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It was a coup d'état - I participated (video interview with RAM)

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Message  jafrikayiti Dim 21 Nov 2010 - 10:23

Part 5 -- "Washington and The Families"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQO4DtfHa6E

In this segment, RAM explains what he considers Washington's influence in Haiti and why it has not been positive in the recent past.

Part 6 -- "It was a coup, I participated!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh8J6HCe4w

In this segment, RAM explains his rationale for taking part in the February 2004 coup d'état that toppled the government of president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. He claims to have attended coup-plotting meetings in Washington. I asked him whether, now in 2010, he has any regrets. Can you guess his answer?

The full interview, including the English segments (Part 5 forward) will continue to be posted on Youtube over the coming days.

Coming very soon...

Part 7 - "Did Aristide steal the 2000 elections"

N.B.: The first segment (parts 1-4) is available in Kreyol and covers a range of topics that may help shed light on current events unfolding in Haiti, as the nation braces for the final days of Y2010.

See: https://www.youtube.com/user/jafrikayiti

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ou te dwe mande l poukisa li pat ba georges bush yon kou deta tou.ou poukisa yo pat ba Nixon yon kou deta tou apre ke jandam gad natyonal yo te youye etidyan yo nan kent University?poukisa li pat peye mèsenè pou yo ale o meksik al antrene pou yo te jete Georges Bush tou?se pou te mandel lè nazi meriken ki te genyen gran papa Georges bush yo te kontakte general Butler pou yo te asasinen FDR eske li tap dakò ke sa te fet o Zeta Zuni .se bon dye ki fè General Butler pat yon enbesil tankou Cedras ak ti Guy.

Si Preval se te moun tout moun ki te finanse kou deta a saa te dwe jije devan yon tribinal.e tou sa ke yo rekonet ki koupab yo te dwe kondane a travo fose a perpetuite pou sa pa janm rekomanse an ayiti ankò.O zeta zuni lè yon kenbe moun ki ap espyone pou Russ yo se nan prison yo fout yo mwen pa beswen di w sak ta pase yon moun ki ap fè konplo ak etranje pou destabilize peyi ya.

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Message  jafrikayiti Dim 21 Nov 2010 - 23:56

Part 7 - "Did Aristide steal the 2000 elections"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W5LN64eldk


In this segment, RAM tries to recall how things unraveled in Haiti 10 years ago. The May 21, 2000 Legislative Elections and the November 26, 2000 Presidential Elections are put in context. Aristide Haitian and foreign foes claim these elections were rigged in favor of the exiled former President’s Fanmi Lavalas (FL) party.

Aristide was first elected December 16, 1990 and overthrown in a CIA-backed military coup, the evening of September 30, 1991. As one of several conditions for his return to Haiti in 1994, then U.S. President Bill Clinton and “Western” allies demanded that the 3 years he spent in exile be counted as part of his 5 year presidential mandate. As the Haitian Constitution forbids two consecutive terms, he could not run in the elections organized under his presidency in 1995. The next opportunity for him to run was in November 2000.


Coming soon...

Part 8 - "Should Aristide be allowed back to Haiti?"


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Part 6 -- "It was a coup, I participated!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxh8J6HCe4w

In this segment, RAM explains his rationale for taking part in the February 2004 coup d'état that toppled the government of president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. He claims to have attended coup-plotting meetings in Washington. I asked him whether, now in 2010, he has any regrets. Can you guess his answer?

The full interview, including the English segments (Part 5 forward) will continue to be posted on Youtube over the coming days.

N.B.: The first segment (parts 1-4) is available in Kreyol and covers a range of topics that may help shed light on current events unfolding in Haiti, as the nation braces for the final days of Y2010.


See:

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Message  Thunder Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 2:57

Le gros roseau a écrit:jaf

ou te dwe mande l poukisa li pat ba georges bush yon kou deta tou.ou poukisa yo pat ba Nixon yon kou deta tou apre ke jandam gad natyonal yo te youye etidyan yo nan kent University?poukisa li pat peye mèsenè pou yo ale o meksik al antrene pou yo te jete Georges Bush tou?se pou te mandel lè nazi meriken ki te genyen gran papa Georges bush yo te kontakte general Butler pou yo te asasinen FDR eske li tap dakò ke sa te fet o Zeta Zuni .se bon dye ki fè General Butler pat yon enbesil tankou Cedras ak ti Guy.

Si Preval se te moun tout moun ki te finanse kou deta a saa te dwe jije devan yon tribinal.e tou sa ke yo rekonet ki koupab yo te dwe kondane a travo fose a perpetuite pou sa pa janm rekomanse an ayiti ankò.O zeta zuni lè yon kenbe moun ki ap espyone pou Russ yo se nan prison yo fout yo mwen pa beswen di w sak ta pase yon moun ki ap fè konplo ak etranje pou destabilize peyi ya.

Se ri pou yon moun ta ri ,lè w ap kesyone "credentials" yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE.

byen ke se lan yon fanmi "boujwaz",li te si,si yon nonm konprann w ap kesyone senserite yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE;al repanse .
Sa di plis de moun sa a ke de RICHARD MORSE
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Message  Le gros roseau Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 7:31

kote genyen militè ki pa restavek ki renmen peyi yo yo pa kite boujwa ti lolit ak iyoran rasis vire loloj yo pou yo destabilize peyi yo.Al li sak te rive papa Georges bush ak lot nazis ki te vle assassinen Franklin Delano Roosevelt lè yo te vle fè yon General marine Corps ki te rele Butler fè youn kou deta o Zeta Zuni.

youn ameriken ka fisye yon presidan wi men se pa lod youn gouvenman etranje ba li ki fè li ap fè sa.Ni li pap ale o meksik ni o Kanada poul al konplote kont peyi li.se Charles Oscar lakay nou yo selman ke yon anbasadè etranje ka bay lod pou li arete presidan peyi l.fok kou deta fini an ayiti.fok tou moun pran responsabilite yo si yon presidan ap volò lajan leta ou byen ap vyole konstitutyon , ou byen touye moun fok la press ak Palman an genyen moun ki gen kran ase ki pou jije li.se konsa sa dwe fet.Piga pèsonn dim se restavek ki te palman kan menm danny toussaint te leve nan deyè Aristide poukisa yo pat mete haute cour de jusitce lan an branl pou yo jije Aristide?se pa Preval fini manda l la.paske genyen yon fos nan peyi ki anpeche kou deta fet .se wol saa ke FADH la te dwe jwe pou stabilite politik peyi ya.se militè tankou General Butler ke nou te dwe genyen nan FADH la,

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Message  Thunder Mar 23 Nov 2010 - 8:43

Eske w vle mete Morse pami moun pou Preval te jije yo? Se de misye ke n ap pale, pou yon moman bliye lòt yo.
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Message  Thunder Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:14

Eskize m mezanmi! Mwen te bliye bay Joel kredi pou tèks lan. Se li menm ki te ekri l, mwen te jis ap quote li:

Se ri pou yon moun ta ri ,lè w ap kesyone "credentials" yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE...

...byen ke se lan yon fanmi "boujwaz",li te si,si yon nonm konprann w ap kesyone senserite yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE;al repanse .
Sa di plis de moun sa a ke de RICHARD MORSE

http://www.forumhaiti.com/haiti-societe-f2/excellent-billet-de-richard-morse-t7543.htm?highlight=morse

Se domaj ke ni li, ni Jafrikayiti pran yon sezisman konsa. Lwen de la pou m ta nan defann RAM, men sa yo te panse an se pat sa paske mwen si ke Joel pa t ap ekri yon bagay konsa, ni Jafrikayti pa t ap jan m fè entèvyou sa a.
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Message  piporiko Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:23

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Le gros roseau a écrit:jaf

ou te dwe mande l poukisa li pat ba georges bush yon kou deta tou.ou poukisa yo pat ba Nixon yon kou deta tou apre ke jandam gad natyonal yo te youye etidyan yo nan kent University?poukisa li pat peye mèsenè pou yo ale o meksik al antrene pou yo te jete Georges Bush tou?se pou te mandel lè nazi meriken ki te genyen gran papa Georges bush yo te kontakte general Butler pou yo te asasinen FDR eske li tap dakò ke sa te fet o Zeta Zuni .se bon dye ki fè General Butler pat yon enbesil tankou Cedras ak ti Guy.

Si Preval se te moun tout moun ki te finanse kou deta a saa te dwe jije devan yon tribinal.e tou sa ke yo rekonet ki koupab yo te dwe kondane a travo fose a perpetuite pou sa pa janm rekomanse an ayiti ankò.O zeta zuni lè yon kenbe moun ki ap espyone pou Russ yo se nan prison yo fout yo mwen pa beswen di w sak ta pase yon moun ki ap fè konplo ak etranje pou destabilize peyi ya.

Se ri pou yon moun ta ri ,lè w ap kesyone "credentials" yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE.

byen ke se lan yon fanmi "boujwaz",li te si,si yon nonm konprann w ap kesyone senserite yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE;al repanse .
Sa di plis de moun sa a ke de RICHARD MORSE

aiiiieee THUNDER,MALGRE TOUT TAN SA MWEN FE DEYO,OU PA EVOLYE.C TRIS.SE DOMAJ YO PA VANN SEVO AK KONPOTMAN NAN MACHE.KOM KOUNYEA NEG YO FE TRANSPLAN SERVO,MWEN PA KONNEN SI SI YO TA RANPLASE PAW LA AK PA BOURIK,ORAN=OUTAN KI SA SA TA BAY...

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Message  Thunder Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:28

piporiko a écrit:
Thunder a écrit:
Le gros roseau a écrit:jaf

ou te dwe mande l poukisa li pat ba georges bush yon kou deta tou.ou poukisa yo pat ba Nixon yon kou deta tou apre ke jandam gad natyonal yo te youye etidyan yo nan kent University?poukisa li pat peye mèsenè pou yo ale o meksik al antrene pou yo te jete Georges Bush tou?se pou te mandel lè nazi meriken ki te genyen gran papa Georges bush yo te kontakte general Butler pou yo te asasinen FDR eske li tap dakò ke sa te fet o Zeta Zuni .se bon dye ki fè General Butler pat yon enbesil tankou Cedras ak ti Guy.

Si Preval se te moun tout moun ki te finanse kou deta a saa te dwe jije devan yon tribinal.e tou sa ke yo rekonet ki koupab yo te dwe kondane a travo fose a perpetuite pou sa pa janm rekomanse an ayiti ankò.O zeta zuni lè yon kenbe moun ki ap espyone pou Russ yo se nan prison yo fout yo mwen pa beswen di w sak ta pase yon moun ki ap fè konplo ak etranje pou destabilize peyi ya.

Se ri pou yon moun ta ri ,lè w ap kesyone "credentials" yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE.

byen ke se lan yon fanmi "boujwaz",li te si,si yon nonm konprann w ap kesyone senserite yon moun tankou RICHARD MORSE;al repanse .
Sa di plis de moun sa a ke de RICHARD MORSE

aiiiieee THUNDER,MALGRE TOUT TAN SA MWEN FE DEYO,OU PA EVOLYE.C TRIS.SE DOMAJ YO PA VANN SEVO AK KONPOTMAN NAN MACHE.KOM KOUNYEA NEG YO FE TRANSPLAN SERVO,MWEN PA KONNEN SI SI YO TA RANPLASE PAW LA AK PA BOURIK,ORAN=OUTAN KI SA SA TA BAY...

Pip drunken Krak,

Se pa ak mwen ke w ap pale paske se kavalye pòlka w JOEL ki te ekri l. Mwen pa bezwen vante m de anyen, men mwen kwè ke tout moun ki li fowòm nan ka wè byen klè ke ant mwen ak wou, ki moun ki tèt li chaje ak kk kalbas. What a Face

http://www.forumhaiti.com/haiti-societe-f2/excellent-billet-de-richard-morse-t7543.htm?highlight=morse
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Message  jafrikayiti Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:32

Thunder,

Mwen te vle poste tout chita pale a, anvan mwen komante. Mwen kwè se yon gwo erè nou fè lè nou senplifye divèjans politik ki ekziste nan sosyete nou an epi nou trete tout moun ak etikèt san nou pa rantre nan fondalnatal rezon ki fè nou pa dako sou pwen x, y osnon z.

Se sa mwen eseye fè parèt nan chita pale sa a. Mwen pa regrèt ditou mwen te koute sa RAM te gen pou li di. Nou pa dako sou anpil pwen. Men, nou toulede se pitit nasyon an. Kat je kontre manti kaba...Pwovèb lakay di:"FANMI", nan bon sans mo a, pa janm pèdi! Sa vle di, leson Goudougoudou ap eseye bannou an, li pa two ta pou nou aprann li.

Ojis, depi nan ane 40 yo, yon chelèn nan kilti Ayisyen an te eseye bannou leson sa a.... Wi! ak devastasyon, grangou ki tounen malè pandye sou tèt peyizan k ap bat dlo pou fè bè, se pa moman an pou n ap goumen pou separe tè. Ak sechrès ki fin anvayi n, se pa moman an pou n ap rale manchèt pou koupe tèt sou baz rankin ki la depi plizyè jenerasyon....Yon vwa te soulve pou rele OTAN! OTAN FOUT! "la réconciliation"....pawol sa yo te soti nan bouch sila a ki te detere sous "dlo" a. Wi! Malgre rayisman te lakoz lanmo Mannwèl, paske li pa te pè pale verite. Paske li pa te pè pran desizyon ki pi difisil nan moman krisyal la, malgre li pat reyisi kalme "sikoz" lapèrèz melanje ak jalouzman ki t ap toumante nanm Jèvilen Jèvilis la....Mannwèl trepase anvan li te gen chans wè solèy la k ap leve, men sa pa anpeche lawouze te pote dlo a bay tout peyizan... pawol yo te soti nan bouch Mannwèl men se nan lespri Jacques Roumain - yon Ayisen privilejye - yo te soti.

Jodi a, nou bezwen fè yon reyinyon menm jan ak sa Mannwèl e tante fè a. E si nou aji byen, si anpil Mannwèl, anpil Annayiz ranmase kouraj ak karaktè pou yo aji, pap menm bezwen gen sakrifis san pou nou rive jwenn sous dlo a!

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Message  Thunder Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:33

Pip drunken Krak,

Se ekspre ke mwen te fè menm mwen te quote Joel san ke mwen pat ba l kredi pou m te tande sa ke nou t ap di. Krab ke vouzèt! Wou konnen ki kote ke w pote kk w!
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Message  Thunder Mer 24 Nov 2010 - 0:44

Jafrikayti,

Thunder,

Mwen te vle poste tout chita pale a, anvan mwen komante. Mwen kwè se yon gwo erè nou fè lèe nou senplifye divèejans politik ki ekziste nan sosyete nou an epi nou trete tout moun ak etikèt san nou pa rantre nan fondalnatal rezon ki fè nou pa dako sou pwen x, y osnon z.

Vwala! ...Se sa ke mwen toujou ap mande an. Se pou rezon sa a ke mwen konn ap di Joel ke li pa konn sa ki rele konpleksite an vre si se konsa ke l ap pale. Li lè li tan pou nou sispann panse ke politik peyi an blan oubyen nwa. Li lè pou nou sispann konkli ke si entèl pran tèl pozisyon konsènan tèl pwoblèm, donk entèl se yon A oubyen B. Mwen genyen dwa kont Lavalas san ke mwen pa yon fanatik Apaid. Mwen genyen dwa pou yon lame nasyonal nan peyi an, san ke se pa pou m bay koudeta. De menm ke mwen konnen ke nou genyen dwa lavalasyen san ke nou pa vòlò oubyen sanginè.

Toutotan ke nou pa ka rezoud pwoblèm sa yo, rekonsilyasyon sosyete an pap posib, e peyi an p ap fè yon pa kita yon pa nago.
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