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Message  Thunder Jeu 29 Avr 2010 - 8:22

RADIO HAITI INTER MARDI 19 OCTOBRE 1999
HAITI INTER FAIT LE POINT: DANY TOUSSAINT, PREND-IL LES ENFANTS DU BON
DIEU POUR DES CANARDS SAUVAGES ?


Un groupe de hurleurs, peut-il prétendre prendre en otage Radio Haiti
pour forcer nos micros à diffuser leurs accusations diffamatoires contre
d'honnêtes fonctionnaires publics et leur propos racistes anti-mulâtres?
C'est la question que nous nous sommes posées hier matin lorsq'une
quarantaine d'énergumènes bloquaient pendant quatre heures le boulevard
de Delmas devant notre immeuble?

Hurlements, vociférations, pierres lancées contre notre façade, nos
grilles violemment secouées. Devant notre résistance à leur terrorisme,
ils s'en sont pris à ma personne, avec évidemment les slogans macoutes
contre les "Ti rouge", contre les "mulâtres" et patati et patata. Des
habitants du voisinage avaient tenté en vain de leur faire entendre
raison. Non messieurs, Jean Dominique a toujours été de notre côté,
depuis 1980, en 90, en 91, sa façade en est témoin, des impacts de
balles des putschistes et durant tout le coup d'Etat, Radio Haiti
silence..., et Jean Dominique et sa femme en exil...

Les habitants du quartier ont tenté en vain de leur faire comprendre que
ceux qui attaquaient Jean Dominique, ceux qui attaquaient Radio Haiti et
ceux qui attaquent Radio Haiti aujourd'hui sont toujours les macoutes,
les Duvalier, les Bennett, les Jean Valmé, les Constantin-Mayard Paul,
les Cédras, les Michel François, les espions de grands bourgeois
fabriquants de médicaments empoisonnés, les Serge Beaulieu, les Gérard
Georges, les Isidor Pongnon, tout comme en 1991, les Namphy, les
Regala...

Ces braves gens qui voulaient dire la vérité se sont fait tabassés
devant les grilles de Radio Haiti. Tabassés. Alors d'autres voisins
avaient identifié les deux camionettes qui, venues de Pétion-Ville,
déchargeaient de temps en temps de nouvelles poignées de hurleurs, l'une
d'entre elles a été identifiée, c'et le H-5678.

Vouz voyez, on a ouvert l'oeil. Chauffeurs et manifestants interrogés
aussi, disaient naïvement avoir reçu quelques dollars du major pour
venir devant Radio Haiti. Du major? Dany Toussaint bien sur. Mais
pourquoi Radio Haiti Grand Dieu?

Durant la campagne déclenchée par Dany Toussaint contre Robert Manuel,
Pierrot Denizé et contre l'état major de la police, il circulait à
Tabarre la formule suivante, Bob Manuel, Pierrot Denizé et Jean
Dominique sont des "ti Rouge". J'étais donc depuis assez longtemps la
cible du parti de Dany Toussaint à l'intérieur de La Fanmi.
D'autre
part, au lendemain de l'Opération de police "Columbus", vous vous
souvenez, une campagne visant à faire main basse sur la PNH s'était
déclenchée dans tout l'espace médiatique putschiste de la capitale. On
savait entendre sur certaines radios Jean-Claudistes, un jour: "Bob
Manuel attaquait le gouvernement", le lendemain: "Dany Toussaint et
Jean-Claude Nord, diffamer Bob Manuel". Si les radios Jean-Claudistes
n'étaient pas gênées de passer du jour au lendemain de l'un à l'autre en
faisant tirer l'un sur l'autre.

Nos ennemis saisissent toutes les occasions pour nous destabiliser. Ici
à Radio Haïti, durant toute cette campagne de diffamation, nous avons
gardé la tête froide. Opposant à ces brèches du code pénal, justifiable
d'un tribunal correctionnel et à ces attaques racistes, dignes d'un
meilleur macoutisme, opposant notre ligne strictement professionnel
d'informations, notre silence et notre tenue avaient agacé DanyToussaint
et peut être ses patrons.


Bob Manuel une fois révoqué, ce verrou qui bloquait les ambitions de
Dany Toussaint ayant sauté avec une certaine légèreté, il faut le
reconnaître, DanyToussaint s'en est alors pris à Denizé et à Eucher
Joseph à la cathédrale et aujourd'hui à moi. Ce qui circulait donc à
Tabarre se réalise.

En me livrant à ces réflexions, je prêtais l'oreille quand même à ce qui
se passait dans la rue devant ma porte, constatant que les grafittis
contre ma personne, que les cris de haine proférés contre moi, que la
correction infligée à d'honnêtes citoyens voulant dire la vérité sur moi
ne me craponnaient pas, ils ont voulu alors négocier. Du haut de la
terrasse, je leur fis savoir que je n'accepterais les excuses qu'ils
disaient vouloir me présenter que lorsqu'ils auraient effacer tous les
grafittis me concernant, ce qui fut fait immédiatement. J'acceptai alors
de les écouter, d'entendre leurs excuses, mais je leur refusai le micro
en leur disant de transmettre à Dany Toussaint le message suivant: 1)
DanyToussaint a commis une première erreur; celui qui vous a payé, leur
ai-je dit, pour tenter de me terroriser, à commis trois erreurs. La
première samedi à la cathédrale, il s'agissait pour lui et ses accolytes
de profiter des funérailles de Jean Lamy pour organiser une
manifestation accusatrice et diffamatoire. Certes, ils ont diffamé
Pierre Denizé et Luc Eucher Joseph, certes, ils ont physiquement agressé
le directeur général de la Police Nationale, certes ils ont profané sous
les yeux du Père Jean Bertrand Aristide
un lieu qui aurait dû être sacré
pour tous: la Cathédrale de Port-au-Prince; sacré pour les croyants et
les non-croyants, mais DanyToussaint malgré ces quelques avances pour
lui, n'a pu réunir qu'une poignée d'individus à l'intérieur de la
cathédrale. C'était manifeste, malgré la mobilisation tentée évidemment
dans tous les médias putschistes avant cette messe de funérailles,
malgré ce qu'il disait de la sympathie populaire dont jouissait Jean
Lamy, il n'y avait qu'une poignée de manifestants, des parents et des
officiels à ces funérailles. Ah! Cela est une nouvelle preuve de
l'érosion tragique d'un certain pouvoir de convocation populaire qui se
constate à Port-au-Prince depuis quelques temps
.
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Message  Thunder Jeu 29 Avr 2010 - 8:31

(SUITE...)


Croyez-vous que vos ennemis ne constatent pas cette érosion?

Première faute commise par Dany Toussaint: En stratégie militaire,
étaler aux yeux de l'ennemi la faiblesse de son dispositif est une faute
parfois capitale, le mot Capital pris dans son sens littéral.

Dany Toussaint est-il un bon gendarme? a-t-il été un bon gendarme? la
réponse ne me compète pas mais il est certainement un très mauvais
stratège!

Deuxième faute: Enivré par le succès de la bousculade contre Pierrot
Denizé et Luc Euchère, Dany Toussaint se fait porter en triomphe sur les
épaules de quelques uns de ses hurleurs stipendiés, sous l'oeil
énigmatique de Jean Bertrand Aristide. Certes, les hurleurs voulaient de
lui comme directeur général de la Police mais Titid a l'oeil perçant,et
sait décoder les ambitions, et son sourire syhillin en dit long pour
demain mais ça c'est leur affaire! Ce n'est pas la mienne! Je ne me suis
pas battu durant 30 ans pour aujourd'hui décoder les querelles entre
petits chefs de Lafanmi Lavalas!

La troisième erreur: La 3e erreur de Dany Toussaint: il venait de la
commettre devant Radio Haïti, en s'en prenant à moi!

Réfléchissons un peu. Depuis la fin de l'opération Columbus, cette
attaque déclenchée durant des jours dans tout l'espace médiatique pour
amplifier ses diffamations, ses propos anti-mulâtres, comme le font
traditionnellement les macoutes,
pour marteler sa diffamation qui n'est
justiciable que du tribunal correctionnel or, s'en prendre à Radio
Haiti, tandis que tout l'espace médiatique le supportait,
l'applaudissait et le "voyait monté", qu'est-ce que cela veut dire? tout
simplement, cet espace médiatique affirme contrôler tout l'auditoire,
s'en prendre à Radio Haïti et vouloir forcer Radio Haïti à diffuser ses
propos, cela veut dire une chose: Seul compte pour Dany Toussaint
vraiment "être entendu à Radio Haïti".. Ah je réfléchis, la calomnie,
disait Choderlos de Laclos, est un hommage que le vice rend à la vertu,
et la deuxième conséquence devant nos détracteurs, c'est de souligner
l'indépendance Lavalas de Radio Haïti, indépendance de tous les centres
de pouvoir (soulignez)...


Revenons à la cathédrale: l'erreur de Dany Toussaint, pensant qu'un
petit caponnage, de quelques "chimè JPP" pourrait lui permettre d'avoir
accès à nos micros
, Ah ah, c'est sous-estimer 2 choses capitales:

Ici on ne donne pas la parole à n'importe qui!

On ne donne pas la parole à la diffamation, surtout pas dans la
diffamation contre d'honnêtes fonctionnaires et au racisme, que ce
racisme soit anti-mulâtre ou anti-noir, comme Olivier Nadal, récemment,
le pérorait mais ici -- Ha! -- on respecte des règles.


Nous savons que la vraie justice ne saurait s'exercer à partir de
hurlements d'énergumènes, plus ou moins, bien payés!

Nous savons que lorsque des cambrioleurs fuient la maison qu'ils
viennent de piller, ils sont les premiers à crier "Barré volè!" (barrez
les voleurs). Comment voulez-vous qu'un juge sérieux puisse prendre en
compte ces "Barré volè!" (barrez les voleurs) quand il enquête sur le
pillage d'une maison ... (cynical laughter) ... soyons sérieux!

Et puis, je me suis posé la question: Pendant toute cette campagne
déclenchée dans tout l'espace médiatique, Dany Toussaint ne m'a jamais
appelé, il n'a jamais appelé Radio Haïti ni lui, ni Jean Claude Nord
pour faire quelque déclaration que ce soit ou pour exposer quelques
résultats d'enquête qu'il affirme partout avoir réalisé après la mort de
Jean Lamy. Jamais! C'est étrange, ce silence!... Et puis il déchaîne
quelques ...pour me forcer à lui accorder le micro. La réponse est la
suivante: Dany Toussaint sait parfaitement que s'il venait m'exposer à
moi les résultats de son enquête, le professionnel journaliste que je
suis lui aurait posé, en privé ou publiquement, des questions qui
souligneraient les contradictions contenues dans ses déclarations
d'enquête, il le sait, c'est pourquoi il préfère passer par la rue pour
faire pression sur moi.

Le meurtre de Jean Lamy, l'agression contre Mario Andresol, l'assassinat
récent d'une dizaine de policiers, le meurtre d'Yvon Toussaint,
l'agression meurtrière contre Marie-Claude Calvin Préval a provoqué et
provoque chez nous, à Radio Haïti, l'indignation citoyenne et cette
colère Lavalas, là nous nous sommes battus pour la justice, la
transparence, la participation...
et nous accompagnons, comme tout le
monde le sait, concrètement avec un travail professionnel d'information
de journaliste, la préparation du procès de Raboteau. Nous sommes
peut-être les seuls dans l'espace médiatique à accompagner cette
préparation. Mais pour nous, il n'y a qu'un sentiment qui nous anime,
lorsqu'un individu se sert du cadavre encore frais d'un camarade pour
faire campagne pour ses ambitions personnelles !..le spectacle de samedi
à la cathédrale était pour nous, tout simplement, répugnant! Tels sont
les éléments des messages que j'ai demandé à mes trois interlocuteurs de
transmettre à Dany Toussaint.

Je terminerai par cette dernière considération :S'il persiste dans ses
tentatives de vouloir mettre quelques hurleurs devant Radio Haïti Inter
pour barrer le Boulevard de Delmas, il se cassera les dents! Les micros
de Radio Haïti lui resteront fermés mais je sais qu'il a des armes! Je
sais qu'il a la fortune qu'il faut pour payer et armer les sbires. Ici
je n'ai d'autre arme que mon métier de journaliste! Mon micro et ma foi
inébranlable de militant pour le changement, le vrai changement!


Et qu'il soit bien clair pour tous, je ne laisserai à aucun roulibeur du
monde le monopole Lavalas -- qui que ce soit!


Si Dany Toussaint tente alors autre chose contre moi ou contre la radio
et si j'ai la vie sauve, je fermerai le poste, après avoir dénoncé, une
fois de plus les manoeuvres et je prendrai une nouvelle fois l'exil avec
ma femme et mes enfants.


En 1991 des amis de Dany Toussaint ont tenté désespérément de faire "Dap
pignanp" sur Radio Haïti, j'ai su résister seul! Avec ma foi, mon
intelligence et mon expérience professionnelle. A l'époque, j'avais
compris que derrière quelques politiciens qui préparaient le coup
d'État, derrière des amitiés, parce que les uns et les autres étaient
dissidents et fréquentaient les salons de grandes dames de Lavalas!

Il y avait une volonté têtue manifestée par un.... J'avais compris, le
30 septembre 91 et par la suite, Jean Bertrand Aristide et René Préval
m'ont dit: Tu avais raison! On voulait prendre Radio Haïti pour préparer
un coup d'État. Voilà! Aujourd'hui je me pose la même question:Est-ce
que c'est la même manoeuvre? le père curé de Dessalines disait dimanche
devant le Chef de l'État: qu'il y avait de nouveaux putschistes qui
tentaient de déstabiliser le pouvoir. En 1991, j'avais dit à Jean
Bertrand Aristide et à René Préval: Méfiez-vous de Cédras, Titid
affirmait "Cédras et moi, on s'est marié." Triste mariage! Avec le SIDA,
Titid est têtu! Eh oui il est têtu mais il doit comprendre que ce n'est
pas sa personne seulement ni son sens du pouvoir qui sont en jeu dans
cette affaire.

Sur Radio Haïti, un lundi silencieux encore demain, ah ce sera un
silence à réveiller les morts, les cinq mille du coup d'Etat, entre
autre, c'est la vérité, il faut dégager de cette insignifiante tentative
de caponnage d'hier. C'est cette vérité-là qu'il est bon de dire ce
matin, la vérité d'un homme libre.

Tout à l'heure je citais un autre homme libre: de Laclos, je termine
avec un Shakespeare: "La vérité fait toujours rougir la face du Diable"!Merci!

We will not give vent to defamation, above all not to defamation against
honest functionaries and to racism, whether this racism is anti-mulatto
or anti-black...
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Message  Thunder Jeu 29 Avr 2010 - 8:32

San kòmantè...
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Message  Thunder Jeu 29 Avr 2010 - 17:20

Mwen kwè ke pawòl anpil lan fini, paske si se nenpòt lòt moun ki te ekri sa a, ti nèg t ap gen tan pran pòt vwa pou rele moun sa a "opozan", krazè peyi, moun ki anpeche ke Ayiti avanse, moun ki pa janm satisfè, e sa ki pli enpòtan... OPOZAN PèMANAN. Paske Jean Dominique fè 30 lane nan opozisyon.

Nou wè depi kilè ke mo "chimè JPP" ya ap paweze nan peyi an? Nou wè ke Jean Dominique te konn denonse yo tou. Alò moun tankou Joel, Sasaye, Jafrikaristide... ap sispann di ke mo "Chimè" an se yon envansyon ke moun ki pa vle wè "pèp" itilize pou rabese malere?
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Message  Thunder Jeu 29 Avr 2010 - 23:46

Mwen konnen ke pawòl sa yo t ap kite anpil moun bèkèkè. Mwen konnen ke ti nèg t ap oblije sispann radote sa yo pa konnen a pwopo de Jean Dominique. Mwen konnen ke Marc t ap sispann blame "opozan" sèlman pou eta peyi an, paske yo pa abiye tout sa ke Preval vle li menm. Mwen konnen ke Joel pa t ap ka di anyen lè ke se Jean Dominique k ap konpare Lavalas ak sektè ki pi di nan makout lan. Mwen konnen...

Editoryal sa a se te yon bonb froide ki te tonbe an Ayiti an Oktòb 1999, lanèj te manke tonbe. Entensite bonb sa a gen lè pa janm desann, paske plis ke 10 lane apre, li lage yon "froid de Siberie" sou fowòm Ayiti a tèl pwen ke tout òdinatè freeze.(LOL)
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Message  Thunder Ven 7 Mai 2010 - 23:55

Ah! Cela est une nouvelle preuve de
l'érosion tragique d'un certain pouvoir de convocation populaire qui se
constate à Port-au-Prince depuis quelques temps. Croyez-vous que vos ennemis ne constatent pas cette érosion?

M wè moun ap pale de fòs? nan kisa? ...kraze brize sou moun san defans, sandout. Paske pa genyen yon moun ki pou di m ke Lavalas se yon fòs pandan ke 50 gason mal ame, mal antrene fè yo kouri tankou ti poulèt kayèt ki wè konpè kòk k ap vini.





Kote fòs sa a ye la a?
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Message  Thunder Lun 24 Mai 2010 - 10:09

Thunder, lè mwen li sitasyon Jean Dominique ki anba tèks ou yo, sa fè mwen sonje yon foto George W. Bush k ap fete Kwanza epi k ap site pawol Martin Luther King Jr.

Ala yon lavi se lanmO!

Men tèks lan la a, li l epi bay opinyon pa w si w kapab. Anvan ke w vire diskisyon an sou mwen kòm dabitid.
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Message  Thunder Lun 24 Mai 2010 - 10:46

Mwen konnen ke w t ap rete bèkèkè. Se sa ki fè mwen te di w: bay opinyon w SI W KAPAB
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Message  Doub-Sossis Lun 24 Mai 2010 - 11:01

[b] Thunder,

se konsa yo ye..Partisans jures de la perpetuation du mensonge et du populisme coloriste

Oupa we yo retounen ak zaf'e "ti Rouge"la ankor

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Message  Thunder Lun 24 Mai 2010 - 11:09

WI! Doub la,

Jean Dominique te konn denonse rasis yo tèt kale. Se toujou se pa yo, se toujou se zòt. Mwen mete yo an defi pou yo demanti Jean Dominique tou.
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Message  jafrikayiti Lun 24 Mai 2010 - 12:52

#3563: English version of Jean Dominique's last commentary (CEP/CNO) (fwd)
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti-archive/msg03611.html


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Subject: #3563: English version of Jean Dominique's last commentary (CEP/CNO) (fwd)
From: Robert Corbett
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Translation of last commentary by Jean Dominique on March 27, 2000

"In the light of the concept of free, transparent, democratic and honest
elections, this should be the duty of of impartial observers? However, Mr.
Leopold Berlanger, the Coordinator of the Conseil National d'Observateurs
(CNO), is part of a coalition, working through Vision 2000, which is engaged
in the destruction of Lavalas. First Point.

Second point. The Senator Wesner Emmanuel at this microphone and publicly,
assuming his responsibility as a functioning senator, pointed out that Mr.
Leopold Berlanger (who at that time had no credentials or title relating to
the election process) during the December 16, 1990 presidential elections
convinced a computer operator to change the results of the senatorial
elections for the West. Senator Wesner Emmanuel further stated that he has a
taped recording of this conversation between the employee and Berlanger and
when this employee told Senator Wesner Emmanuel that the results of the
elections are not the ones being announced by the President of the
Departmental Electoral Bureau, Senator Emmanuel replied that he has a tape of
the conversation with Berlanger and that he would publicize this trickery on
the air. The employee considered this and then retreated and said that the
results are correct and then gave the original results.

Voila, so this individual is now a member of a coalition which for five years
has worked virulently with Vision 2000 against the Lavalas movement and this
same person is the head of a national commission to observe the elections
while in 1990 he tried to manipulate the results, and this is the person
President Leon Manus gave the power to receive all information and documents
related to the electoral process that should be sent to him quickly: First
point.

Second point, to have the monopoly of the electoral observers: that all the
national observers accredited by the CEP to observe the elections must be
recommended by the CNO. Total monopoly! This is the second point.

Third point, which is more critical. In the case whereh is no original or a
duplicate available the observer from the CNO can put together a report of
the balloting as he observed it. This report which contains the numbers
written out would be signed by the members of the head of the electoral
bureau and the observer from the CNO. So, here is Mr. Berlanger having the
power to put together the written report of the results of the vote.

Meanwhile, the electoral law is clear in Article 158: the written process of
the balloting is drawn and signed by the members of the electoral bureau and
in some cases by the representative of the party, groups, or political groups
who are officially recognized, or cartels or candidates. The written report
is prepared in at least six formally signed originals. If the representative
of a party, group, or political party, officially recognized, or cartels or
candidates refuse to sign the report, they will state the reason invoked or
alleged for their refusal to sign and these protestations have no immediate
value, and are only for future reference. The refusal to sign a report by
the representative of the electoral bureau has no effect on the validity of
the electoral operations.

The word observer never appears in Article 158. Never!

Article 159: An original of the written report of the balloting is attached
to the door of the electoral bureau by the president of the bureau and the
other originals are distributed as follows: one to the BEC, two to the BED
which transmits one to the CEP, two others go to the two representatives of
the candidates that obtained the largest number of votes.

There is no mention in the electoral law of an original written report or a
copy to be given to an observers named by Berlanger . No mention whatsoever.
The question we are posing now before further analyzing this text, which is
unbelievable, is the following: Is President Manus, the president of the
CEP, qualified to sign an agreement which contradicts the text and the spirit
of the electoral law?

We have noted in the course of the electoral process, with the passion that
you all know we have, the legitimate suspicion that there is a threat to the
process with the successive unpleasant revelations of the role of IFES inside
of the CEP and financed and directly manipulated by USAID. So, these
legitimate suspicions about the CEP are getting larger by that unbelievable
accord with the CNO. The question we are asking is the following: Did
President Manus sign this very important text to give Mr. Leopold Berlanger
the possibility of altering the results of the vote? Is President Manus'
signature in accord with the other eight members of the CEP? I already know
that one of them doesn't even know about the accord.

Secondly, Berlanger, who is the Coordinator General of the CNO, did he check
with the CNO to sign , negotiate and sign the text? Thirdly, it is written in
this agreement that all the documents should be directed to the executive.
Did they send this protocole d'accord to the Executive? I direct this
question to the President of the Republic."

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Message  Thunder Mar 25 Mai 2010 - 16:53

Se sak fè ke Jean Dominique se te yon Ayisyen total kapital. Li denonse TOUT sanzave kit yo an inifòm, kit yo an soutane. Kontrèman ak fanatik zye pete klere yo, kontrèman ak rasis yo, kontrèman apatrid yo, trèt yo, machann peyi yo.

Men yon moun ke mwen ka di klèman ke li te nan kote pèp-lan, e non kote yon ti club gangsters k ap plen pòch yo ak lajan leta e lajan kokayin.
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Message  Joel Mer 26 Mai 2010 - 10:02

jafrikayiti a écrit:#3563: English version of Jean Dominique's last commentary (CEP/CNO) (fwd)
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/haiti-archive/msg03611.html


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Subject: #3563: English version of Jean Dominique's last commentary (CEP/CNO) (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:21:52 -0700 (PDT)
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Translation of last commentary by Jean Dominique on March 27, 2000

"In the light of the concept of free, transparent, democratic and honest
elections, this should be the duty of of impartial observers? However, Mr.
Leopold Berlanger, the Coordinator of the Conseil National d'Observateurs
(CNO), is part of a coalition, working through Vision 2000, which is engaged
in the destruction of Lavalas. First Point.

Second point. The Senator Wesner Emmanuel at this microphone and publicly,
assuming his responsibility as a functioning senator, pointed out that Mr.
Leopold Berlanger (who at that time had no credentials or title relating to
the election process) during the December 16, 1990 presidential elections
convinced a computer operator to change the results of the senatorial
elections for the West. Senator Wesner Emmanuel further stated that he has a
taped recording of this conversation between the employee and Berlanger and
when this employee told Senator Wesner Emmanuel that the results of the
elections are not the ones being announced by the President of the
Departmental Electoral Bureau, Senator Emmanuel replied that he has a tape of
the conversation with Berlanger and that he would publicize this trickery on
the air. The employee considered this and then retreated and said that the
results are correct and then gave the original results.

Voila, so this individual is now a member of a coalition which for five years
has worked virulently with Vision 2000 against the Lavalas movement and this
same person is the head of a national commission to observe the elections
while in 1990 he tried to manipulate the results, and this is the person
President Leon Manus gave the power to receive all information and documents
related to the electoral process that should be sent to him quickly: First
point.

Second point, to have the monopoly of the electoral observers: that all the
national observers accredited by the CEP to observe the elections must be
recommended by the CNO. Total monopoly! This is the second point.

Third point, which is more critical. In the case whereh is no original or a
duplicate available the observer from the CNO can put together a report of
the balloting as he observed it. This report which contains the numbers
written out would be signed by the members of the head of the electoral
bureau and the observer from the CNO. So, here is Mr. Berlanger having the
power to put together the written report of the results of the vote.

Meanwhile, the electoral law is clear in Article 158: the written process of
the balloting is drawn and signed by the members of the electoral bureau and
in some cases by the representative of the party, groups, or political groups
who are officially recognized, or cartels or candidates. The written report
is prepared in at least six formally signed originals. If the representative
of a party, group, or political party, officially recognized, or cartels or
candidates refuse to sign the report, they will state the reason invoked or
alleged for their refusal to sign and these protestations have no immediate
value, and are only for future reference. The refusal to sign a report by
the representative of the electoral bureau has no effect on the validity of
the electoral operations.

The word observer never appears in Article 158. Never!

Article 159: An original of the written report of the balloting is attached
to the door of the electoral bureau by the president of the bureau and the
other originals are distributed as follows: one to the BEC, two to the BED
which transmits one to the CEP, two others go to the two representatives of
the candidates that obtained the largest number of votes.

There is no mention in the electoral law of an original written report or a
copy to be given to an observers named by Berlanger . No mention whatsoever.
The question we are posing now before further analyzing this text, which is
unbelievable, is the following: Is President Manus, the president of the
CEP, qualified to sign an agreement which contradicts the text and the spirit
of the electoral law?

We have noted in the course of the electoral process, with the passion that
you all know we have, the legitimate suspicion that there is a threat to the
process with the successive unpleasant revelations of the role of IFES inside
of the CEP and financed and directly manipulated by USAID. So, these
legitimate suspicions about the CEP are getting larger by that unbelievable
accord with the CNO. The question we are asking is the following: Did
President Manus sign this very important text to give Mr. Leopold Berlanger
the possibility of altering the results of the vote? Is President Manus'
signature in accord with the other eight members of the CEP? I already know
that one of them doesn't even know about the accord.

Secondly, Berlanger, who is the Coordinator General of the CNO, did he check
with the CNO to sign , negotiate and sign the text? Thirdly, it is written in
this agreement that all the documents should be directed to the executive.
Did they send this protocole d'accord to the Executive? I direct this
question to the President of the Republic."

WIFOUT,KOUMANMAN
Mèsi anpil,anpil JAF
Ki kote grapday Vizyon 2000,KISKEYA ,METROPOLE ak lòt yo t ap pase pou yo matrake moun ak bagay eleksyon konteste yo an?
Sa vin ranfòse pwobabilite ke koudeta 2004 lan pa t ap posib si JAN DOMINIK te siviv.Misye t ap nilifye tout konplo ki t ap mawonnen yo.
Yo di ke USAID te depanse 168 milyon dola pou koudeta a.AK JAN DOMINIK sou teren an yo ta mèt depanse 1 milya;koudeta a pa t ap posib!

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Message  Thunder Sam 29 Mai 2010 - 1:35

Sesa ke yo rele san koutya a. Se pwofite de lanmò yon moun pou w ap fè manti sou do l. Jean Dominique te ekri sa a anvan seleksyon chanpwèl 2000 yo. Bizango Lavalas yo konnen trè byen poukisa ke yo te manje misye.

Se sa ke yo rele fanatism lan. Pami tout sa Jean Dominique ekri, se sou yon sèl ke Joel ka opine. Apre sa li rete bèkèkè pou sa ki pa mache nan san l yo. Men kisa pou nou espere de li? Podyab! ...li se yon lavalasyen kòryas.

Fòk yo ta asasinen l vre,paske radòt 2000 yo pa t ap pase konsa. Mouche pa t ap mòde lang li pou denonse malendren. E bizango lavalas yo te konn sa.
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Message  jafrikayiti Sam 29 Mai 2010 - 10:42

O Thunder a gen lè pa wè nab je?

Gade dat la anko, 27 MAS 2000 - sa vle di se dènye entèvasyon PIBLIK Jeando fè. Kidonk, yon moun ki onèt, ki vle konprann ki sektè ki te gen rezon elimine Jeado 3 avril 2000, li pa fouti pase tèks sa a anba kabann.

Moun ki de movèz fwa yo, se sila yo ki fè bak plizyè mwa pou yo detere editoryal Jeando te fè pou li reponn Dany Toussaint ak ekip malandren ki t ap menase li yo. Yo renmen itilize editoryal sa a paske li ekspoze defo Fanmi Lavalas. Men, konbyen evenman ki separe chirepit piblik sa a ki pase nan ane 1999 epi zak sansinay la? Li klè Jeando te gen anpil enmi. Men, keseswa jan ou vire koze a, li klè, misye se youn nan moun ki te konprann depi byen bonè, BLAN YO PA VLE DEMOKRASI POPILÈ PRAN PYE nan peyi a. Li te denonse koudeta elektoral yo te vle fè ak menm ti klik parese ki vle moun rele yo "elit" nan peyi a. Yo pa janm pran tan bati pati politik ki gen nen nan figi yo, men yo vle pran pouwa gras a papa yo ki gen CIA ki la pou ede yo bay so kabrit detanzantan. Jeando te denonse IFES, li te denonse Vision 2000 paske li te yon nonm entèlijan ki konprann ni jwèt panten yo, ni manipilasyon mèt panten yo.

Onètete entèlektyèl ekzije nou admèt, mwens pase 7 jou anvan yo touye li, Jeando se Lavalas li t ap defann piblikman kont manipilasyon sektè koudetayis tradisyonèl la (blan tankou Ayisyen!).

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Message  Thunder Sam 29 Mai 2010 - 16:23

Atansyon!

Seleksyon dap-piyanp yo te fèt an Me e Novanm 2000. Sa vle di ke Jean Do te asasinen lontan. Menm jan ke Joel di ke li pa t ap aksepte se si, se menm jan w tou ke mwen ka di ke li pa t ap aksepte sela.

An nou rete baze nan deklarasyon l yo.

Menm jan ke Jean Do denonse IFES, Radyo Vizyon 2000, li denonse Lavalas tou. Pa vini ak "ekspoze defo" lavalas, se pou w di bagay lan klè, li DENONSE LAVALAS TOU KòM RASIS, CHIMè, MALANDREN...

E se sa ki fè ke misye se te yon gran Ayisyen ki merite respè. Li pat konn denonse yon sektè, li te konn denonse zak malonèt.
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Message  jafrikayiti Lun 31 Mai 2010 - 6:58

Verite osnon manti?:

mwens pase 7 jou anvan yo touye li, Jeando se Lavalas li t ap defann
piblikman kont manipilasyon sektè koudetayis tradisyonèl la (blan
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Message  Thunder Lun 31 Mai 2010 - 12:38

Se manti!

Rezon an senp

Sa nou pa janm ka dijere a, se ke misye pa t ap defann klan, li t ap denonse TOUT sa ke li panse ki nefas pou peyi an.

Nou menm ki toujou wè ke jodyè an ap bouyi yon sèl bò, nou konprann depi yon moun denonse advèsè nou, se pou nou ke y ap pran.

Jiska prezan ni wou ni Joel pa ka menm imajine pou Jean Dominique t a denonse lavalas, nou pito bwose kritik kòmkwa li senpleman "ekspoze defo" lavalas. Defo tankou :

_ Rasism

_ Itilizasyon chimè JPP pou entimide moun serye

_ itilizasyon taktik makout

_ Itilizasyon chato Tabarre lan kòm katye jeneral konplo chimerik ak difamasyon

_ Asasina politik

...pou mwen site sila yo sèlman

An nou antann nou mesye, ame nou de kouraj pou nou asime zak nou. Sinon n ap kontinye make pa sou plas.
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Message  jafrikayiti Lun 31 Mai 2010 - 14:08

Men sa yon manm òganizasyon Jeistis pou Jeando ekri. Se pa djèdjè k ap voye monte non!

Bonne lecture!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/ELI410A.html
Haiti: The Coup D'Etat of April 3, 2000


by Patrick Élie







<BLOCKQUOTE>
Once again, tragedy has struck Haïti!
On the very year of the Bicentennial of her exemplary Independence, she finds herself under foreign military occupation. Adding insult to injury, French boots are this time, part of the contingent desecrating her soil.
The vast majority of her people, poor peasants and their urban descendants, have once again been brutally disenfranchised, robbed of their hard-won citizenship by the Most Repugnant Elite, allied and subservient to hostile and racist foreign powers.
Although this tragedy came to a sudden conclusion on that fateful February 29, 2004, it was the result of a carefully and patiently crafted and executed plot. In a perverse kind of way, Haïti has made History again, proving unique albeit this time in her victimization. Coups d'Etat are usually swift operations, and even when announced by a long period of destabilization orchestrated and funded by imperialist power(s), as in the 1973 Chilean coup, the final blow is delivered by the local military. However, in the February 2004 “regime change,” the usual puppet masters had to step unto the stage and quite openly deliver the coup de grace themselves.
This “new and improved” coup d’Etat, resembles a slowly unfolding chess game, where unfortunately the Haïtian people was finally checkmated last February 29.
But, as is often the case, things are not what they appear to be; the outcome of that game had in fact been decided quite sometime ago, almost exactly 4 years before, on April 3, 2000, at 6:00 a.m. to be precise. Following this most tragic day all the agitation, maneuvers, feints and counter-feints, amounted to little more than the pathetic moves of a headless chicken, still trying to run away from the butcher’s knife. The minute those 7 bullets were pumped into Jean Dominique’s body, the Lavalas phase of the Haïtian popular democratic movement was, for all intents and purposes, dead on its feet.
In fact, the permanent silencing of Jean Dominique, was THE logical and indispensable prerequisite for the success of this new coup against the Haïtian people; the third in less than 20 years, if one includes as indeed one should, the pre-emptive strike of November 29, 1987, when voters where mowed down by the army assisted by FRAPH’s precursors. This conclusion, though reached in hindsight, is indisputable upon analysis of the nature and mechanism of the coup as well as the nature and extent of Jean’s influence on the popular democratic movement.
We are convinced, as were Haïti’s enemies, that JanDo would have detected this new conspiracy, exposed its sponsors, objectives and mechanisms, identified its local accomplices and rallied the national forces necessary to foil it. Using his microphone to project his great voice, harnessing his hard-won moral authority and his legendary powers of persuasion in face-to-face discussion, Jean would have single-handedly defeated this criminal plot.
We know many will doubt our assertion; indeed how could one man armed only with a microphone and a radio station stop the two juggernauts conspiring against Haïti; how could he have made a difference when the two imperialist powers who had done the most harm to the Haïtian people all through its history, combined their forces, one to subjugate, the other to humiliate and extract revenge.
Such doubts might come easy to those who don?t know the realities of Haïti and who have not witnessed Jean?s career and his tremendous impact on Haïtian politics during the last 20 years. Given the short attention span of international public opinion, specially where Haiti is concerned, they certainly would not remember how Jean had ridiculed and defeated a last ditch attempt by hired intellectuals to derail Haiti's first democratic elections, in December 1990, by warning against a plebiscite; how he had exposed and unraveled the attempt by the economic elite to harness the just frustrations of a significant fraction of the Haïtian masses and trick them into serving their project to strengthen their hold on the economy while regaining their monopoly on political power. The white knight of the bourgeoisie was Oilvier Nadal then, rather than Andy Apaid, and Jean paid dearly for daring to stand in his way: almost overnight most of Radio Haïti’s publicity contracts were cancelled. Later on, JanDo would similarly defeat a clever US sponsored plot to effectively disenfranchise the poor people of Haïti, but this time by cunning rather than by violence: electoral cards were to be issued sparingly in with a bias guaranteed to exclude most of the electorate likely to vote Lavalas.
Much more than a radio anchorman, much more than a political leader, Jean Dominique was our collective radar spotting the traps of our enemies long before they could spring shut on us; our lighthouse cutting through the fog of confusion that has slowly descended upon the Haitian popular democratic movement since 1994; our alarm siren whose blast would have awaken and chastised our political leaders the minute they started drifting into corruption or indifference to the plight of our people. For if Jean had friends in power, he never was a friend of power and he spared no one in his defense of the Haitian masses true interest. There is no doubt in our mind, that even someone as head-strong as Jean-Bertrand Aristide, would have been forced to hear Jean and thus avoid at least the most fatal errors and mistakes accumulated in the last 4 years.
As mentioned before, a close examination of the coup of February 29, 2004, would show why Jean would have been its most formidable opponent. For despite the spectacular saber-rattling of the small band of thugs armed and trained in the Dominican Republic before being let loose upon our country, they were but a small cog in the vast machine of political destabilization. Key to the success of the plot was the role played by the self-anointed “independent press.” From 1994 on, but specially since 2000, the majority of radio stations in Haïti had joined into an informal but very effective alliance against the Lavalas movement. Jean, ever the astute observer of Haïti’s political scene and a master at sniffing out the plots of our international foes, had noted as early as the end of 1994, the incredible number of new radio stations that had sprouted in the country under the military dictatorship of Cedras, at a time when there was no freedom of the press and the country was under economic embargo to boot. For him, it was clear that something was amiss: the enemy had decided to turn our most important weapon, radio stations, against us. Jean was the fiercest defender of freedom of the press, but he also understood this freedom to be at the service of a greater good: the right of the people to untainted information. All during these last 4 years, this right was being grossly violated by both the State-owned media, spewing a steady stream of indecent pro-Aristide propaganda, and by the “independent” radio stations drumming up a coordinated climate of insurrection and intolerance. No doubt Jean Dominique, even alone, would have remained the Haitian people’s trustful compass in these times of confusion and treachery. Moreover, the tremendous respect he commanded, even from his worst enemies, would have carried enough weight to force all his colleagues, whether state-employed or IRI-sponsored, into at least a modicum of respect for objectivity and ethics in journalism. With Jean gone, the press ran amok, with overzealous partisans of President Aristide making open threats on the State-owned television and commercial radios opening their microphone to convicted criminals, for their daily address to the Nation?.
Jean Dominique was our “army of one,” the political immune system of the popular democratic movement. For the abomination of February 29, 2004 to succeed, he had to be permanently removed from the scene.
We must fight relentlessly for his killers to be brought to justice and for the truth to come out about this brutal assassination. We stand convinced today, that if the triggermen and local planners were Haitians, the masterminds of the crime are the same who engineered the February coup and who have always considered targeted assassination as a normal tool of foreign policy.
Patrick Elie was Head of Security and Minister of Defense, in Aristide's first government.
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Sa a rete opinyon Patrick Elie, menm jan ke Jafrik genyen opinyon l. Si se pou estipilasyon sou sa ke Dominique t ap fè apre eleksyon bidon 2000 yo, pa manke sa. Se menm jan tou ke sektè ki pa fè pati de bizango lavalas yo fè konnen ke se lavalas ki touye misye pou yo te ka retire vwa mouche sa a nan tèt pèp lan anvan ke yo te kòmèt koudeta elektoral 2000 yo. Yo deklare toujou ke, san manman lavalas yo konnen ke Jean Dominique pa t ap janm aksepte vale konplo lavalas la ki te pou yo sekirize diktati sanginè yo a.

Si se pou estipilasyon, mwen ka mete twòp sou fowòm nan. An nou analize fè yo pito, epi verite ap blayi klè kou dlo kòk.

Wi se vre ke Dominique te genyen yon pakèt ènmi, e nenpòt nan yo te ka vide l atè. Si anpil sektè te ka genyen a ganye nan lanmò Dominique, men se sektè lavalas ki te genyen a kache.

Sa yo se fè, se pa opinyon:

The enquiry into Dominique’s death began with several false leads. A few days after he was killed, the body of his murderer was said to have been found, but it proved that the suspect had died three days before the murder. A few weeks later, Bob Lecorps, accused in 1997 of helping to murder justice minister Guy Malary in 1993, was arrested as he tried to cross into the Dominican Republic. He was soon released for want of a link to the Dominique killing.

Nearly 80 people have been questioned by judges Jean Sénat Fleury and Claudy Gassant, who have successively been preparing the case of Dominique’s murder. The investigators have found that:
_ The killing was planned in the course of several meetings.
_ The day of the murder, the killers were lying in wait outside the radio station. There were seven of them: two gunmen and five accomplices who waited in three vehicles - a red Nissan Pathfinder in which the gunmen got away, a white Cherokee jeep and a small truck parked a little further away.
_ Despite the different kinds of bullets found in Dominique’s and Louissant’s bodies, they probably came from the same gun, which has not been found.
_ Two of the vehicles, the Cherokee and the Nissan, had been stolen and already used to commit other crimes. The third vehicle was found burned-out.

No mastermind in the killing has been questioned but six people have been jailed for being directly or indirectly involved.
_ The suspected killer, Jamely Millien, known as Ti Lou, who was arrested about 10 days after the crime.
_ The second gunman, Jean Daniel Jeudi (known as Gime), Ti Lou’s brother, whose job was to cover him during the shooting. He was arrested a few weeks after the investigation began.
_ A person known to have had contacts with people working in the presidential palace.
_ Philippe Markington, an informer selling information he got through his access to many institutions. He presented himself to investigators a few days after the murder, claiming he had seen everything because, he said, he had been at the scene by chance. He was ready to cooperate with the enquiry in exchange for the release from prison of a friend. The accuracy of his descriptions made police suspect he had in fact taken part in the killing. He provided the numbers of two of the vehicles involved and said where the third vehicle had been abandoned.. fi Two policemen, one of whom, Ralph Léger, was arrested in possession of the white Cherokee jeep.

An investigation by Ana Arana for the Inter-American Press Association (IAPA), published on 12 March 2001, said the first three of the above had links with Ronald Camille (known as Ronald Cadavre), the suspected head of several criminal organisations and a man with a long criminal record. His name was mentioned in an enquiry into the murder of opposition senator Yvon Toussaint. Cadavre is thought to control networks of stolen vehicles and weapons in the capital’s port area and to run extortion rackets. Arana says his domain extends from the port to the central market. Cadavre, who has reportedly just won control of the port security service, was questioned by the examining magistrate. His brother Franco is a member of Aristide’s Fanmi Lavalas party
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Men toujou...

The mysterious death of Jean-Wilner Lalanne


As they looked into the origin of the stolen vehicles used in the killing, the investigators came across Jean-Wilner Lalanne, who worked for a network handling stolen cars. He had been arrested in connection with the murder of an engineer in a Port-au-Prince suburb and then freed in unclear circumstances. Lalanne was arrested again on 15 June 2000 as a suspected link between the gunmen and those who ordered the killing of Dominique. He was shot and wounded in the buttocks and thigh when he was detained and died 13 days later during an operation to mend a broken thigh-bone. The exact cause of his death has not been established. The orthopaedic surgeon who performed the operation, Dr Alix Charles, said he died from a pulmonary embolism, but this appears to be contradicted by the autopsy. Two months later, when a second autopsy was ordered, it was found that Lalanne’s body had mysteriously disappeared a few weeks earlier. The examining magistrate has opened an enquiry. In early July, a few days after Lalanne died, Radio Haiti Inter raised questions about why there was violence when he was arrested. Three of those arrested for suspected involvement in the Dominique killing, including the suspected gunman, Ti Lou, were wounded in the course of being detained. After his arrest, Lalanne said several times he was afraid of being murdered. He was not guarded during his first days in hospital and people were able to visit him without the presence of police. In the 13 days before his operation, he was questioned just once by the examining magistrate, who only asked him about the murder of the engineer.

Lalanne had chosen another doctor for the operation, but it was done by Dr Charles. On 28 June, he was transferred from the general hospital to the Saint-François de Sales hospital where Charles operated the same afternoon, helped by a Dr Delaneau and two anaesthetists, Marie Yves-Rose Chrisostome and Gina Georges. Charles is being investigated on suspicion of manslaughter, but has not yet responded to a summons to appear before a judge. Four other people are in jail in connection with Lalanne’s death.

A number of people have wondered about the links between Charles and Dany Toussaint. Charles is a friend of Richard Salomon, said to be Toussaint’s right-hand man. It was Lalanne’s lawyer, Ephésien Joassaint, who asked Charles to operate. Joassaint had been recommended to Lalanne by Jean-Claude Nord, Toussaint’s lawyer.
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Obstruction by the Senate


Judge Claudy Gassant, who had been in charge of the case since September, asked Sen. Toussaint in early November to present himself for questioning. Senators claimed Toussaint had parliamentary immunity and did not have to respond, but the Constitution says such immunity only applies when the member of parliament risks arrest, which was not the case.[/b](Yon sena ki genyen 95% Lavalasyen)
Pressure on the judge became very heavy. [b]The Senate president, Yvon Neptune, said that "an insignificant little judge" could not summon a member of the Senate, whose members threatened to "investigate the precise reasons" for the judge wanting to talk to Toussaint. An associate of Sen. Prince Pierre Sonson said he had been threatened after Sonson called on Toussaint to go before the judge.


Judge Gassant was threatened on 30 January 2001 by a parliamentary deputy, Millien Rommage, a former assistant chief of presidential security and associate of Toussaint. The judge had just been questioning some of Toussaint’s associates when Rommage and a carload of heavily-armed men intercepted his car and warned him that "if he continued," his car might be fired on.
Toussaint finally asked permission from Senate president Neptune on 21 February to go to see judge Gassant, who subsequently questioned him on several occasions.
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Pressure on the judges


Holding up a copy of the Constitution, Judge Gassant told the Reporters Sans Frontières delegation that he intended to use all his powers under the law to complete his examination of the Dominique case. But he said he was up against the hostility and customary behaviour of certain social classes and professions.

In March, a group of lawyers, including the head of the bar association, Rigaud Duplan, criticised Gassant for not allowing lawyers to be present while he heard evidence from people in the Dominique case. The presence of lawyers is usually accepted, Gassant noted, but is not obligatory under the official criminal investigation guidelines. A few weeks earlier, he had run into resistance from a number of doctors and from the university medical school, who objected to him coming to investigate on their premises. In February, Gassant was reproached by parliamentary deputies for "illegally" arresting someone in the parliamentary compound, while in fact the person had been detained on the orders of the president of the Chamber of Deputies, Pierre Paul Cotin.

Judge Gassant said he was shocked that the IAPA report contained the names of the people arrested and jailed, who he said were supposed to be protected by the confidentiality of the investigation. He was being guarded by four policemen, he said, and at the height of his conflict with the Senate, he had been escorted by five members of the Swat special operations police. His family was living abroad and he regularly changed his place of residence. One day, three members of his police escort simply left, fearing for their safety.

His predecessor, Judge Jean Sénat Fleury, decide to drop the case after receiving threats. When he summoned Toussaint to give evidence in the Dominique case on 26 July 2000, before he had taken up his post as senator, he turned up with a group of "chimères" – hired demonstrators from the capital’s slums – who shouted insults outside the main law courts where the meeting with Fleury took place.

Dominique’s widow Michèle no longer receives anonymous calls but her life is still in danger. "I weigh the threats by the number of bodyguards I’m given at any time," she says, noting that they were doubled during the dispute between Gassant and the Senate. Reflecting that she could well have been with her husband when he was shot, she says she is living on borrowed time. As one judge put it, "this kind of affair can cost you your life."
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M ap repete ankò ke: Chaje ak moun ki genyen enterè nan lanmò Dominique. Men konbyen nan yo ki genyen a kache? ...epouki rezon?

Si se moun ki te fè "koudeta" 2004 yo ki te asasinen Dominique, kòman fè se Lavalas ki t ap mete baton nan wou ankèt lan jis yo disparèt tout evidans Question Question Question
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