Renmen tout, pèdi tout. Men fè eleksyon 2000 yo.

Thunder Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 1:28

2000 Electoral Crisis Leads to Aristide Departure
Controversy mired the good start, however, when the CEP used a flawed methodology to determine the winners of the Senate races, thus avoiding run-off elections for eight seats and giving the FL a virtual sweep in the first round. The flawed vote count, combined with the CEP's failure to investigate alleged irregularities and fraud, undercut the credibility of that body. The CEP President fled Haiti and two members eventually resigned rather than accede to government pressure to release the erroneous results. Nonetheless, on August 28, 2000, Haiti's new Parliament, including the contested Senators accorded victory under the flawed vote count, was convened.

Through a number of diplomatic missions by the OAS, the Caribbean Community (CARICOM), and the United States, the international community had sought to delay Parliament's seating until the electoral problems could be rectified. When these efforts were rebuffed, Haiti's main bilateral donors announced the end of "business as usual." They moved to re-channel their assistance away from the government and announced they would not support or send observers to the November elections. Concurrently, most opposition parties regrouped in an alliance that became the Democratic Convergence. The Convergence asserted that the May elections were so fraudulent that they should be annulled and held again under a new CEP. Elections for President and nine Senators took place on November 26, 2000. All major opposition parties boycotted these elections in which voter participation was estimated at 5%. Jean-Bertrand Aristide emerged as the easy victor of these controversial elections, and the candidates of his FL party swept all contested Senate seats. On February 6, 2001, the Democratic Convergence named respected lawyer and human rights activist Gerard Gourgue as provisional president of their "alternative government." Gourgue called the act "symbolic," designed to protest flawed elections. On February 7, 2001, Jean-Bertrand Aristide was inaugurated as President. Notwithstanding the previous year's electoral controversy, the inauguration marked the first time in the country's history that a full-term president peacefully transferred power to an incoming president.
It did not, however, put an end to the political stalemate. OAS-mediated negotiations began in April 2001 to find a resolution, focusing on the on possible makeup of a new electoral council, a timetable for new elections, security for political parties, and other confidence-building measures. These negotiations made some progress, but were suspended in mid-July without a final agreement. On July 28, 2001, unknown gunmen attacked police facilities in Port-au-Prince and the provinces. A subsequent government crackdown on opposition party members and former soldiers further increased tensions between Lavalas and Convergence. On December 17, 2001, unidentified gunmen attacked the National Palace in Port-au-Prince. Following the assault, pro-government groups attacked the offices and homes of several opposition leaders. One opposition member was killed. Negotiations between FL and Democratic Convergence, already on hold following the July violence, were suspended indefinitely.

In January 2002, the OAS Permanent Council adopted Resolution 806 on Haiti that called for government action to address the political stalemate, growing violence, and deterioration in respect for human rights. It also authorized OAS establishment of a Special Mission in Haiti to support implementation of steps called for in Resolution 806. The OAS Special Mission began operations in March 2002, working with the government on plans to strengthen Haiti's democratic institutions in security, justice, human rights, and governance. Nevertheless, the climate of security deteriorated and a rapidly weakening economy created risks of a humanitarian disaster. The OAS Permanent Council adopted Resolution 822, September 4, 2002, which set a new course for resolving the crisis by: committing the Haitian government to a series of steps leading to an improved climate of security for free and fair elections in 2003; supporting Haiti's resumption of normal relations with the International Financial Institutions; and strengthening the mandate of the OAS to monitor as well as support Haitian government efforts to comply with OAS resolutions. It also conferred new mandates related to conduct of elections and disarmament.
Protest strikes and attacks on opposition demonstrations by government-supported gangs between November 2002 and February 2003 hardened attitudes on both sides. The opposition issued a public call for Aristide's removal and announced plans for a transitional government. In March 2003, a high-level joint delegation of the OAS and Caribbean Community (CARICOM) presented specific demands to President Aristide to restore public security and create confidence necessary to move toward elections: select new leadership for the Haitian National Police in consultation with the OAS; arrest Amiot Metayer, a notorious gang leader; and disarm the security forces used by government politicians to intimidate opponents.

Events spiraled downward: In June 2003 the new police chief, appointed in consultation with the OAS, resigned and fled the country 14 days later after being ordered to give up his authority over budget and personnel; government-paid thugs violently disrupted a civil society public ceremony July 12 in Cité Soleil; police attacked civil society marches in Cap Haitien August 30 and September 14 and prevented an opposition march scheduled for October 5. Amiot Metayer was murdered September 21 (it is widely believed the government ordered the murder to prevent release of compromising information). The government announced August 13 that it was re-activating a defunct CEP in what many interpreted as a move toward holding elections outside the framework of OAS Resolution 822. The OAS and other foreign observers, including the U.S., denounced these steps. To re-invigorate the process envisioned in Resolution 822, the OAS designated a Special Envoy for Dialogue in Haiti, Terence Todman, a retired U.S. Career Ambassador. Todman, a native of the U.S. Virgin Islands, undertook three negotiating missions to Haiti in September-October 2003. Political instability grew throughout fall 2003. In Gonaives, Metayer's followers, hitherto pro-Aristide, led a violent rebellion against government authorities in the city. Government-sponsored repression of opposition protests reached a nadir when on December 5 pro-government gangs entered Haiti's state university campus and broke the legs of the Rector.

Following a meeting with Aristide at the Summit of the Americas in January 2004, Caribbean Community leaders proposed a plan to resolve the political crisis. President Aristide stated he accepted the plan at a meeting January 31. However, as the plan remained unimplemented, a high-level international delegation came to Haiti February 21 to obtain agreement on specific implementation timetable. President Aristide agreed, but the opposition "Democratic Platform" group of political parties and civil society expressed reservations. Meanwhile, the violence in Gonaives culminated February 5 in the former Cannibal Army, now called the Artibonite Resistance Front, seizing control of the city. Other armed groups opposed to the Aristide government quickly emerged and succeeded in seizing control of many towns, mostly with little resistance from government authorities. By February 28, 2004, a rebel group led by a former police chief, Guy Philippe, had advanced to within 25 miles of the capital. On February 29, 2004 Aristide submitted his resignation as President of Haiti and flew on a chartered plane to South Africa.

US DEPARTMENT OF STATE.

Thunder Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 1:45

Tuesday, 11 July, 2000, 01:13 GMT 02:13 UK US considers action against Haiti

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The ballot paper of a candidate arrested during the vote

The United States is considering whether to take action against Haiti following what it described as "incomplete and inappropriate" elections there on Sunday.

It is not too late for the Haitian authorities to reverse this course and reaffirm their commitment to a democratic outcome of the electoral process
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State Department's Richard Boucher

The State Department said a number of Senate seats had not been contested properly and urged the Haitian authorities to remedy the situation.
Earlier, the United Nations Secretary-General, Kofi Annan, expressed concern that a second round of voting had gone ahead despite irregularities in the first round.
The opposition boycotted the elections, and international observers refused to monitor them, saying the first round had favoured the party of the former Haitian President, Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
Crucial poll
The poll - to restore an elected congress and senate which were suspended last year - was seen as Haiti's chance to restore democracy after decades of instability.

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The Lavalas Party, of former Preisdent Aristide, claimed victory in the polls and called for a dialogue with the international community. No official results have been issued yet, and the head of Haiti's electoral council fled the country rather than endorse the results.
A BBC correspondent in the region, Peter Greste, says the elections have been critical to Haiti. The country urgently needs an elected legislature in place to run the country after more than a year-and-a-half.
Haiti also desperately needs the $500m in foreign aid that donors have kept under lock and key until Haiti puts a legitimate government in place.
US criticism
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the vote was flawed by the fact that senate seats left undecided by the first round were not included.
"Failure to include in the July 9 run-off election the seats not won in the first round by absolute majority as prescribed by Haitian electoral law, make this cycle of parliamentary elections incomplete and inappropriate," Mr Boucher said.
However, in keeping with previous US remarks about the polls, he stressed that there was still time for the Port-au-Prince authorities to "reaffirm their commitment to a democratic outcome of the electoral process".
Anan's regret
UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Monday that he regretted that Haiti's Government had gone ahead with weekend elections.
Mr Annan said he "wished to express his regret that the electoral council and Haitian authorities chose to proceed with holding run-off parliamentary elections... without having resolved outstanding issues related to the first round."

Thunder Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 1:50

OAS Statement on Haitian Elections

Yesterday’s elections in Haiti for President and nine senators took place in accord with the timetable established by the Constitution of Haiti but without any correction of critical deficiencies in earlier local and legislative elections. Following the previous elections, which took place May 21, 2000, the OAS Electoral Observation Mission had reported that the computation of results by the Conseil Electoral Provisoire (CEP) followed neither the provisions of the Constitution of Haiti nor the Electoral Law.

Pursuant to OAS Permanent Council Resolution CP/RES. 772(1247/00) of August 4, 2000, the Secretary General has sought to foster dialogue "to identify, together with the Government of Haiti and other sectors of the political community and civil society, options and recommendations for resolving, as expeditiously as possible, difficulties such as those that have arisen from differing interpretations of the Electoral Law, and for further strengthening democracy in that country."

Between Aug 16 and Oct 20, four OAS missions, the first headed by the Secretary General and the last three headed by the Assistant Secretary General, produced substantial dialogue, but no consensus broad enough to achieve a national accord to resolve the political crisis in a manner that would elicit the support of the international community.

The decision of the Haitian authorities to proceed with the elections on November 26 despite the absence of such an accord avoids an interruption in the timetable for presidential succession established by the Constitution of Haiti, but does not alter the need to ensure the broad political representation and citizen participation critical to the development of Haitian democracy.

The Organization of American States is committed by articles 2(a) and 2(b) of its Charter to promote and help consolidate representative democracy and to assist Member States to establish conditions conducive to prosperity and peace for their peoples. True to these Charter obligations, the OAS remains ready to assist the government and the social and political forces of Haiti in their efforts to strengthen democratic institutions and to contribute to an environment of peace and security in the country.

Thunder Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 2:04

Thursday December 7 2:34 PM ET
Clinton Letter to Aristide Cites Democracy Concern By Trenton Daniel

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (Reuters) - President Clinton (news - web sites),

who sent troops to Haiti six years ago to restore ousted President Jean

Bertrand Aristide, has written a letter to him expressing concern over
democracy there following Aristide's re-election.

``The president cited the need for tangible steps in Haiti to build an
inclusive
society around the goals of justice and rule of law,'' U.S. Embassy
spokesman Daniel Whitman said late on Wednesday.

The letter itself was not made public, but Senate President Yvon
Neptune,
Aristide's spokesman, revealed on Wednesday that Aristide had received
a
personal letter from Clinton, dated Dec. 1.

Aristide won 92 percent of the vote in Haiti's presidential election on
Nov.
26, according to official results from the Provisional Electoral
Council. He
was scheduled to be inaugurated to a five-year term on Feb. 7.

Aristide, who was Haiti's first democratically elected leader, rose to
power a
decade ago after spearheading a grass-roots movement that toppled
decades
of dictatorship and military control. But seven months into his term in
1991,
he was ousted in a bloody military coup and went into exile.

Three years later a U.S.-led multinational force, widely hailed as a
foreign
policy success under the Clinton administration, restored Aristide to
power.
A constitutional mandate prevented Aristide from running for a second
consecutive term and in 1996 he passed the mantle to his hand-picked
successor, President Rene Preval.

In the letter, Clinton urged Aristide to resolve Haiti's electoral
impasse
stemming from tainted legislative elections held in May, Whitman said.

``The United States together with the international community has made
it
known to the Haitian authorities that their failure to address
well-documented
election irregularities puts into question their commitment to
democracy,''
Whitman said, paraphrasing Clinton's letter.

``Haiti must take steps to address the flawed vote count for eight to
10
senate seats, restabilize credibility for its electoral council and
restore the
confidence of the Haitian people and the international community.''

International election observers said 10 senate seats claimed by
candidates
from Aristide's Lavalas Family party in Haiti's May 21 legislative
election
should have headed to a runoff because no candidate won an absolute
majority. The Haitian government has defied repeated requests to
reexamine
the votes, saying the electoral council is an independent agency.

International allies, which did not send observers or financial aid for
the
presidential elections, have also criticized Haiti for using the same
electoral
council that oversaw the flawed May vote.

The electoral council, which organized the presidential election,
reported that
60.5 percent of Haiti's 4 million voters turned out. But the Caribbean
nation
group Caricom, one of a few independent observers to participate, put
the
turnout at between 15 and 20 percent. Opposition parties, which
boycotted
the presidential election to protest at the irregularities in the May
election, said
the turnout was less than 5 percent.

In the November election, Aristide's ruling party Lavalas Family also
took a
sweeping nine seats in the upper house of Parliament. Lavalas now holds
28
of 29 seats in the senate and over 80 percent of seats in the lower
house and
nearly all the mayoralties and town councils.

Thunder Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 2:19

(FindLaw) -- In some perverse way, the history of election fraud is also a story of human creativity. We are all familiar with certain tried and true methods of rigging elections: intimidating voters, stuffing ballot boxes or instigating a mass turnout of the dead. But there is always room for innovation -- as Haiti's controversial recent elections show.
The senate races were perhaps the most problematic aspect of these profoundly flawed elections. In a dramatic sweep, 18 of the 19 senate seats at stake in the elections went to candidates of the Lavalas family, the political party of former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide. Indeed, one lucky candidate received an astounding -- and improbable -- 92 percent of the vote.
In democratic countries, landslides of such proportions are rare. A closer look at the Haitian elections shows why this smashing victory was too good to be true.
Inflating the numbers

Nineteen of the country's 27 senate seats were up for grabs in this year's elections. In each of the country's nine departments, therefore, two of the three existing seats were to be filled, except for one department in which all three were available.
Haiti's electoral law establishes two rounds of balloting for senate races. The first round is intended to narrow the field to those candidates with large voter support. Haiti's numerous small parties -- some so tiny they are thought to consist of only the candidate and his closest friends -- make such a method particularly appropriate.

The Haitian Al Gore would be competing against not one vote-splitting Ralph Nader, but a dozen of them. Indeed, a total of 145 candidates ran for the 19 senate seats, an average of 16 in each of the nine departments.
In such circumstances, first-round election victories are difficult to attain. That is because under Haitian law, a candidate must obtain an absolute majority - more than 50 percent of the valid votes -- to win in the first round. Any seat not won by an absolute majority goes to a second-round election that pits only the leading candidates against each other.
Amazingly, however, Haitian election officials tallying this year's results reported that all 19 of the senate races were decided in the first round. Thus, officials claimed, there was no need for senate runoff elections.
This is truly hard to believe, especially when the senate races are compared to those of the other constituent body of the Haitian parliament, the chamber of deputies. Those parallel elections -- governed by exactly the same rules and similarly swarming with candidates -- led to wildly different and much more plausible results.
Only about a third of the 83 deputy races were decided in the first round. The remaining races were resolved on July 9 in the second-round runoffs. With the same voters and parties involved, why were the senate election results so radically different?
Uncovering the fraud

The election monitoring team of the Organization of American States was quick to find the explanation for this deluge of first-round senate victories. The team compared the absolute number of votes won by each candidate to the percentage of the vote that each was awarded. From this comparison, it deduced that not all of the votes were counted.
Instead, in each department, the Haitian electoral council had counted only votes for the top four contenders. (In the one department that had three open seats, the top six contenders' votes were counted.) The votes accruing to all other candidates were simply ignored. This bizarre method of counting grossly inflated the percentages accorded the two leading contenders in each department -- boosting many over the 50 percent-plus-one threshold necessary to avoid a runoff.
For example, there should have been a runoff in the North East Department where the leading candidates for the two seats garnered 49.7 and 46.4 percent of the vote respectively. But by counting only the votes cast for the top four candidates -- and thereby ignoring eight other candidates' votes -- the electoral council bumped up the leading candidates' percentages more than 20 points.
Defending the indefensible

When confronted by the OAS, the Haitian electoral council tried to justify its novel counting method. It asserted that the electoral law and related provisions of the Haitian Constitution were written to cover the situation of one senatorial race per department, without providing clear guidance when two or more senate seats are at stake.
But that's simply wrong. Granted, the constitution does prescribe that senators be elected for staggered terms of six years each, so that ideally only one senator is elected per department in any given election.
But the drafters of the 1987 constitution knew that the first time the new rules were followed, all of the senate seats would be filled, meaning that there would be multiple seats at stake in all departments. Similarly, the drafters of the 1999 electoral law knew that this year's election would have to fill multiple seats in all departments. Indeed, the law mandates a complicated set of procedures to address that very situation.
Moreover, the electoral law contains a careful description of the runoff procedures to be followed in the event that neither of the leading candidates in a given department garners an absolute majority.
This provision would make no sense if the electoral council's bizarre calculation method were used. Using that method, the leading candidate in every department is mathematically bound to win in the first round (and, as the overall results suggest, the second leading candidate is also extremely likely to win).

Sispann vòlò vòt pèp la! Sispann fè 6 tounen 9! Se pa sèl koudeta militè ki genyen, genyen elektoral tou. Koudeta se yon fleyo pou peyi Dayiti, men lè yon obsèvatè byen gade, l ap wè ke pifò nan gouvènman ki pran koudeta yo, te pran pouvwa a gras ak koudeta tou. Malgre ke se peyi an k ap peye sa, ti kouto ke w jwenn bò chimen, se bò chimen ke w pèdi sa.

Joel Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 11:37

tout bagay sa yo diskredite THUNDER,sispann repete yo.
Opozisyon CHAVEZ lan te wè sa k te rive ann Ayiti an e yo te eseye menm bagay lan.
Yo te di ke yo pa p patisipe lan eleksyon CHAVEZ ap fè paske misye ap volo yo ,men CHAVEZ pa t pete lan koton ba yo.
Eleksyon fèt ,CHAVEZ te gen plis ke 80% vwa,nèg voye pye e sa te rete la.
Lan menm ane 2000 lan te gen yon eleksyon lan Dominikani,PRD te genyen 29 syèj sou 30 lan Sena ak yon majorite lan Chanm lan.
Pa t gen anpil bri ki te fèt pou te di ke PLD te bezwen tout pou li,konsideran ke yo te genyen prezidans lan.
Pa gen sekrè THUNDER.
Tout bagay deyO.
Depi an 1999,gouvènman amerken an te konnen ki rezilta eleksyon an t ap ye;paske dapre COHA (council on hemispheric affairs)yo te jwenn ke opozisyon an pa t gen apwi 10%popilasyon an,TOUT OPOZISYON AN WI!
Se depi lè sa a desizyon te pran pou delejitime rezilta eleksyon yo,si ARISTIDE te patisipe
a

kakakok Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 13:17

Joel a écrit:tout bagay sa yo diskredite THUNDER,sispann repete yo.
Opozisyon CHAVEZ lan te wè sa k te rive ann Ayiti an e yo te eseye menm bagay lan.
Yo te di ke yo pa p patisipe lan eleksyon CHAVEZ ap fè paske misye ap volo yo ,men CHAVEZ pa t pete lan koton ba yo.
Eleksyon fèt ,CHAVEZ te gen plis ke 80% vwa,nèg voye pye e sa te rete la.
Lan menm ane 2000 lan te gen yon eleksyon lan Dominikani,PRD te genyen 29 syèj sou 30 lan Sena ak yon majorite lan Chanm lan.
Pa t gen anpil bri ki te fèt pou te di ke PLD te bezwen tout pou li,konsideran ke yo te genyen prezidans lan.
Pa gen sekrè THUNDER.
Tout bagay deyO.
Depi an 1999,gouvènman amerken an te konnen ki rezilta eleksyon an t ap ye;paske dapre COHA (council on hemispheric affairs)yo te jwenn ke opozisyon an pa t gen apwi 10%popilasyon an,TOUT OPOZISYON AN WI!
Se depi lè sa a desizyon te pran pou delejitime rezilta eleksyon yo,si ARISTIDE te patisipe
a

Joel se nomal pou kwe nan tonton Noel ! Joel Noel ...Se pa ni longe bab yo , ni koule barb yo , ni mete yon chemiz wouj ki fe yon neg sanble ni Chavez , ni castro , ni Lula ! ...Anplis sanble yon nonm pa fe ou genyen menm konviviksyon ak li .... E pi tou Joel li le li tan pou rekonet ke Preval pap regle anyen pou wou pa prokirasyon.....

Joel Mer 17 Mar 2010 - 13:58

Kok,

Se sa menm.Preval gen dwa pa p regle anyen ,men mwen pa ta renmen yo kapote l non plis;moun ki ta renmen ranplase PREVAL yo ,pi mal ke li.
Moun ki ap pale de Konsèy Deta,de Kou Kasasyon elt..se eleksyon lib e libè yo pa vle.
Yo bezwen fè pataj pouvwa menm jan ak 2006.
Lè w a pou eleksyon lib e libè,pou tout moun patisipe ,m ap dakO ak ou.
si w pou eleksyon pou LAVALAS patisipe lib e libè,pou gen yon moun,yon vOt m ap dakO ak ou.
Men ou pa vle sa,ou se poutchis ,si eleksyon lib fèt e ke LAVALAS genyen l w ap mande pou yo kapote l.
Se nonmen ou vle yo nonmen dirijan yo,e mwen kont sa absoliman.
pandan 2 syèk nou eseye sa ,li lè pou nou koumanse imite lOt peyi lan zOn lan ki te konn fè menm jan ak nou men ki sispann fè sa e ki ap fè pwogrè.

Epitou depi w ap entèvni sou sit sa a ,se yon sèl bagay,se ke ou kont LAVALAS ,li lè li tan pou w di pou kisa ou ye.

Thunder Jeu 18 Mar 2010 - 1:37

Joel a écrit:tout bagay sa yo diskredite THUNDER,sispann repete yo.
Opozisyon CHAVEZ lan te wè sa k te rive ann Ayiti an e yo te eseye menm bagay lan.
Yo te di ke yo pa p patisipe lan eleksyon CHAVEZ ap fè paske misye ap volo yo ,men CHAVEZ pa t pete lan koton ba yo.
Eleksyon fèt ,CHAVEZ te gen plis ke 80% vwa,nèg voye pye e sa te rete la.
Lan menm ane 2000 lan te gen yon eleksyon lan Dominikani,PRD te genyen 29 syèj sou 30 lan Sena ak yon majorite lan Chanm lan.
Pa t gen anpil bri ki te fèt pou te di ke PLD te bezwen tout pou li,konsideran ke yo te genyen prezidans lan.
Pa gen sekrè THUNDER.
Tout bagay deyO.
Depi an 1999,gouvènman amerken an te konnen ki rezilta eleksyon an t ap ye;paske dapre COHA (council on hemispheric affairs)yo te jwenn ke opozisyon an pa t gen apwi 10%popilasyon an,TOUT OPOZISYON AN WI!
Se depi lè sa a desizyon te pran pou delejitime rezilta eleksyon yo,si ARISTIDE te patisipe
a

Se sa ke m konnen, depi lavalasyen wè verite, zèl pouse nan do yo, yo te gen tan rive Venezyela, Kiba, Brezil... ala de traka konpè.

Joel an nou rete nan sijè an, sispann fè divèsyon. Di m eske lwa elektoral ak konstitisyon peyi an pat vyole?

Yon lòt kote wou pale de COHA ki te fè yon survey an 1999. Joel, mwen ta renmen jete yon koudèy sou kesyonè survey sa a pou m analize objektif survey an. Paske avèk yon senp kesyonè biase wou ka jwenn rezilta ke w vle. M ap bay yon ekzanp senp: Kesyon an gen dwa se "eske yo fè opozisyon an konfyans?", men sepandan yo pat poze yo kesyon "eske yo fè lavalas konfyans?". Epoutan, pifò moun pa fè ni youn ni lòt konfyans. Anplis, eske nan survey sa a, "sample" a te reprezantatif? Sa vle di eske tout sektè nan popilasyon an te reprezante selon pousantaj respektif yo? sinon ki kote ke yo te pran souch sa a... Joel genyen anpil kesyon ki merite repons anvan ke w lage jan de conspiracy theories sa yo ke gochis ap lote tankou patat nan Kwabosal.

Thunder Sam 20 Mar 2010 - 15:46

Mwen kwè ke Joel konprann sa mwen vle di l lan, yon survey pa oblije reprezante reyalite peyi an. Sa depann de kesyonè an, wou ka jwenn rezilta ke w vle.

Thunder Lun 22 Mar 2010 - 14:46

Joel!

Eske lwa elektoral ak konstitisyon peyi an pat vyole? Wi ou non? Sanble ke 2J yo bwè pwa?

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