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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 10:02
Li bon pou ne fe yon ti rapel YON TI RALE SOU neg yo rele Aristig la ak tout mouvman lavalass pa li a .Min verite ke yo vle nou blye komsi nou bwe potion So Ann konn bayo lan reyinion o a lan Tabar .Nou pa konn bliye .Sitou le nou we yap rele lot moun voloo .
Where did Aristide get his money?
published: Sunday | April 4, 2004
By Ken Jones, Contributor
MANY JAMAICANS understandably are concerned about the cost of keeping Mr. Jean-Bertrand Aristide in the all-inclusive comfort of the Lydford place of refuge.
Our Government has been quick to sympathise with and take care of this neighbour who has fallen out with his family. But, as we know only too well, it takes cash to care and since charity begins at home we have to be mindful of the serious difficulties being experienced by our own people who have no means by which to escape.
When the thought of offering asylum to Aristide occurred to the Central African Republic, that Government let it be known that nothing of the sort could be afforded without financial help from the international community, especially as they badly needed money to look after their own pressing problems. The Jamaican Government appears not to be shackled by such consideration, but then again it may be that there's no need to worry. This guest of the Government is a generous man who knows how to take care of those who take care of him .
The former Roman Catholic priest was once vowed to a life of poverty and service to the dwellers of slums in Haiti. In that role he was convincing, effective and revered. However, since becoming a politician things have changed considerably and pledges about penury have given way to political power, prized possessions and lavish living.
As President of Haiti, in and out of exile, Aristide has had millions and millions of dollars passing through his hands and while his critics are convinced that a sizeable share of this has stuck to his fingers, it is well-known and documented that he has been particularly generous in paying out substantial sums to people committed to serving his personal and political interests.
Take the group that has surrounded him since the Haitian rebels began pressuring him to leave office people he could call by cell phone from Africa to America. Those friends were able at a moment's notice to rush to his side by chartered jet and whisk him off to Jamaica.
On that trip from the Central African Republic, Aristide's fellow travellers included Ira J. Kurzban, a Miami lawyer whose firm, according to the United States Justice Department records, received US$3 million from the Aristide Government for legal work.
He is quoted as saying that much of the expenditure was for efforts to recover assets hidden overseas by the Duvalier family that once ruled Haiti. Also on that hurried flight to Jamaica was Mr. Randall Robinson, founder of TransAfrica Forum, long-time supporter of Mr. Aristide and a frequent visitor to the presidential palace in Port-au-Prince. The firm headed by his wife, Hazel Ross-Robinson, was paid US$367,967, part of which was for "publicising developments pertaining to the foreign principal's attempts to achieve and maintain political and economic stability."
Another passenger on the Africa-Jamaica flight was Congresswoman Maxine Waters of California, who has never missed an opportunity to represent Mr. Aristide in a positive light. She once had herself arrested while demonstrating in front of the White House, demanding that the U.S. help Aristide's return to power. Like so many other friends of the Lavalas family, Mrs. Waters has been well-entertained at the palace.
She was one of the top guests attending the celebration of Haitis 200th anniversary of independence and described it as a phenomenal, unprecedented and unsurpassed accomplishment by black people She has also served on the Board of Advisors of the Foundation for Democracy, set up by Aristide himself. On the plane and on the payroll were some bodyguards drawn from the squad hired by Aristide to take care of his security in Haiti.
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The Miami Herald reported that officials in Haiti and in Washington estimated that the California-based security firm, Steele Foundation, was paid between US$6 million and US$9 million annually for providing Aristide with some 60 bodyguards at the peak of its operation. There was also a million- dollar weapons package to assist the guards. Reports filed with the Justice Department indicate that since former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide returned to power in 2000, nearly US$5-million was spent by Haiti on lobbyists and lawyers in America. Observers are of the opinion that these expenditures by the western hemisphere's poorest nation, were exorbitant; and they point out that in contrast, the neighbouring Dominican Republic with a much more flourishing economy, spent substantially less for similar services.
The Congressional Black Caucus, another firm friend of Aristide, has also seen some benefits falling into the lap of its former leader, Ron Dellums. A filed report shows that his lobbying firm received US$571,326 in 2001 and 2002, for work that included discussing "legislation involving Haitian refugees with a member of Congress and congressional staff members."
OFFICIAL ADVISOR
Like Waters and Robinson, Dellums was an official advisor to the tax-exempt Foundation for Democracy, which Aristide set up to raise and administer funds for projects in Haiti.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Aristide, during his first exile, was paying a Democratic Party activist US$55,000 a month to help get U.S. backing for his return to Haiti. His ability to afford this spending was aided by the fact that although living in the United States he was regarded by the Clinton administration as the legitimate President of Haiti; and as such he had access to about US$50 million of Haitian Government assets that had once been frozen. Mary O'Grady, the Journal's editor of the Americas column, revealed that in the first year of his exile Aristide withdrew US$900,000 a month from that source and, beginning October 1992, US$1.8 million monthly. The report further stated that he also collected millions of dollars in telephone and other royalties due to the Government of Haiti.
FREE ACCESS FUNDS
The flow of money did not stop after the Americans reinstated Aristide with the help of U.S. marines. Not only did he have free access to the funds of his Foundation for Democracy, he also had control of the Haitian state-owned telephone monopoly Teleco. And he was instrumental in granting a contract for the long-distance call system, which is heavily used by Haitians calling home from overseas.
The firm getting that contract was Fusion Telecommunications International, headed then by U.S. Democratic Party activist Marvin Rosen. The governing board also included former Democratic Representative Joseph Kennedy II, who, like Rosen, was a member of the board of advisors for the Foundation for Democracy.
In Haiti the word is that no major economic deal could go through without the involvement of ex-President Aristide or some member or members of his Lavalas political party. So, whenever Jean-Bertrand en-dorsed a project people readily believed that its success was assured. That was the case of the money cooperatives, which he called the people's capitalism. Despite warnings from economists and bankers, he encouraged their formation and thousands of Haitians taking their cue from the President, invested their life savings and other assets with a view to getting the promised ten per cent interest. However, the scheme collapsed, hundreds of millions of dollars were lost and thousands of middle-class Haitians went broke.
AN ABSURDITY
President Aristide promised to bail out the losers, but a New York Times article quoted a diplomat who watched the development: "It is an absurdity. This is a government that doesn't have any money... there are schools, hospitals and 20,000 other priorities that would be more important than this."
But if Haitian citizens were losing money, the President seemed to be prospering. The publication Haiti Observateur, dated August 20, 2002, reported on the purchase of multimillion- dollar villas in Haiti and abroad and also the bank accounts reputed to total US$800 million. These reports of wealth, when they reached the ears of Aristide's spokesmen, instead of being denied, were explained as the income from books Jean-Bertrand had written.
Whatever one might think of Jean-Bertrand Aristide, it cannot be said that his style of living betrays any paucity of funds. Nor can it be said that Haiti in his time or to this day, reflects any sign of the near US$3 billion dollars poured into the country since he was reinstated by the Americans. Among western hemisphere countries receiving aid from the United States, Haiti has got the biggest share; and there is very little in Haiti to show for it. The national budget for the eight million people averages a mere US$350 million per annum.
Last month Roger Noriega, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for the Western Hemisphere told a congressional hearing that between 1995 and 2003 the U.S. alone gave Haiti US$850 million in aid. Other countries and agencies demonstrating generosity include the Inter-American Development Bank, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, the United Nations and the European Community. Also, the national aid programmes of France, Canada, Holland, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, Venezuela and Taiwan.
DOLLAR DIPLOMACY
During his first exile Aristide had asked the United Nations General Assembly to admit Taiwan as a member. The Taiwanese were extremely gratified by this move and has since showered the Haitians with what has become known as dollar diplomacy. They have paid for police cars, garbage trucks, roads, low-cost housing, experimental rice farms and a sports complex. In addition they gave Aristide funds for his Foundation and for the orphanage he had set up while he was a practising priest.
So we come back to the original question: Does Aristide have the resources to continue his pattern of big spending? And will Jamaica get any help to defray the all-inclusive expenses we are incurring and which we can in truth ill-afford?
Ken Jones is General Secretary of the Farquharson Institute of Public Affairs.
Mwin menm si yo mande'm kote li jwen ak kob mwin ta di se liv li ke li ekri a ki te yon best-seller a travers le monde .
Where did Aristide get his money?
published: Sunday | April 4, 2004
By Ken Jones, Contributor
MANY JAMAICANS understandably are concerned about the cost of keeping Mr. Jean-Bertrand Aristide in the all-inclusive comfort of the Lydford place of refuge.
Our Government has been quick to sympathise with and take care of this neighbour who has fallen out with his family. But, as we know only too well, it takes cash to care and since charity begins at home we have to be mindful of the serious difficulties being experienced by our own people who have no means by which to escape.
When the thought of offering asylum to Aristide occurred to the Central African Republic, that Government let it be known that nothing of the sort could be afforded without financial help from the international community, especially as they badly needed money to look after their own pressing problems. The Jamaican Government appears not to be shackled by such consideration, but then again it may be that there's no need to worry. This guest of the Government is a generous man who knows how to take care of those who take care of him .
The former Roman Catholic priest was once vowed to a life of poverty and service to the dwellers of slums in Haiti. In that role he was convincing, effective and revered. However, since becoming a politician things have changed considerably and pledges about penury have given way to political power, prized possessions and lavish living.
As President of Haiti, in and out of exile, Aristide has had millions and millions of dollars passing through his hands and while his critics are convinced that a sizeable share of this has stuck to his fingers, it is well-known and documented that he has been particularly generous in paying out substantial sums to people committed to serving his personal and political interests.
Take the group that has surrounded him since the Haitian rebels began pressuring him to leave office people he could call by cell phone from Africa to America. Those friends were able at a moment's notice to rush to his side by chartered jet and whisk him off to Jamaica.
On that trip from the Central African Republic, Aristide's fellow travellers included Ira J. Kurzban, a Miami lawyer whose firm, according to the United States Justice Department records, received US$3 million from the Aristide Government for legal work.
He is quoted as saying that much of the expenditure was for efforts to recover assets hidden overseas by the Duvalier family that once ruled Haiti. Also on that hurried flight to Jamaica was Mr. Randall Robinson, founder of TransAfrica Forum, long-time supporter of Mr. Aristide and a frequent visitor to the presidential palace in Port-au-Prince. The firm headed by his wife, Hazel Ross-Robinson, was paid US$367,967, part of which was for "publicising developments pertaining to the foreign principal's attempts to achieve and maintain political and economic stability."
Another passenger on the Africa-Jamaica flight was Congresswoman Maxine Waters of California, who has never missed an opportunity to represent Mr. Aristide in a positive light. She once had herself arrested while demonstrating in front of the White House, demanding that the U.S. help Aristide's return to power. Like so many other friends of the Lavalas family, Mrs. Waters has been well-entertained at the palace.
She was one of the top guests attending the celebration of Haitis 200th anniversary of independence and described it as a phenomenal, unprecedented and unsurpassed accomplishment by black people She has also served on the Board of Advisors of the Foundation for Democracy, set up by Aristide himself. On the plane and on the payroll were some bodyguards drawn from the squad hired by Aristide to take care of his security in Haiti.
WEAPONS PACKAGE
The Miami Herald reported that officials in Haiti and in Washington estimated that the California-based security firm, Steele Foundation, was paid between US$6 million and US$9 million annually for providing Aristide with some 60 bodyguards at the peak of its operation. There was also a million- dollar weapons package to assist the guards. Reports filed with the Justice Department indicate that since former President Jean-Bertrand Aristide returned to power in 2000, nearly US$5-million was spent by Haiti on lobbyists and lawyers in America. Observers are of the opinion that these expenditures by the western hemisphere's poorest nation, were exorbitant; and they point out that in contrast, the neighbouring Dominican Republic with a much more flourishing economy, spent substantially less for similar services.
The Congressional Black Caucus, another firm friend of Aristide, has also seen some benefits falling into the lap of its former leader, Ron Dellums. A filed report shows that his lobbying firm received US$571,326 in 2001 and 2002, for work that included discussing "legislation involving Haitian refugees with a member of Congress and congressional staff members."
OFFICIAL ADVISOR
Like Waters and Robinson, Dellums was an official advisor to the tax-exempt Foundation for Democracy, which Aristide set up to raise and administer funds for projects in Haiti.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Aristide, during his first exile, was paying a Democratic Party activist US$55,000 a month to help get U.S. backing for his return to Haiti. His ability to afford this spending was aided by the fact that although living in the United States he was regarded by the Clinton administration as the legitimate President of Haiti; and as such he had access to about US$50 million of Haitian Government assets that had once been frozen. Mary O'Grady, the Journal's editor of the Americas column, revealed that in the first year of his exile Aristide withdrew US$900,000 a month from that source and, beginning October 1992, US$1.8 million monthly. The report further stated that he also collected millions of dollars in telephone and other royalties due to the Government of Haiti.
FREE ACCESS FUNDS
The flow of money did not stop after the Americans reinstated Aristide with the help of U.S. marines. Not only did he have free access to the funds of his Foundation for Democracy, he also had control of the Haitian state-owned telephone monopoly Teleco. And he was instrumental in granting a contract for the long-distance call system, which is heavily used by Haitians calling home from overseas.
The firm getting that contract was Fusion Telecommunications International, headed then by U.S. Democratic Party activist Marvin Rosen. The governing board also included former Democratic Representative Joseph Kennedy II, who, like Rosen, was a member of the board of advisors for the Foundation for Democracy.
In Haiti the word is that no major economic deal could go through without the involvement of ex-President Aristide or some member or members of his Lavalas political party. So, whenever Jean-Bertrand en-dorsed a project people readily believed that its success was assured. That was the case of the money cooperatives, which he called the people's capitalism. Despite warnings from economists and bankers, he encouraged their formation and thousands of Haitians taking their cue from the President, invested their life savings and other assets with a view to getting the promised ten per cent interest. However, the scheme collapsed, hundreds of millions of dollars were lost and thousands of middle-class Haitians went broke.
AN ABSURDITY
President Aristide promised to bail out the losers, but a New York Times article quoted a diplomat who watched the development: "It is an absurdity. This is a government that doesn't have any money... there are schools, hospitals and 20,000 other priorities that would be more important than this."
But if Haitian citizens were losing money, the President seemed to be prospering. The publication Haiti Observateur, dated August 20, 2002, reported on the purchase of multimillion- dollar villas in Haiti and abroad and also the bank accounts reputed to total US$800 million. These reports of wealth, when they reached the ears of Aristide's spokesmen, instead of being denied, were explained as the income from books Jean-Bertrand had written.
Whatever one might think of Jean-Bertrand Aristide, it cannot be said that his style of living betrays any paucity of funds. Nor can it be said that Haiti in his time or to this day, reflects any sign of the near US$3 billion dollars poured into the country since he was reinstated by the Americans. Among western hemisphere countries receiving aid from the United States, Haiti has got the biggest share; and there is very little in Haiti to show for it. The national budget for the eight million people averages a mere US$350 million per annum.
Last month Roger Noriega, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for the Western Hemisphere told a congressional hearing that between 1995 and 2003 the U.S. alone gave Haiti US$850 million in aid. Other countries and agencies demonstrating generosity include the Inter-American Development Bank, World Bank, International Monetary Fund, the United Nations and the European Community. Also, the national aid programmes of France, Canada, Holland, Germany, Japan, Switzerland, Venezuela and Taiwan.
DOLLAR DIPLOMACY
During his first exile Aristide had asked the United Nations General Assembly to admit Taiwan as a member. The Taiwanese were extremely gratified by this move and has since showered the Haitians with what has become known as dollar diplomacy. They have paid for police cars, garbage trucks, roads, low-cost housing, experimental rice farms and a sports complex. In addition they gave Aristide funds for his Foundation and for the orphanage he had set up while he was a practising priest.
So we come back to the original question: Does Aristide have the resources to continue his pattern of big spending? And will Jamaica get any help to defray the all-inclusive expenses we are incurring and which we can in truth ill-afford?
Ken Jones is General Secretary of the Farquharson Institute of Public Affairs.
Mwin menm si yo mande'm kote li jwen ak kob mwin ta di se liv li ke li ekri a ki te yon best-seller a travers le monde .
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Joel Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 11:44
WI ;
Nou vini ak atik THE GLEANER an 2004 silvouplè;yon jounal ki te ostil a ARISTIDE.
Poukisa nou pa vini ak atik JAMAICA OBSERVER yo ;yomenm ki di ke GNBIS yo se trèt,se kriminèl?
Nou vini ak atik THE GLEANER an 2004 silvouplè;yon jounal ki te ostil a ARISTIDE.
Poukisa nou pa vini ak atik JAMAICA OBSERVER yo ;yomenm ki di ke GNBIS yo se trèt,se kriminèl?
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 11:51
JOUNAL SA A SE YON JOUNAL TETT KLER KIPA LAN AFE TIPEPIS AK NOU SE FRER AK VOLE VAGABON KI VLE DOMI SOU MOUN AK KOZE LA RASS
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Joel Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 13:09
Wi jounal sa a pa lan koze la ras;mwen pral gade sa yo di de DIVALYE.
OBSERVER limenm pa vle wè nou;mwen kwè li genyen yon pi gwo sikilasyon ke GLEANER.
Pou OBSERVER ;nèg ki te fè koudeta yo se demeplè,se trèt;se vòlò.
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OBSERVER limenm pa vle wè nou;mwen kwè li genyen yon pi gwo sikilasyon ke GLEANER.
Pou OBSERVER ;nèg ki te fè koudeta yo se demeplè,se trèt;se vòlò.
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revelation Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 13:35
Nou ta renmen we multimillion dolla villa sa yo!!But if Haitian citizens were losing money, the President seemed to be prospering. The publication Haiti Observateur, dated August 20, 2002, reported on the purchase of multimillion- dollar villas in Haiti and abroad and also the bank accounts reputed to total US$800 million. These reports of wealth, when they reached the ears of Aristide's spokesmen, instead of being denied, were explained as the income from books Jean-Bertrand had written.
SVP mete foto yo sou site la! Pa bliye mete foto Aristide kap fe ski e jwet hiver nan les Alpes e jwe nan kazino nan Monte Carlo, Monako. Tou mete foto bel vwati de sport Aristide yo tou si nou kapab.
Pou zafe bank account yo, lajan sa yo fasil pou trase e jwen met yo. Anpil bank an Suisse e nan karayib la pa kenbe krass. Yo mete tout KK chat deyo le se kriminel kap volo lajan! Sispand bay blag e fe bouch nou fe bavé.
Vini avek prev!!!
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 13:57
L’ancien Président Lavalas, Jean-Bertrand Aristide, soupçonné d’avoir été de 2001 à 2004 la plaque tournante du trafic de stupéfiants d’Haïti vers les Etats-Unis et du blanchiment d’argent dans le pays, est pour la première fois directement visé par les autorités américaines à travers une série d’investigations judiciaires en cours, a rapporté dimanche le Miami Herald.
L’ex-homme fort d’Haïti, exilé depuis plus de deux ans en Afrique du Sud, n’a pas été à ce jour inculpé, mais des témoignages accablants obtenus par un grand jury fédéral de l’Etat de la Floride affirment qu’il aurait, en compagnie de plusieurs de ses principaux collaborateurs, amassé des millions de dollars en permettant à de puissants trafiquants de drogue d’utiliser le pays comme territoire de transit. 22 personnes dont les plus importants trafiquants de cocaïne haïtiens, d’anciens haut-gradés de la Police Nationale d’Haïti (PNH) et des responsables politiques de premier plan intimement liés à Aristide, ont été formellement identifiés comme des individus ayant évolué dans le circuit du narcotrafic, souligne le quotidien floridien dans une très volumineuse enquête dont la deuxième partie doit être publiée cette semaine.
Le Miami Herald affirme avoir recueilli d’une vingtaine d’officiels de la justice, d’avocats et d’autres responsables engagés dans les investigations des informations sur "le rôle central qu’aurait joué Aristide dans le narcotrafic et le blanchiment de l’argent sale en Haïti entre 2001 et 2004", la période couvrant les trois années de son second mandat présidentiel avant l’effondrement de son régime le 29 février 2004. Des renseignements très précieux ont été fournis par des haïtiens purgeant actuellement des peines de prison aux Etats-Unis pour leur culpabilité dans des affaires de drogue et qui ont accepté d’offrir "leur collaboration aux autorités américaines". Parmi les exemples concrets de participation directe de l’ancien Président à l’organisation et la coordination du marché de la drogue avancés par les témoins citons :
L’ex-homme fort d’Haïti, exilé depuis plus de deux ans en Afrique du Sud, n’a pas été à ce jour inculpé, mais des témoignages accablants obtenus par un grand jury fédéral de l’Etat de la Floride affirment qu’il aurait, en compagnie de plusieurs de ses principaux collaborateurs, amassé des millions de dollars en permettant à de puissants trafiquants de drogue d’utiliser le pays comme territoire de transit. 22 personnes dont les plus importants trafiquants de cocaïne haïtiens, d’anciens haut-gradés de la Police Nationale d’Haïti (PNH) et des responsables politiques de premier plan intimement liés à Aristide, ont été formellement identifiés comme des individus ayant évolué dans le circuit du narcotrafic, souligne le quotidien floridien dans une très volumineuse enquête dont la deuxième partie doit être publiée cette semaine.
Le Miami Herald affirme avoir recueilli d’une vingtaine d’officiels de la justice, d’avocats et d’autres responsables engagés dans les investigations des informations sur "le rôle central qu’aurait joué Aristide dans le narcotrafic et le blanchiment de l’argent sale en Haïti entre 2001 et 2004", la période couvrant les trois années de son second mandat présidentiel avant l’effondrement de son régime le 29 février 2004. Des renseignements très précieux ont été fournis par des haïtiens purgeant actuellement des peines de prison aux Etats-Unis pour leur culpabilité dans des affaires de drogue et qui ont accepté d’offrir "leur collaboration aux autorités américaines". Parmi les exemples concrets de participation directe de l’ancien Président à l’organisation et la coordination du marché de la drogue avancés par les témoins citons :
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 14:00
Une réunion organisée dans sa résidence début 2001 par Jean-Bertrand Aristide en vue de définir un plan qui devait permettre aux cartels colombiens d’utiliser, moyennant le versement de pots-de-vin, le territoire haïtien comme point de chute des cargaisons de cocaïne en route vers les Etats-Unis.
. Une somme de 500.000 dollars qu’Aristide recevait tous les mois chez lui à Tabarre (banlieue nord de Port-au-Prince) du trafiquant de drogue haïtien Jacques Beaudouin Kétant. La rondelette somme était toujours remise dans une malette dont le code secret était le 7-7-7, le chiffre préféré d’Aristide.
. Un montant de 200.000 dollars américains reçu en 2002 de dealers de drogues qui aurait permis au Président de faire l’acquisition d’un hélicoptère.
. Des centaines de milliers de dollars américains versés par des trafiquants de drogue, en coordination avec le gouvernement, en vue de l’organisation des festivités carnavalesques en février 2002.
Cependant, selon certaines sources citées par le Miami Herald, une éventuelle extradition d’Aristide vers les Etats-Unis n’est pas à écarter. Ce qui, de l’avis de plusieurs observateurs, libérerait le Président René Préval de la menace que représente un éventuel retour de son ancien mentor
Une dizaine d’anciens hauts responsables du régime d’Aristide, parmi eux l’ancien président du Sénat haïtien, Fourel Céléstin, et l’ex-directeur général de la Police Nationale d’Haïti, Jean-Nesly Lucien, sont en attente de jugement ou ont été condamnés aux Etats-Unis après avoir été arrêtés en Haïti par des agents de l’Agence fédérale américaine anti-drogue (DEA).
. Une somme de 500.000 dollars qu’Aristide recevait tous les mois chez lui à Tabarre (banlieue nord de Port-au-Prince) du trafiquant de drogue haïtien Jacques Beaudouin Kétant. La rondelette somme était toujours remise dans une malette dont le code secret était le 7-7-7, le chiffre préféré d’Aristide.
. Un montant de 200.000 dollars américains reçu en 2002 de dealers de drogues qui aurait permis au Président de faire l’acquisition d’un hélicoptère.
. Des centaines de milliers de dollars américains versés par des trafiquants de drogue, en coordination avec le gouvernement, en vue de l’organisation des festivités carnavalesques en février 2002.
Cependant, selon certaines sources citées par le Miami Herald, une éventuelle extradition d’Aristide vers les Etats-Unis n’est pas à écarter. Ce qui, de l’avis de plusieurs observateurs, libérerait le Président René Préval de la menace que représente un éventuel retour de son ancien mentor
Une dizaine d’anciens hauts responsables du régime d’Aristide, parmi eux l’ancien président du Sénat haïtien, Fourel Céléstin, et l’ex-directeur général de la Police Nationale d’Haïti, Jean-Nesly Lucien, sont en attente de jugement ou ont été condamnés aux Etats-Unis après avoir été arrêtés en Haïti par des agents de l’Agence fédérale américaine anti-drogue (DEA).
Dernière édition par zouke le Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 14:11, édité 2 fois
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 14:02
Ya misie te evoluye li pat achete bel auto min pou elikopte li te chaje. li ginyen yun blan yun rouj yun ble.
Parallèlement aux accusations portant sur son implication présumée dans le trafic de stupéfiants, Aristide fait l’objet depuis fin 2005 d’une plainte portée par l’Etat haïtien devant un tribunal fédéral de Miami pour des millions de dollars volés au trésor public entre 2001 et 2004
Parallèlement aux accusations portant sur son implication présumée dans le trafic de stupéfiants, Aristide fait l’objet depuis fin 2005 d’une plainte portée par l’Etat haïtien devant un tribunal fédéral de Miami pour des millions de dollars volés au trésor public entre 2001 et 2004
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dilibon Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 14:15
Jean Claude te vole li merite jije e krisifye. Aristide ak marassa li a te jwenn ja, yo te ekri anpil livrezon.... Le ou mete edikasyon, eksperyans ak matirite Aristide ak Jean Claude. Jean Claude ta dwe lage imedyatman pendan ke Aristide ta dwe chatre san okenn lot fomil..
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 16:38
Un Aristig châtré est un grand service à la nation et à la population abusée et droguée de nos pauvres orphelinats qui vivaient sous sa coupe.
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Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 16:46
Sa'm tepi rinmin se le route di nor a te tounyn terin atersaj poue neg drog yo epi limouzin palais ap fe transportasyon.Menm ancien colonel komandan la poliss Toussaint te plinyen de sa.Neg sayo pa respekte pepap.
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Joel Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 17:16
revelation a écrit:Nou ta renmen we multimillion dolla villa sa yo!!But if Haitian citizens were losing money, the President seemed to be prospering. The publication Haiti Observateur, dated August 20, 2002, reported on the purchase of multimillion- dollar villas in Haiti and abroad and also the bank accounts reputed to total US$800 million. These reports of wealth, when they reached the ears of Aristide's spokesmen, instead of being denied, were explained as the income from books Jean-Bertrand had written.
SVP mete foto yo sou site la! Pa bliye mete foto Aristide kap fe ski e jwet hiver nan les Alpes e jwe nan kazino nan Monte Carlo, Monako. Tou mete foto bel vwati de sport Aristide yo tou si nou kapab.
Pou zafe bank account yo, lajan sa yo fasil pou trase e jwen met yo. Anpil bank an Suisse e nan karayib la pa kenbe krass. Yo mete tout KK chat deyo le se kriminel kap volo lajan! Sispand bay blag e fe bouch nou fe bavé.
Vini avek prev!!!
REV;
Ala traka pou ti nèg.Se rezon sa yo ARISTIDE ap fè dekabès sou yo.Mesye yo pa menm konn bay manti.
Tankou jounen jodi an ;yon prezidan ;sitou yon moun tankou ARISTIDE ta ka lan sere lajan ak fo non ou byen nenpòt lòt jan.
ALA YON BANN ENBESIL!
800 MILYON DOLA?
ARISTIDE pa ta ka sere 8 milyon dola fasilman ale wè pou 800 milyon.
WOOY.........YYYYYY!
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Invité Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 17:31
Min kote li jwen lajan pou li peye neg ki tap fe sekirite pou li a ?Eske se zanmi ki ba li kob sa a eske se kob pep la oswa liv li a ke li te vann konsa a ?Sekirite koute milion e neg sayo pa kon travay kredi non.Kijan li fe pou li peye pou elikopte menmsi seta lwe li lwe yo si nou sonje ke lot jou la a li sete yon ti per afe pabon? Mezanmi neg pa bezwin filozof pou we ke 2+2 pa fe 4 la a .
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
revelation Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 20:52
Sanble ke se tripotaj ke w renmen fe!Deza di: Min kote li jwen lajan pou li peye neg ki tap fe sekirite pou li a ?Eske se zanmi ki ba li kob sa a eske se kob pep la oswa liv li a ke li te vann konsa a ?Sekirite koute milion e neg sayo pa kon travay kredi non.Kijan li fe pou li peye pou elikopte menmsi seta lwe li lwe yo si nou sonje ke lot jou la a li sete yon ti per afe pabon? Mezanmi neg pa bezwin filozof pou we ke 2+2 pa fe 4 la a .
W pa edike tet w pou jwen infomasyon.
Checke avek Pentagone, US State Department w ta we ke budget pou sekirite Atistide la fe pati de yon program ke Leta Ameriken te gennyen pou yon seri de chef Deta dan le mond.
Presidan Afganistan an, presidan Iraq la, Aristide e anpil lot chef Deta kite nan program saa.
Infomasyon sa yo disponib e w kap jwen yo si w vle.
Pou zafe lajan kite disponib a gouvenman Aristide la le lite wahington DC. Sete yon gouvenman fonksyonel, donk tout moun tap travay e fok tout moun te touche le saa.
Pou zafe reynion kay Aristide avek drug dealer, avion kap ateri sou wont di nord etc.. Si Aristide tap patisipe direkteman nan aktivite sa yo, ki jan fe sekirite'l yo, Steele fondasyon pou kisa la jistis pa subpoena yo e fe yo vin temwen kont Aristide nan aktivite illegal sa yo??
Vini ak prev, vini ak dokiman ofisyel, vini ak foto chateau ke li achte an Europe, vini ak foto kote ke lap fe ski e pran plezi ak lajan pep la!
Pou kisa nou pat jamb mande JC Duvalier pou'l te al nan yon Universite e instwi tet e aprand yon vre metye.
Si'l te fe saa, li pat la jodi ap vinn kwye deye yon ti $6 Million dolla ke Bank Suisse vle bay pep Ayisyen pou rekonstriksyon?
Se vreman degoutan le Tineg intellijan ap pran poz neg sot pou yo sa regle zafe yo!
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Le gros roseau Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 21:07
Men a la yon peyi dwol ;ou pa tande ayisyen ap pale de sa chef deta ki pase yo te fè ki bon se yon sel bagay w tande se konbyen moun saa te touye konbyen kob saa te volè. epi se yon perpetyelman rekomansman.depi mwen ti moun mwen tande yap rele politisyen volè,kriminel men nanpren ekzanp ki janm trase sou youn.Ki jan pou sa fini si tou tan se menm bagay la pale anpil epi epi anyen. lè w mande pou yo jije ou toujou jwen moun ki di w an nou bliye sa ,Men ki lè vol ak krim ap fini si moun ki fè yo pe janm jije ni pini pou sa yo te fè?
mwen pa nan sere krass pou oken delenkan ke li se Jan Clown ou byen Arsitig depi yo debake nan aeropò a se mete menot nan ponyet yo.mwen fout bouke tande radot saa.tou tan ayisyen pa trase ekzanp sou volè e byen bagay saa pap janm fini .Nou tout te dwe wont se sel bagay nap diskite nos vos leurs sont moins vos leurs que vos vos leurs.Si mwen kondane neg ki ap voye jean clown monte men fok yon moun rekonet Aristide pa non plu san peche.Sa ke mwen vle menm jan Jan Clown rantre lakay li se pou yo kite Aristide rantre lakay e se pou yo tou 2 jije devan yon tribinal ayisyen ak tou dwa pou yo pran avoka ki pou defann yo.yo met voye chache m wi map desann anba al ann jiry san yo pa peyem nanpren youn ki ka achte m.si tribinal la jwen yo koupab travo fose a perpetuite.mete yo nan la ri tout jounen ap netoye la ri jis yo mouri.trase yon ekzanp sou tou 2.merde et merde ankò mwen fout bouke tande radot saa.Moun ap fout mouri ak kolera pase yo pa ka jwen dlo pwop pou yo bwè nan peyi ya epi delenkan ap volò lajan leta pou yo voye sere a letranje ki lè peyi saa ap fè yon pa an avan si tou tan se menm radot la.Presidan ap volò, Premye Minis ap volè, depite ap volè, Minis ap volè, anbasadè ap volè direktè jeneral ap volè, se yon biznis volè selman ki ap regle ki jan pou peyi saaa devlope nan kondityon saa.
mwen kwè ke koriptyon te dwe yon krim kont limanite ki pa genyen prescriptyon nan oken peyi ;bagay saa fè twop moun ap soufri pou gremesi. se sak fè ou tande ke ayiti se peyi ki resevwa plis ed pase tout lot peyi nan amerik epi ou pa fouti di kote lajan an pase.mwen kwè se devwa tout moun ki onet e ki vle wè grangou kloroks ,sida, kolera iyorans fini an ayiti pou konbat koriptyon ak krim kelke swa moun ki fè li ya.Ke se jean Clown, Jean aristig, preval, yo tout dwe jije.zafè li volè men se moun pam lan dwe fini.
mwen pa nan sere krass pou oken delenkan ke li se Jan Clown ou byen Arsitig depi yo debake nan aeropò a se mete menot nan ponyet yo.mwen fout bouke tande radot saa.tou tan ayisyen pa trase ekzanp sou volè e byen bagay saa pap janm fini .Nou tout te dwe wont se sel bagay nap diskite nos vos leurs sont moins vos leurs que vos vos leurs.Si mwen kondane neg ki ap voye jean clown monte men fok yon moun rekonet Aristide pa non plu san peche.Sa ke mwen vle menm jan Jan Clown rantre lakay li se pou yo kite Aristide rantre lakay e se pou yo tou 2 jije devan yon tribinal ayisyen ak tou dwa pou yo pran avoka ki pou defann yo.yo met voye chache m wi map desann anba al ann jiry san yo pa peyem nanpren youn ki ka achte m.si tribinal la jwen yo koupab travo fose a perpetuite.mete yo nan la ri tout jounen ap netoye la ri jis yo mouri.trase yon ekzanp sou tou 2.merde et merde ankò mwen fout bouke tande radot saa.Moun ap fout mouri ak kolera pase yo pa ka jwen dlo pwop pou yo bwè nan peyi ya epi delenkan ap volò lajan leta pou yo voye sere a letranje ki lè peyi saa ap fè yon pa an avan si tou tan se menm radot la.Presidan ap volò, Premye Minis ap volè, depite ap volè, Minis ap volè, anbasadè ap volè direktè jeneral ap volè, se yon biznis volè selman ki ap regle ki jan pou peyi saaa devlope nan kondityon saa.
mwen kwè ke koriptyon te dwe yon krim kont limanite ki pa genyen prescriptyon nan oken peyi ;bagay saa fè twop moun ap soufri pou gremesi. se sak fè ou tande ke ayiti se peyi ki resevwa plis ed pase tout lot peyi nan amerik epi ou pa fouti di kote lajan an pase.mwen kwè se devwa tout moun ki onet e ki vle wè grangou kloroks ,sida, kolera iyorans fini an ayiti pou konbat koriptyon ak krim kelke swa moun ki fè li ya.Ke se jean Clown, Jean aristig, preval, yo tout dwe jije.zafè li volè men se moun pam lan dwe fini.
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Thunder Mar 25 Jan 2011 - 23:38
Joel a écrit:revelation a écrit:Nou ta renmen we multimillion dolla villa sa yo!!But if Haitian citizens were losing money, the President seemed to be prospering. The publication Haiti Observateur, dated August 20, 2002, reported on the purchase of multimillion- dollar villas in Haiti and abroad and also the bank accounts reputed to total US$800 million. These reports of wealth, when they reached the ears of Aristide's spokesmen, instead of being denied, were explained as the income from books Jean-Bertrand had written.
SVP mete foto yo sou site la! Pa bliye mete foto Aristide kap fe ski e jwet hiver nan les Alpes e jwe nan kazino nan Monte Carlo, Monako. Tou mete foto bel vwati de sport Aristide yo tou si nou kapab.
Pou zafe bank account yo, lajan sa yo fasil pou trase e jwen met yo. Anpil bank an Suisse e nan karayib la pa kenbe krass. Yo mete tout KK chat deyo le se kriminel kap volo lajan! Sispand bay blag e fe bouch nou fe bavé.
Vini avek prev!!!
REV;
Ala traka pou ti nèg.Se rezon sa yo ARISTIDE ap fè dekabès sou yo.Mesye yo pa menm konn bay manti.
Tankou jounen jodi an ;yon prezidan ;sitou yon moun tankou ARISTIDE ta ka lan sere lajan ak fo non ou byen nenpòt lòt jan.
ALA YON BANN ENBESIL!
800 MILYON DOLA?
ARISTIDE pa ta ka sere 8 milyon dola fasilman ale wè pou 800 milyon.
WOOY.........YYYYYY!
Sa a tèlman fanatik, mwen pa menm ka jwenn yon mo pou ki ka dekri eta nonm nan. L ap ekri san reflechi.
Joel! ...si w se yon moun lisid, m ap mande w kichòy ki pa yon sekrè pou pèsòn. Aristide te vann youn nan chateau l yo bay leta Ayisyen pou $7.000.000 USD, malgre ke vrè valè li se te 4 milyon. Eske w ka di ki kote ke misye sere lajan "legal" sa a?
Avoka tankou Kurzban, ke Aristide peye milyon dola, pa janm nye ke Aristide chaje ak milyon dola. Yo senpleman ap chache "jistifye" kote ke tout milyon sa yo sòti. Men nou menm fanatik genyen odas ase pou nou ap chache demanti ke Aristide se yon nonm ki rich. Yon nonm ke yo jwenn anviwon $300.000 USD ap pouri nan kòf lakay li. Konbyen nan nou isi an ki kapab bliye sòm lajan sa a nan kòf nou? Konbyen pou nou ta posede deja, pou sa ta rive?
Kowmatchouboulout! Ala fanatik yo genyen odas mesye.
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Invité Mer 26 Jan 2011 - 10:52
Yon nonm ke yo jwenn anviwon $300.000 USD ap pouri nan kòf lakay li. Konbyen nan nou isi an ki kapab bliye sòm lajan sa a nan kòf nou? Konbyen pou nou ta posede deja, pou sa ta rive?(Thunder)
Repon keksyon sa a onetman vle di ke se pou yon nonm admet ke Aristig sete yon gwo vole tou ke li touye pep la anba manti.Kote ou kon tande yon bagay konsa .Yon peyi ki pi pov passe job le afe li pat bon ap peye pou yon lider di pep deplase lan elikopter !Saki pase la a ?Pep la santi li paka pwan kontak avek li ?Lipaka mache lan mitan li ?
Repon keksyon sa a onetman vle di ke se pou yon nonm admet ke Aristig sete yon gwo vole tou ke li touye pep la anba manti.Kote ou kon tande yon bagay konsa .Yon peyi ki pi pov passe job le afe li pat bon ap peye pou yon lider di pep deplase lan elikopter !Saki pase la a ?Pep la santi li paka pwan kontak avek li ?Lipaka mache lan mitan li ?
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revelation Mer 26 Jan 2011 - 11:55
Deza, se dezod ak konfizyon ke w vinn kweye sou forum nan! W konnen tre byen ke lajan ak dokiman inpotan pa pourri nan kofrefo fasil konsa!Yon nonm ke yo jwenn anviwon $300.000 USD ap pouri nan kòf lakay li. Konbyen nan nou isi an ki kapab bliye sòm lajan sa a nan kòf nou? Konbyen pou nou ta posede deja, pou sa ta rive?(Thunder)
Gen konpagni kofrefo ki garanti kondisyon papyé dokiment ak lajan pou yon period 50 a 100 tan.
Lajan pourri sa yo se yon band de fo foto trike ke nou ap pran pou verite!
Deplase nan helikopte se bagay ke nou fe tout tan sitou nan yon peyi kote ke wout yo pa bon.Deza di: Yon peyi ki pi pov passe job le afe li pat bon ap peye pou yon lider di pep deplase lan elikopter !Saki pase la a ?Pep la santi li paka pwan kontak avek li ?Lipaka mache lan mitan li ?
Avion ak helikopte militer yo disponib pou NGOs yo e lot gouvenman offisyel yo. Zafe helikopter tout koule ke Aristide te gennyen yo, li pa pran yo e al Afrik di Sid avek yo ni vand yo kankou se byen papa'l te kite pou li.
Si heliko sa yo exziste se nan men Leta Ayisyen ke yo ye la.
Pou'm di w anko, la verite chita sou prev!
Si se pa sa tout sa ke w ap di konnyen la se istwa pou fe ti moun domi.
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Invité Mer 26 Jan 2011 - 12:15
Deplase lan elikopte se bagay nou fe toutan kote ki pagin bon routt ?Depi kile ? Ala ou gin movez fwa ! Poukisa li pa bati routt kote tout moun taka jwen bon routt pou sikile .W konen bon routt fasilite komess tou ?Non .'Se li sel ki merite vwaje sans difikilte .Kijan li te kon fe le li te kon ap pote malett li sou tett li kom ti mon per pou antre potoprinss ?Nou komik wi neg lavalass sayo .Epi napp pale de pep .
Kalite grangou kigan lan yon peyi epi kalkile pri pou fe yon elikopte dekole pou ale yon ti kote tou pre lan peyi a . Aristid teka achete kek bon trakte pou peyi a pou pep la fe manje pou li manje . Epi mwin pat kon we moun anvan Aristid yo itilize elikopte non kom taxi .Toutale wa dim se konsa w te kon sikile an Ayiti .Se w ki Gabriel la ?lol.Mwin paka pale avek ou .Pagan mwayen.
Antrott ki metye Aristid te apwan pou'l te sa itil peyi a ?Li te apwan mon per kom gwo opotiniss min li rejete le li gade gan pi bon afe lan politik ak fanm kap domi deyo do li .Li ale lakay li an afrik ( li te di li se afrikin ke li ye ) min li finn anraje kounye a pou li tounyn an ayiti vinn anmede aysyen. Li ale la ba a se zulu li apwan .Sassa ka itil peyi dayiti ? Sakristin ,banm van pou'm al la gonav tande .
Kalite grangou kigan lan yon peyi epi kalkile pri pou fe yon elikopte dekole pou ale yon ti kote tou pre lan peyi a . Aristid teka achete kek bon trakte pou peyi a pou pep la fe manje pou li manje . Epi mwin pat kon we moun anvan Aristid yo itilize elikopte non kom taxi .Toutale wa dim se konsa w te kon sikile an Ayiti .Se w ki Gabriel la ?lol.Mwin paka pale avek ou .Pagan mwayen.
Antrott ki metye Aristid te apwan pou'l te sa itil peyi a ?Li te apwan mon per kom gwo opotiniss min li rejete le li gade gan pi bon afe lan politik ak fanm kap domi deyo do li .Li ale lakay li an afrik ( li te di li se afrikin ke li ye ) min li finn anraje kounye a pou li tounyn an ayiti vinn anmede aysyen. Li ale la ba a se zulu li apwan .Sassa ka itil peyi dayiti ? Sakristin ,banm van pou'm al la gonav tande .
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Re: ARISTIG ET SON ARGENT
Invité Mer 26 Jan 2011 - 13:01
Et dosier minis la justice te fe sou aristide li di ki detournin 300milyon ce invente li invente yo alor ce pou aristide rele misie lan jujman li la toujou bien vivan et minis toujou.
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