Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
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Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
Many of us fear death. We believe in death because we have been told we will die. We associate ourselves with the body, and we know that bodies die. But a new scientific theory suggests that death is not the terminal event we think.
One well-known aspect of quantum physics is that certain observations cannot be predicted absolutely. Instead, there is a range of possible observations each with a different probability. One mainstream explanation, the "many-worlds" interpretation, states that each of these possible observations corresponds to a different universe (the 'multiverse'). A new scientific theory - called biocentrism - refines these ideas. There are an infinite number of universes, and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death does not exist in any real sense in these scenarios. All possible universes exist simultaneously, regardless of what happens in any of them. Although individual bodies are destined to self-destruct, the alive feeling - the 'Who am I?'- is just a 20-watt fountain of energy operating in the brain. But this energy doesn't go away at death. One of the surest axioms of science is that energy never dies; it can neither be created nor destroyed. But does this energy transcend from one world to the other?
Consider an experiment that was recently published in the journal Science showing that scientists could retroactively change something that had happened in the past. Particles had to decide how to behave when they hit a beam splitter. Later on, the experimenter could turn a second switch on or off. It turns out that what the observer decided at that point, determined what the particle did in the past. Regardless of the choice you, the observer, make, it is you who will experience the outcomes that will result. The linkages between these various histories and universes transcend our ordinary classical ideas of space and time. Think of the 20-watts of energy as simply holo-projecting either this or that result onto a screen. Whether you turn the second beam splitter on or off, it's still the same battery or agent responsible for the projection.
According to Biocentrism, space and time are not the hard objects we think. Wave your hand through the air - if you take everything away, what's left? Nothing. The same thing applies for time. You can't see anything through the bone that surrounds your brain. Everything you see and experience right now is a whirl of information occurring in your mind. Space and time are simply the tools for putting everything together.
Death does not exist in a timeless, spaceless world. In the end, even Einstein admitted, "Now Besso" (an old friend) "has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us...know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." Immortality doesn't mean a perpetual existence in time without end, but rather resides outside of time altogether.
This was clear with the death of my sister Christine. After viewing her body at the hospital, I went out to speak with family members. Christine's husband - Ed - started to sob uncontrollably. For a few moments I felt like I was transcending the provincialism of time. I thought about the 20-watts of energy, and about experiments that show a single particle can pass through two holes at the same time. I could not dismiss the conclusion: Christine was both alive and dead, outside of time.
Christine had had a hard life. She had finally found a man that she loved very much. My younger sister couldn't make it to her wedding because she had a card game that had been scheduled for several weeks. My mother also couldn't make the wedding due to an important engagement she had at the Elks Club. The wedding was one of the most important days in Christine's life. Since no one else from our side of the family showed, Christine asked me to walk her down the aisle to give her away.
Soon after the wedding, Christine and Ed were driving to the dream house they had just bought when their car hit a patch of black ice. She was thrown from the car and landed in a banking of snow.
"Ed," she said "I can't feel my leg."
She never knew that her liver had been ripped in half and blood was rushing into her peritoneum.
After the death of his son, Emerson wrote "Our life is not so much threatened as our perception. I grieve that grief can teach me nothing, nor carry me one step into real nature."
Whether it's flipping the switch for the Science experiment, or turning the driving wheel ever so slightly this way or that way on black-ice, it's the 20-watts of energy that will experience the result. In some cases the car will swerve off the road, but in other cases the car will continue on its way to my sister's dream house.
Christine had recently lost 100 pounds, and Ed had bought her a surprise pair of diamond earrings. It's going to be hard to wait, but I know Christine is going to look fabulous in them the next time I see her.
Robert Lanza, MD is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is the author of "Biocentrism," a book that lays out his theory of everything.
This is like the Hindu philosophy, as well as (I think) the belief of some mystic organizations.
I've always been intrigued by metaphysics, but this one is difficult to grasp.
One well-known aspect of quantum physics is that certain observations cannot be predicted absolutely. Instead, there is a range of possible observations each with a different probability. One mainstream explanation, the "many-worlds" interpretation, states that each of these possible observations corresponds to a different universe (the 'multiverse'). A new scientific theory - called biocentrism - refines these ideas. There are an infinite number of universes, and everything that could possibly happen occurs in some universe. Death does not exist in any real sense in these scenarios. All possible universes exist simultaneously, regardless of what happens in any of them. Although individual bodies are destined to self-destruct, the alive feeling - the 'Who am I?'- is just a 20-watt fountain of energy operating in the brain. But this energy doesn't go away at death. One of the surest axioms of science is that energy never dies; it can neither be created nor destroyed. But does this energy transcend from one world to the other?
Consider an experiment that was recently published in the journal Science showing that scientists could retroactively change something that had happened in the past. Particles had to decide how to behave when they hit a beam splitter. Later on, the experimenter could turn a second switch on or off. It turns out that what the observer decided at that point, determined what the particle did in the past. Regardless of the choice you, the observer, make, it is you who will experience the outcomes that will result. The linkages between these various histories and universes transcend our ordinary classical ideas of space and time. Think of the 20-watts of energy as simply holo-projecting either this or that result onto a screen. Whether you turn the second beam splitter on or off, it's still the same battery or agent responsible for the projection.
According to Biocentrism, space and time are not the hard objects we think. Wave your hand through the air - if you take everything away, what's left? Nothing. The same thing applies for time. You can't see anything through the bone that surrounds your brain. Everything you see and experience right now is a whirl of information occurring in your mind. Space and time are simply the tools for putting everything together.
Death does not exist in a timeless, spaceless world. In the end, even Einstein admitted, "Now Besso" (an old friend) "has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us...know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." Immortality doesn't mean a perpetual existence in time without end, but rather resides outside of time altogether.
This was clear with the death of my sister Christine. After viewing her body at the hospital, I went out to speak with family members. Christine's husband - Ed - started to sob uncontrollably. For a few moments I felt like I was transcending the provincialism of time. I thought about the 20-watts of energy, and about experiments that show a single particle can pass through two holes at the same time. I could not dismiss the conclusion: Christine was both alive and dead, outside of time.
Christine had had a hard life. She had finally found a man that she loved very much. My younger sister couldn't make it to her wedding because she had a card game that had been scheduled for several weeks. My mother also couldn't make the wedding due to an important engagement she had at the Elks Club. The wedding was one of the most important days in Christine's life. Since no one else from our side of the family showed, Christine asked me to walk her down the aisle to give her away.
Soon after the wedding, Christine and Ed were driving to the dream house they had just bought when their car hit a patch of black ice. She was thrown from the car and landed in a banking of snow.
"Ed," she said "I can't feel my leg."
She never knew that her liver had been ripped in half and blood was rushing into her peritoneum.
After the death of his son, Emerson wrote "Our life is not so much threatened as our perception. I grieve that grief can teach me nothing, nor carry me one step into real nature."
Whether it's flipping the switch for the Science experiment, or turning the driving wheel ever so slightly this way or that way on black-ice, it's the 20-watts of energy that will experience the result. In some cases the car will swerve off the road, but in other cases the car will continue on its way to my sister's dream house.
Christine had recently lost 100 pounds, and Ed had bought her a surprise pair of diamond earrings. It's going to be hard to wait, but I know Christine is going to look fabulous in them the next time I see her.
Robert Lanza, MD is considered one of the leading scientists in the world. He is the author of "Biocentrism," a book that lays out his theory of everything.
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This is like the Hindu philosophy, as well as (I think) the belief of some mystic organizations.
I've always been intrigued by metaphysics, but this one is difficult to grasp.
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What a strange coincidence of nature !I was just thinking today about the many metaphors of space and time ,the peculiar property of a mathematical quantity known as the invariant interval of any reference frame in Einstein's theory of relativity. The impossibility of truly separating our perception of space from the physical reality of space ( whatever it is) occured to me again.We humans go about our daily lives forgetting that our experience of space is but a construct of the mind out of the information of binocular vision.
It is interesting that today's physics have given new life to to the world of magic for, it has laid the exploratory conceptual groundwork for the non-existence of past, present and future as we know it in our specific time-space continuum of human events.That which is to come ,when the average person can absorb it all,will be the wide-open door to the scientific revolution of the twenty-first century . Man will not be the same again.
In the meantime,our three-dimensional world is just fine...
It is interesting that today's physics have given new life to to the world of magic for, it has laid the exploratory conceptual groundwork for the non-existence of past, present and future as we know it in our specific time-space continuum of human events.That which is to come ,when the average person can absorb it all,will be the wide-open door to the scientific revolution of the twenty-first century . Man will not be the same again.
In the meantime,our three-dimensional world is just fine...
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AMEN I say to you!deza a écrit:In the meantime, our three-dimensional world is just fine...
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"Dans le temps" ,mwen te etidye teyori relativite men se an tèm fizik.
Kanta "quantum physics" ,lè NIELS BOHR te ekri ekwasyon e enplike ke "linivè" se yon bagay kawotik EINSTEIN pa t vle fin kwè lan sa ,paske misye te kwè ke "inivè
se yon bagay "amonye".
Men san BOHR ,konplèks elektronik pa ta ka posib,paske misye demontre ke w pa kapab predi pozisyon ekzak yon proton ak yon neutron ,se pa pwobabilite ke w ka atante solisyon pwoblèm sa a.
Kant a bagay pou yon moun ap di ke lanmò pa ekziste se "chalatanism"
Yon sèl jan petèt ke lè w mouri matyè òganik lan kò w ka sèvi pou alimante yon pte bwa .
Men pa gen sinatirèl."Le surnaturel n'existe pas"
Lè w mouri ,ou dezentegre ,pa gen anyen lan konsyans ou ki ekziste.
E moun ki kwè ke ta gen yon "after life",se tan pèdi ,pa gen sa pyès!
Kanta "quantum physics" ,lè NIELS BOHR te ekri ekwasyon e enplike ke "linivè" se yon bagay kawotik EINSTEIN pa t vle fin kwè lan sa ,paske misye te kwè ke "inivè
se yon bagay "amonye".
Men san BOHR ,konplèks elektronik pa ta ka posib,paske misye demontre ke w pa kapab predi pozisyon ekzak yon proton ak yon neutron ,se pa pwobabilite ke w ka atante solisyon pwoblèm sa a.
Kant a bagay pou yon moun ap di ke lanmò pa ekziste se "chalatanism"
Yon sèl jan petèt ke lè w mouri matyè òganik lan kò w ka sèvi pou alimante yon pte bwa .
Men pa gen sinatirèl."Le surnaturel n'existe pas"
Lè w mouri ,ou dezentegre ,pa gen anyen lan konsyans ou ki ekziste.
E moun ki kwè ke ta gen yon "after life",se tan pèdi ,pa gen sa pyès!
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
Joel,Joel a écrit:Men pa gen sinatirèl."Le surnaturel n'existe pas"
Lè w mouri ,ou dezentegre ,pa gen anyen lan konsyans ou ki ekziste.
E moun ki kwè ke ta gen yon "after life",se tan pèdi ,pa gen sa pyès!
Sou kisa ou baze-w pou rive ak konkluzyon sa-a, wap nonmin non Einstein sonje ke li pale e ki kwe nan sa.
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Kant a bagay pou yon moun ap di ke lanmò pa ekziste se "chalatanism"
Yon sèl jan petèt ke lè w mouri matyè òganik lan kò w ka sèvi pou alimante yon pte bwa .
Men pa gen sinatirèl."Le surnaturel n'existe pas"
Lè w mouri ,ou dezentegre ,pa gen anyen lan konsyans ou ki ekziste. E moun ki kwè ke ta gen yon "after life",se tan pèdi ,pa gen sa pyès!
Respe pou opinion an menm si li pa soude ak bon jan agiman. Nan demokrasi oyun nonm ka pense sal pi pito. Mwen ka di ke mwen konpwann ke lanmo se passaj de youn eta a youn lot paske Lespri pa ka mouri. Lespri ak konsyans youn moun genyen nan anvlop ki antoure li ke nou rele ko a pa ka ale anba te e kontinye eksiste!
Mwen konnen ke lespri menm le moun nan ap viv konn soti nan ko nan diferan period done. Pa ekzanp le wap domi, le youn gran male ak gran soufrans... lespri a konn kite ko a pou li libere li de ko'a. Genyen moun ki ka deplase lesrpi ak rapidite ekle pou ale nan lot pwen nan mond nan pou regle kek koze.
Genyen syanstis ki di ke nan pwan pati ko moun bay lto anpil fwa genyen pati komoun ki mouri a ki kenbe kek memwa de sal te konnen deja! Gyen lanmo, men se ko fisik la ki ale nan late, men lot dimensyon moun rete vivan e pase nan youn dimensyon de vi...
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
Joel,
Al chita deye w yon kote lan afe fizik ke w te etidye dan le temps ou an .Pagin afe Eve et Pechard sou moun anko . Avek teori fizik ki disponb kounye a gin model konseptyel ki chanje definisyon lan mor prezan passe avni . Eske w realize ke konsep le yo di yon moun mouri a chanje de tan ou te fett a jodya ? Mwin ta gindwa diou ke le transfert des genes d'une generation a l'autre nous assure l'immortalite et que nous ne mourons presque jamais .
W pa rinmin deba konseptyel ? W rinmin la routinn ? Ki sa tett di ou a paka konpwan la a pou wap jebede sou moun konsa a ? Sesa mwin di a wi neg tankou ou limite lan developman konsep abstre e li difisil pou nou sezi ak absobe anpil nyanss ki fe la diferanss ...menmjan ak pwoblem ou ak lang fransez la .
Pagin siepestisyon lan reintepretasyon konsep tan ak spass ke nou erite de Newton nan . Min yon ekzanmp tre konu : Yo prouve li deja lan eksperyanss teorik deu fre jimo ki fe yon eksperianss ( yo fel ak deu revey tou ) kote :
Yon rete sou la ter epi lot la ale lan lespass lan yon angin adekwa .Si fize a ap vwaje preske a la vitess de la limye epi sa pwan li vintan pou ale vini de la ter a kote li te ale a ,le misye tounyn lap jwen fre li a vieyi de vintan tan terrestre aloske li menm lot fre a ki te dan lespass la vieyi apepwe 1 an et demi.( diferanss lan depan de vitess fize a ).Teori jenewal relativite demontre deja ke gin yon diferanss fizik ou asimetrik antt yon fre kap vwaje dans lespass( kilan yon espass de referanss akselere) ak yon lot frer ki " stationnaire" ou ki sou la ter ( lan espass de referanss pa li ).
L'anarchie que l'esprit humain semble decouvrir dans l'univers est fausse ou sinon de la poesie scientifique .Le chaos que semble inviter la theorie de la relativite n'est que mirage de nos modeles .Regle numero un pour les non-inities :
L'espace et le temps peuvent varier d'in milieu referentiel a l'autre mais la separation combinee de l'espace-temps entre l'occurence de deux possible evenements ne varie pas : Elle est invariable .Par consequent, les differences que nous constatons suivent un modele mathematique qui revele un ordre universel compose d'invariabilites (vitesse de la lumiere ,par exemple ) a travers les references tempo-spatiales differenciees.
W konpwan sa se sinatirel ke li ye tett de bwa ? Mwin di nou afe dassoman nou an fok nou kite sa wi .Le nou pa byen metrize yon sije pa kouri al sou lintenet al pwan bett ke nou pa finn konpwan byen pou vinn sou moun pwan poz save nou epi desan kansan nou . Mwin pa kwe ke w byen etidye afe E = m*c au kare a.
Moi,je peux dire a mon tour qu'il n'y a pas des lois de la physique moderne qui obeissent a la mediocrote de la vision lavalasse . En plus , si vous voulez discuter de la theorie de la relativite , du quantum theorie et demontrer vos insuffisances dans un champ specifique de la connaissance et la faiblesse de votre maitrise a propos d'un sujet aussi important que difficile ,ouvrez un autre forum .Ici c'est le blog de Kami.
Au revoir dassoman de mes bottes !
Al chita deye w yon kote lan afe fizik ke w te etidye dan le temps ou an .Pagin afe Eve et Pechard sou moun anko . Avek teori fizik ki disponb kounye a gin model konseptyel ki chanje definisyon lan mor prezan passe avni . Eske w realize ke konsep le yo di yon moun mouri a chanje de tan ou te fett a jodya ? Mwin ta gindwa diou ke le transfert des genes d'une generation a l'autre nous assure l'immortalite et que nous ne mourons presque jamais .
W pa rinmin deba konseptyel ? W rinmin la routinn ? Ki sa tett di ou a paka konpwan la a pou wap jebede sou moun konsa a ? Sesa mwin di a wi neg tankou ou limite lan developman konsep abstre e li difisil pou nou sezi ak absobe anpil nyanss ki fe la diferanss ...menmjan ak pwoblem ou ak lang fransez la .
Pagin siepestisyon lan reintepretasyon konsep tan ak spass ke nou erite de Newton nan . Min yon ekzanmp tre konu : Yo prouve li deja lan eksperyanss teorik deu fre jimo ki fe yon eksperianss ( yo fel ak deu revey tou ) kote :
Yon rete sou la ter epi lot la ale lan lespass lan yon angin adekwa .Si fize a ap vwaje preske a la vitess de la limye epi sa pwan li vintan pou ale vini de la ter a kote li te ale a ,le misye tounyn lap jwen fre li a vieyi de vintan tan terrestre aloske li menm lot fre a ki te dan lespass la vieyi apepwe 1 an et demi.( diferanss lan depan de vitess fize a ).Teori jenewal relativite demontre deja ke gin yon diferanss fizik ou asimetrik antt yon fre kap vwaje dans lespass( kilan yon espass de referanss akselere) ak yon lot frer ki " stationnaire" ou ki sou la ter ( lan espass de referanss pa li ).
L'anarchie que l'esprit humain semble decouvrir dans l'univers est fausse ou sinon de la poesie scientifique .Le chaos que semble inviter la theorie de la relativite n'est que mirage de nos modeles .Regle numero un pour les non-inities :
L'espace et le temps peuvent varier d'in milieu referentiel a l'autre mais la separation combinee de l'espace-temps entre l'occurence de deux possible evenements ne varie pas : Elle est invariable .Par consequent, les differences que nous constatons suivent un modele mathematique qui revele un ordre universel compose d'invariabilites (vitesse de la lumiere ,par exemple ) a travers les references tempo-spatiales differenciees.
W konpwan sa se sinatirel ke li ye tett de bwa ? Mwin di nou afe dassoman nou an fok nou kite sa wi .Le nou pa byen metrize yon sije pa kouri al sou lintenet al pwan bett ke nou pa finn konpwan byen pou vinn sou moun pwan poz save nou epi desan kansan nou . Mwin pa kwe ke w byen etidye afe E = m*c au kare a.
Moi,je peux dire a mon tour qu'il n'y a pas des lois de la physique moderne qui obeissent a la mediocrote de la vision lavalasse . En plus , si vous voulez discuter de la theorie de la relativite , du quantum theorie et demontrer vos insuffisances dans un champ specifique de la connaissance et la faiblesse de votre maitrise a propos d'un sujet aussi important que difficile ,ouvrez un autre forum .Ici c'est le blog de Kami.
Au revoir dassoman de mes bottes !
Dernière édition par deza le Jeu 10 Déc 2009 - 19:01, édité 3 fois
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dilibon a écrit:Kant a bagay pou yon moun ap di ke lanmò pa ekziste se "chalatanism"
Yon sèl jan petèt ke lè w mouri matyè òganik lan kò w ka sèvi pou alimante yon pte bwa .
Men pa gen sinatirèl."Le surnaturel n'existe pas"
Lè w mouri ,ou dezentegre ,pa gen anyen lan konsyans ou ki ekziste. E moun ki kwè ke ta gen yon "after life",se tan pèdi ,pa gen sa pyès!
Respe pou opinion an menm si li pa soude ak bon jan agiman. Nan demokrasi oyun nonm ka pense sal pi pito. Mwen ka di ke mwen konpwann ke lanmo se passaj de youn eta a youn lot paske Lespri pa ka mouri. Lespri ak konsyans youn moun genyen nan anvlop ki antoure li ke nou rele ko a pa ka ale anba te e kontinye eksiste!
Mwen konnen ke lespri menm le moun nan ap viv konn soti nan ko nan diferan period done. Pa ekzanp le wap domi, le youn gran male ak gran soufrans... lespri a konn kite ko a pou li libere li de ko'a. Genyen moun ki ka deplase lesrpi ak rapidite ekle pou ale nan lot pwen nan mond nan pou regle kek koze.
Genyen syanstis ki di ke nan pwan pati ko moun bay lto anpil fwa genyen pati komoun ki mouri a ki kenbe kek memwa de sal te konnen deja! Gyen lanmo, men se ko fisik la ki ale nan late, men lot dimensyon moun rete vivan e pase nan youn dimensyon de vi...
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Dekilakyel prev syantifik wap vinn palem la, eske ou swiv sa la syans ap regle nan domenn sa'a? Non, paske se labib ke ou site ki genyen vese pou saw ap pale e ki genyen verset pou youn moun kontre di w tou. SI ou te lekol lontan ou tap konnen ke yo te dekri lanmo kom moman kote ke ou sispann bat, men lasyans reyalize depi kek tan ke ke a konn rete epi tet la ak tout ko kontinye fonksyone, jiskaske syantis yo reyalize chanje ke oyun moun pou mete youn lot! Sa vle di si definisyon lanmo chanje, le ou konsidere lot adisyon syans fizik pote tankou nan teks Kami sa nou rele lanmo a ka senpleman youn pasaj de youn dimensyon a youn lot! Si ou vle kwe ke apre lanmo pa genyen anyen se dwa w e pesonn paka diw pense otreman! Mwen ta sigjere w selman li plis sou sije sa'a epi wap rive ak youn lot konpreyansyon!
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Sise vre saoudi a poukisa w pa fe saou kapab saou vle tankou touye mouyn ansasinin moun pou vinn rich pou vinn pwissan paske pagin anyen ki ekziste apwe la mo dapwe moral paou .Eske seta vre ke w menm tou -si nap fe lojik - : SE IMAJINASYON NOU ,SE SANTIMAN ENPUISANS NOU OU BYEN NOU PE MOURI KI FE KE NAP VINN AK YON DIVIDAL TEYORI SOU APRE LANMO
Poukisa w pa kraze tout konsep de vi ki baze sou finalité sa a ? Nou tout fe plan paske nou konen ke jodla nap viv min demain ale pou vini we-pa-we anteman pou katre .Sise vre ke w kwe tout bagay kaba eske se lache ke w lache oubyen w menm tou w vle kreye pwop légende moral paou pou viv "sans crainte «, une autre lubie de l'intellect enflammé de théories ...?
Peut-on offrir l'hypothèse qu'au fond de cette différenciation gauche et bidimensionnelle se retrouve les mêmes éléments de la solitude ,de ses inquietudes inavouees et de la peur du poids de l'inconnu universel qui repose sur nos faibles epaules sans nous offrir un horizon familier ?
Poukisa w pa kraze tout konsep de vi ki baze sou finalité sa a ? Nou tout fe plan paske nou konen ke jodla nap viv min demain ale pou vini we-pa-we anteman pou katre .Sise vre ke w kwe tout bagay kaba eske se lache ke w lache oubyen w menm tou w vle kreye pwop légende moral paou pou viv "sans crainte «, une autre lubie de l'intellect enflammé de théories ...?
Peut-on offrir l'hypothèse qu'au fond de cette différenciation gauche et bidimensionnelle se retrouve les mêmes éléments de la solitude ,de ses inquietudes inavouees et de la peur du poids de l'inconnu universel qui repose sur nos faibles epaules sans nous offrir un horizon familier ?
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
piporiko a écrit:MENM BIB LA WI (KE MWEN PA KWE LADANL) DIT QUELQUE PART:LES VIVANTS SAVENT QU'ILS MOURRONT .LES MORTS EUX NE SAVENT RIEN".PA GEN LOT DIMANSION OU MOU,OU MOURI NET.
Kom dili te di-w ninpot moun gin dwa koupe yon ti moso nan labib la, sa pa vle di se verite, ou paka pranl kom prev pou you agiman, il est aussi vrai que Jesus a dit:
"Je suis le pain vivant qui est descendu du ciel. Si quelqu'un mange de ce pain, il vivra éternellement ; et le pain que je donnerai, c'est ma chair, que je donnerai pour la vie du monde." (Jean 6, 51)
"Moun ki manje nan pen sa-a, lap gin la vie net aler"
Exanp de la mort ke ou bay la, pa gin anyin poul we ak sa nap pale a. Reli teks la ankor.
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
kami a écrit:piporiko a écrit:MENM BIB LA WI (KE MWEN PA KWE LADANL) DIT QUELQUE PART:LES VIVANTS SAVENT QU'ILS MOURRONT .LES MORTS EUX NE SAVENT RIEN".PA GEN LOT DIMANSION OU MOU,OU MOURI NET.
Kom dili te di-w ninpot moun gin dwa koupe yon ti moso nan labib la, sa pa vle di se verite, ou paka pranl kom prev pou you agiman, il est aussi vrai que Jesus a dit:
"Je suis le pain vivant qui est descendu du ciel. Si quelqu'un mange de ce pain, il vivra éternellement ; et le pain que je donnerai, c'est ma chair, que je donnerai pour la vie du monde." (Jean 6, 51)
"Moun ki manje nan pen sa-a, lap gin la vie net aler"
Exanp de la mort ke ou bay la, pa gin anyin poul we ak sa nap pale a. Reli teks la ankor.
Ei nan menm Bib la genyen kote yo tal rele lespri ou byen nanm youn moun nan terinn! Nanm moun sa ki mouri ke yo rele pou bay enfomasyon an kote li soti? Si le moun mouri li fini?
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
Si nou aler sou site sa-a (anba) na jwen pati nan ansyen testaman ki pale de rwa Saul ki te al checher pale ak profet Samuel apre kel te fi-n mouri:
Et Saül dit à ses serviteurs: Cherchez-moi une femme qui évoque les morts, et j'irai la consulter.
Saül lui dit: Prédis-moi l'avenir en évoquant un mort, et fais-moi monter celui que je te dirai.
La femme dit: Qui veux-tu que je te fasse monter? Et il répondit: Fais moi monter Samuel.
La femme dit à Saül: je vois un dieu qui monte de la terre. [14] Il lui dit: Quelle figure a-t-il? Et elle répondit: C'est un vieillard qui monte et il est enveloppé d'un manteau. Saül comprit que c'était Samuel, et il s'inclina le visage contre terre et se prosterna. [15] Samuel dit à Saül: Pourquoi m'as-tu troublé, en me faisant monter?
Lire le tout ici:
http://www.ebible.free.fr/livre.php?_id=1s&_chap=28
Et Saül dit à ses serviteurs: Cherchez-moi une femme qui évoque les morts, et j'irai la consulter.
Saül lui dit: Prédis-moi l'avenir en évoquant un mort, et fais-moi monter celui que je te dirai.
La femme dit: Qui veux-tu que je te fasse monter? Et il répondit: Fais moi monter Samuel.
La femme dit à Saül: je vois un dieu qui monte de la terre. [14] Il lui dit: Quelle figure a-t-il? Et elle répondit: C'est un vieillard qui monte et il est enveloppé d'un manteau. Saül comprit que c'était Samuel, et il s'inclina le visage contre terre et se prosterna. [15] Samuel dit à Saül: Pourquoi m'as-tu troublé, en me faisant monter?
Lire le tout ici:
http://www.ebible.free.fr/livre.php?_id=1s&_chap=28
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Re: Does Death Exist? New Theory Says “No”
kami a écrit:Si nou aler sou site sa-a (anba) na jwen pati nan ansyen testaman ki pale de rwa Saul ki te al checher pale ak profet Samuel apre kel te fi-n mouri:
Et Saül dit à ses serviteurs: Cherchez-moi une femme qui évoque les morts, et j'irai la consulter.
Saül lui dit: Prédis-moi l'avenir en évoquant un mort, et fais-moi monter celui que je te dirai.
La femme dit: Qui veux-tu que je te fasse monter? Et il répondit: Fais moi monter Samuel.
La femme dit à Saül: je vois un dieu qui monte de la terre. [14] Il lui dit: Quelle figure a-t-il? Et elle répondit: C'est un vieillard qui monte et il est enveloppé d'un manteau. Saül comprit que c'était Samuel, et il s'inclina le visage contre terre et se prosterna. [15] Samuel dit à Saül: Pourquoi m'as-tu troublé, en me faisant monter?
Lire le tout ici: http://www.ebible.free.fr/livre.php?_id=1s&_chap=28
Mesi Kami paske mwen te li istwa sila'a lontan, lontan nan tan manman mwen te konn mete sou kwis pou li li labib pou mwen!
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