajan ak bèl foto se detay.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
revelation Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 12:29
Samba di: Pi gwo poin Preval make se afè papie li rive fè Obama bay 30,000 moun sa yo yo ta pral depote nan Miami.
Samba nou poko gen nouvel sa ke Preval fe Obama bay 30,000 ayisyen yo te pral depote nan Miami papye. Ki jan de papye ke yo resevwa?
stati tanpore ou byen permanan?
Ba nou plis infomasyon sou sa SVP.
Mesi davans!
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 13:17
pou mwen zafè sispann deportatyon moun san papye yo si se ta vre se yon bon bagay men sa ki pi enpotan pou mwen ki fet jodya se anilatyon det la.Si preval ak Madan Pierre louis pa itilise lajan enterè det ke yo te konn ap peye yo pou kreye plis manje nan peyi ya e byen nou met di moun sa yo pa genyen anyen nan kalbass tet yo kom brain.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 0:44
samba a écrit:Pi gwo poin Preval make se afè papie li rive fè Obama bay 30,000 moun sa yo yo ta pral depote nan Miami.
Pou le moman, toutt bèl promès lajan ak bèl foto se detay.
Ou paka rele siksè lè Preval exporte pwoblem li bay Obama.
Preval sou 2e manda li, sa li te fè nan 1er manda a pou 30,000 moun sa yo pat pati nan vie kondision sa yo?
Obama nan 1er manda li, e li ta pi lojik ke li komanse pa pwoblem lakay li avan ke li atake vie dosie tèt chaje sa a.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 9:12
Kenbe 30000 moun nan yon peyi kote moun ak M.S. ap vann pizza se pa solutyon an non;konbyen fwa Presidan Obama pral blije ba imigran amnesty?li pale pou kongrè ya vote plis lajan pou kontwol kwasans demografik la.se nou ki genyen yon ministè sante e populatyon ki pou nou mete fren nan kestyon ayisyen ap grennen pitit tankou la pen nan yon peyi kote genyen yon famine .
si gwo peyi yo vle ede ayiti vre se 2 bagay pou mwen ki dwe genyen priyorite se kontwol kwasans demografik la ak ede ayiti twouve yon lot moyen pou yo pa koupe pye bwa nan peyi ya ;ba yo yon alternativ a chabon bwa pou malere kwit manje yo.tou tan 2 pwoblem sa yo pa resoud e byen se pi mal peyi ya ap vinn pi mal jis lap tounen yon dezer kote ayiti ap vinn yon menas pou stabilite lot ti peyi nan rejyon an.
si gwo peyi yo vle ede ayiti vre se 2 bagay pou mwen ki dwe genyen priyorite se kontwol kwasans demografik la ak ede ayiti twouve yon lot moyen pou yo pa koupe pye bwa nan peyi ya ;ba yo yon alternativ a chabon bwa pou malere kwit manje yo.tou tan 2 pwoblem sa yo pa resoud e byen se pi mal peyi ya ap vinn pi mal jis lap tounen yon dezer kote ayiti ap vinn yon menas pou stabilite lot ti peyi nan rejyon an.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 10:20
Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:si gwo peyi yo vle ede ayiti vre se 2 bagay pou mwen ki dwe genyen priyorite se kontwol kwasans demografik la ak ede ayiti twouve yon lot moyen pou yo pa koupe pye bwa nan peyi ya ;ba yo yon alternativ a chabon bwa pou malere kwit manje yo.tou tan 2 pwoblem sa yo pa resoud e byen se pi mal peyi ya ap vinn pi mal jis lap tounen yon dezer kote ayiti ap vinn yon menas pou stabilite lot ti peyi nan rejyon an.
Mwen eksplike ou ase ke anpil moun nan yon peyi pa vle di la mizè e mwen pap tounen sou sa paske ou gen movèz fwa, sa ki nan tèt ou a, ou pap chanje'l pou kras rezon.
Je vais plutot aborder cette question de déboisement dans le pays.
Quelles sont les entités ou composantes qui utilisent le bois en Haiti:
1) les foyers pour la cuisson des aliments
2) Les boulangeries
3) les dry-cleaning
4) la construction
5) la menuiserie
6)...
Si maintenant, le gouvernement artificiellement offre une autre alternative pour faire cuire les aliments sans recourir au charbon de bois, cela ne va en rien améliorer ce problème de déboisement.
Le prix du bois chuterait, puisque la demande du bois aurait diminué avec la disparution de cette tranche de consommateurs et du meme coup d'autres consommateurs comme les boulangeries, dry-cleaning,..., acheteraient le bois à un meilleur prix.
En d'autres termes, les producteurs du bois trouveront toujours un marché pour écouler leurs produits bien qu'ils gagneront un profit plus faible à cause de cette décision de l'Etat.
Se travay pou nou mete nan peyi a si nou vle rezoud lot pwoblem yo. Ou pale kreyol toujou?
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 11:38
Ti pap
Ale an End an chinn pou wè foste deklaratyon w fè ya ke anpil moun nan yon peyi pa vle di mizè.Mwen deja di nou ke je m klere. lè map li ou byen map gade telvisyon se pa pou pase tan selman non maprann tou.poukisa gouvenman chinwa pran mezi ke koup chinwa pa dwe genyen plis ke yon sel ti moun?poukisa presidan Obama mande kongrè ya pou li ogmante bidjè pwogram kontrol kwasans popilatyon an?poukisa an end moun ap vann organn yo pou yo viv?Noté ke peyi sa yo bokou pi devlope ke ayiti.Alor sim konprann lojik w la byen menm si ayiti vinn genyen 15 milyon moun sa pap yon pwoblem si w dim mwen genyen movez fwa ou se yon rachitik bossu(lol)nan kapasite e rezonman w yo pou analyze yon pwoblem.Wi mwen deja di ke surpopulatyon pa selman yon kestyon de dansite popilatyaon fok nou konsidere li tou an fonktyoin de devlopman peyi ya.An ayiti nap enpote tout bagay ki jan pou fè dim ke surpopilatyon pa genyen oken rapor ak standard vi moun yo?
Ankor nan analyz ou fè sou konsomatyon bwa ou pa fè analyz la byen .ki sektè ki itilise plis bwa nan peyi pou enerji, boulanjery ,dry cleanning ,ou byen pep la ki itilise chabon pou kwit manje.Ou mandem sim pale kreyol toujou men an verite gen lè mwen konn peyi ya pi byen pase w.An nou pran vil o kap pa ekzanp konbyen boulanjerie ak dry Cleaning ki genyen nan vil o Cap?epok mwen tap viv la mwen te ka konte 3 boulanje. ak 2 dry cleaning ,mwen pa konnen pou koulyè ya ,men mwen pa kwè pwoportyon an chanje anpil ak moun ki ap itilise chabon pou fè manje.Kote li posib pou gouvenman pran yon dekre pou boulanjerie ak dry cleaning pa itilise bwa pou enerji ankor yo paka pran yon dekrè pou anpeche ayisyen kwit manje ak chabon koulyè ya.e menm is gouvenman ta mete yon kanpay de rebwazman an vigè si yo pa ba pep la yon lot alternativ e byen se lave men siye a tè mwen pa bay 50 lane ankor peyi saa ap tounen yon dezer.
Ale an End an chinn pou wè foste deklaratyon w fè ya ke anpil moun nan yon peyi pa vle di mizè.Mwen deja di nou ke je m klere. lè map li ou byen map gade telvisyon se pa pou pase tan selman non maprann tou.poukisa gouvenman chinwa pran mezi ke koup chinwa pa dwe genyen plis ke yon sel ti moun?poukisa presidan Obama mande kongrè ya pou li ogmante bidjè pwogram kontrol kwasans popilatyon an?poukisa an end moun ap vann organn yo pou yo viv?Noté ke peyi sa yo bokou pi devlope ke ayiti.Alor sim konprann lojik w la byen menm si ayiti vinn genyen 15 milyon moun sa pap yon pwoblem si w dim mwen genyen movez fwa ou se yon rachitik bossu(lol)nan kapasite e rezonman w yo pou analyze yon pwoblem.Wi mwen deja di ke surpopulatyon pa selman yon kestyon de dansite popilatyaon fok nou konsidere li tou an fonktyoin de devlopman peyi ya.An ayiti nap enpote tout bagay ki jan pou fè dim ke surpopilatyon pa genyen oken rapor ak standard vi moun yo?
Ankor nan analyz ou fè sou konsomatyon bwa ou pa fè analyz la byen .ki sektè ki itilise plis bwa nan peyi pou enerji, boulanjery ,dry cleanning ,ou byen pep la ki itilise chabon pou kwit manje.Ou mandem sim pale kreyol toujou men an verite gen lè mwen konn peyi ya pi byen pase w.An nou pran vil o kap pa ekzanp konbyen boulanjerie ak dry Cleaning ki genyen nan vil o Cap?epok mwen tap viv la mwen te ka konte 3 boulanje. ak 2 dry cleaning ,mwen pa konnen pou koulyè ya ,men mwen pa kwè pwoportyon an chanje anpil ak moun ki ap itilise chabon pou fè manje.Kote li posib pou gouvenman pran yon dekre pou boulanjerie ak dry cleaning pa itilise bwa pou enerji ankor yo paka pran yon dekrè pou anpeche ayisyen kwit manje ak chabon koulyè ya.e menm is gouvenman ta mete yon kanpay de rebwazman an vigè si yo pa ba pep la yon lot alternativ e byen se lave men siye a tè mwen pa bay 50 lane ankor peyi saa ap tounen yon dezer.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 11:46
Maten ou fini manje, vantt ou bien plen e wap chache yon moun pou goumen e malerezman se mwen ki tonbe anba men ou.
Avant d'aller plus loin, imaginez qu'il couterait à l'Etat $50 millions US pour démarrer votre projet.
Ne pensez-vous que l'Etat haitien pourrait utiliser ces fonds pour développer d'autres projets ayant une plus grande valeur ajoutée pour le pays?
Dois-je vous dire que la vie est une question de choix?
Ou genlè tap yon pi move prezedan ke Preval?
Avant d'aller plus loin, imaginez qu'il couterait à l'Etat $50 millions US pour démarrer votre projet.
Ne pensez-vous que l'Etat haitien pourrait utiliser ces fonds pour développer d'autres projets ayant une plus grande valeur ajoutée pour le pays?
Dois-je vous dire que la vie est une question de choix?
Ou genlè tap yon pi move prezedan ke Preval?
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Joel Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 11:48
Colo,
Mwen pa konprann lè w di ke anpil moun lan yon peyi pa vle di mizè pou sa.
Kouman fè la Chine ki genyen1.2 milya moun ap pran de mezi moun ta ka konsidere drastik pou yo fè popilasyon an vin anviwon 600 milyon pa 2050?
Yo ta gendwa kite popilasyon an ,ou byen ogmante ou byen menm jan ,si nou konsidere avans teknolojik an ap avanse tankou yon bòt 200 lye.
Yo di tou, Bengla Desh malgre ti pwogrè k ap fèt pa ka metrize pwoblèm li genyen akòz de dansite popilasyon an.
Ayiti ak Salvador lan Amerik se 2 peyi ki gen pi gwo dansite popilasyon.
Annou serye COLO,revize opinyon w,ou gen dwa fè tout sa ki posib pou mete travay e SITOU edike moun yo ki gwo pwoblèm ,men an menm tan tou AYITI twò piti pou tout kanttite moun sa yo.
Ou te mèt kreye 100 mil djob pa lane ,si w pa kontwole kwasans sa a se lave men siye a tè.
E lè peyi an genyen 20 milyon moun,sa ka rive anvan 2030,ki kote ap gen tè pou yo kiltive?
O!O!
Malis,
poste anvan mwen e nou di preske menm bagay
Mwen pa konprann lè w di ke anpil moun lan yon peyi pa vle di mizè pou sa.
Kouman fè la Chine ki genyen1.2 milya moun ap pran de mezi moun ta ka konsidere drastik pou yo fè popilasyon an vin anviwon 600 milyon pa 2050?
Yo ta gendwa kite popilasyon an ,ou byen ogmante ou byen menm jan ,si nou konsidere avans teknolojik an ap avanse tankou yon bòt 200 lye.
Yo di tou, Bengla Desh malgre ti pwogrè k ap fèt pa ka metrize pwoblèm li genyen akòz de dansite popilasyon an.
Ayiti ak Salvador lan Amerik se 2 peyi ki gen pi gwo dansite popilasyon.
Annou serye COLO,revize opinyon w,ou gen dwa fè tout sa ki posib pou mete travay e SITOU edike moun yo ki gwo pwoblèm ,men an menm tan tou AYITI twò piti pou tout kanttite moun sa yo.
Ou te mèt kreye 100 mil djob pa lane ,si w pa kontwole kwasans sa a se lave men siye a tè.
E lè peyi an genyen 20 milyon moun,sa ka rive anvan 2030,ki kote ap gen tè pou yo kiltive?
O!O!
Malis,
poste anvan mwen e nou di preske menm bagay
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Rodlam Sans Malice Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 11:55
Colo
Ou se pitit kakakok?se wou ki di mwen de movez fwa epi ou leve kanpe ou di se mwen ki ap chache moun pou mwen goumen.ki kalite kose sa?
ou di konbyen li ap koute gouvenman pou li mete yon pwogram konsa an vigè ;kombyen li ap koute gouvenman an poul edike 500.000 mil ti moun ki pa ka ale lekol koulyè ya nan 20 an se yon milyon wi ki pap ka ale lekol?konbyen li ap koute pou bati lekol , sant de lwasi, biblyotek, lopital, sant de sante, e tout bagay ke yon moun beswen pou epanouisman li?Ou di mwen tap fè yon pi move presidan ke Preval siw te bon dye mwen ta di w eseye m.pou ta wè resilta yo.
joel
mete en pe lojik nan tet Colo pou mwen tande.mwen bouke ,mezanmi ki kalite kose sa.
Ou se pitit kakakok?se wou ki di mwen de movez fwa epi ou leve kanpe ou di se mwen ki ap chache moun pou mwen goumen.ki kalite kose sa?
ou di konbyen li ap koute gouvenman pou li mete yon pwogram konsa an vigè ;kombyen li ap koute gouvenman an poul edike 500.000 mil ti moun ki pa ka ale lekol koulyè ya nan 20 an se yon milyon wi ki pap ka ale lekol?konbyen li ap koute pou bati lekol , sant de lwasi, biblyotek, lopital, sant de sante, e tout bagay ke yon moun beswen pou epanouisman li?Ou di mwen tap fè yon pi move presidan ke Preval siw te bon dye mwen ta di w eseye m.pou ta wè resilta yo.
joel
mete en pe lojik nan tet Colo pou mwen tande.mwen bouke ,mezanmi ki kalite kose sa.
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Re: Prezidan Preval Ap Make Poin, e Chita Sou Memm Tab Ak Obama
Invité Jeu 23 Avr 2009 - 12:00
Joel a écrit:Colo,
Ayiti ak Salvador lan Amerik se 2 peyi ki gen pi gwo dansite popilasyon.
Annou serye COLO,revize opinyon w,ou gen dwa fè tout sa ki posib pou mete travay e SITOU edike moun yo ki gwo pwoblèm ,men an menm tan tou AYITI twò piti pou tout kanttite moun sa yo.
Ou te mèt kreye 100 mil djob pa lane ,si w pa kontwole kwasans sa a se lave men siye a tè.
E lè peyi an genyen 20 milyon moun,sa ka rive anvan 2030,ki kote ap gen tè pou yo kiltive?
Daprè mwen, peyi nan mond lan popilasion li ap ogmante pi rapid se Lèzatazini.
Nan mwens ke 2 zan, Ayiti bay li plis ke 100,000 moun kote li refize 30,000 ladan yo.
Mexique ak Amerik latin lan ba li plis ke 20 million nan 8 dèniè ane yo si nou konsidere ke Clinton te bay tout mexiken ak lot ilegal yo papie avan li ale, sa vle di sa ki vini yo, vini sou Bush.
Annou di chak ane Ameriken bay 1 milion moun chans pou vini viv pa bo isit legaleman.
San konte pitit Ameriken fè.
Joel,
Moun sa yo ralanti ekonomi an?
Pa di'm ou dèyè chatre malere yo tankou Malice?
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