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Election Dirty Tricks Again in Washington and El Salvador
The Huffington Post
March 15, 2009
Election Dirty Tricks Again in Washington and El Salvador
Last week, more than 30 Members of Congress joined Rep. Raul Grijalva in asking President Obama to affirm U.S. neutrality in El Salvador's Presidential election on Sunday March 15, to stop the recycling in El Salvador of US threats when Salvadorans voted in 2004. But there has been no high-level response from the Obama Administration, Rep. Grijalva told Democracy Now! yesterday.
But right-wing Republicans in Congress have not been quiet. Upside Down News reports:
On Tuesday El Salvador's largest circulating daily, the Diario de Hoy, published news of a letter signed by over 40 Republicans in Congress, denouncing the FMLN and warning of their links to Venezuela and Cuba. The letter expresses "grave concern that a victory by the FMLN could make links between El Salvador and the regimes of Venezuela, Iran and Cuba, and other states that promote terrorism, and also with other non-democratic regimes and terrorist organizations."
Meanwhile, CISPES reports:
Yesterday, two Republicans gave speeches on the floor of the House of Representatives threatening that Salvadorans living in the U.S. will lose their immigration status and be outlawed from sending money home to their families if voters in El Salvador exercise their right to elect the opposition FMLN party's candidate on Sunday.
Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) said, "Should the pro-terrorist FMLN party replace the current government in El Salvador, the United States, in the interests of national security, would be required to reevaluate our policy toward El Salvador, including cash remittance and immigration policies to compensate for the fact there will no longer be a reliable counterpart in the Salvadoran government."
Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN) stated, "Those monies that are coming from here to there I am confident will be cut, and I hope the people of El Salvador are aware of that because it will have a tremendous impact on individuals and their economy." Indeed, these threats carry considerable weight for Salvadoran voters, as 25% of the Salvadoran population lives in the U.S., and 20% of the nation's economy consists of remittances from those family members."
Why did they do this yesterday? Krista Lee, a US solidarity activist in El Salvador as an election observer, writes:
They made this statement yesterday so that it would come out on the front page of the Salvadoran papers today, just a few hours after the campaign officially closed, so the FMLN's ability to respond is severely limited.
Of course, the official US position is that the US is indeed neutral. A State Department spokesman told Inter Press Service today:
"The U.S. government reiterates its official position that it does not support either candidate in the upcoming presidential election in El Salvador on March 15th. Through our embassy in El Salvador, we have stated this position publicly and repeatedly since November of 2007.
"With regard to the letters that have been sent [by members of Congress], the separation of powers and freedom in the U.S.allow for a debate in which members of the U.S. legislature have expressed their opinions. This does not reflect the official position of the United States."
But, being low-profile, this statement will not have the same effect as the Republicans' statements, trumpeted in El Salvador's private media, which like the media in Venezuela, are tremendously biased - in this case, in favor of the right-wing government.
That's why Rep. Grijalva asked for a high-level statement from the Obama Administration. Why has it not yet come?
Here are some actions concerned Americans can take:
1. Call the State Department to ask for a US Embassy press conference in San Salvador to publicly state US neutrality in the Salvadoran presidential elections: (202) 647-4087/ (202) 647-6575 (message.)
2. Throw a few bucks in the hat so CISPES can publish the Grijalva letter as an ad in the Salvadoran media.
March 15, 2009
Election Dirty Tricks Again in Washington and El Salvador
Last week, more than 30 Members of Congress joined Rep. Raul Grijalva in asking President Obama to affirm U.S. neutrality in El Salvador's Presidential election on Sunday March 15, to stop the recycling in El Salvador of US threats when Salvadorans voted in 2004. But there has been no high-level response from the Obama Administration, Rep. Grijalva told Democracy Now! yesterday.
But right-wing Republicans in Congress have not been quiet. Upside Down News reports:
On Tuesday El Salvador's largest circulating daily, the Diario de Hoy, published news of a letter signed by over 40 Republicans in Congress, denouncing the FMLN and warning of their links to Venezuela and Cuba. The letter expresses "grave concern that a victory by the FMLN could make links between El Salvador and the regimes of Venezuela, Iran and Cuba, and other states that promote terrorism, and also with other non-democratic regimes and terrorist organizations."
Meanwhile, CISPES reports:
Yesterday, two Republicans gave speeches on the floor of the House of Representatives threatening that Salvadorans living in the U.S. will lose their immigration status and be outlawed from sending money home to their families if voters in El Salvador exercise their right to elect the opposition FMLN party's candidate on Sunday.
Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) said, "Should the pro-terrorist FMLN party replace the current government in El Salvador, the United States, in the interests of national security, would be required to reevaluate our policy toward El Salvador, including cash remittance and immigration policies to compensate for the fact there will no longer be a reliable counterpart in the Salvadoran government."
Rep. Dan Burton (R-IN) stated, "Those monies that are coming from here to there I am confident will be cut, and I hope the people of El Salvador are aware of that because it will have a tremendous impact on individuals and their economy." Indeed, these threats carry considerable weight for Salvadoran voters, as 25% of the Salvadoran population lives in the U.S., and 20% of the nation's economy consists of remittances from those family members."
Why did they do this yesterday? Krista Lee, a US solidarity activist in El Salvador as an election observer, writes:
They made this statement yesterday so that it would come out on the front page of the Salvadoran papers today, just a few hours after the campaign officially closed, so the FMLN's ability to respond is severely limited.
Of course, the official US position is that the US is indeed neutral. A State Department spokesman told Inter Press Service today:
"The U.S. government reiterates its official position that it does not support either candidate in the upcoming presidential election in El Salvador on March 15th. Through our embassy in El Salvador, we have stated this position publicly and repeatedly since November of 2007.
"With regard to the letters that have been sent [by members of Congress], the separation of powers and freedom in the U.S.allow for a debate in which members of the U.S. legislature have expressed their opinions. This does not reflect the official position of the United States."
But, being low-profile, this statement will not have the same effect as the Republicans' statements, trumpeted in El Salvador's private media, which like the media in Venezuela, are tremendously biased - in this case, in favor of the right-wing government.
That's why Rep. Grijalva asked for a high-level statement from the Obama Administration. Why has it not yet come?
Here are some actions concerned Americans can take:
1. Call the State Department to ask for a US Embassy press conference in San Salvador to publicly state US neutrality in the Salvadoran presidential elections: (202) 647-4087/ (202) 647-6575 (message.)
2. Throw a few bucks in the hat so CISPES can publish the Grijalva letter as an ad in the Salvadoran media.
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Sasaye,
Mwen te tande TRENT FRANKS ak DAN BURTON sou televizyon (MSNBC) fè pèp SALVADOR an menas ke si yo eli kandida FMLN y ap voye tout SALVADORYEN ki san papye yo tounen.
Se yon menas ekstrawòdinè wi 2 kongrèsmann repibliken yo fè sou popilasyon SALVADOR AN.
1/4 popilasyon SALVADOR an ap viv OZETAZINI,pi fò ladan yo san papye.
Men tou yo te fè menm menas sa a anvan pèp NIKARAGWA te di yo ale yo la voum,e yo te eli DANIEL ORTEGA.
Si w wè ke pèp SALVADIR an eli kandida FMLN lan se yon bagay pou pèp ayisyen an imite.
Sa montre ke pèp NIKARAGWA ak kounye an pèp SALVADOR an se pèp ki gen grenn ,grenn ann asye.
Mwen paka tann pou m tande rezilta eleksyon sa a .
Si SALVADIRYEN an eli kandida FMLN lan e ETAZINI pa reyaji se prèv ke GNBis yo chire nèt ,pak an pak.
Se ap prèv ke ameriken yo pa bezwen yo,e pa p bezwen yo ditou,zilch,zewo
Pou moun ki poko konprann ki sa ki an je lan SALVADOR lan li atik sa a ki menm di kijan bagay yo te ye ke FMLN te lènmi jire WASHINGTON ,sa pa gen lontan ,se lan lanne 1992 la a:
http://lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-38732700@7-37,0.html
Mwen te tande TRENT FRANKS ak DAN BURTON sou televizyon (MSNBC) fè pèp SALVADOR an menas ke si yo eli kandida FMLN y ap voye tout SALVADORYEN ki san papye yo tounen.
Se yon menas ekstrawòdinè wi 2 kongrèsmann repibliken yo fè sou popilasyon SALVADOR AN.
1/4 popilasyon SALVADOR an ap viv OZETAZINI,pi fò ladan yo san papye.
Men tou yo te fè menm menas sa a anvan pèp NIKARAGWA te di yo ale yo la voum,e yo te eli DANIEL ORTEGA.
Si w wè ke pèp SALVADIR an eli kandida FMLN lan se yon bagay pou pèp ayisyen an imite.
Sa montre ke pèp NIKARAGWA ak kounye an pèp SALVADOR an se pèp ki gen grenn ,grenn ann asye.
Mwen paka tann pou m tande rezilta eleksyon sa a .
Si SALVADIRYEN an eli kandida FMLN lan e ETAZINI pa reyaji se prèv ke GNBis yo chire nèt ,pak an pak.
Se ap prèv ke ameriken yo pa bezwen yo,e pa p bezwen yo ditou,zilch,zewo
Pou moun ki poko konprann ki sa ki an je lan SALVADOR lan li atik sa a ki menm di kijan bagay yo te ye ke FMLN te lènmi jire WASHINGTON ,sa pa gen lontan ,se lan lanne 1992 la a:
http://lemonde.fr/web/depeches/0,14-0,39-38732700@7-37,0.html
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Tout bagay ki pase nan lot peyi, Joel toujou vle mele Ayiti ladann. Salvador pa Ayiti. America pa genyen zanmi, se enterè ke yo genyen. Donk, wou te mèt leve ko w fwape atè, Tutud tonbe nan poubèl listwa deja.
Nan moman n ap pale la a, etènèl mekontan yo, endezirab yo se gwoup gang Fanmi Lavalas la.
Ayiti pa ka genyen oken gouvenman ekstremis pou dirije l nan moman sa a. Alo sispann jwe jon devan bann lan.
Nan moman n ap pale la a, etènèl mekontan yo, endezirab yo se gwoup gang Fanmi Lavalas la.
Ayiti pa ka genyen oken gouvenman ekstremis pou dirije l nan moman sa a. Alo sispann jwe jon devan bann lan.
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Bagay yo chanje konnyen la. Popilarite selman pa sifi.
Fok yon lide vizyone tou.
Fok yon lide vizyone tou.
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Thunder a écrit:Tout bagay ki pase nan lot peyi, Joel toujou vle mele Ayiti ladann. Salvador pa Ayiti. America pa genyen zanmi, se enterè ke yo genyen. Donk, wou te mèt leve ko w fwape atè, Tutud tonbe nan poubèl listwa deja.
Nan moman n ap pale la a, etènèl mekontan yo, endezirab yo se gwoup gang Fanmi Lavalas la.
Ayiti pa ka genyen oken gouvenman ekstremis pou dirije l nan moman sa a. Alo sispann jwe jon devan bann lan.
Mwen pa konnen poukisa map pèdi tan reponn ou.
Ti Pap,
Peyi sa yo sanble ak Ayiti.Zafè Nikaragwa ak Salvadò pa tèlman pi bon pase pa Ayiti.
Diferans ki genyen ant Ayiti ak peyi sa yo ,sè ke yo te genyen yon geriya ekstrèm goch,bagay ke Ayiti pa t janm genyen.
Etazini te depanse plis ke 4 milya dola pou bare wout a geriya sa yo lan Nikaragwa ak Salvadò.
Moun ke Etazini te ap konbat yo se yomenm ki sanble ap pran pouvwa a lan peyi sa yo.
Bagay yo chanje.
Thunder,
Se zanmi w yo ki ekstremis lan jounen joodi an,EKSTREMIS DE DWAT.
ETAZINI pa bezwen moun sa yo ankò,yo pa lan enterè ETAZINI.
Epitou moun ki ap di ke popilarite pa ase ,fòk gen vizyon;pèp Amerik Santral ak Amerik di Sid yo ap montre ke se pa zòt ki pou detèmine moun ki genyen vizyon pou yo ,se yomenm.
M ap repete l ankò,si FUNES ,kandida FMLN lan genyen eleksyon an ,e ETAZINI pa reyaji ,se prèv ke tout GNBis kaka,yo pa nan plan ETAZINI ankò
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Sak fè nou pa genyen geriya an Ayiti ? ...Ekzateman! se paske nou se Ayiti, nou pa genyen menm listwa ak menm kilti, ak lòt peyi sa yo.
Sa a pa konprann wou menm, se ke USA konbat ni dwat, ni gòch nan peyi dAyiti. 19 Septanm 1994 se te viktwa lagòch kavya a, 2004 se viktwa dwat ak gòch kont fòs fè nwa. N ap mande pou yo pa foure bouch nan zafè Ayiti lè sa pa nan avantaj nou, men kou nou sispèk nou ka souse yon zo, nou pa ka tann pou yo pase men sou tèt nou.
Tankou jan Rico te di, nan moman sa a, GNBism lan se nan tèt lavalaso-Titidis ke li rete ap paweze, ak move souvni tankou kouri pran taxi elikoptè pou Sendomeng pou 5 mil dola US (lol).
Tout ekstremis kondane pou disparèt to ou ta.
Lemond antye te mèt panche a gòch jiskaske yo vire tèt anba, tankou zanmi Joel yo; Etazini, pap depeche 20.000 US Marines pou pote malpouwont tounen sou twonn yo ankò. Pinga nou konte sou Ameriken pou kwakseswa, yo pap ale anbarase tèt yo ak dwòg dilè, vòlè ak asasen. Pou ki rezon wou konprann ke tout gwo pèsonalite etranje pa vle fwote ak chanpwèl yo ?
Gen lè "radyoaktivite" a pwopaje plis ke ti nèg te konprann.
Sa a pa konprann wou menm, se ke USA konbat ni dwat, ni gòch nan peyi dAyiti. 19 Septanm 1994 se te viktwa lagòch kavya a, 2004 se viktwa dwat ak gòch kont fòs fè nwa. N ap mande pou yo pa foure bouch nan zafè Ayiti lè sa pa nan avantaj nou, men kou nou sispèk nou ka souse yon zo, nou pa ka tann pou yo pase men sou tèt nou.
Tankou jan Rico te di, nan moman sa a, GNBism lan se nan tèt lavalaso-Titidis ke li rete ap paweze, ak move souvni tankou kouri pran taxi elikoptè pou Sendomeng pou 5 mil dola US (lol).
Tout ekstremis kondane pou disparèt to ou ta.
Lemond antye te mèt panche a gòch jiskaske yo vire tèt anba, tankou zanmi Joel yo; Etazini, pap depeche 20.000 US Marines pou pote malpouwont tounen sou twonn yo ankò. Pinga nou konte sou Ameriken pou kwakseswa, yo pap ale anbarase tèt yo ak dwòg dilè, vòlè ak asasen. Pou ki rezon wou konprann ke tout gwo pèsonalite etranje pa vle fwote ak chanpwèl yo ?
Gen lè "radyoaktivite" a pwopaje plis ke ti nèg te konprann.
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Ou te mèt sote ponpe ;oumenm ak ekstrèm dwatis parèy ou yo nou bade.
Yo pa bezwen nou ankò.
Aristide gen dwa tounen ann Ayiti e noumenm yon sèl bagay nou konnen se vyolans.Se pou nou al eseye fwa sa a e yo tou pwofite touye nou tout.
Se noumenm sèlman lan Amerik lan ki ap kontinye bay koudeta.
Nou pa ladann ankò.
Oh!,by the way ,kandida FMLN lan genyen eleksyon an,donk ti Pap eske nou wè noumenm bann ekstrèm Dwatis parèy ou yo ,se lan poubèl pase an nou ye.
Nou pa itil anyen ankò!
Yo pa bezwen nou ankò.
Aristide gen dwa tounen ann Ayiti e noumenm yon sèl bagay nou konnen se vyolans.Se pou nou al eseye fwa sa a e yo tou pwofite touye nou tout.
Se noumenm sèlman lan Amerik lan ki ap kontinye bay koudeta.
Nou pa ladann ankò.
Oh!,by the way ,kandida FMLN lan genyen eleksyon an,donk ti Pap eske nou wè noumenm bann ekstrèm Dwatis parèy ou yo ,se lan poubèl pase an nou ye.
Nou pa itil anyen ankò!
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Thunder a écrit:Sak fè nou pa genyen geriya an Ayiti ? ...Ekzateman! se paske nou se Ayiti, nou pa genyen menm listwa ak menm kilti, ak lòt peyi sa yo.
Sa a pa konprann wou menm, se ke USA konbat ni dwat, ni gòch nan peyi dAyiti. 19 Septanm 1994 se te viktwa lagòch kavya a, 2004 se viktwa dwat ak gòch kont fòs fè nwa. N ap mande pou yo pa foure bouch nan zafè Ayiti lè sa pa nan avantaj nou, men kou nou sispèk nou ka souse yon zo, nou pa ka tann pou yo pase men sou tèt nou.
Tankou jan Rico te di, nan moman sa a, GNBism lan se nan tèt lavalaso-Titidis ke li rete ap paweze, ak move souvni tankou kouri pran taxi elikoptè pou Sendomeng pou 5 mil dola US (lol).
Tout ekstremis kondane pou disparèt to ou ta.
Lemond antye te mèt panche a gòch jiskaske yo vire tèt anba, tankou zanmi Joel yo; Etazini, pap depeche 20.000 US Marines pou pote malpouwont tounen sou twonn yo ankò. Pinga nou konte sou Ameriken pou kwakseswa, yo pap ale anbarase tèt yo ak dwòg dilè, vòlè ak asasen. Pou ki rezon wou konprann ke tout gwo pèsonalite etranje pa vle fwote ak chanpwèl yo ?
Gen lè "radyoaktivite" a pwopaje plis ke ti nèg te konprann.
SE WOU KI PAKA TOUNEN.OU TELMAN FE MOVE ZAK.MWEN TE WE W WI LE W TAP GRADYE OU TE PRETE SEMAN POU TE DI TI MO A"ansanm ansanm,nou se lavalas".MWEN TE WE W WI KALIKO 2 POU SINK.
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Joel a écrit:Ou te mèt sote ponpe ;oumenm ak ekstrèm dwatis parèy ou yo nou bade.
Yo pa bezwen nou ankò.
Aristide gen dwa tounen ann Ayiti e noumenm yon sèl bagay nou konnen se vyolans.Se pou nou al eseye fwa sa a e yo tou pwofite touye nou tout.
Se noumenm sèlman lan Amerik lan ki ap kontinye bay koudeta.
Nou pa ladann ankò.
Oh!,by the way ,kandida FMLN lan genyen eleksyon an,donk ti Pap eske nou wè noumenm bann ekstrèm Dwatis parèy ou yo ,se lan poubèl pase an nou ye.
Nou pa itil anyen ankò!
Genbe kò w Joel, Mouvman GNB a se youn nan ra mouvman popilè peyi Dayiti ki te rasanble tout kalite moun ak tout kalite koulè po ak nivo sosyal. Wou te mèt ba l etikèt ke w vle, reyalite a rete la.
Se pa yon gwoup moun espesyal ki te fè 2004, GNB pa genyen HQ, li pa yon pati politik. Moun ki pa menm genyen menm enterè, menm tandans politik te mete ansanm pou dechouke fòs fè nwa. Grand majorite mouvman sa a se gòchis, sosyalis, kominis... sispann ak tentennad "ekstrèm dwat" wou yo.
Chèf wou Aristide pote lamayòt nan zòn lan, kòm rejim ke ni Dwat ni Gòch mete ansanm pou konbat.
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tout moun te konnen ki moun ki te konpose mouvman GNB ya.Se te boujwasi tradityonel la ,ti boujwa ki genyen foli ,jandam ak makout ak mèsenè drug dilè.ki represante petet 5% popilatyon an .
si se te yon mouvman solid e popilè ki jan fè preval wi bat yo mal konsa?
si se te yon mouvman solid e popilè ki jan fè preval wi bat yo mal konsa?
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Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:tout moun te konnen ki moun ki te konpose mouvman GNB ya.Se te boujwasi tradityonel la ,ti boujwa ki genyen foli ,jandam ak makout ak mèsenè drug dilè.ki represante petet 5% popilatyon an .
si se te yon mouvman solid e popilè ki jan fè preval wi bat yo mal konsa?
Sans Malice, nan moman sa a menm, wou pèdi tout kredibilite w. Moun tankou Wyclef Jean, Theodore Beaubrun Jr... fè pati te gwoup wou site la a ? ...reponn si w kapab, pa mete ni "men" ni "si" nan repons wou an.
Eske sa vle di ke 95% pèp la avèk Titidis yo ? ...m pa menm bezwen reponn wou sa a.
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Mwen te atann mwen ke w t ap rete bèbè. E si nenpòt moun t a di ke se 30.000 chimè lavalas ki nan mouvman swa abolotcho, swa nan bay mato, kòb woy-woy, oubyen chèk zonbi ki epapiye nan tout peyi a ki konstitye Gwoup Gang wou an ? ...kisa w t ap di ?
...wou ta p gen tan tape tout yon disètasyon pou w denonse "prejidis", "enjistis", wou t a di ke se "èn" ki nan kè moun sa a, ak yon ban lòt diskou populus rans.
Avan m ale fòk mwen di w ankò ke gen lè "popilarite" Lavalas la twòp pou zo bwa tèta m, paske li pa fè sans pou mwen pou yon peyi genyen 8 milyon moun, 95% pami yo apiye yon gouvènman epi pou 50 moun ame ak fizi (ki pa menm genyen B2 Bomber, F22 Raptor, M1 Tank...) fè tout chat mimi myaw ki t ap pran pòz gwo grenn yo sou popilasyon sivil lan , pran rak tou swit. Tout sa ap fèt pandan ke anviwon 7 milyon 600 mil "lavalasyen" kanpe sou 2 bò lari.
Mesye Lavalaso-Tutudus yo, manyè bay moun tèt yo ak jan de radòt sa yo.
...wou ta p gen tan tape tout yon disètasyon pou w denonse "prejidis", "enjistis", wou t a di ke se "èn" ki nan kè moun sa a, ak yon ban lòt diskou populus rans.
Avan m ale fòk mwen di w ankò ke gen lè "popilarite" Lavalas la twòp pou zo bwa tèta m, paske li pa fè sans pou mwen pou yon peyi genyen 8 milyon moun, 95% pami yo apiye yon gouvènman epi pou 50 moun ame ak fizi (ki pa menm genyen B2 Bomber, F22 Raptor, M1 Tank...) fè tout chat mimi myaw ki t ap pran pòz gwo grenn yo sou popilasyon sivil lan , pran rak tou swit. Tout sa ap fèt pandan ke anviwon 7 milyon 600 mil "lavalasyen" kanpe sou 2 bò lari.
Mesye Lavalaso-Tutudus yo, manyè bay moun tèt yo ak jan de radòt sa yo.
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Tande non se pa paske yon moun soti Croix des Bouquets ou byen nan zantray pep la ki fè li paka yon ti boujwa non.2 moun sa yo ou site la mwen pa konnen yo men nou wè anpil aysiyen tankou w yo ki pitit so yet tankou m e yo rayi orijinn yo:tankou kanmarad la te ekri sou forum la:"L'origine de la haine est la haine de ses propres origines."e se pa tout moun ki fè charite ki genyen konpasyon.genyen moun se teren yo yap prepare ou byen se yon travay ke yap fè.
An ayiti lè marengwen ap vole ou pa konn sa ki mal sa ki femel tande thunder.Pa janm ba moun labsolutyon san konfesyon.genyen enpil jida pami nou.
An ayiti lè marengwen ap vole ou pa konn sa ki mal sa ki femel tande thunder.Pa janm ba moun labsolutyon san konfesyon.genyen enpil jida pami nou.
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Pa pale an parabòl, nou pa nan Labib la a, sa w vle di a di l aklè, pou w pa di ke mwen mete pawòl nan bouch wou.
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kreyol pale kreyol konprann.mwen pale klè ak w.Mwen di w ke mwen te aplodi sa Clinton te fè an 1994 e mwen pa wont di sa.men si sa nou vle fè l di ya ou byen nou swete ke li di ya se ta sa li di e byen san okenn jenn map dil vousan.
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Mwen konprann deja, men anvan w di ke mwen mete mo nan bouch wou se pou w site non moun ke w ap pale yo.
Ti sa a, wou pa ka fè ?
Ti sa a, wou pa ka fè ?
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Mwen daj di w ke 2 moun ou site yo mwen pa konnen yo byen.se premye fwa ou tande genyen ipokrit ayisyen ;jida ayisyen; moun ki ap bo w epi pi devan se yo ki trayi w.ou pat aprann ke jida te al remet lajan ke li te pran pou l te trayi Jesus apre sa li pran yo kod li pann tet li.tan li te regret sa li te fè ya. mwen ta swete ke w pa fè sa (lol)
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Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:kreyol pale kreyol konprann.mwen pale klè ak w.Mwen di w ke mwen te aplodi sa Clinton te fè an 1994 e mwen pa wont di sa.men si sa nou vle fè l di ya ou byen nou swete ke li di ya se ta sa li di e byen san okenn jenn map dil vousan.
Malis,
Se pa ke moun bezwen bay sa Clinton di an twòp enpòtans,paske se pèp ayisyen an a la fen dè fen ki pral detèmine bagay sa yo ;mwen kwè sa seryezman.
Ou te tande ti nèg te konn ap voye monte kont Clinton paske li te fè Aristide retounen.
Se pouse "blak kokis" lan e ak moun tankou RANDALL ROBINSON te pouse CLINTON aji konsa.
e nou sonje ensidan bato "Harlan County",lè mesye FRAPH yo te anpeche bato an akoste.
Se ase konsesyon ARISTIDE pa t ko fè.
E sou menm woulib lan,mwen tande yon moun di sou youn lan radyo pro-lavalas yo lan Nouyòk (sou web lan) ;moun lan di ke li tande ke CLINTON pale de sekirite ARISTIDE ak Preval ,lè misye tounen.
Pa gen moun ko konnen sa mesye yo te di antre yo.
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Kounye a, w vire koze a yon fason jeneral ? ...Wou panse w bon nan sa ? GADE TI SA KE W PA KA Fè ?
Sèl sa m regrèt, Tutud te dwe goumen tèt kale, konsa mwen t ap jwenn yon bòn rezon pou m te fè l jwenn ak zo grann li.
Tout sa ki estomake, nou konn fòmil lan deja, BWè PWAZON!
Sèl sa m regrèt, Tutud te dwe goumen tèt kale, konsa mwen t ap jwenn yon bòn rezon pou m te fè l jwenn ak zo grann li.
Tout sa ki estomake, nou konn fòmil lan deja, BWè PWAZON!
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Kounyea, m pa kwè ke Joel t a bezwen konnen kisa ke Clinton ak Preval te di antre yo, pwiske Joel te deja pa bay sa enpòtans...
Titidis sa yo !
Titidis sa yo !
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Konsa ou ta ka jwen ak zo grann w tou.mwen pa deja di nou ke Aristide te two bon moun pou nou. se dok la ki te genyen reson ak nou lè li te konn mete nou nan poto pa grap.Nwa jwenn yon lot Duvalier ankor wi ki pou fè nou rantre ke nou anba vant nou.
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Rodlam Sans Malice a écrit:Konsa ou ta ka jwen ak zo grann w tou.mwen pa deja di nou ke Aristide te two bon moun pou nou. se dok la ki te genyen reson ak nou lè li te konn mete nou nan poto pa grap.Nwa jwenn yon lot Duvalier ankor wi ki pou fè nou rantre ke nou anba vant nou.
Se pa Tutud Ti poulèt Kayèt ? ...li ta p gade li wè gason ak fizi antoure l, li t ap fè dyare dan son pantalon (lol).
Sans Malice, reveye w! ...Yon lòt Duvalier pa posib ankò, Tutud se prèv lan.
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Thunder a écrit:Se pa Tutud Ti poulèt Kayèt ? ...li ta p gade li wè gason ak fizi antoure l, li t ap fè dyare dan son pantalon (lol).
Sans Malice, reveye w! ...Yon lòt Duvalier pa posib ankò, Tutud se prèv lan.
Gason,
Francois Duvalier tap travay alo ke Jean Bertrand Aristide se yon volè ki asosie ak anpil drug dealè epi kap tann jijman li. Pa melanje tè ak farinn.
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Apre Jal Nor ayisyen te di pap janm genyen yon Nord Alexis an ayiti ankor poutan nou te pran anba Duvalier.rete tann se domaj ti Pè ya te chase moun ki te ka ba li repo ak nou.An tou ka Duvalier fè lekol nan politik ayisyen an; si yon moun kite vagbon fè dekabess sou wou se bagay ki gade w.Mwen se yon sel bagay ke mwen konnen yon pep pap banm yon pouvwa an ayiti pou m kite mèsenè fè dekabess sou mwen. Yo pa tap pran chans konsa .menm si yon moun ta peye yo ;yo tap mande moun lan si yo kwè yo fou.Duvalier te di li ak jacques gracia tap fè bouda nou tounnen paswa mwen se vè ki te pou manje bouda nou depi se renverse nou ta vle renverse m anvan manda pep la ban mwen yan fini.se ta anbake ou byen an ba tè.mwen tap fout nou yon leson pou nou respekte dwa pep la poul eli moun li vle jis nou mouri nou pa tap janm fè kou deta ankor an ayiti..se sa Rwa christophe te fè nan Nor se li mwen tap fè an ayiti
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M t ap kanpe dèyè w silefo, men fòk se ak kondisyon.
Fòk wou menm, anpatan, wou pat akapare w de pouvwa a an gwo ponyèt atravè yon koudeta elektoral.
Fòk wou pa fòme kò madigra mal maske pou bay pèp la presyon.
Fòk wou pa fè bri kouri pou fo koudeta pou w ka aneyanti tout opozisyon politik.
Fòk wou travay nan enterè peyi a, pa travay pou pòch wou ak pòch kòkòday wou.
Fòk lajan leta itilize pou fè travay leta.
Fòk wou pa voye fizye polisye paske yo arete chimè w yo avèk paske yo pa vle bay akolad ak moun ke w rele "dan dèyè w" nan mikro laprès.
Fòk wou pa tolere asasen tankou Ronald Kadav ap mete kawotchou nan kou komisè polis, paske komisè a mande Kadav pou papye legal zam li jwenn sou li.
Fòk chimè w yo k ap koupe rache, fè kadejak, touye moun, boule katye nan zòn defavorize yo, wou pa dwe rele moun konsa chak mwa pou w resevwa yo nan katye jeneral wou, epi pou yo pase pran chèk zonbi nan biwo leta apre sa.
Fòk wou pa nan dwòg, moun tankou Ketant pa ka monkonpè w.
Fòk lè jounalis poze w kesyon sou 150 milyon dola "Ti Pwojè Prezidans" lan, yo pa mouri asasine kèk mwa apre, epi wou menm ankò ap bloke tout ankèt.
Fòk wou respekte dwa moun pou yo manifeste.
Fòk wou respekte dwa moun pou yo rele "aba w".
Elatriye...
Epwi pinga wou pa respekte yon atik nan konstitisyon an, epi wou espere pou tout lòt moun respekte atik ki di ke prezidan an eli pou 5 lane. Konstitisyon an di sa, men li di tou kijan pou prezidan sa a mennen bak peyi a, e li di kijan pou prezidan sa a monte sou pouvwa a. Konstitisyon an pat prevwa koudeta elektoral nonplis.
Pandan ke w ap konbat koudeta, fòk wou konbat kòz yo tou, nou paka fè 200 lane ap fè menm bagay la youn apre lòt, epi apre sa pou nou espere yon lòt rezilta.
Fòk wou menm, anpatan, wou pat akapare w de pouvwa a an gwo ponyèt atravè yon koudeta elektoral.
Fòk wou pa fòme kò madigra mal maske pou bay pèp la presyon.
Fòk wou pa fè bri kouri pou fo koudeta pou w ka aneyanti tout opozisyon politik.
Fòk wou travay nan enterè peyi a, pa travay pou pòch wou ak pòch kòkòday wou.
Fòk lajan leta itilize pou fè travay leta.
Fòk wou pa voye fizye polisye paske yo arete chimè w yo avèk paske yo pa vle bay akolad ak moun ke w rele "dan dèyè w" nan mikro laprès.
Fòk wou pa tolere asasen tankou Ronald Kadav ap mete kawotchou nan kou komisè polis, paske komisè a mande Kadav pou papye legal zam li jwenn sou li.
Fòk chimè w yo k ap koupe rache, fè kadejak, touye moun, boule katye nan zòn defavorize yo, wou pa dwe rele moun konsa chak mwa pou w resevwa yo nan katye jeneral wou, epi pou yo pase pran chèk zonbi nan biwo leta apre sa.
Fòk wou pa nan dwòg, moun tankou Ketant pa ka monkonpè w.
Fòk lè jounalis poze w kesyon sou 150 milyon dola "Ti Pwojè Prezidans" lan, yo pa mouri asasine kèk mwa apre, epi wou menm ankò ap bloke tout ankèt.
Fòk wou respekte dwa moun pou yo manifeste.
Fòk wou respekte dwa moun pou yo rele "aba w".
Elatriye...
Epwi pinga wou pa respekte yon atik nan konstitisyon an, epi wou espere pou tout lòt moun respekte atik ki di ke prezidan an eli pou 5 lane. Konstitisyon an di sa, men li di tou kijan pou prezidan sa a mennen bak peyi a, e li di kijan pou prezidan sa a monte sou pouvwa a. Konstitisyon an pat prevwa koudeta elektoral nonplis.
Pandan ke w ap konbat koudeta, fòk wou konbat kòz yo tou, nou paka fè 200 lane ap fè menm bagay la youn apre lòt, epi apre sa pou nou espere yon lòt rezilta.
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