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AP – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, left, addresses journalist as South Africa's President …
By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer Matthew Lee, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 5 mins ago
CAPE TOWN, South Africa – On a mission to improve ties with Africa's most prosperous nation, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met Saturday with South African President Jacob Zuma and later toured a housing project she had visited twice in the past.
After talks with Zuma in the port city of Durban, Clinton flew to Cape Town, the country's top tourist destination, where she received a rapturous reception at a housing project on the outskirts of the city.
Clinton, who also visited the Victoria Mxenge Housing Development in 1997 and '98, was greeted by a marching band, singers and hundreds of screaming youngsters. She waded into the crowd, shaking hands and dancing with a group of a capella singers.
She was to meet later Saturday with former President F.W. de Klerk, who shares a Nobel Peace Prize with Nelson Mandela for their role in ending apartheid.
Clinton visited with South Africa's revered anti-apartheid leader while in Johannesburg on Friday. Mandela turned 91 last month.
The top U.S. diplomat, who is on the second leg of a seven-nation tour of Africa, praised a warming in ties between the United States and South Africa since the recent elections in both countries of new presidents.
President Barack Obama is eager to remake a relationship that had suffered during the Bush administration due to differences with former South African President Thabo Mbeki's government over the cause and treatment of AIDS and the crisis in Zimbabwe.
"In both countries there are two new administrations which are taking that relationship a level higher. That is what we are trying to do," Zuma said after the brief 45-minute meeting.
Clinton said that Zuma and Obama had told her and South Africa's foreign minister "to put meat on the bone, to get to work to make sure the expectations of President Zuma and President Obama are met."
On the table during her discussions with Zuma, Clinton said, were African issues "from Somalia to Zimbabwe to Sudan."
On Friday, Clinton and South African Foreign Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane spoke of a new era in U.S.-South African relations, with the launching of bilateral committees dedicated to improving economic and political cooperation.
Clinton said the Obama administration wants Africa to be a high foreign policy priority, and would rely on "the central leadership role that South Africa plays."
She welcomed what she said would be increased cooperation in the fight against HIV/AIDS but also called on the country to do more to press for reform in neighboring Zimbabwe.
Zuma's predecessor, Mbeki, was the main broker of the deal that brought about a unity government between Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe and the former opposition in March. Zuma, like Mbeki, has said the coalition is the only way forward to resolve the political crisis that has caused the economic collapse of the southern African country.
South Africa had resisted similar U.S. appeals to take a tough line with Zimbabwe during the Bush administration. But U.S. officials said they hoped the new South African government, in place several months fewer than the Obama administration, would adopt a more cooperative stance.
Clinton has also urged South Africa to take a leading role in driving economies across the world's poorest continent.
In a speech to South African business leaders in Johannesburg Friday, Clinton said that despite setbacks the country is "uniquely positioned" to propel economic growth throughout Africa if it sticks to sound financial principles, embraces open trade and promotes foreign investment.
South Africa is often described as the continent's powerhouse, more industrialized than most on the continent and not tied to just exporting a single commodity like oil or coffee. But in May, it officially entered a recession for the first time in 17 years.
Zuma has stuck to conservative fiscal policies despite concerns that his populist rhetoric and the support he's received from unions and the South African Communist Party would mean a shift to the left.
Clinton leaves South Africa Sunday for the oil-rich country of Angola.
AP – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, left, addresses journalist as South Africa's President …
By MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press Writer Matthew Lee, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 5 mins ago
CAPE TOWN, South Africa – On a mission to improve ties with Africa's most prosperous nation, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton met Saturday with South African President Jacob Zuma and later toured a housing project she had visited twice in the past.
After talks with Zuma in the port city of Durban, Clinton flew to Cape Town, the country's top tourist destination, where she received a rapturous reception at a housing project on the outskirts of the city.
Clinton, who also visited the Victoria Mxenge Housing Development in 1997 and '98, was greeted by a marching band, singers and hundreds of screaming youngsters. She waded into the crowd, shaking hands and dancing with a group of a capella singers.
She was to meet later Saturday with former President F.W. de Klerk, who shares a Nobel Peace Prize with Nelson Mandela for their role in ending apartheid.
Clinton visited with South Africa's revered anti-apartheid leader while in Johannesburg on Friday. Mandela turned 91 last month.
The top U.S. diplomat, who is on the second leg of a seven-nation tour of Africa, praised a warming in ties between the United States and South Africa since the recent elections in both countries of new presidents.
President Barack Obama is eager to remake a relationship that had suffered during the Bush administration due to differences with former South African President Thabo Mbeki's government over the cause and treatment of AIDS and the crisis in Zimbabwe.
"In both countries there are two new administrations which are taking that relationship a level higher. That is what we are trying to do," Zuma said after the brief 45-minute meeting.
Clinton said that Zuma and Obama had told her and South Africa's foreign minister "to put meat on the bone, to get to work to make sure the expectations of President Zuma and President Obama are met."
On the table during her discussions with Zuma, Clinton said, were African issues "from Somalia to Zimbabwe to Sudan."
On Friday, Clinton and South African Foreign Minister Maite Nkoana-Mashabane spoke of a new era in U.S.-South African relations, with the launching of bilateral committees dedicated to improving economic and political cooperation.
Clinton said the Obama administration wants Africa to be a high foreign policy priority, and would rely on "the central leadership role that South Africa plays."
She welcomed what she said would be increased cooperation in the fight against HIV/AIDS but also called on the country to do more to press for reform in neighboring Zimbabwe.
Zuma's predecessor, Mbeki, was the main broker of the deal that brought about a unity government between Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe and the former opposition in March. Zuma, like Mbeki, has said the coalition is the only way forward to resolve the political crisis that has caused the economic collapse of the southern African country.
South Africa had resisted similar U.S. appeals to take a tough line with Zimbabwe during the Bush administration. But U.S. officials said they hoped the new South African government, in place several months fewer than the Obama administration, would adopt a more cooperative stance.
Clinton has also urged South Africa to take a leading role in driving economies across the world's poorest continent.
In a speech to South African business leaders in Johannesburg Friday, Clinton said that despite setbacks the country is "uniquely positioned" to propel economic growth throughout Africa if it sticks to sound financial principles, embraces open trade and promotes foreign investment.
South Africa is often described as the continent's powerhouse, more industrialized than most on the continent and not tied to just exporting a single commodity like oil or coffee. But in May, it officially entered a recession for the first time in 17 years.
Zuma has stuck to conservative fiscal policies despite concerns that his populist rhetoric and the support he's received from unions and the South African Communist Party would mean a shift to the left.
Clinton leaves South Africa Sunday for the oil-rich country of Angola.
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
Marc a écrit:Pale moi de sa Pipo. Les chevaliers sont à l'honneur au Forumhaiti. J'ai toujours voulu des débats respectueux mais rigoureux au ForumHaiti. Lavalas existe. Lavalas a un grand nombre d'haitiens qui le supporte. On le sait. C'est pourquoi on tire sur lui et il faut tirer sur Lavalas. S'ils sont réellement le leader politique sur le marché politique d'haiti. Soyez conscients qu'il y a des challenges prets à faire sortir de cet espace politique. Joel kinbe , pa lage. prenez position pour Haiti.Il faut des pour et des contre pour faire avancer les idées et trouver des consensus pour lancer Haiti.
En avant , en avant dirait Capios...
SOU PEU GNB YO PRAL SIBI YON DEFET AUSSI PUISSANT QUE VERTIERES
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
wou wap pale de presidesyel kap vini an.A mon avis , lavalas ne pourra pas gagner seul les élections générales. On peut présumer qu'il y a plus de chance pour les présidentielles, bien sur. Toutefois , lavalas bral mange pousye la lesgislatif yo. sou 99 deputé li ka eli yon 20...
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LI TWO BONE POU FE PRONOSTIK
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
Marc a écrit:Se pou w louvri yon lòt sit ,paske nou fatige ak fachis sa yo.
Marc te louvri sit sa a ,paske jisteman nou te kite sit OPL lan ,poutèt sa fachis GNBis yo te fè l sa li deveni an.
Ou byen MARC fè sit lan retounen jan l te ye an,ou byen se pou COLO sil ta vle fè yon lòt sit kote moun ka gen konvèsayon ak sivilite.
J'ai lu avec peine la demande de Joël à Colo de créer un nouveau forum discussion . A cet égard, on peut se demander ce que veulent les débatteurs haïtiens ? Un forum pour débattre avec des pour et des contre . Un forum ou il y a seulement des pour.
Bien sûr, il y a des choses à corriger pour le bon fonctionnement du forumhaiti. A cet effet, je déplore malgré mes nombreuses demandes formulées aux intervenants du forum Haiti de cesser d’attaquer les autres dans leurs interventions . Ils ne m’ont pas écouté et ils continuent à échanger des insultes au lieu d'échanger des idées. Sur ce point, je ne suis pas satisfait du déroulement des discussions. C'est triste de voir que nous ne sommes pas capables de discuter dans un climat serein. Cela me rend triste.
Sur ce point précis, je voudrais renouveler ma demande de recentrer les discussions sur les sujets et de pas accuser l'autre dans vos interventions. Je crois que c’est la seule façon de faire passer vos messages et d’attirer les internautes vers ForumHaiti.
Joël
Si vous laissez ce forum pour aller en créer un autre, cela prouvera une chose que les haïtiens ne sont pas prêts à défendre leurs idées. Je dirais même que c'est un signe de lâcheté de laisser le forum Haiti à Deza , à Dilibon et aux autres. C'est comme si vous étiez dans un parti politique , vous le quitteriez pour aller créer un autre parce que vous n‘êtes pas d‘accord avec certaine personne. N'avez-vous pas assez des centaines de candidats à la présidence d'Haiti ? N'avez-vous pas assez des centaines de partis politiques tett chatt dans le pays.
Mon frère Joel, ne soyez pas découragé. Prenez position pour Haiti ici au forumhaiti . Haiti appartient à tous qu'il soit lavalas ou autre. Ne soyez pas honte de votre parti politique. Défendez lavalas. N'ayez pas peur de défendre votre parti comme eux ils n'ont pas peur de défendre les leur.
Merci de votre attention
Non,Marc
Ou gen tandans a fè ekivalans.Ou pa ka fè ekivalans ant Lavalasyen yo ak Divalyeris.
Mwen te ann Ayiti pandan monte Divalyerism lan.Se te yon rejim la terè.
Mwen sonje jou Avril 1963 a,lè frè Barbot yo te tire sou machin JCD an.
Kote w pase ou wè la fimen lan Pòtoprens.Bò zòn "Chemin des Dalles" sou Lali an ,la fimen fè kenken.Apre makout yo te fin sasinen fanmi BENOIT a ,yo te mete di fe lan kay lan.
E podyab nonm lan,li te inosan.
Ou rive bò mè Lali yo ,kadav a tè an,bò aviyasyon an plis kadav.
Jou sa a ,depi ou se yon moun ki te konn di kelkelanswa bagay ki negativ a pwopo de Papa Dòk ,ou te disparèt.
Pa vin mete Divalye ak Aristide lan menm fraz;se manke w ap manke inosan ki mouri sou diktati sa a dega.
Se pou w dakò ke bagay yo dejenere ,konpare ak lè ou te fèt fonde sit lan.
Gen de moun,si yo pa dakò ak ou ,se joure pou yo joure;e nanpren anyen yo pa p di.
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
Wou sonje Avril 1963, men wou p ap soufle anyen pou 17 Desanm 2001 kote Lavalas te fòje fo koudeta pou te ka debarase yo de tout opozisyon. Tout kote nen peyi a se te lafimen ak gwo zam k ap chante, moun pran pè Lebren pou dan griyan...
Lè nou menm Lavalas ap defann sanginè Aristide lan se derespektan pou memwa viktim ke li manje gran jounen yo: Marie Christine Jeune, Antoine Leroy, Jacques Fleurival, Durocher Bertin, Brignol Lindor, Jean Domonique, Maxime Desalmour, ak tan lòt ankò.
Non, nou pa dwe mete Aristide ak Duvalier nan menm panye, paske Duvalier se te yon gason kanson ki pat konn rele pou "blan vini vit" lè gouvènman li te an difikilte. Konpare ak ti poulèt Kayèt ki genyen fòs sèlman sou etidyan ak pezib sitwayen san defans. Men kan yo wè yon Chamblain ap vini, yo kouri san pantalèt.
Lè nou menm Lavalas ap defann sanginè Aristide lan se derespektan pou memwa viktim ke li manje gran jounen yo: Marie Christine Jeune, Antoine Leroy, Jacques Fleurival, Durocher Bertin, Brignol Lindor, Jean Domonique, Maxime Desalmour, ak tan lòt ankò.
Non, nou pa dwe mete Aristide ak Duvalier nan menm panye, paske Duvalier se te yon gason kanson ki pat konn rele pou "blan vini vit" lè gouvènman li te an difikilte. Konpare ak ti poulèt Kayèt ki genyen fòs sèlman sou etidyan ak pezib sitwayen san defans. Men kan yo wè yon Chamblain ap vini, yo kouri san pantalèt.
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
Thunder a écrit:Wou sonje Avril 1963, men wou p ap soufle anyen pou 17 Desanm 2001 kote Lavalas te fòje fo koudeta pou te ka debarase yo de tout opozisyon. Tout kote nen peyi a se te lafimen ak gwo zam k ap chante, moun pran pè Lebren pou dan griyan...
Lè nou menm Lavalas ap defann sanginè Aristide lan se derespektan pou memwa viktim ke li manje gran jounen yo: Marie Christine Jeune, Antoine Leroy, Jacques Fleurival, Durocher Bertin, Brignol Lindor, Jean Domonique, Maxime Desalmour, ak tan lòt ankò.
Non, nou pa dwe mete Aristide ak Duvalier nan menm panye, paske Duvalier se te yon gason kanson ki pat konn rele pou "blan vini vit" lè gouvènman li te an difikilte. Konpare ak ti poulèt Kayèt ki genyen fòs sèlman sou etidyan ak pezib sitwayen san defans. Men kan yo wè yon Chamblain ap vini, yo kouri san pantalèt.
JOEL
MWEN GEN LENPRESYON THUNDER SE YON NEG KI PA JANM MANGNEN YON LIV.OU DI MWENS DENYE FWA MISYE MANGNEN YON LIV,SE ZEMBLA AK BLEK-LE-ROC.MWEN PAKA KOMPRAN POU YON NEG KI DI LI TAL LEKOL ,SE SA LAP REMET.OU PA KA PRAN PRETETX OU PA GEN AKSE A KONESANS PASKE ,BO KOTE W YE A,GEN BIBLOTEK.LE W MONTE SOU NET LA,SE PA AL GADE PORNO....SE TRIS POU YON SERI DE JEN GASON.FRANCHEMAN SE DEKOURAJAN...THUNDER ,SE VREMAN YON EKZANP ENVESTISMAN INITIL.
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
M ap tann toujou anvan ke mwen bay tèt mwen jistis, paske mwen konnen ki kote pou m foure pye m tout longè e san grès.
Alò m ap tann.
Alò m ap tann.
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Thunder a écrit:M ap tann toujou anvan ke mwen bay tèt mwen jistis, paske mwen konnen ki kote pou m foure pye m tout longè e san grès.
Alò m ap tann.
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
Marc a écrit:Pale moi de sa Pipo. Les chevaliers sont à l'honneur au Forumhaiti. J'ai toujours voulu des débats respectueux mais rigoureux au ForumHaiti. Lavalas existe. Lavalas a un grand nombre d'haitiens qui le supporte. On le sait. C'est pourquoi on tire sur lui et il faut tirer sur Lavalas. S'ils sont réellement le leader politique sur le marché politique d'haiti. Soyez conscients qu'il y a des challenges prets à le faire sortir de l, espace politique haitien. Joel kinbe , pa lage. prenez position pour Haiti.Il faut des pour et des contre pour faire avancer les idées et trouver des consensus pour lancer Haiti.
En avant , en avant dirait Capios...
C'est pas meme croyable, Marc, ou we neg la chanje nom mwen li rele Mohamed al Dilibon, li joure mwen tout non pa genyen moun ki dil anyen e ou menm ou pa di anyen okontre ou di li pale mwa de sa? Monsher mwen sezi pa gen pann! Ciao!
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Re: Sekretè deta Hilary Clinton fè yon kout pye Afrik di Sid, Aristide te ekspektatè
piporiko a écrit:
SOU PEU GNB YO PRAL SIBI YON DEFET AUSSI PUISSANT QUE VERTIERES
Pipo,
Mwen te tande sou youn lan emisyon FANMI LAVALAS ,sou Radyo Solèy,ke kay ti ansyen pè deja repare.
Mwen te tande mesye ann Ayiti yo di tou ke y ap boule,yo an poupale pou retou an fèt anvan eleksyon ki ap vini yo.
Oumenm ki an kontak ak mesye yo,ou gen nouvèl,ou ka di plis?
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ma pale ak ou anprive.Gen move zangi sou fowom lan.
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Quand on n'a rien a dire on chante: la, la, la, la.
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