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Avan memm ke Marc mete suje sa sou ForumHaiti avek yon idee deja pre-konsi e li deja parye ke ekip mesye sa yo pral passe kwaze nou tout li la le li di ke:

Pourquoi Deza fait-il courrir les lavalassiens du Forumhaiti
Ont-ils peur de confronter Deza ?
Ont-ils peur d'affronter Deza ?
Donnent-ils raison à Deza ?
Deza a-t-il plus d'arguments convaincants que les lavalassiens ?
Pourquoi les lavalassiens laissent-ils le forumHaiti à Deza ?
Imaginez Fanmi Lavalas et les lavalassiens se retirent de la scène politique parce qu'ils sont incapables de faire face aux GNBISTES ? Pourriez imaginer un tel scenario?

Nou kouri antre nan deba sa pa pou nou defand yon ansyen prezidan, ni defand Pati Politik li.
Men le nou tande yon seri de deklaration sou ForumHaiti.com, yon seri de defamation e denigreman san fondman kap andomaje repitation yon ansyen Prezidan ak tout pati politik li a. Nou di ke fok sa fini!!

ForumHaiti.com konnen ou te dwe konnen ke deklaration sa yo fô e pa chita sou okenn prev tanjib, ni pa gen jijman kifet ki apye e sipote deklaration sa yo.

ForumHaiti pran kouraj li ancharj e pran desizyon pou pibliye manti e defamation sa yo.
Donk sa vinn ba nou yon inpressyon ke forum nan koupab par assosyation. Le yon moun fe yon deklaration fok nou mande prev e referans ki kote ke moun nan jwen infomasyon sa yo.
Men le moun nan ap pale etan experyan personel de sa ke li fe malere e we sa lot moun fe malere, moun sa gen yon obligasyon pou remet tet li a la jistis olye ke yo vinn fe shelbe e pale de move zak malonet ke yo akonpli sou viktim sa yo.

Nou di ke fok sa fini.
Se pa konsa ke yon deba fet !!
Se pa konsa pou yo fe’n kouri ! O kontre fok nou chache konnen kriminel sa yo pou nou trennen yo devan la jistis!

Nou apresye dillijans Marc le li di ke :

Marc a dit : ForumHaiti n'est pas un site privé mais un collectif.
C'est donc dire que l'hébergeur nous surveille de près.
En effet, si nous ne respectons pas certaines règles du forumactif , l'hébergeur pourrait fermer notre forum .
De plus, des individus pourraient m'accuser en tant qu'administrateur de permettre à certaines personnes d'inciter à la violence. Tu comprends que nous ne voulons pas à faire face à la justice. Nous n'avons pas l'argent non plus pour nous défendre...

Se pa deye lajan ke nap kouri ni nou pa deye kwaze yon forum ki la pou sevi koz pep peyi nou. Nou mande ke pou gen yon siveyans pli adekwat sou forum nan!! San atak personel, san joure, san avilisman ni antre nan manman e reg sa yo fet pou respekte san pati pri!

T-Neg a dit : Venez savoir la valeur du forum en dollars selon les statistiques..
Valeur totale:$1,377.51
Visite par jour: 629
*Publicité: $ 1.89/jour.

Men konpany heberger forum nan gen « deep pocket » ki kap peye pou sa T-Neg!!

An plis de sa, nou kap egjije heberger a devwale idantite ISP difamate sa yo e vinn explike nou deklarasyon personel ke yo fe sou sit la.

Gen anpil ayisyen kap li ForumHaiti ki gen fanmi yo ki disparet nan move condition san ke yo pa kite tras!!
Yap mande pou anket fet pou yo konnen si se pa nan prison “titanic” privee ke yo ap deperi ou byen si yo eklate sevel yo nan Titanyen!

Fanmi viktim yo o dezawa e o zabwa le yo ap li deklarasyon sa yo kap soti nan bouch yon seri de moun kite la swa kom temwen ou byen te nan pozition swa kom zanmi intim pou yo te tande deklaration sa yo nan bouch perpetrate sa yo.

Dilibon di : Bon neg yo ka di sa yo vle. Men mwen kwe si yo tap sinse ak tet yo yo te ka we ke yo manke etof pou fe moun nan nivo Deza ak mwen kouri….Yo poko genyen espas nan lespri yo pou fe deba nan nivo ke mwen renmen fe deba.

Saa se denye deklaration Dilibon !!

Nou kap pa gen etof pou joure e denigre nan nivo w, men nou gen kouraj pou defand dwa nou !!

Revelasyon

Defamation:
The term defamation refers to a false statement made about someone or some organization that is damaging to their reputation.
For a statement to be defamatory, the statement must be published to a third party, and the person publishing the statement must have known or should have known that the statement was false.

[Dilibon!! depoze vye rapo CIA sa nan dife mon fre!!
Nou konnen moun sa yo tre byen!
Se Washington, DC ke nap viv depi pliske 30 tan mon fre! [/size]
Zanmi dilibon,[/size]
Ki kote w pwal jwen lojik la le mwin konstate ke prezans yon moun lan yon vill ba li dwa konen sa gouvenman ap fe vre .W ta di fre a lan le sekre des dieux .[/size]
AN NOU GADE :
Nou konnen moun sa yo tre byen! ....general statement ...
Se Washington, DC ke nap viv depi pliske 30 tan mon fre! ...explanation of premise ...
Kidonk :
[Dilibon!! depoze vye rapo CIA sa nan dife mon fre!!
Conclusion ...

Eske paramett yo an akor ak konklizyon sa a ?

Sèl bagay mwen ka di, 100 vèsè du dechoukaj lan se pa Helms ni Noriega ki te ekri l epi mete sou non Aristide. Mwen kopye kèk nan vèsè yo. Epwi n a di ki sa nou panse.

"Som 58, 8a : Se pou yo disparet tankou dlo lavalas kap koule desann
- Si n pa kontinye teke, y ap remonte kouran an. " (JBA comment)
(They have to disappear like the impetuous torrent water that goes down the
mountain)
- If we don't continue hiting, they could come back up stream)

"Som 58, 4b : Moun kap bay manti gen madichon depi nan vant manman yo
- Yo deja mò red"(JBA comment)
(Those who lie are cursed since the time they were in their mother's womb
- They are already quite dead)

"Jeremi 5, 13: Map fe pawol mwen mete nan bouch ou tounen yon dife: Dife a
pral boule yo net
- Lap boule yo net net net… " (the illustration shows a person burning in a
big flame above JBA comment)
(I shall have the words I have put in your mouth turn to fire. Fire that will
completely consume them .
-It will consume them completely, completely, completely.)

"Jeremi9, 7 Mwen pral pase yo nan dife, pou m netwaye yo
- Yo k cheche sa " (JBA comment)
( I shall pass them through fire in order to clean them up
- They looked for it)

"Som 58, 40 Malveyan yo peveti depi nan vant maman yo
- Yo toupatou . " (JBA comment, illustrated with a pregnant woman)
(Evil doers are already perverted since they were in their mother's womb
- One can find them everywhere)

"Som 58, 10b Bondye ap fà kole lap rache yo pandan yo tou vivan
- Malouk! Men…" (JBA comment)
(God is irritated at them he slices them to pieces while they are alive.
- Hard! But….)

"Jeremi 22, 19 Y ap antere l tankou chen, yap trennen kadav li, yap voye l
jete byen lwen…
- Ak rezon " (JBA comment)
( They should be buried like dogs, their cadavers are just desecrated and
thrown away, very far away...
- And that's right)

Genyen 100 vèsè konsa. Wi se nan Bib lan ke li pran yo. Men sa yo se bagay ki pase lontan, ansyen testament. E lè sa a misye pot ko menm monte sou pouvwa a, kade kijan de kòmantè ke li te fè. Kisa yon psikològ nan tan modèn sa at ap konkli si li al tonbe sou yon ti kanè pèsonèl ak nòt sa yo konsa de yon swadizan prezidan yon peyi ?

Dilibon= Ekzanp nimewo 1 - Aristide te selman genyen 5 kan le manman msie te obseve li, msei reyaji, se pa youn neg ki renmen depi li piti pou li kontrarye. Li pati, pesonn pat konn kote li te pase. Nomalman genyen moun ki di se Met Dlo ki te pati ak li pendan 1 an 1 jou. Mwen pa ka konfime syantifikman zafe Met Dlo te pwan pati ak li'a. Men li te tounen apre anpil tan ke li te pati kite kay li, se le sa yo te mennen bay Pe Romulus (jodya Monsegne Romulus ke ou ka konsilte sou sa) pou pase rob sou tet msie. Pe Romulus telman te renmen ti nonm nan ke li sense "adopte" li tankou pwop pitit li. Pe Romulus te pran msie anba pwoteksyon li jis li rive pe li menm tou.

Dapre deskripsyon ke ou banou la, sanble ke Aristid le li te piti te soufri sa yo rele, bo isit nan USA, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD). Charakteristik yo tre proch li montre kel paka cooperer, li defyant, li ostil avek otorite gran moun ak superier li yo le yo intefer nan sa lap fe.

Dilibon map mete sintom yo an angle kem google si ou vle wa tradwi yo an kreyol paske mwen pa trwo fo nan lang lan.

Symptoms of ODD may include:

Frequent temper tantrums
Excessive arguing with adults
Often questioning rules
Active defiance and refusal to comply with adult requests and rules
Deliberate attempts to annoy or upset people
Blaming others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
Often being touchy or easily annoyed by others
Frequent anger and resentment
Mean and hateful talking when upset
Spiteful attitude and revenge seeking

Hourray! Hourray! Kisses to you my dear!

Vous me rendez jaloux mes amis.

Point besoin d'etre jaloux! Le coeur ami de Kami est comme un large pizza avec beaucoup de "slices" ayant une valuer depassant le platimum. On n'a qu'a apprecier sa juste valeur et tu seras servi! Il faut se presser car j'aime toutes parties du grand pizza...lol!

Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Marc,

Sispann fe soupi monsher!


Mwen renmen tout fi natirelman, men le ou kontre youn moun ki jis rive ke se youn fanm ki ka kite tout bote entelijans pase vityelman kom twal de fon tout bel fle ki nan mond nan mond nan, sa merite selebre.

Kami se youn moun ki pale dwat, li pa genyen zo nan lang li, li direk, li koube devan verite, se pa moun kap defann youn ti entere pesonel.

Apre tout kalite sa yo, li genyen fos pou defann lide li, li genyen kouraj pou defann peyi li. Peyi Dayiti pa genyen ase fimye pou pwodwi anpil moun konsa. Jeneralman, fanm aysienn deklare ke yo pa mele nan anyen, se mennen ti vi yo, ou byen gwo vi an deyo de sak gade Ayiti.

Yo telman devlope youn perez ke li pa fasil pouw jwenn fanm ayisenn ki deside pran epe yo, pwan zam pawol mete sou do yo pou vinn fe vwa yo pase nan defasn dwa yo.

Le ou jwenn youn grenn perle sou youn plaj plen sab, sa merite selebre plis toujou! Li merite afeksyon mwen ak admirasyon pou chwa sa ke li fe, rantre nan youn chanm plen ak zegwi kote chans sikse yo pat kle depi davans... Li pa genyen anyen pou li anvye pesonn sou pwen entelijans ak savwa!

je sens que je suis en train de m'amouracher de ce forum ou les sons cristallins de l'amitie deliee de toute contrainte et suspicion invitent a la convivialite . NOUS SOMMES SUR LA BONNE PISTE .
Dili ,

W pale byen.Sepoutetsa mwin te ofri w kareaman kom volonter mousquetaire . Nou passe lan sall razwa sa a deja . Le nou di nou rinmin peyi a nou rinmin tout pitit li yo .Nou pa lan afe fanm ak gasson .
Esi yon neg pakon sa fle ye li konpwan poul rache li ak britalite le li we li paske li pa kon sa pou li fe avek li nap mache sou li nap montre li sa yon fler reprezante dans le raffinement de nos moeurs ,de notre developpement humain et de notre culture .

Dili,
An pale an zanmi ki pa lan binyen kache lonbritt .Apa w soti pou pwan tout teryn an pou ou ? Jan sa ye la a w pa kite plass non pou yon lot moun kanpe .lol.

[b]M'we Marc ak patine... Sakap pase la a ?...[/b]

Min pwoblem mwen ak Aristide:

Excerpt from Le Monde Diplomatique
FROM PROPHET OF THE SLUMS TO CONTROLLING RULER
Haiti: Titide’s downfall
by Maurice Lemoine

"Aristide’s experiences during his three-year exile in the US loom over this. He presumably arrived in a state of frustration and despair. But he returned transformed, Americanised: "He left as Aristide and came back as Harry Steed," says Anna Jean Charles of the Batay Ouvriyé union (see box below). In Washington the pitit soyèt (child of the people) aligned with the Democratic party and the Congressional Black Caucus (a grouping of black members of the House of Representatives) and discovered the US establishment, big business and capitalism. Treated as a serving president in charge of Haiti’s frozen assets, he grew greedy. With the help of his new Democrat friends, he had an embargo imposed on Haiti, with devastating effects for his poorest compatriots. The new friends brought Aristide back to power and were richly rewarded in the ensuing round of privatisations, particularly in telecommunications."

http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/2004/09/LEMOINE/11435
http://mondediplo.com/2004/09/09haiti